If mutants existed in real life, how would you want the government

>>90694898
Absolutely would need to be registered and monitored by the government. When you are able to have artillery-grade weaponry inside your eyes you need to be licensed and kept watch over.

>>90694898
>>90694971
imagine a muslim mutant in europe

>>90694898
build a wall and make Magneto pay for it

I would hope they build a lot of sentinels.

>>90694898

Look technically i can be tracked by the government because i'm in the Canadian health system because of mental health issues...I'm "registered" i guess... so yeah, if some 30 year old idiot with depression and anxiety has a file you damn well better register the giant blue guy who can do a triple backflip rip out your skull and then build an atom bomb in his basement....

or hey, that dude who basically can't be put down with firearms who has unbreakable super sharp knives coming out his hands....

Or that Cajun fuckwit who can just set cars to explode by touching them....

and thats not even getting into the psychic mindfuckery powers.

>>90697040
>Canadian with mental health issues
What's your opinion on magical horse shows?

Muties gotta understand that regulation isn't about taking away their freedoms, it's about protecting them and others. A registered mutie can get into government programs to help them handle their powers, health issues that may come about as a result of it, can get benefits in terms of their private insurance, not to mention the veritable smorgasbord of specialised roles in the private and public sector that a registered, recognised mutant can be qualified for.

It's just better for everyone involved if they're registered and monitored with regular checkups and psych evals.

>>90694971
this

especially physics that can turn people gay look at Iceman

>>90694898
gov't can't even decide what to do with people entering the country without permission, figuring out what to do with muties would just be another thing for both sides to fight over

>>90695962
Sentinels = Drones

>>90697236

Wouldn't really matter anyways cuz you'd have the Magneto's of mutant kind out there and in his case if he gets pissed he can just erase the Earths EM shield... which is no bueno.

>>90698600
Those are the ones you kill using your own time-travelling mutant government agents.

Ideally, people who need the help controlling their powers would get it. But that wouldn't happen. They'd level a city block. Accidentally kill schoolkids. They'd get taken in by the government, tested and used for military and medical R&D.

Some new megamax prisons would be propped up by private entities. Gangs and third world warlords would snag up as many kids as they can. Cops becomes the #1 show on TV. Arms race between nations. Perhaps an all new country is set up in the pacific ocean or from a coup led by a charismatic, powerful mutant.

>>90698016

Well. We need more powerful drones that can fight all the various powers mutants have.

I don't want old people driving cars, I don't want navy seals or MMA fighters getting into bar fights, I don't want some mutie scum blowing up a 7-11 cause they're out of cherry slushie. Make them register.

>>90698985

Yeah this is basically what would happen.

>>90694898
mutants would quickly be militarized in a majority of countries and then they would probably be used for propaganda purposes. The distribution of mutants geographically would have the potential to increase/decrease a country's borders based on how powerful their mutants are or the shear number of them 1 person has over the other.

>>90699149
Those things would happen whether registration was enforced or not. In the Marvel Universe, they DID happen while registration was enforced.

The Mutant Registration Act did nothing to prevent Apocalypse from Invading New York. Did nothing about the Adversary taking over Dallas. It was about as useful as tits on a pig when the Goblin Queen attacked. And it never stopped a single Sentinel from turning on Humanity, time and time again. And not once, in that entire time was the MRA used to better life for being coerced to register.

It's only good for oppressing citizens for being born different and abiding by the law.

>>90694898
Idk but I imagine /pol/'s reaction to muties would be pretty funny.

>>90694971
Muslims and latins

>>90694898
The obvious mutants could be culled/vivisected. The subtle shapeshifter/telepath ones would take over Gov't & Corporate institutions.

One thing these threads never factor is the fact that the X-men and other superheroes exist in fiction in real life.

I think that would heavily influence how the public, and maybe even the government would react to real life mutants.

Would Entertainment Companies fight over rights to have them star in movies and tv shows? Would people fight each other to become part or their supporting cast? Would people leave them alone to avoid a "Carrie" situation?

Actually, that would make for an interesting comic...

>>90694898
Is it early mutants who are the kids of people working or exposed to too high levels of radiation, or later mutants who posses the x-gene?

the dangerous mutants would never register anyways, ensuring the only people actually affected are the ones who wouldn't/couldn't do anything wrong and inciting massive anti-government sentiment in both mutants and their sympathizers
so no mutants shouldn't be registered lol

Ban the conscious use of mutant powers on the streets.

Set up an academy where aspiring heroes can train to combat evil mutants.

>Be a mutie
>Your mutant power is just immortality.
>You can live for several millennium and beyond.
>Keikaku Intensifies.

This type of discussion always boils down to a political viewpoint, a discussion between "less state vs. more state". But being honest, registration of powerful individuals and development of counter measures for them is basically what every government in the world would do.

Hell, most countries make registries of AIDS patients and tracks their general sexual activity so they can control potential AIDS spread.

>>90701736

>the ones who wouldn't/couldn't do anything wrong

Very subjective who can or cannot do anything wrong. Also, Gov need to take a proactive stance against possible dangerous mutants, and creating a culture of registration could dissuade the less violent inclined, or prepare for when a powerful one decides it had enough.

>>90700002
Are they natively born with bazookaeyes?

>>90701736
Mandatory testing for the X-gene at birth should be a good start. It has so many potentially beneficial aspects as well for the mutants, like if they have disfiguring or health-threatening (or just plain dangerous) mutations then they can have treatment and training as soon as the new aspects begin to manifest, allowing them to be better adjusted and integrated and everyone to be better off.

>>90694898

As long as the goverment dont make giant fucking robots

Seriously who thought sentinels were good ideas

>>90702218
>Hell, most countries make registries of AIDS patients and tracks their general sexual activity so they can control potential AIDS spread.
Exactly, making a register is not automatically some sinister thing, it's just goddamn common sense. Anyone who thinks a government wouldn't straight up enforce a registry at a minimum is straight up delusional.

>>90702560

This even if they stop the mutant threat what is to stop the government from suppressing the average joe

If those things are great at killing humans think of the issues when their are no muties left

>>90702560
>Seriously who thought sentinels were good ideas

Scared flatlines, clearly. Fear causes very irrational decisions.

Anyone else always hated this mutie and humie bullshit? It always results in either mass mutant genocide or human genocide.

Its honestly so fucking boring to constantly see it played out in X-men stories.

Your scared of mutants in a world where aliens exist and super heroes are everywhere? Give me a break

>>90702317
Clearly you've never talked to /k/. All the gun registries in the world does little to nothing to prevent violent crime or firearms related homicide.

The criminal Mutants would simply refuse to register and carry on raising merry hell. Just like gangbangers would continue to shoot motherfuckers, gun registry or not.

>>90694898
they should be left alone. they aren't a threat.

>>90702865
Genetic tests at birth and close monitoring thereafter. Cerebro-style surveillance as well, if we have mutants with the supergenius to do that, or simply the mutant ability to find specific people.

Sometimes I feel that if the main X-Men books focused more on day to day operations of the school, they would be better.

>>90694898
all these people who are calling for registration just like guns. this is essentially a 2nd amendment thread only the weapons are people

>>90694971
SHALL

I think the best way to handle it is still innocent until proven guilty. For one thing, mutant powers aren't necessarily stable- they can develop over time, so trying to test and register every mutant is highly impractical and ineffective. But if someone commits a crime, they should be tested for mutant powers (even if the crime apparently didn't involve powers) as a matter of course, just like suspects are fingerprinted. Mutants convicted of crimes will be put on watchlists, depending on the severity and nature of the crime. They might also be required to periodically come in for testing and review even after being released.

That's a basic outline of what I think the best system might look like. In practice there would probably be a variety of other developments, like new crime classifications, rehab and training facilities to prevent mutants from accidentally endangering themselves and ohers, etc. Beyond widely available basic safety training, there would probably also be training academies and coaches for those who could afford it, that help mutants fine tune their powers for the purposes of industry and business. The military would definitely be in on the game as well.

Think about gun control, then think how one mutant can be more powerful than a hundred guns. Of course people would WANT to control them. Easier said than done.

Realistically I think if mutants existed they would take over all human governments rapidly. Why? They have shapeshifters and telepaths. They can brainwash humans and impersonate them.

>>90704754
What about powers that manifest dangerously and without control? I definitely think that if an X-gene can be tested for at birth (and it's genetic so there's no reason you can't) then at least you can be ready for it. Regular checkups and the like. Knowing that if your eyes start to burn hot then to get yourself checked out.

>>90704814
If doctors can check from birth I imagine that would become standard medical practice. If there are tests that are cheap and easy enough to use, they could be included as part of public school physicals. Mutant education would definitely become part of the health curriculum in public schools as well.

I guess the main thing that I'm missing in my vision is how to handle people without criminal intent who have powers that they can't handle. If someone is creating dangerous incidents and training/rehab doesn't work, society would need some sort of way to quarantine these people in a way that's still relatively humane.

>>90704804
>Think about gun control
>The Constitution says we have a right to bear arms, so I should have a right to my Bear arms

>>90701867
That assumes that you are both that smart, and that dedicated.

>>90701867
>>90705321
This came off as more dickish than I expected. I'm not saying you're dumb--I probably wouldn't be smart enough to do keikaku.

>>90704804
I think robust systems of government found in first world countries would find ways to resist mutant takeovers. Third world dictators would be mostly mutants though.

One thing to keep in mind is that even if the mutants are in power, they'll still try to control other mutants to protect their own position. There isn't going to be a lot of solidarity or brotherhood among mutants.

>>90698985
No way would any government in the world let a mutant nation form. They'd be too powerful. 1st world countries would probably be very accepting of mutant kind. There would probably be some large scale accident, but all that would do in 1st world nations would cause them to make registration or something. 911 didn't cause the US to ban all Muslims, just beef up sercurity.

The real problem would be if any developing nation got a powerful one. Then you'd have issues.

Literally read G.R.R.Ms wild cards series. It's actual books so it's more /lit/ than /co/ but the latest trilogy is pretty realistic.

>>90694898
>are they currently endangering anyone
if no, dont touch them

>are their powers inherently unstable and could cause harm at any moment
if no, dont touch them

>will their powers be able to circumvent standard security measures of important areas like banks
if no, dont touch them
if yes, then the court, or duly authorized commission, will decide the appropriate response
>if the above is yes, does the individual have a criminal record
then additional surveillance may be necessary, as well

>>90706736
Should mention that Wildcards aren't written just by G.R.R.M. A lot og good/great authors participated. Zelazny's Sleeper is the best boy.

>>90694898

x-men presents these various metaphors about power, it's exercise, and the scope of limiting it.

it's obvious that any group as dangerous as mutants, given their mutations are insanely unpredictable and dangerous, not only need to be controlled, but possibly eliminated because of the danger they present to themselves.

think about any powerful group. not only do they accelerate the danger for weaker groups, they accelerate the dangers inside their own people while trying to develop governance that limits that power.

ultimately, they pose an existential threat to themselves and others and need to be dealt with.

OR

humanity accepts the dangers and benefits mutants are able to contribute while acting decisively together towards getting rid of eliminating those who are the most threatening. they must be registered with the government and constantly surveiled for their own protection.

this is the preferred option because mutants can improve the lives of people and their potential for good isn't taken for granted by people who equally incapable of outlining their potential benefits.

>>90702719
The worst part is that the marvel universe has things that arent mutants that are treated well. How can I tell the difference between a mutant and a magician? A super soldier vs the homosuperior?

You cant tell me there is a world where the Fantastic Four are treated any differently than the XMen. I just can't understand it.

We'd have Mutant Lives Matter protests everywhere.

>>90694898
Hamburger here.

Democrats would protect the shit out of them, like they do with any other races that will destroy their way of life

Republicans would probably support rounding them up

>>90705020
Don't most human have a latent X-gene though? How can you tell if it will activate at puberty or not?

On a somewhat unrelated note, why did Dr. Nemesis tell Cyclops' extinction team that mutantkind was already doomed because there were only less than 200 left, and those numbers couldn't sustain a popuation, when, infact, most mutants are born to ordinary humans?

>>90694898
First they would be weaponized. If they can't be used to kill commies then they would be xterminated.

>>90707522
I might have gotten my comics mixed up, it might be in DC where most people carry the metahuman gene, but never express it because most people aren't involved in extraordinary events which cause it to activate.

>>90707088
Therr are only 4 fantastic r and they were formerly humans, so they can empatize with those they protect; mutants are literally neverhuman replacements for humanity as a whole that can outbreed them

>>90707340
>republicans going against gun rights
>while democrats protect instead of shame the innocent and blame them for all of histories wrongs

I don't know what world you live in but i want to go there too

>>90697236
This. That a private citizen has to be the one seeking out and training young mutants to safely use their powers is ridiculous, there should be an entire Department of Mutant Affairs dealing with that.

>>90707088
>You cant tell me there is a world where the Fantastic Four are treated any differently than the XMen. I just can't understand it.
The first mutant that the world was introduced to was Magneto threatening to blow up cities in the US with nuclear missiles. That along with how secretive the X-men were in the early days and government anti-mutant propaganda pretty much colored how people treated mutants in the world.

Remember there are people that still hate Spider-man beyond JJJ and criminals.

They would have a Magneto and have a country and take over the world in 20 years

Hopefully their Magneto won't have a chip on their shoulder and just run the country instead of putting humans in camps

>>90694971
FROM
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COLD
DEAD
EYES

>>90694971
Only the non-whites should be monitored.

>>90707548
In DC metahuman gene is genetic or triggered by trauma.

Its been implied that all people have the X- gene but it randomly activates in some people at puberty.

>>90694898
Treat it as an epidemic and look for a cure or method to suppress the powers. If it is benign, mandate that they take yearly checkups to make sure it stays benign. If it is dangerous, suppress the powers until they get trained and certified. If they ever lose their certification, they are mandated to take suppressants.

You're a mutant and the Government will pay you handsomely for some experiments.
Go for it?

>>90712592

Alternative

I form a mutant PMC group and dont get dissected alive and or have a million needles put into me

>>90712673

Why hasnt this been done before?

>Does your country need superheroes
>SHIELD to high and mighty to save you?
>Tired of seeing New York and other major cities having their own heroes?

>be mutant
>government pays me $100,000 for each horrible experiment
>never go to college and live the sweet life

>>90712769
>>Does your country need superheroes
Actually yes.
Australia has fucking nothing, barring a few mutants.
Why does almost everything have to be in New York or space?

>>90707103
To some extent, but even SJWs would be deathly afraid of mutants if there was even the slightest collateral damage of a mutant's powers being accidentally unleashed.

>>90712592
If i'm a mutant I wouldn't need government money. There's a ton of jobs that would having special powers would be useful for.

>>90712769

You see this is why I hate marvel and their mutant stories

They always think of the bad shit like racism or mass mutant genocide and never the positives to having mutants.

>>90712867

I don't see how that's a bad thing, if anything the other nations should be grateful they don't have to deal with cape bullshit on a constant basis because of new york.

>>90713667
It's not a bad thing at all, in universe.
I'd just like to see other areas of the world get more focus.

Hell, I'd be pretty all right with having more stuff going on in Wakanda than just BP.

>>90694898
I DON'T
the government would only use them as weapons.

i never understood something what makes them mutants. they have a exrea gene that gives them power nothing more. humans on earth have genes other have like being born redheads or other shit

>>90714845
Read some comics, ESL-anon.

kill them all

they arent human

>>90716796
HUMAN rights are for HUMANS