>Dr Doom crying over 9/11 Can you name a moment in comics

Did it at least cause him to declare war on Afghanistan or something cool?

>>90885029
Nah. Doom had better things to do, like trying to convince the public that RICHARDS was working with Bin Laden.

>>90885008
Spider-Man selling his marriage to the devil to save his 190 year old aunt.

the day I stopped reading marvel comics
>>90885304
also the day I stopped reading marvel comics

>>90885008
>"Bees my God"
>Batman Death in the family finale
>Tony Stark willingly working with the government to restrain super heroes
>Captain America willing going rouge over
>both of them fighting over it
>Spider-man selling his marriage to the devil
>Wanda's power spike during/post Avengers dissembled
>Everything Ultimatum
By comparison, doom's tears seem in character

>>90885008
We have had a lot worse because Marvel's stupidity with crying Doom was a knee jerk reaction to a event Americans haven't seen in centuries: outside enemy attack on civilian soil. It's excusable. Peter tossing his marriage to get ten more years out of his near dead Aunt? Not so much.

>>90885008
Spider-Man selling his marriage to Mephisto.

>>90885008
America #1

>>90885008
Juggernaut showing up when he's knocked the towers over himself in the past

>>90885008
"Johny, you are gay"

>>90885008
Spider-Man vs Firelord.

>>90885008
Part of me wants to say that it's a little excusable because it's the first big attack on America soil in years.

But even then, I'd call this page hypocritical. As bad and shocking as 9/11 was, the US government is killing people every day abroad. How many 9/11's do they get through a year?

>>90885008
>Cyclops is literally Hitler

>>90885606
Thiiiiiiis.
God damn.

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People always rag on the Doom portion of this, but Juggernaut is also there in the wreckage and he actually did knock down the Twin Towers.

>>90885962
>tfw they were back up within 3 years, which is less than a year Marvel Time, just to be menaced again in Spider-Man Unlimited by the terribly named "TERROR INCORPORATED".

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>>90885008
It's not canon, bruh. If it ever was intended to be, it sure isn't anymore due to MU's sliding time.

If it means that much to you, just pretend they're fuzzier alternate versions of the supervillains who'd surely not give a fuck, maybe even cheer, at 9/11.

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>>90885453
>>90885840
As knee jerk as it was, they literally have the perfect character to use as a response to the attacks (And did). They didn't need to have any villain crying over the Towers. I don't know how many stories they needed about 9/11 for it to stop being kneejerk and it start being capitalizing on tragedy.

>>90885962
>Juggernaut is a mutant of peace

>>90885304
>>90885316
>>90885367
While the thing with Pete is incredibly dumb, it's in character since he's a sociopathic manchild trying desperately to be a good guy. Sometimes his inherent villainy comes out.

>>90885008
Infinity

>>90885008
Doom's crying because he didnt think to have someone do it himself.

>>90885008
The ending of IvX.

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>>90885008
What about this page?. It did cause quite the mocking when it was posted

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>>90888346
I get the sentiment, but it just comes off as retarded. Slades a military man and has loose ethics at best.

>>90885673
>Johny
/tv/ pls

>>90885008
[UNSOLICITED OPINIONS ON ISRAEL?!?]

>>90888346
Jesus I'm mostly indifferent to that issue, leaning towards gun control because I'm a pussy Eurofag, but this is just fucking dumb.

>>90885840
>As bad and shocking as 9/11 was, the US government is killing people every day abroad. How many 9/11's do they get through a year?

This happened after 9/11. The deep state apparatus just didn't exist then.

>>90888456
>4 of the most iconic Marvel villains acting completely out of character and pretending they're not murderers
vs
>some schmo villain in a bargain-bin Image reclaim project being associated with antisionism

Yeah, nah, 1st one is a lot stupider.

>>90888346
Priest did a lot better in the issue about chicago.

>>90888522
Fisk is a crime boss, but he's not a terrorist. Him being terrified of a terror attack and wanting to appear for good PR makes sense.

Juggernaut, though...

>>90889009
>Fisk is a crime boss, but he's not a terrorist.
So he murders innocents for profit rather than some retarded muh Allah ideological reason?

The PR point I can take, although Fisk is pretty well known as a criminal in comics, unlike the Netflix show where he tries to put on a good guy front.

>>90885840
>>90885008
It's annoying, because there actually are a number of villains who would be emotionally broken by seeing New York destroyed. Any of Spider-Man's villains (Kingpin there is a great choice) and I bet Green Goblin & Venom would've been really choked up by it if you needed another big name. Hammerhead would've hated it, though he's not exactly a huge draw. Same with Jigsaw and The Hood.

>>90885008
When Squirrel Girl lectured Galactus on the proper use of gender pronouns before punching his shit in.

>>90888346
Love is Love was retarded in general. Comic Books are okay (though I feel that way less and less these days), but you just have to roll your eyes and ignore it when writers take up a pet cause.

>>90889653
>When Squirrel Girl

Yes. You can complete that thought with literally anything, and yes.

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>>90889656
Love is Love was good for this, DiDio story and Morrison weirdness

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>>90885367
>Cap willingly going rogue
Nah that was in character. Especially since it started with SHIELD trying to preemptively take him out. He's not an American lackey, he's an American Idealist.

>>90889704
He wasn't asked to answer to either SHIELD or the US governement though.
And really when you consider all the innocent people he puts in danger when trying to save Bucky, it just makes Stark look more right.

>>90888346
In my headcanon, Slade is just disgusted by the journalists using wrong terms and anti-gun propaganda, so he decides to stick to martial arts just to show them all.

Doom was clearly just butthurt that some random Muslims hit Reed's backyard successfully while he couldn't

>>90889919
>conversation is about comics
>brings up the movie
w e w

>>90892401
He's actually sad because he set the whole thing up to run into the Baxter Building, but instead they hit the WTC.

>>90888518
>The deep state apparatus just didn't exist then.
Yes it did. The US had been caught committing false flags or flat out lying in order to justify aggressive foreign policy in the Middle East and South America for two decade prior to 9/11. The WTC was just the icing on the cake. It's one of the main reasons "Peace in the Middle East" got going in the 90s.

>>90885008
Seems pretty in character to me desu.

>>90885367
>>90888306
Haven't read OMD personally but I was under the impression that Peter wasn't going to go through with it until MJ convinced him to.
Whispering was involved IIRC.

>>90885008
Yes, but you're just going to start spamming it all week instead so I'd rather not.