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>That's my secret, Captain. I'm always angry. It's

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>That's my secret, Captain. I'm always angry.

It's been years and several viewings and literally still do not understand this line which functions as a major plotpoint in the movie.

Can someone explain this to me?
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>>90683133
He hates everything so he's always ready to turn into the hulk
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He's always angry. He is simply able to contain his anger until he needs to use it.
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>>90683133
It's basically showing that he can get Hulk whenever he wants to.
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Tell me, Hulk fans. Which is preferable?

Banner and Hulk as separate entities?

Or

Hulk as a manifestation of Banner's subconscious?
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>>90683163
>>90683170
>>90683213

Why can't he control it earlier in the movie?
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>>90683213
Does he think about his waifu getting blacked? How does he do it?
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>>90683236
He was extra pissed off
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I always laugh at that because I imagine throughout the rest of the movie he is the angriest, most bitter asshole inside his own head.
>Who the fuck is this iron shitfuck god damn
>that uniform looks like ass. You're representing America you shit, stop looking so ass
>fucking helicarrier wasting tax dollars just to look cool
>fucking black iron man
>fucking Loki. Fucking Thor. Why are we dealing with this and not just him? Fuck.
>I don't give a shit if that Robin Hood guy is this bitch's friend or not, he shoots an arrow at me I'm shoving it up his ass
>my feet hurt
>why can't I get my own fucking movie?
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>>90683133
it means if you try and shoot Bruce Banner in the head he will not die because he is always The Hulk... no matter what form he appears to be in.
Much how like the impact from falling thousands of feet from a military flying fortress can not kill him.
That's his secret.
Bruce Banner cannot be killed by conventional means and neither can The Hulk.
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>>90683235
The latter.
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>>90683235
Second. Hulk as a manifestation of Banners mental issues
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>>90683133
It means he's always angry. He's just also always calm about it, until he needs to be the Hulk.

Instead of trying to suppress his anger, he's learned how to accept it as a part of himself.
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>Can someone explain this to me?

The answer is that there was a version of the story where Banner had a character arc that payed off with him being able to control Hulk in the end but Whedon cut it out to make time for more quips and CGI laser fighting.
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>>90683236
Loki was fucking with his mind.
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>>90683236
Literally magic.

Am I really the only one who picked up on the "LOKI IS USING MAGIC TO TRY TO KILL EVERYONE" gambit? I hope not because Black Widow basically explains it to the audience.
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>>90683374
I really don't like Whedon's tomfoolery in Age of Ultron.
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>>90683374
That arc happened in TIH.
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>>90683374
>there was a version of the story where Banner had a character arc that payed off with him being able to control Hulk in the end

Yup. It's called "The Avengers".
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>>90683374
No one is going to ask for a source and will accept this anon's word as fact.
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>>90683133

Have you never existed in a state of constant irritation that constantly threatens to seethe forth into full blown anger for days at a time?

I wouldn't recommend it, shit sucks. Banner's life is literally hell.
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>>90683133
Joss Whedon wrote it. What else is there to understand?
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>>90683444
Is today your first day on the Internet?
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>>90683170
I don't get this. They established in The Incredible Hulk, it's based on his heart rate for whether or not he turns into Hulk. And they've kept it as canon because new actor Hulk talks about how he destroyed Harlem. So even if he's always secretly angry in his head, how the hell does Bruce elevate his heart rate so incredibly fast than the transformation is instantaneous? It goes beyond controlling your heart rate, the mother fucker literally hit the gas pedal like he was a car.
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>>90683512
He mastered breathing or some shit at the end of TIH.
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>>90683133
He's angry but focused and his mental discipline is what keeps the hulk in check
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>>90683235
on the one hand I think the latter makes more sense for the character, however I do like the idea of hearing the conversations between the two
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>>90683236
that was the Hulk appearing as a defensive reflex (since the helicarrier was being attacked) as oppossed to anger
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>>90683544
Holy shit, I forgot about that stinger. I kept thinking it was the one where he says in Spanish to some guy "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry", but that was the other Hulk movie that was swept under the rug.
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>>90683512
Correlation =/= causation. A high heart rate isn't the trigger that turns him into the Hulk, his anger does. Heart rate is an indirect way to measure his anger. Once he gained the ability to control his anger the heart rate was no longer relevant.
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>>90683163
>hates
is not the same as anger (except for Trump die hards)

>>90683236
>Why can't he control it earlier

This -
>>90683376 and >>90683381: the problem with these two opinions is, if that's the case, why does Loki need to bother, once he gets on the carrier he can control everyone's mind, he doesn't need to allow himself to be imprisoned. Does he really think that Thor will die from the glass cube? Does he need Hawkeye to be there so ScarJo can bump him on the head to bring Clint back to the Avengers before the end battle? Etc. etc.

It's just crappy, lazy plotting/writing.
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>>90683133
He frequents /v/.
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>>90684055

>(except for Trump die hards)

What?

Go back to /pol/ please.
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My cousin's secret to control his diabetes was to ALWAYS eat sugar. It was a great technique. It's a shame he died.
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>>90683236
He can do it when he wants.

He can also do it when Hulk wants.
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>>90683235
The latter, but I also don't mind when Hulk is reasonably coherent/intelligent instead of just roaring ape man.
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>>90683381
m8 it's been 12 years since the prequels ended and 18 years since they started and to this day pretty much nobody gets that Palpatine is using his dark side force powers to fuck with the weak-minded and cloud everything the whole way through
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>>90683255
>Scotty from Austin Powers
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>>90683133
> I am literally retarded, spoonfeed me
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>>90683700
The scene where he says it in Spanish is ALSO in TIH. It's early in the movie.
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>>90683236
You're got it wrong

It's not like his Hulk form is Super Saiyan and he can turn it on and off whenever he wants, it's that he can USUALLY control his anger - and so can voluntarily unleash the beast.

But the anger is so much that sometimes he CAN'T control it and so INVOLUNTARILY unleashes the beast.

Basically it's like a pressure valve.
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>>90687450
He's thinking of the ending of Hulk, where he says it in Portuguese
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>>90684892
To be fair that does sound like the best excuse for "everyone acts like idiots because the plot needs them to".
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It's just like ejaculation. When you're young, you blow your load super easy, then maybe you start to think about baseball or whatever to delay it, then eventually you become familiar with the feeling that warns you that you're about to burst and you learn to relax and stop yourself. You can be at the edge for ages and just reel yourself back in when you need to, constantly ready to blow, and at any point there you can just stop restraining yourself and let loose.
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