Is he some sort of DC analog? He's a super hero, Japan doesn't

>>90869379
japan has fucktons of superheroes. but theyre based directly on our superhero genres, with their own idiosyncracies. jsut like anime

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He speaks for the trees.

So apparently thanks to a miscommunication between Toriyama and Toei, the REAL heavy hitter of the team was revealed way too early.

So Lorax was supposed to give the impression that he's the hot shit guy in the intro. He's supposed to be front and center because that's what you're SUPPOSED to think. But now we know that's not the case since Day 1 of the new arc.

>>90869379
>He's a super hero, Japan doesn't have those.

Motherfucker, what do you think Kamen Rider is? Or hell, THE POWER RANGERS!

>He's a super hero, Japan doesn't have those.
Dude what? He's doing the Kamen Rider poses and everything.

>>90869617
>>90869676
The terms you're looking for is tokusatsu and Sentai.

>>90869617
Kamen Rider, Cyborg 009, Inazuman, Kikaider, Ultraman, Sunred even there's a manga about a superhero school.

>>90871370
Also known as Japanese superheroes.

>>90869379
dude literally uses one of Kamen Rider Ichigou's moves

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>>90869379
>He's a super hero, Japan doesn't have those.

We gave them a starter pack back in the '60s.

>their second most powerful fighter is comparable to maximum power kaioken god goku
>they are still one of the weak universes

just imagine what the strongest universe is like!

>>90875196
the mortal level isn't just fighting strength, m9

>>90869379
>He's a super hero, Japan doesn't have those.
Dude, Japan has been doing capeshit better than the west for years now. Even puting aside toku and sentai, there is Tiger and Bunny, OPM, Hero Academia, Samurai Flamenco and Hentai Powermom.

>>90875392
I forgot about Tiger and Bunny, that show was fucking great.

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>>90869379
Pretty sure they're based on Ultraman, a Japanese super hero, especially considering that the main one looks like a generic alien.

Special team of aliens traveling around the universe to protect it. Note the upside down triangle pattern from the shoulders to the chest too.

Also, not pictured, but UltraKing has a big mustache and beard. They don't resemble Toppo's visually, but might have been the inspiration if they're really Ultraman based.

>>90875196
NINGEN LEVEL ISN'T POWER LEVEL

Beerus says that Goku being a dangerous idiot is why their mortal ranking is so low and Goku responds with "that's ok, Gohan is raising the level for me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7bnr2_njfQ

Sunred is pretty good for a comedy anime.

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>>90869379
>Is he some sort of DC analog? He's a super hero, Japan doesn't have those.

>>90869379
The only thing that keeps things like magical girls, toku and sentai from being superheroes, is that they're usually focused on a single evil organization and we don't get to see them going after regular crime or unrelated bad guys.

But then you have Winspector who went after criminals primarily so they're superheroes through and through. The guys in Kekkai Sensen also make a habit of stoping regular crime in addition to fighting the main bad organization, the only thing that separates them from regular supers is not wearing hero uniforms.

>>90875582
That does seem pretty interesting.

He's Alien Dr. Wiley.

>>90869379
So it's true, DB fags don't really watch anything but their show.

>>90869379
He acted more like a shitty toku character if anything. All early toku characters had black and white mentality and would kill enemies of justice without mercy and do really gay poses. come weeb get your shit together and keep this shit on /a/ while you're at it.

>>90875463
kek my sides

>>90875392
>Hentai powerman
>Good

>>90869379

Japan has plenty, Like Great Saiyaman Toppo is basically a parody of both Japanese SENTAI shows and Western Superheros. expect even more over the top...

I must note I love that Gohan alone found all his poses and speeches cool.

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>See's the tournament line-up for Universe 7

>Goku
>Vegeta
>Majin Buu
>Android 18
>Android 17
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Gohan

Pretty reasonable

>Master Roshi
>Tien

Guess even the MC needs Cannon fodder I guess.

>>90877025
Roshi is the counter for female Broly.

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>>90877025
>Implying Tien is fodder
>Implying Krillin isn't

Tien stopped a fucking blast from Buutenks while Krillin turned into the second Yamcha. He even kept training well after that, while Krillin let himself stagnate and regress up until recently. If you were baiting, I admit you got me.

>>90877025
Everyone you listed except the first 3 are cannon fodder for the Spopoviches of the Multiverse.

>>90877711
Krillin got a power boss in that forest.

>>90877025
Tien can help against powerful super villains if only briefly, like what he did against Cell and Buu. I'm sure he'll have at least one good moment during the battle royal.

>>90877986
Power boost no power boss.

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>>90877986
>>90878015
What part of "until recently" did you not understand?

>>90877986
He wasted away so much that a bullet made him bleed, this is below even early Dragon Ball levels of power before Goku learned the Kamehameha or ki control. Krillin getting passed his PTSD in the forest was a nice moment but I still have no faith that he's built himself up enough to do anything useful.

>>90877803
I'm not up to date on all the post-Z bullshit but isn't Majin Buu nowhere near as strong as Kid Buu and thus weaker than Gohan?

>>90878094
Gohan stopped training and turned into a faggot, he even lost his mystic mode.

>>90878094
Mr Buu is weaker, yes, but he's still above Dabura, who was Cell-tier. Gohan was still actually the strongest character up until BoG, but regressed into being weak enough that he'd probably get ragdolled by current Buu. Going by the opening, however, this seems slated to change as he gains back the power he lost with some good ol' Piccolo training.

>>90878233
Buu still has that ability to turn people into candy, right?

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>>90875768

>>90878291
Yeah, but he doesn't use it because it's considered evil.

>>90869379
But they do.

>>90869379
He is based on Super Sentai, just like the Ginyu Force

>>90877025

>This retard would rather take Goten and Trunks

They all need to follow the rules. Those kids would fuse and fuck it all up. Tien is a solid choice

>>90878094

The tournament isn't one on one and it isn't to the death either. Because of the rules Buu is the most valuable fighter they have after Goku and Vegeta

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>>90879414
>Implying I thought Goten/Trunks would be even close to useful

>>90879613

Then theres nobody else

>>90879664
There's Yamcha and Chaotzu.

Well, fuck.

I mean... Yajirobe might not be so bad if he actually cooperated, at least.

>>90880100
No weapons allowed. Yajirobe is a samurai.

>>90879664
Get King Yemma to give Pikkon a day outside the afterlife like what happened with Goku. The universe will be deleted if they lose the tournament so it's time to bend a couple rules.

>>90875414
hows the dub?

>>90880193
Anon...Pikkon is not canon
The earth is were is at

>>90880100
>There's Yamcha and Chaotzu.

So two guys who never won a fight? Great picks anon

>>90880100
>Yajirobe might not be so bad

Yajirobe would flat out refuse to go

So after this birthing episode, they're gonna have an episode in the Time Chamber since its only 40 hrs til the tourney and they all need to train and power up

Why didn't he go get Future Trunks? He's from Universe 7, just a different time line.

Or Frieza or any other villain? If they get erased Hell is gone too and it's a great way to re introduce them

>>90880414
oh no what if the baby grows up in the time chamber

>>90875768
>UNITE PUNCH

>>90875768
The fun part about dressing up like brightly colored idiots is that if there's five of you you're still going to fucking stomp anyone by themselves no matter how you look and they can't do anything about it

>>90880487
huh thats a neat idea

i wonder if something like that may actually happen in the future, especially if the entire family would go into it and raise the kid. only downside if the room has basically nothing in it except the bed and fridge

>>90880414

There's a limit on how many times you can use the chamber If I recall correctly

>>90880453
>Or Frieza or any other villain?

Because if you win, then what? Freiza got to Golden form by training for 4 months. He's to dangerous to be allowed to live

>Goku will kill the furries

Ends justify the means.

>>90869379
I'm still curious as to what the fuck is even going on.

Is Goku playing some kind of a long game or is he really just kind of bored and playing with the lives of trillions cause he DGAF?

>>90882715
It almost seems like they are setting him up for a MASSIVE reality check and a crushing defeat.

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>Goku gets several God transformations.
>Just so happens that most/all opponents afterwards can challenge or even match or exceed it.
>nothing has changed, everything would be exactly the same if they didn't have any transformations at all.
Why is this so poor?

>>90877025
at least Krillin didn't tell 18 to have dinner ready for when he's done this time

>>90882947

That's what happens when you let power creep ruin your fight scenes. When was the last time two fighters had a discernible difference between the way they fought?

>>90883029
Better question, when was the last time a Dragonball villain was beaten with something BESIDES a massive energy blast?
Vegeta?

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>>90871370
If i put a superhero in france, "le heró" becames a different thing? Styles and Suit design aside, they all came from the same idea

>>90871370
Do you even know what tokusatsu means? It's just shows that have an extensive use of special effects.
Also the block that airs Kamen Rider and Super Sentai is literally called "super hero time"

>>90883037

Captain Ginyu is the last that comes to mind. One of the last characters I can think of with an interesting power. Well, Cell was kind of interesting before he became another power up junkie.

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>>90877025
Roshi will fuck up an entire row of opponents without breaking a sweat.

Don't fucking mess with the Turtle Genial.

>>90878094
Majin Buu can regenerate, heal allies, and turn enemies into candy and eat them. As long as the enemy doesn't do a world-vapourizing giant beam, Buu is impossible to defeat.

>>90883097
and yet he'll probably ring out after some bullshit

>>90877711
Add to this that krillin is human while tien is technically not entirely

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>>90869379
>Tiger & Bunny
>My Hero Academia
>Sentai
>Kamen Rider

>>90883029

Literally the last set of arc villains?

Goku Black and Zamasu were all about the energy arm blades that very few other fighters used, and no one used it to the extent they did.

>>90883029
The yellow furry did poison shenanigans.

>>90883079

>implying he won't Fuck them instead.

yes in front of everyone.

>>90878094

No, people highly underestimate current Gohan, he's been training since the end of the return of Freeza and is pretty much the most powerful person in Universe 7 who can't currently access God Ki.

Though Buu has uber hax abilities no one else has so he might actually be the most powerful fighter in a format like the Tournament of power.

>>90878036

Krillin learned how to basically do the same thing Goku does to turn SSJB, total Ki control. He can fight without leaking almost any Ki now if he doesn't want to, and so far in Super that's been a really big deal with how important the idea of Ki Control has been. So yeah he's stronger than he ever was before, being able to focus ALL his ki in every attack without losing too much stamina.

>>90883037

Well Zamasu got cut in half.

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>>90883742
No, hey turned into a universe(somehow) and then got nuked by Zen'oh.

>>90884241
>that's right, pull my hair!
>harder daddy!

goddamnit now I have a boner.

>>90884285
>(somehow)

Yeah, by Trunks cutting him in half.

>>90884344
You're getting a boner to Ginyu.

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>>90884241
>Vegetto annihilating Xen Buu.
That Majin Buu was completely confident he could take Vegetto and I believe him.

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>>90884367
Why does getting cut in half turn him into a universe?

>>90884408
His physical body is destroyed but his immortal soul remains intact.

It's kinda like how Goku had infinite stamina while he was dead.

>>90884241
wait, did Vegeto and Chichi get divorced? sho

>>90884377
for all we know Ginyu's original body and identity was a little blonde girl named Virginia

>>90884408
he abandoned his body and became a being of pure energy

>>90883097
he can actually turn anything into anything else, he just prefers candy because he's a glutton

>>90884489
Goku died, remember?

Till death do you part and all that.

Can Cell be good if Goku resurrects him?

>>90884586
Maybe?

He does have more good guy DNA than bad guy DNA.

He'd need serious therapy though. Blowing himself up did a number on his sanity.

>>90882715
was back when Goku first trained under Roshi, Roshi entred the tenkaichi in disguise to ensure that if Goku (or Krillin) made it to the finals there would be someone there to beat the shit out of him
because he knew that it would fuck up his development if Goku ever believed he was the strongest warrior out there

and all through Dragon Ball Goku was always excited and sometimes even relieved that no matter how strong he got, he always managed to find people strong enough to get him on the ropes

now he's fought gods and demons and angels, he's like a heroi addict that's made the switch from using a spoon and lighter to straight injecting the stuff.

hell, a part of him is probably excited specifically because the losers get erased. he's died twice, and knows he's getting the VIP treatment in the afterlife. Dying has nothing for him to fear.
Getting erased? that actually feels like he's in real danger for the first time since they removed the one rez restriction on Shenron

>>90881071
it only has enough food to last two people for one year, then they have to restock the fridge which takes a while.
but they could easily work out a rotation that gives everyone a solid six months of training each

>>90884669
People forgot there's more to being a Saiyan than shiny transformations.

The Saiyans ARE a warrior race, and Goku's a Saiyan through and through, head injury or no.

>>90879414
fusing wasn't actually on the ban list when Pope Man was explaining the rules. Potaras likely count as 'weapons', but the dance is just a technique

>>90884732
Should've brought Goten and Trunks.

Missed oppurtunity to give Gotenks a chance to shine after jobbing to Buu, Beerus, Frieza and Copy Vegeta.

>>90884774
I get the feeling something is planned with Gotenks in the next arc.

>>90884809
Seriously, people give Gohan shit for jobbing, but Gotenks jobs even harder than him.

>>90882715
Grand Priest is clearly going to end up being the bad guy

>>90884377
>You're getting a boner to Ginyu.

My penis does not care.

>>90884774
>>90884809
>>90884822
Gotenks is retarded though. He'd lose any and all fights because he is too busy showing off, and then the fusion wears off when he gets the upper hand.

>>90869379
>hero
>goes on nationalistic rant about his people, his planet etc.

yeah fuck off

>>90876044
>they're usually focused on a single evil organization and we don't get to see them going after regular crime or unrelated bad guys.
This is what differentiates them. They usually go after monsters or specific bad guys but rarely do they go around actually saving people from say, a mugger, except specifically in superhero shows (which are usually parodies).

>>90884489
>wait, did Vegeto and Chichi get divorced? sho

Chichi told Vegitto and Bulma that she isn't about to steal Bulmas husband from him, and Goku was dead for 7 years already anyway.
She then asked him to at least be a father to Goten, and to visit them often.
Vegitto is living in both houses simultaneously, using Instant Transmission to teleport constantly.

>>90877025
Why is there a female Broly but no male Broly?

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>>90884473
Why does having his body destroyed turn his immortal soul into the universe?

>>90884519
Why does becoming pure energy turn him into the universe?

>>90885181
Because he was half immortal and had to go somewhere, so REEEEd so hard that he just kind of dispersed through the universe blowing shit up

>>90875392
>OPM
>good
It's average at best

>>90885201
Still makes no sense even by Dragonball standards. The writing in Super is just nonsense.

>>90884953
>He'd lose any and all fights because he is too busy showing off
there's enough precedence for DB Super Gotenks to be more serious than DBZ Gotenks.
Kid Trunks spent most of the Zamasu arc eating humble pie in the shadow of Future Trunks, and recent episodes with Goten have shown that he's become rather mature for his age and has a growing disdain for things he thinks are childish (like Great Saiyaman)

>>90885181
he had a universe's worth of energy

>>90885431
The dude's still immortal, what was he supposed to do after getting atomized by a spirit bomb?

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>>90885675
Not get atomized at all?

>>90885644
Retarded and nonsensical.

it was stupid and happened for no reason, accept it. They just didn't know what they were going to do with this villain they made immortal.(but it turned out he wasn't immortal at all, not even a little). You'd be surprised how little involvement Akira Toriyama has in Super, and how different his comic version is from the animation, which has separate writers who only receive nominal instructions from Toriyama. What people need to realize is that Super is just GT all over again, it's the brand name being marched out on command by some greedy suits who want money from it. In 10 years we will be dismissing Super as non-canon just like GT.

>>90885431
"I kind of wrote myself into the corner with the whole immortality thing, regretted it immediately." I think it's hilarious that they tried to make it work and if god complex god wasn't such a boring character I might have enjoyed that super goofy arc.

>>90884408
>implying bullets aren't just stronger now
DON'T UNDERESTIMATE NINGEN!!

>>90885832
>turned out he wasn't immortal at all, not even a little
He clearly was though, which is why he didn't die

>>90885832
>>90886028
Evil Containment Wave should have worked and drove Goku Black to insanity from losing his one and only friend, giving him a massive power boost.

>people pretending db hasn't always been retarded

That's part of the fun.

>>90884241
i read that webcomic and bra's a bitch

>>90869611
sourc: my ass

>>90885832
>accept it
nah
>but it turned out he wasn't immortal at all, not even a little
fusing with a mortal gave him regen cancer and even then he survived the destruction of his body and had to be erased by a reality warper

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>If he Goku lose, he will the responsible of the death of his own universe and if he wins he will responsible of the death of billions of innocents

Why everyone is okay with this, even Gohan! please leave Vegeta be the voice of the reason.

>>90887876
>Why everyone is okay with this
Zen-O said he was planning on erasing these universes anyway. the tournament ensures at least one universe on the chopping block will survive

>>90885832
It's not "his comic" you autistic cunt. Toyotaro, the real responsible for the comic version, receives the same rough draft that Toei's writes have. Both of them just have a draft like "it needs to go from point A to point B" but how to connect the dots are up to them, and Toyotaro is not attached to the anime storyline. Stop saiyng bullshit on the internet and get your facts straight.

>>90869611

Explain yourself and prove that you aren't just pulling shit out of your ass.

>>90883595
Amazed they are still doing this. This was the big super hard training secret to power way back in the Piccolo saga of Dragonball, and again in the Cell Saga.

>>90887923
Is obvious Goku is gonna wish to get back those universes because they have strong warriors and he wants to fight them again in the future.

>>90885832
>In 10 years we will be dismissing Super as non-canon just like GT.

In 10 years we will probably have some newer even worse series like Dragonball Ultra or something to complain about.

>>90879414
>>90884732
Fusion could backfire really bad. If the time runs out, the fused characters would count as one warrior and potentially make the universe in question lose for having less warriors on the battlefield than others.

>>90869501
this. japs have been copying everyone for centuries

https://youtu.be/Mh5LY4Mz15o

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>>90877711
>mfw Krillin and Tien go Super Human during the tournament but no one can tell because they're both bald

>>90869379
The whole power ranger shit came from Japan

>>90887659
>>90888220
The alien that we saw in the intro. He was shown to be the guy in the cloak. They swapped him with Toppo when the arc aired. Jiren is the alien we saw in the intro.

>>90888931
>Jiren is the alien we saw in the intro
No shit, are you the detective Conan or something?

>>90888931
No shit Sherlock. But there is no evidence whatsoever that they did a swapp with them.

>>90889043
I don't have the image, but the previews showed him under the cloak, yet the final draft showed Toppo instead. That's what the other anon was referring to.

>>90876702
You would think this weeaboo would at least know his shit before posting here. though we all know why he vaguely tried to link this with /co/ content. he just wanted to discuss DBZ on /co/.

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>>90889065
Found it.

>>90876044
>>90885037
that's because they're not super heroes.

They're seigi no mikata, ally of justice. It's a different ideology

>>90876702
Leaving the bait asides what this guy says is true in a way, the whole ally of justice thing is about a personal justice, that's why they kill enemies if they want to and nobody says shit.

>>90877711
>Tien stopped a fucking blast from Buutenks

I don't even remember who the blast was meant to kill, Dende maybe? If so, it wasn't a strong attack. And that was the sum total of Tiens achievements.

Meanwhile, Krillin fucked a robot with super saiyan strength so hard that she got pregnant.

It is very clear which one of them is stronger.