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How's Your Webcomic? #354 2017-03-11 09:09:48 Post No. 90621229
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You've got a webcomic, right? Post about it here. Share WIPs, pages, drawings, scripts, whatever. Get comments and critique.
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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/
>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed
>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/
>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)
>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#
>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.
>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/
>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf
>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/
>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics
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Working on animating these monitors. Heres a heavily compressed gif.
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>>90621474
nice
reminds me of invader zim
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help with design pls
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>>90621474
dude I was like 80-90% with you before, but this is starting to look really awesome
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>>90622742
he looks alright to me! more beard would be welcome and appropriate for that outfit
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guys im using the simple tumblr webcomic theme
but i have a problem, the "next" "previous" and random buttons only show up at the bottom
and i would like to have them above my comic page below my header
how do i change it i tought it would be like that by default but only get buttons at the bottom
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>>90622742
He honestly looks pretty cute right now, though a little short. How old is he supposed to be? I think you could make the color of his pants duller, either make them dark grey/black or washed out blue.
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>>90623027
he's supposed to be young though
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>>90622742
Too white.
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>>90623302
It's a little hard to tell that he's supposed to be young by how broad his shoulders look, and how he seems to have a stocky build. Perhaps you could try to round out his features a little, give him fuller cheeks, maybe a fluffier/swooshier cape too.
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>>90623302
how young? I had a pretty good beard when I was 14
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>>90623465
you mean like stubble or beard beard?
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>>90623188
Messing with the code.
You have to locate the code that represents those elements and the image in the <body> of the page.
Once you do that, you must move the code of the first above the image.
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>>90623515
I was thinking just a little chin fur, kinda like doublepines' dipper. this guy looks lumberjacky.
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>>90623403
>swooshier cape
you mean like a lighter cape?
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>>90623687
so it is just as i tought
any clue on how it should look or how many lines long it should be?
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>>90622995
Awww, thanks. I'm really trying to make something genuinely good.
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>>90623750
Well not lighter, but looser. Something oversized and baggy could help emphasize your character's small stature/young age.
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Well, this coding for my site is beyond me.
I have to edit a plugin to get it to do what I want. I'm going to have to skip it and move on until I learn more coding language. I may be able to find a work around.
Blah Blah Blah. Can't complain to much. Fixed a number of other small things with my site.
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>>90624092
he isn't really supposed to be small, just young, like 19-21 yrs old
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>>90624581
Ah, okay. By young I was thinking ~12, ignore everything I've said then. His character designs looks pretty good as-is, then.
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Lots of yelling in this chapter.
(Bonus points for anyone who correctly guesses the actor we based the guy behind the desk on)
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>>90625356
Very nice
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got so much stuff written down, good thing 90% of what you come up with never makes it on the page
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great i located the code for the next, previous and random buttons
but now i don't know where to put them so they appear right above my comic page
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>>90625805
try right in front of the code for the comic page
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>>90625827
how does the code for the comic page look like?
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>>90625973
youre the one coding it
ctrl-f 'img' or something
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Maybe someone here could help me find some reference materials. Basically the start of Esper Girl Oko has the titular character in handcuffs as she's being detained by an analog of Interpol, so they're briefing her to determine what kind of threat she is to the world with the potential of being "removed from the chess board"
I need references as to what backgrounds i should use and what I can do to make the first few pages hook the reader in.
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>>90626228
hmmm, doesn't Zenigata work for Interpol? maybe some Lupin episodes will have appropriate backgrounds to reference
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>>90626292
I'd have to find a scene where Lupin has been arrested and is being questioned by him. The Interviewer is named Rojo and for simplicity sake he's a red-haired Agent Smith from Matrix
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>>90626406
ahh so specifically a detention-y area
the only scenes like that I can think of are in some episodes of Venture Bros when they're being questioned
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>>90626477
ah, the infamous Cleaner seen, that helps.
The more references the better though
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Yay i managed to put the code for the buttons in the right place
but now if i use the alternative layout the sidebar gets fucked
eh whatever i'll use the normal layout
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>>90626228
Ok, so tone is something I need to focus on. She's in deep shit and she knows it, all she can do is tell the truth and it might not be enough to save her skin, but she doesn't regret anything (almost) about what she did that put her in those cuffs.
So i'm curious about what I can do to keep that tone going
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>>90627565
Gonna bump this on up
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>>90623728
>>90623391
>>90623295
like this?
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>>90628953
i liked the first one better
i don't know what those anons were saying for me it looked like a young guy
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Making desert region guy in generic fantasy Europe. They wear a lot of layers because, to them, it's fucking cold there.
Which of these designs is best? I'm leaning to far right at the moment.This actually belongs in a batman/donut thread but there isn't one up and I'm not about to make a new one just for this.
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>>90628953
yeah that works great. this guy looks like a guy I'd hang out with and maybe we'd beat up monsters together. minor monsters, around 60-80 pounds.
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>>90630179
interesting concept, the heatproof desert layers being thicker so they're more for insulation. i wonder, if they find the desert DAYS cold, how deadly are desert nights to them?
Use all of them, for different people, so the culture isn't all wearing the same outfit. but for the main guy... yeah either middle or far right, depending on how much he has to use his arms in action scenes.
>>90627565
not sure what you're looking for here
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>>90630310
I mean they're from the desert and currently in generic fantasy setting, so roughly Norway and such.
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>>90630378
oh i see, i read that wrong.
okay then the furs are the best because logically they havent had time to make custom-tailored garments suitable for the weather.. so realistically they would buy local clothing and look like brown norwegians, but for visual distinciton let's stick with furs. especially furs of norwegian animals as opposed to them having carried desert-animal furs all this way
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Newest Kevin page.
I know it's a bit weird and seems out of place, but I'll explain what's happening soon enough.
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>>90631302
makes sense to me, you're showing us some backstory
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I love preppy bitch villains. I've been listening to Popular and Candy Store as I've been working on my comic, which is a completely different genre.
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Updating once a week seems to have been a pretty good decision so far, I managed to sketch out my next 4 pages and get one of them inked, so I have at least a semblance of a buffer now.
Also I recently reread/caught up on Ava's Demon and remembered how damn good the art was in that. It made me want to brush up on my own digital painting skills a little, so here's my attempt at a portrait.
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>>90634197
great stuff. I need to brush up on that too.hehehe brush up i get it
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>>90621229
working on a new page of GGZ
um... what happened to the last thread?
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>>90634197
The painting itself looks good, the only critiques I'd have would be to move the eye closer to the ear and move the nose and mouth up a bit. This is a rough version of what I mean.
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>>90639045
not the artist, i knew something was bothering me! and.. actually a lot of HSM's characters seem to have really close-set eyes and low nose/mouths.
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>>90639157
Anon who posted the edit, I notice a tendency towards long, narrow faces too. This can definitely be a stylistic thing, but this particular piece is realistic enough that having the eye so close to the nose makes the face look deformed.
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>>90639035
Shame drove everyone away.
Just like this one.
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>>90639045
Oh, thanks for the correction! That eye placement looks a lot better now that I look at it, it never occurred to me that I was drawing them too close. The low nose/mouth is semi-intentional, but she does look much nice with more realistic proportions here.
>>90639157
Question, are the proportions off-putting? I've been trying to make my characters faces look better since they were kinda wonky last chapter, and I'm still in the phase of finding face designs that work.
>>90639425
Do you mean in the character drawings I've posted here? I've been drawing lots of long faces lately because I'm predisposed to draw round faces. Pretty much all the characters I already had designed have round faces. I'm still trying to find a way to give my cast varied faces while still making them fit in with the look of the rest of the world, so any advice would be appreciated.
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>>90639871
it's a tiny bit offputting but the only real issue is how it's almost everyone. Like, laserwing has a lot of faces like that too (and a lot of them on girls, which exascerbates the problem), but there's also rounder-faced people too, for variety. now granted your comic has only just started so it only has a few people, but.. there's a definite trend, and you're about to introduce this sphinx lady whose face is even longer, and she's a feline sort so that's the last thing you'd expect (as opposed to, say, a llama woman.. which would be cute and why the fuck isnt that a thing)
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>>90639035
its finished, see it on the website:
*Website: http://ggz.thecomicseries.com/
i couldnt post the page because i keep getting this weird captcha error: "Error: Your image contains an embedded file."
>>90639502
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what do you mean?
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>>90639871
No problem. It can be hard to strike a balance between your style and what people actually look like in semi-realism, which is why it's always good to do studies of real people and give yourself basic guidelines before you draw in the features. For you I'd also keep in mind that the eye appears to get farther away from the nose as a person turns their head, so even if her eye is that close to her nose in front view, it shouldn't be in 3/4 view.
>Do you mean the character drawings I've posted here?
Yeah, and your comic pages. Your characters do have varying facial features and face shapes, but overall they seem to stick to a bit of a formula where the eyes are big and close together, the nose is long, and the mouth is fairly close to the chin. This isn't terrible because it makes your art recognizable and your characters are distinct enough to be more than just recolours but if it's not what you're going for I'd try experimenting with facial features more, like making eyes really small or far apart or having a really squished face.
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>>90640060
I see what you mean. Mildew was originally intended to have a very round face in my original sketches/pages but it got longer as the comic progressed. I've been trying to push it back in the opposite direction, but I think I'll try to go a little further just to differentiate her face a little more.
Sphinx lady actually isn't showing up for at least a few more chapters. I was rather pleased with her face as-is but I'll see what I can do to make her more cattish. I thought a long face might fit because I was trying to make her resemble a lioness/cougar rather than a house cat.
Lastly, could I get some thoughts on these two character's faces? They're gonna be showing up soon, fairy girl is going to pop up ~7 pages. I guess they're an example of some characters I have with rounder faces, but do they look too samey right now?
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>>90641995
>fairy girl
>girl
did not catch that
I like the imp?
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>>90641995
yeah it's totally interesting. none of it's BAD exactly. it's your style.
It just means that, when it comes to accidentally overdoing it, you have no wiggle-room. a hair too far and you've curdled the milk.
the fairy is cute byt i'd smallen her nose, A just to make her more unique and B to make her more pixielike (and her figure is already pretty solid and masculine, unless that's what you were going for) plus make sure to enlarge that cranium, it's on the small side. but I super dig her cute boots and her awesome arms. If you were trying for a 'cute pigtail' hairstyle, you want to remember the 90-degree angle rule that governs everyone from mickey mouse's ears to sailor moon's odango
the grumpy goblin there is fucking awesome and is my favorite character.
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>>90642353
should have added:
if, instead, you were going for 'bug antennae' pigtails then you did just right and keep them that way.
by the way just going to edit something here, not to 'fix' but just to show you what jumps out to my eye. I wonder if perhaps the close-eyes thing is because you (quite rightfully) use the nosebridge as a guide for the far eye in a face that's turned to the side, but maybe follow that guide a little closely.
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>>90642651
Dude the right one looks so bad
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>>90641376
It's been like 6 months since I last did proper face studies, I need to get to doing those again. Thanks for the advice.
As for faces, I'm trying to go for a pseudo-anime-ish style. Big eyes are pretty much a given, but I've been giving my characters large noses to try to stay out of the "animu" zone. I'll definitely try to make the noses/mouths higher up and the eyes further apart.
My goal is basically to have my characters' faces be diverse and recognizable from one another, but still work as cutsey attractive animu-esque faces. I pretty much want to do Mogeko character designs with Fullmetal Alchemist facial diversity.
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>>90642353
>>90642651
Okay, thanks. So would you mean something like this?
And yeah, her pigtails are antennae and they're expressive, so I don't want to have them frozen in one position all the time.
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>>90639045
I would like this post
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>>90643020
agreed, but you get my point, right? more forehead, more cranium, less chin... is just what occurs to me. Not an absolute 'must'
>>90643962
yeah like that. Maybe a little more cranium still, but this IS a tall lanky girl, right? so she doesn't have to look super petite like the typical julia roberts fairy. She already has a lot of personality and that's great. the impression I get is a really energetic girl, maybe a mako mankanshoku sort.
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>>90643962
Let's not forget that hair sticks out somewhat from the skull. What about this?
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>>90643962
not to overwhelm you with suggestions, but a rule I always think of is "where would a moustache go, if they had a moustache?" and it keeps me from making upper lips too large. Of course lots of great artists violate that all the time, to great effect, including Monkey-sensei and good ol' Miyazaki, but it keeps you thinking about a skull and the distance from the nose bone to the teeth to the bottom of the mandible
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The worst part about hiatuses is that everyone forgets who you are.
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>>90645406
i forgot your name and the comic's name, and what the comic is about, but I didn't forget you!
your art is actually visibly better since the last time I paid it attention, so don't think for a second your hiatus made you rusty
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>>90645472
Ah, thanks! The comic's name is Cult Control, but I've hesitated to share it's site since I made the beginner's mistake of writing the basic steps of the chapter without thinking about the details. This results in the comic so far being somewhat lopsided with uneven pacing, but lucky each chapter is only loosely connected, so I'll be able to make a fresh start eventually
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>>90646015
I'd bookmark it now if you did share it. also, good name.
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>>90646519
http://cultcontrol.tumblr.com
Still a work in progress
Bad part about the name is that you can't Google it, it returns bike results for some reason
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>when your creation lives in the shadow of a bicycle
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I know that each case is different but there is a chart or a general estimate for analyzing the "success" of a webcomics?
X follower in Y months = good result or average, bad better stop, etc.
if it does not exist we could try to create it with our experiences / observations etc.
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>>90650661
If it could be boiled down to a simple formula, more people would have successful comics.
Probably the number one thing for having a successful comic is something that can no longer be achieved and that's "Being one of the first ones to do it."
Many of the most popular webcomics right now were ones that started in the late 90's/early 2000s. They got popular and successful because they were the first ones doing it. Most, if not all of these comics are really not even that good in retrospect, but it was something no one else was doing at the time.
Now, webcomics are a dime a dozen, and you really, REALLY have to do something to make yourself stand out.
Probably the first and most obvious thing is if you have a really good, unique, or otherwise attractive art style. Most of the time, people probably aren't going to even bother looking if you have a really shitty looking comic, or a bland, uninteresting style.
Then once you get people in, you have to have the hook to keep them, and that's good writing, or at least a coherent story and/or interesting characters.
But that's why I say there's no real formula, because sometimes even really nice looking comics with great stories go unnoticed. Sometimes the subject matter at hand just isn't very interesting on the whole, so it gets passed over by most people, so your subject matter and how you execute that also plays a big part.
You really can never tell. Sometimes the weird, seemingly uninteresting comics get a big following.
It also helps to be a pretty personable author. Interacting with your community/fans/followers, and not being a gigantic holier-than-thou douche will do you a lot of favors too.
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Bamp
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>>90651126
i think you missed the point there, they were asking if there was a way to measure success not how to become successfulgood advice though
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I have 4.6k followers on social media. a month ago I had 400.
How?
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>>90654862
I want to ask for a link so I can see what your doing right...but I know your gonna be a fag and say no
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>>90655476
Nice, iv always felt your style would appeal to people that's why I never criticize it even though it's not exactly my cup of tea, keep it up brother. can I ask what you THINK has helped with the stream of followers lately?
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So I was thinking about making the comic in these four panel formats.
Thing is, A) I don't know the best file size and resolution for comics like this, B) I don't know if people would like it like this and C) I don't know whether or not to have panel borders, seems somewhat intrusive
what do you guys think, here's a draft for the first page, is this format good?
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>>90654549
the only reason to measure something so numerically would be to try to replicate it mathematically
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>>90655705
Sure. But it makes no sense to me.
I posted some preview pages- about a month ago. That's it. I get between 150-200 new people a day. I try to post every few days, now.
It was at 1k before I noticed the gain, though, so I don't really know what set it off.
If freaks me out.
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>>90655761
4-panel format is good.
file size is irrelevant. make the resolution at least 2500 pixels wide while working on it, ideally 3000+
when you're done, shrink it to 1000 pixels wide.
definitely have panel borders, they're not intrusive, they delineate the panels. it's impossible to read without them
of course people will like it, they have no choice
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I agree with >>90651126 though there are a few things I'd like to add.
Yes, webcomics that started in the early years of the internet still have a massive amount of readers. People who've been sticking around for more than 10 years or so.
However, there a few other things that can determine why a comic does good or bad, apart from the artwork.
For example; Text. Huge texts on pages, long sentences or the usage of too many (difficult) words in one speech bubble. This can cause a reader to loose interest because it's just 'too much'. Especially when not knowing what the story is about, and having to read endless explanations is something that personally turns me off.
Paneling/layouts can also be an issue. If there are too many panels on a page, or if the paneling is badly aligned, a page can look messy and confusing. Panels should guide the reader through a page, and if a page is leading the reader everywhere except the right direction, it gets confusing to understand. If a comic has issues with either the text and the paneling, it can give off a very displeasing look and feel, and it won't be very attracting to read.
>>90654862 >>90655890
There're a few reasons as to why I guess
>Buying followers
>A bigshot who put you in a spotlight or reblogged/mentioned your stuff
>Actually having a comic that's interesting enough to a lot of people
>Your drawing style is something that's popular right now and you're pulling it off very well
>You interact a lot online and lead people to your comic in some way
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I've come up with the idea of a "suffering midwife" type of character for my comic, women forced to lug around giant bags of breast milk for the newborns they watch over, but I worry if I don't play my cards right it could go from dark and tragic world building to 2edgy, any of you guys have thoughts on the topic of avoiding edge shit while exploring a dark setting?
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>>90655903
>make the resolution at least 2500 pixels wide while working on it, ideally 3000+
>when you're done, shrink it to 1000 pixels wide.
Why?
I really don't know much about this sort of thing
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>>90655965
I haven't bought any followers (how do?) and I am pretty quiet online, really. I spend most my time drawing and reading.
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>>90656224
Read some Dickens, or listen to audio books while you draw. 19th century London is as dark as it gets, but Dickens never shows any edge, really. He also remembers that there are decent and terrible people to be found in all walks of life. That last point is key. Kindness exists everywhere, even in hell.
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Just wanted to let the dude who wrote the "dos and don'ts for setting up a website" know how astoundingly autistic he is.
What's this fixation with two-step verification, cloud, phones?
Holy shit, dude. Half of your guide is about how to create an e-mail account, not a website.
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>>90656276
The only other option is that you're a witch.
Burn the heretic.
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>>90631302
Why is this little ass kid walking around with that fucking pillow
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>>90656262
because if you try working smaller than that, your lines will look shitty and it'll be really hard to do a good job. you'll be in this limbo between pixel art and good lineart, and all your mistakes will be glaring
and because the display size is limited on people's monitors. shrinking it down hides a lot of your rough edges
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>>90656224
that sounds interesting and practical.
All your questions rely on what the context is in your comic
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>>90658954
Asking the important questions
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>>90656635
From what I've experienced, 2 step verification is worth it and only takes you like 5 minutes, but a lot of the other stuff isn't necessary.
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>>90639035
HD version bump
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Agrest the Thief has finished it's first chapter!
You can read it here: http://agrestthethief.tumblr.com/
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>>90662572
>lazy borders
>no background
>terrible proportions
>rigid speech bubbles
>rigid dialog
Do you even care?
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>>90662745
she's looking cuter than ever, and that yawnsneeze.. i just wanna hug her
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>>90663068
dont underestimate me anon, I know what im doing.
:^)
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>>90663068
he cares about your replies. stop replying
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started makin description profile pics for my characters to display here https://happygutsworld.tumblr.com/characters
i'll add a few more today
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>>90663970
if you ever were wondering how to make that sound a little less tropey or in case the mouse's lawyers were to get on you someday (shit, they sued hulk hogan), I think the term you want is "does not use pronouns or conjugate verbs"
also, she LIKES making guttural noises? instant waifu. we have that in common
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>>90656224
'Midwife' probably isn't the word you're after; a midwife helps deliver babies. A wetnurse was a woman who was hired to breastfeed someone else's baby (for whatever reason).
Also, your illustration reminded me of the statues of Artemis Ephesia, who was depicted with multiple breasts.
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I'm gonna finish this scene, and based on some commentary I've received, put some hard explanations about setting and the relationships of characters thus far.
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>>90666429
cutie, at your age that's excessive.
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>>90665663
Ah, you're right, I always get the two confused, and i'm glad the multiple breasts thing came across clear, its what I was aiming for
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>>90666759
i got it backwards, i thought we were supposed to see her tits as similar to the bags of milk
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>>90666784
That works too, all that matters to me is that the viewer sees a connection between her breasts and the bags
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My friend and I are starting work on a few webcomics. I have a few writers contributing including myself, but I'm the only artist. It's all just free from our hearts, and to build a portfolio for pitching to real comic publishers.
Are there actually amateur colorists and letterers who would contribute to these comics at no monetary compensation? And know how to keep a schedule. Where would I even find them?
It's not a "hiring you for colors" deal, its a "hey, we're starting from the bottom and creating comics from scratch, come join in for the ride"
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>>90667886
oddrich is a good colorist, that's all i know
I can honestly say I wouldn't mind lettering if someone really liked my handwriting, but it seems like a silly thing to do when I could be replaced with a font
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>>90662572
working on a new page and what not
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>>90668010
bump!
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bump. update comin soon
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You guys think downscaling power levels could work on a comic with shounenshit style fights?
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>>90672404
before it starts, or after? after is hard.
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>>90672645
From what I have on my draft, it's very likely that the peak power level possible in my setting would be seen halfway into the first arc; the following arcs would have characters applying Rude Goldberg logic to much weaker powers in an attempt to reach that power level's impact.
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>>90644343
>>90644471
Thanks for the pointers, but I don't want her to look too neotenized. She's supposed to look youthful, but not like a child. Plus, her friend, the gremlin boy I posted, is supposed to have a very child-like face himself, and I feel it would be a little much for them to both have childish faces.
Also, here's a subway psa ad I made for a background. I understand why graphic design is it's own job separate from just drawing because I am terrible at this.
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I did this.
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>>90673616
yeah that can work okay, you just have to think guerilla. a lot of /m/shit has stories where the big giant deadly machines are not taken out by similarly huge and deadly machines from the opposite faction, but by the little critters nobody gave any thought to, who work things out juuust right to hit the death star right in its exhaust port.
ideally any kind of powerlevely shounenshit should already be using some amount of this: DBZ was at its best when goku wasnt the strongest, but the guy with the best bag of tricks
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>>90673634
I figured as much. It's unusual for a fairy but by no means sticks out as wrong. and I love that gremlin. definitely more childlike that one, albeit with a slightly large nose but only slightly
and the PSA is a crackup riot
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>>90674018
mmm I could go for some jerky. that should be spelled 'dried' by the way
i love that she has lost her pride over a piece of meat defeating her.
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>>90674081
How do you think it would work if whoever had that power level fizzles out and dies and the means to reach it completely disappear after its first use?
Spectacle creep worries me a lot.
>>90674018
>Wayra
>ENG
Best wishes, llamabro.
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ColdFusion智 (ID: !!jbouFAho9ee)
2017-03-13 04:42:55
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hope the puns here work okay. you guys are smart
also hope the mods can be nice, but they probably are, given the very creative Miss Canada up there.
that's two down, one more to wrap up and the split-up will be over. Sorry the pacing didn't work out so well, but I feel each gets to shine better with fewer others around, and are also less OP.now I can finally get back to playing zelda. it almost itches whenever I'm not playing.
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>>90674493
it's worth a shot, but if everyone loves that character it might suck if he stays dead
i had this idea for a character who's borrowing another's power and frequently talking to that person, who's trapped in some object or another dimension or whatever, and slowly learning how to use it.. and then at some climactic moment they're released, so now the powers you've come to know and love are being used by their original owner again, and that first one now has to figure something else out. Kinda shades of Bleach but something more individual
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>>90674493
Im a Alpaca
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>>90667939
A digital letterer needs just as much aesthetic and foundation knowledge as a hand-letterer
the only difference is the method of the labor. All the golden rules still apply
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>>90676015
oh you .. wait, what? you wanted someone to type for you? I don't understand
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>>90664394
Oh yeah that sounds way better, thank you im changing it right now
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>>90676037
It's a lot more than typing; lettering is an art. While setting the type is indeed part of the process, having knowledge and experience in the craft is the difference between simply typing in copy-pasted bubbles, and a letterer doing paid work for Image or the big 2.
There's still indeed an analog charm to hand-lettering, but most professional lettering is digital now due to deadlines and efficiency. And they do a lot more than just typing out the letters.
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>>90667886
what exactly is your comic about, if it's a fun idea i guess i could help with coloring from time to time
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>>90676132
i think you have a false dichotomy there, what I had in mind was hand-lettering digitally
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>>90676171
>>90676169
I'll return here with the full pitch in a few months when we're recruiting the colorist and letterer
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>>90676244
lookin forward to it
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Just gonna drop this page here before I turn in for the night.
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>>90678067
you gotta love a situation where you cant even decide which name is worse
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>>90669493
wow. my linksys internet was out so long i made two more pages after i finished this one. Check em out yall:
*PAGE 35 FINISHED(low kb): http://ggz.thecomicseries.com/comics/36
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http://ggz.thecomicseries.com/comics/37
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linksys comes and goes and has a mind of its own and its so weak that messing with the captcha can kill it sometimes, the shit sucks
hd versions tomorrow
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>>90621229
Here's a small idea for my webcomic. Tear it apart if something looks off.
A city will soon be devoured by an invading army from an ancient civilisation and they will reach said city in 6 months. Only a mad scientist and his robot companion has discovered the planned invasion. Although the mad scientist's robot companion is VERY strong, they need more to push them back. The good news is, the city he's from has the strength to take them on as they used to be the hub for champion metahumans. The bad news is, they are no longer united. The organisation they belonged to has become a laughing stock, and have been causing more trouble to the city than they have been helping it. Incidentally, said mad scientist does not have a good reputation with said champions. He decided that he needs to defeat them in order to obtain their powers, but his robot companion suggests that they should try uniting them instead.
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Fan art for goth grills z
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>>90681478
You could have at least wiped away the pube on the left before you scanned it.
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>>90681797
Lel it's my normal hair but your right, shit!
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Publess version I'll delete the other when it lets me as I have been triggered by this , bones notice me mother fucker
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>>90681478
>>90682009
This art is nicer than it has any right to be
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Someone posted a comic in here a while back about a girl who received a possessed cougar skull in the mail from her friend and she had to fight taxidermy animals.
I lost the name/link, any chance someone remembers it?
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>>90682240
Nvm, changed up my keywords and found it
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>>90682240
>>90682277
What is the comic? That sounds pretty awesome, I wanna check it out.
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>>90682319
http://taxipsychy.thecomicseries.com
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>>90663068
You like dragging down people who work hard and produce a ton of pages but I bet you don't even have a comic, spud.
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>>90625356
Peter Cushing?
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>>90682726
He isn't wrong, but he is being rude. With a whole world filled with mediocre junk it's hard not to be irritated with a creator's lack of effort. However, a person who tries is still better than a person who never makes an attempt. He's a fool for expecting art from an amateur support thread that fits his personal standards. Posters aren't coming here if they already know what they're doing.
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>>90679712
hd version 1/3
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>>90682009
whoa! this is incredible! thank you! i have a handfull of fanart so i need to make a tumblr or imgur to dump it all and link t to the webcomic host site but i feel really bad not being able to credit anyone because its all by random anonymous people so far
>>90685035
hd version 2/3
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>>90685099
hd version 3/3
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>>90682726
Can we not act like Bones isn't an annoyance in these threads? He wouldn't be so bad if he had the patience to only post his completed works rather than 20 WIPs of every page, or even tried to take criticism. I mean, he's hardly put in any effort to improve/polish his work, even with all the advice people have given him over the months, I think it's a reasonable assumption to say Bones isn't trying.
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>>90685193
How will liberal bernie sanders voting goth Lilly act when she finds out her fearless goth leader T-bird memed for trump on 4chan using the chaos god kek and pepe and is basically an alt right goth?
~DRAMA BOMB~!~
>>90685241
whens the last time i posted 20 wips to a page or not taken any advice to heart, and my art is some of the best looking in the thread tbqfh so its pretty polished, so what the fuck are you talking about?
mfw
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>>90684760
>Posters aren't coming here if they already know what they're doing.
um what are you talking about? the thread is called hows your webcomic, not come here for help because you dont know what your doing
just any random webcomic artist can wonder in here and tell people how their webcomic is doing and post a update and talk about webcomic creation and behind the scenes stuff ya know?
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Here's some sketches of Kersha from Monster Lands!
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Here's some sketches of Kim as well. he hasn't shown up yet, but he will eventually as Marcus' love interest.
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So in my webcomic the Destructor has finally shown up to have the big fight.
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>>90686203
cute!
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>>90686203
fag
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>>90686249
such a nice guy
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>>90685241
Yes. He's isn't trying. He's either very retarded or a troll. He also likes to talk to himself to get people to reply so ignore anyone involved in a conversation with him.
Even you.
Even me.
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>>90680041
that was a lot wordier than it needed to be, not trying to shit on you just letting you know in case that's what your writing in the comic is like.
the premise is nice I suppose, I'd read it.
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>>90684760
>With a whole world filled with mediocre junk it's hard not to be irritated with a creator's lack of effort.
so you're irritated all the time? if everything is shit, that's supposed to LOWER your standards.
But yeah the rest of that I agree with
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>>90686394
surprisingly enough, marcus is a girl.
but this comic in general, yeah
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>>90682523
This is awesome.
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So I got invited to draw a short comic on an anthologie, but I have no experience on non web format, or short stories, any top tier inspirational stuff I should check???
I really don't know how to go about this.
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>>90688786
what do you mean non-web format?
but yeah there's a lot of great short-length comics I could recommend if I could just remember them. We've had a few of them post here
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>>90688926
I mean I do webcomic, on a horizontal page, equal sized panels, very different from an actual book page.
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>>90688166
What's so great about it?
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>>90689528
You got to fight a crazy thing you don't want in your life. Simple as that.
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>>90689046
As I see it, the only main difference would be that while you work in landscape, the anthology page would be portrait. If one of your pages is a 3x2 grid, then just make one 2x3.
Making comics is pretty much the same process no matter what the format. But find out what the anthology's page specifications are, and use that for the project, instead of sticking with doing your usual thing and trying to make it fit.
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>>90689720
>>90689046
Well I guess writing-wise would also be different, kind of like writing for a tv-series vs writing for an ad.
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>>90674766
That sounds pretty interesting.
I don't have a character that does that, though, but an EVA style light kaiju that is found on the verge of death and frankenstein-ed back to life to fight a much weaker artificial kaiju for a couple of minutes before dying.
For one, I don't like the idea of a plot device so I'm trying to make it a character of its own despite its inability to reciprocate most interaction, and for two, the idea that readers could get the impression that the story will be about kaiju or go back to them at some point when the point of that is about unleashing what would become the setting's magic system kind of has me worried.
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>>90687385
>A name derived from Mars representative of masculinity
>A girl
stop.
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Thoughts on webcomic collectives like Hiveworks and Spiderforest? Are there any actual advantages to joining one?
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bump?
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To practice how I'd handle lineart variance and general composition for the comic I'm working on I tried drawing the same character in the same pose at 3 different distances from the "camera". The background is just something I threw together but I think this gave me a far better idea of how I'll be handling things.
If anyone has any advice for how I should practice doing backgrounds in a way that doesn't draw focus away from the characters I'd really appreciate some inspiration.
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>>90685193
woops, posted the wrong version everywhere
here is the one i meant to post, eye shadow and studded belt
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>>90693500
since your work seems to have an emphasis on colors, I would try making things in the background progressively less saturated and more uniform the further back they are
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>>90694333
by things I should say "the color of your things"
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>>90680041
>>90687286
Ah. Thanks. I'll try to cut things shorter next time.
How the divided champions will be depicted in this story is kinda inspired what's going in the world atm. There's still villains, but the champions who used to fight them now have corroded morals who now only care about their pet political peeves than the big picture. As a result, they have been divided.
My question is, would it be too on the nose to base them on Marvel's current depiction of heroes or based them off drama that's happening on the net atm due to some Oompa Loompa becoming mayor or some shit?
And yes, Said mad scientist is motivated partly by hatred for said Champions for ruining his life, but his robot companion reckons he should let go and try to team up with some of them at least.
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>>90693784
launched a fan art page: https://ggzfanart.tumblr.com/
damn i miss boans, he/she was a fucking legend! his versions of my pages was hilarious, i secretly think it was pan pizza, but the style almost had hints of dewd in it as well, so boans could of been anybody
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>>90692200
she looks like a dude too but that is just the kind of comic this is
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>>90693440
I love the idea of the health inspector being called 'sanitation vigilance dept'
we don't usually put 'a' in front of spinach in english.
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>>90693500
it's weird how her head only seems small in the last one
I would suggest making the lines thinner as you go back
in general this is the kind of background you want.. no blacks, all colors. you can have outlines, but colored ones
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>>90694497
Why would you want to imitate either of those shitshows? make it something actually interesting and believable, not something decided by committee
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>>90694719
Because some of them ARE good ideas as villains. Albeit unintentional. Besides, I only plan a few of the Champions to be potential friends to make.
Basically, said robot and her creator have different ideals on how they should approach power, and well what the robot wants is for the heroes to be united again and make friends, her creators would rather have them be upgrades for said robot instead because he believed they too far gone off the deep end to be any use.
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>>90694664
Thanks, Anon. Worst part is it's common to call health inspectors "sanitary vigilantes" in Brazil, we really live in some bizarro country.
We will change it to "This is some fresh spinach!", is it ok?
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>>90693440
also I love that whole "References to old adventures" thing. it makes me imagine what the penguin king looks like
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>>90695791
it's funny how rarely people connect vigilance with vigilantes. one of the things I like about portuguese is how well the latin roots are used, even by the standard set by other latin languages.
yeah 'some' is good!
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>>90694595
Marcus is a boy
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>>90697148
oh what's the girl's name again?also getting increasingly glad I stopped reading this
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Not a lot of progress today i was busy with my job
but i managed to make these buttons for my tumblr
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>>90697536
good buttons! only thing I'd change is maybe the color, making them become brighter yellow as they go faster?
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>>90693500
You could also use lighting to bring focus to characters.
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>>90698359
To expand on what I mean.
Perspective of the back grounds and lighting (often cast shadows caused by perspective) Can lead the viewers eye through the page. Also what that one guy said about less saturated colors.
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>>90695206
>>90694719
To add to this, I don't intend to "imitate" them in the sense that I will make the mistake they make. Kinda like LH Franzibald. A character that everyone loves that's based on a person everyone hates in real life.
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>>90699798
Ohhh in that case, fantastic idea. by all means write some people whose flaws echo the poor writing of modern comics
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>>90699878
Exactly. Thanks. I want to know how far is too far though. Like, is there a limit to what I can do before it gets too preachy?
Like calling said hypothetical organisation the "Social Justice League" or some obvious shit like that.
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What kind of Webcomic do you perfer, /co/?
Long spanning stories with a lot of relationships and worldbuilding?
Gag-a-day strips that are genuinely funny and don't try to push any political agenda?
Pretty secuences of pictures with whatever context but amazing art?
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It's Saffron and Sage, page 20!
SaffronComic.com
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>>90701034
ill take any of the three but mostly one and three
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>>90700760
basically don't go so far that it takes everyone totally out of the moment and makes any reasonable person ask 'how the fuck are these real characters in this setting and they aren't dead?'
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>>90674734
I'd like this comic a lot better if it weren't for all the gratuitous preteen nudity.
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>>90702121
I guess it's the opposition to that that motivates me to keep including it. shrug.
she is at least 14 right now though, I think she's 15. just a kinda late bloomer, to contrast with her mom
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I'm trying to start a somewhat interactive webcomic. The interactive part is readers choosing the MC's weapon for that chapter. I'm not even sure if I'll get votes or replies from my followers/watchers on the sites I use. Want to help me out, /co/? https://strawpoll.com/g49cc97
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>>90701034
1 but with heavy emphasis on world building, ive noticed a lot of the stories i like usually just involve exploring interesting worlds and locations
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>>90702198
wanna give us the site too, so we can see what came of our choice?
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>>90702169
>I guess it's the opposition to that that motivates me to keep including it.
That's the kinda of maturity that has kept your comic at shit level.
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>>90702246
variable-comic.tumblr.com
Unrelated to the poll, how do I make sure the first page is the home page of my webcomic tumblr?
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>>90702169
That's gotta be the limpest excuse as to not admit you're a pedophile.
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>>90701034
Number one please. I really want to read more comics with characters who can charm me and lore I can theorize over.
Gag a day stuff is pleasant, but unless it's Perry Bible Fellowship tier, it probably won't stick with me.
I really don't enjoy comics that are just plotless threads of pretty images. If I wanted that I would be browsing Deviantart instead. If I'm reading a comic I want a plot, any plot, a bad one is better than none.
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>>90702831
It's not pedo if she's teenaged. It's hebephilia then.
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>>90702986
it's also not sexual just for being naked. with as many scandinavian-themed comics as we have here you'd think that concept would be a little more familiar.
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>>90703039
This nudity is just completely gratuitous though, there's really no reason for it to be there other than the artist wanting to draw a 15 year old girl naked.
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>>90698547
>>90694333
>>90694686
Took some advice and made another test panel.
Since this is an interactive "panel a day" webcomic I'm wanting to create a system so I can reuse environment images but for close up images I'll probably do something similair to what I've done in this pic.
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>>90703173
what a terrible urge
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>>90693440
>teflon
This comic has the best onomatopoeia.
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>>90702986
Hebephilia gives me the heebie-jeebiephilia
>>90703173
Also to talk about her genitals. It's weird.
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>>90703867
Ugh. The only thing worse than drawing something unacceptable is writing characters talking about it.
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>>90703867
>Also to talk about her genitals. It's weird.
It's the presentation of it that makes it especially uncomfortable.
Like, I have no problems with teens being portrayed as sexual beings, that's just a fact of life. I joked about dicks and tits all the time with my other female friends in high school. I honestly enjoy stories that that to portray teenage sexuality in an honest and intimate way, but that's really not what's happening with the 15 year old catgirl.
She just keeps getting naked and talking about cunnilingus out of no where, with no purpose/message attached. It just feels like the artist's inserting his personal fantasies into the story.
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>>90704205
a little context might help. she's supposed to be a 'wild child' sort with no filter, because she's more animal than human, her dad being a 3/4ths wolf werewolf and her mom being a cat transformed into a catgirl by a witch.. and she's been raised with her catwolf brother in a caravan, so she's not really in touch.
but on top of that she's feisty and gives no fucks. I guess the reason it doesn't come across as well anymore is that the more 'normal' characters have long since given up getting shocked by it
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>>90704205
>It just feels like the artist's inserting his personal fantasies into the story.
Well said, he even confirms it in the following post.
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>>90704425
Its kind of hard to get a read on that though, because every character seems to have the same wacky, non-sequitur personality, so she really doesn't stand out as someone out of touch, when they're all that way.
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>>90704597
they're ALL my personal fantasies, anon. even the boring ones.especially the boring ones
>>90704631
indeed. I've never had a good grasp on writing different personalities. and it doesn't help that the main culture of the setting is neither as uptight as ours nor as uptight as comedy japan or whatever. it's basically renaissancey fantasy shit. people bathe in rivers. fucks are given, but largely by the snootiest upper-class. that's why this little outing with Kaen (suggested, I believe, by someone in the threads?) was going to be a fun little contrast.. the prince guy who still blanches a bit.. yknow.. eh. whatever, it's almost over. i'll do better in the next comic.
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>>90682523
this is tumblry as fuck and I like it anyway
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>>90704692
oh and if anyone knows any writing exercises or instructions centered around making characters sound more distinct, please send 'em my way. I tend to just write for the ear, instead of writing for each character's mouth like I should. Hell when it comes to verbosity vs abbreviation, I write for the -word bubble-
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just posting a cute tony face. mistaire for scale
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>>90705649
Who cusses? Who says 'eff' instead of 'fuck?' Who uses proper grammar, and who uses improper grammar and then corrects themself? Does your character have any consonant sounds they trip up on? Does your character say "it's a dog eat dog world" or "its a doggydog world?"
Since comics are visual consider also what your characters are doing with their hands. Some people touch their faces a lot. Some people pat their conversational partner on the shoulder a lot. Some people shrug a lot.
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>>90625605
Cheers, anon!
>>90683354
Correct!
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>>90704631
That's because coldfusion is an autistic retard who has no idea what regular people act like.
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>>90685241
>>90686969
Speak for yourselves. At least he has a webcomic and posts it in the thread. Where's your webcomic huh? That's what I thought.
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As someone who wants to start a webcomic I just gotta ask. How did you guys come up with your character, topic of the webcomic etc? I honestly want to start one just so I could distract my head from time to time from university but I haven't had creative strike me yet at all and it's really frustrating.
Any tips?
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>>90666429
I want to smell Commisan!*SNIFFFFFFFFF*
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>>90621229
ok guys GGZ episode 1/chapter 1 is finished!
After I made the last page I went pack and drew in missing stuff like pieces to outfits, and colored stuff that i forgot to color in, and even painted in some new backgrounds here and there! So not only is it finished but its fixed and repaired as well!
its a total of 41 pages long including the cover page, so 40 actual pages of panels and story and you can read it on:
-comic fury: http://ggz.thecomicseries.com/
-taptastic: https://tapastic.com/episode/623701
-linewebtoons: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/ggz/introductions/viewer?title_no=66734&episode_no=1
-the duck webcomics: http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/GGZ/
-tumblr: https://gothgrillz.tumblr.com/
this episode of GGZ was called "introductions" and it introduced the goth girls, the next chapter is called "relationships"(working title) and it establishes all the romantic relationships of each character.
also now that its done i can reveal a big behind the scenes secret, the is a crown shape hidden on each of the main goth girls, weather it be there hair or hairband or something else, this signifies that they are both drama queens and goth queens! awww yeah!
Rebecca sugar did this with her main SU characters by having a star symbol on each of them signifying they where both the stars of the show and from outerspace, star people, yeah... show still kind of sucks and i only watch it for my waifu peridot, shes the only good thing about the show to be honest
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>>90710902
note: its going to take a while to replace all the pages on comic fury and the duck but all changes and fixes have been done on taptastic and linewebtoons!
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>>90710902
Damn that's pretty smart bro, are there gonna be any hot goth guys for the goth grillz to date?
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>>90709390
Think of it like writing a thesis. Come up with a statement or theory and then write towards its conclusion. Make it as fantastical or mundane as you want.
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>>90710902
ok comic fury is pretty much completely fixed and updated from beginning to end, im not worried about the duck and tumblr right now though
>>90711157
thanks and yes ofcourse!
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>>90711266
Will any of them date non-goths? Aside from the one dating the cheerleader obviously.
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>>90711379
at least one
i have to go now, i might get back on tonight or early in the mourning, if not then tomorrow for sure
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Who here draws withan Android tablet? What program do you use to keep a consistent comic size?
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Got any tips for costume design?
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>>90709203
herp derp no comic no opinion derp.
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>>90714070
Don't fall for the bait, man. This one guy has been defending Bones with ridiculous arguments for a while fishing for reactions
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>>90714462
I am not in my right mind.
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>>90705968ha, my ocd makes it so hard to write bad grammar or malapropism even when I want to. I actually had Hel use some vocabulary once and wrote a note under her saying "Hel doesn't actually know this word" but there's no other way to say it
ooooh body language. that's a great idea!! thanks. God I'm an idiot for mostly ignoring that so far
>>90709168
completely true. I never know how to write my own body language in real life either
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>>90713840
add enough detail to make it look cool but not so much that it's hard to draw and you never keep it consistent
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>>90713840
Make sure you have an idea for the overall aesthetic of your cast's clothing, is it haute couture, 80's fantasy anime-esque, 2000's scene kid fashion, golden age superhero costumes?
Get lots of references, both photos of real outfits (if you're trying to depict realistic clothing) and other fictional interpretations. Don't be afraid to make outfits that looks a little weird, that's what makes an outfit look memorable and unique. Keep in mind how a character's personality factors into their costume too.
Don't go overboard on colors and patterns, less is more. Don't go overboard on details, an outfit needs areas that are blank/simple to help the details stand out.
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eyy Facundo, you around?
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>>90714763
It's not bad grammar if a character has their own internal grammar. Give yourself some stricter rules for each character's personal voice so that your ocd goes off when you violate the rule.
Avoid phonetically spelling out accents though, nobody likes to read that.
Consider also that we talk differently in different contexts. Just like Japanese has formal and informal verbs, there are lots of things you would say to your wife that you wouldn't say to your mom
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>>90718517
Oh like when you're writing fanfic/greentext and you try to preserve their individual mannerisms.. that makes sense
next time I make a new character Ima write down a bunch of sample dialogues to establish their vocal character. I feel like I could do it for all but two of my characters right now, the ones who aren't the straightman. but apparently it doesn't come across well and I know I'm not consistent with it. Because I don't use them when I'm actually writing out the scripts really.
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>>90718631
I think you should also just think more about how the character's actual personality is and that will relate to how they talk.
Even within comedy, there's a way to deliver it to the reader without everyone spitting out one-liners and puns constantly. With everyone doing the same thing, none of them have any real definitive personality, and you really can't describe them other than what they look like and what their profession is. Which is generally considered not good.
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>>90718631
I suggest picking a grammatically correct sample sentence (hello, my name is blank and my favorite food is blank) and then rewrite it as each character (hey guys I'm blank and I love blank)
Drawing their face first might help get into their mindset
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>>90680041
Writing a synopsis or a description of your story idea should always be 1. Short 2.clear 3. Include who, what and how.
Define the Goal and the Obstacle.
Short version: A mad scientist must unite the people of his city in order to fight invaders.
Because that's it. I know, there's the robot sidekick and there's the in-fighting among the city, but: from your description, I don't see what the purpose of these story elements are in relation to the goal. The city : why is it hard to convince them about the threat? Why not just present them the evidence? Is there a civil war? Why? Is there an antagonist plotting to hide the truth? Why?
What is the OBSTACLE more specifically?
OK so the robot: apatently he is an impact character who guides the mad scientist so he doesn't use violence to save the city. Correct? What is their relationship? Why does the robot care? Is he the moral compass? Why does the mad scientist want to obtain their powers instead of uniting them? Is there an understandable, relatable motivation we could understand, even root for, to oppose the robot's view about uniting the city?
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>>90718779
That's good advice, but I definitely think about their personality a lot. Maybe even too much. It's the execution, actually USING that knowledge that I think I'm failing at. What do you think I should change vis-a-vis the comedy? because... lately all I can write is lame puns and exchanges that I think are clever, and wrote down in a notepad doc years ago, looking for an opportunity to use.
I do think it worked better in the original comic because they were all more extreme (vice guy, dumb guy, airhead girl, frazzled wannabe villain, uptight jerk, sarcastic smart kid, and two princesses), this cast is way too sensible, with just two kinda dumb ones (one of which is feisty and street smart and the other airheaded), three responsible adults (Two normies and one kinda chill aunt type), a smart one who's a little brittle emotionally, and a guy who is basically the token male, existing to say guy things and find girls hot.
The plan for the next iteration of the comic is to pare it the fuck down and get back to basics: debonair guy, goth chick, airhead chick, and smart kid who may or may not be kinda emotional. haven't decided yet. trying not to put the car before the horse.
>>90718812
shit titty fuck, that is a fantastic idea. it won't take long either. I'll just do that really quickly for mah own reference.
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ColdFusion智 (ID: !!jbouFAho9ee)
2017-03-14 10:01:29
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oh hey unrelated but... now that I've started including the ear detail, it occurs to me that I've been leaving out the tragus on elf/fairy type ears, instead just exposing the meatus. should I keep doing that, or should they have a tragus? my japanese animes tend to make a small tragus and a large meatus that it barely covers, but in 99% of the hairstyles I draw, that tragus would be covered.
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>unable to draw for two months
>Takes twice as long to scribble non-flat sketches again
FUCK.
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>>90720373
You cain't force it, just let it happen. It'll come back. This is already promising
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>>90718885
Thank you. I've been waiting for a post like this. This really helps. I needed someone to help dissect an idea for holes.
Okay, I'll try to expand this further.
Why it's hard is because his reputation kinda makes it impossible for people to listen to him. He USED to be in said Champion organisation as their tech man, up until a scandal that destroyed his reputation because they threw him under the bus. Coupled with the fact some of the lower ranked champions decided to kick him while his down by destroying his lab gleefully to make themselves look good. ("heroes fighting evil mad scientist" look.) Yes, there's a civil war among the champions, which eroded public view of them. They're used to their bs by now, but they clearly dislike them. It's kinda like a more antagonistic versions of the heroes from The Tick. Long story short, the mad scientist's slandered bad reputation makes him a "target on sight" by the other Champions. This in turn also makes him VERY VERY bitter. Which is why he only sees the other Champions as potential powerups for his combat robot.
Speaking of said combat robot, it/she was made to defeat them specifically. He was in a darker place at the time. Before he could use it/her to full power, something happened to that robot that caused it to become self aware. He kept upgrading its memory capacity to find new ways to defeat its enemies, until he accidentally created proper AI. The robot's very nice to the creator because it remembers every good deed he did to her stored in her memory, even down to the stuff he does to others (that aren't the champions who fucked him over at least). The robot learned goodness from him, even though he never intended it. The robot wants to unite the city's champions primarily because she believes they needs friends, and it would be a waste to see good potential flushed down the toilet.
Does this help? Feel free to comment.
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>>90720373
It will come back. Sometimes, you lose the mojo, sometimes it comes out full force. I guess when you feel strained because of your drawing, you can't excel. Just wait, and don't force it.
ALSO GAZE AS I AM PREPARING THE NEW CHAPTER. I finished the script, i'm now doing the planning. Here you can see Ezekihell meet Not-Skwisgaar, the rock therapist. He helps people rock.
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I made this, any thoughts guys?
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>>90723460
nice use of values anon
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>>90723460
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Very nice use of black/white, especially with that spot of yellow you have with the moose. Your art style is very charming, I like the simple Animal Crossing-like character design. My one criticism is that it's not that funny, as I assume you're going for a gag strip here. There's no set up or hints to the moose stealing the pants, it just happens out of nowhere.
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>>90723288
youre good at faces
>>90723460
youre good at naturalistic crotches on stylizedly boxy people. that's really hard to do well, square-cornered leg-pits are so awkward.
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>>90723460
The changes to the lips aren't consistent and don't read very well. If you wanna use lips like that, you should be a bit more committed to it.
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>>90723629
>>90723788
>>90723873
>>90723996
thanks for the criticism, very helpful!
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>>90710902
i just went back across all websites except tumblr and replaced 14 pages with new fixes and addons
ok, i have to go now.
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ColdFusion智 (ID: !!jbouFAho9ee)
2017-03-15 01:24:38
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Gave it a shot. didn't really follow the instrux exactly, and I ended up saying more with WHAT they said than how they said it, but at least I gave it some thought. Tried to go with a like and dislike for each. If nothing else I have a good refresher kinda cast page for people who are already this far
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>>90719581
Nobody is going to notice that shit man
This is what you think of instead of dialogue? No wonder
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>>90725498
Sasha is the only one who sounds distinct and halfway through it turns into a shitty quip.
Keep trying, you don't have it yet
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Would it be bad if I self inserted myself as one of the villians in my comic?
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>>90726046
no promises, alright?
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>>90725498
You know, for a second I couldn't understand what the hell you were talking about because you gave absolutely no context, but I'm assuming you're trying to determine your characters' voices.
They all sound like the exact same person, and one or two instances of that person adding quirks to mask their voice.
>>90726138
Depends on how self-deprecating and obvious it is.
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>>90720373
at lease you can draw
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>>90726350
>gave absolutely no context
sorry I didn't realize that was 3.5 hours ago. It felt like it was still the topic. I got so excited.
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>>90726431
Good joke, anon.
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>>90726561
but you're better thank pic related right
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>>90726619
I like this! but if the jellyman is supposed to be round rather than flat, you'll want to change the side view
>>90726561
and I like your little construction there too. obviously there's not much to talk about yet
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How's the font for the panel?
>read the pic...
backgrounds are hard
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>>90727039
the backgrounds may have given you difficulty, but it seems to have worked, because those are fucking great clouds. your grass looks a bit like fur, but still impeccably-drawn fur.
great expression.. the font is fine. but uhhhh... who's talking to whom? I forgot, does he have a talking item or something? the balloon doesn't seem to be aimed at that thing on his belt, looks like it's aimed at the amulet around his neck
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>>90726350
Well, it's the two main characters on a date and then I come in and try to take the girl. my power is that I can't be defeated by my own creations, after fighting for a little bit the main dude realizes my weakness, public domain characters and calls in the Dover Boys to beat the shit out of me.
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>>90727227
ah, so in a literal way. eh.. might be a little edgy
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>>90727108
Bingo! you got it right, it's the amulet when the panel's finish, along with the other pages, the reader will understand who's talking.
I really need to redraw this grass maybe make it as detailed as the flower instead of chicken scratches all over the page... it'll probably do me more good it i try to draw semi-realistic grass. Not too many but key parts that show it IS grass...
gonna go practice this before i put it on page.
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>>90726619
Not really.
I just love Dragon Quest a lot.That Killing Machine came out terribly flat dear god.
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>>90727227
This sounds like something a kid just learning about metafiction would write.
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>>90727394
not at all, it's overdetailed. remember, a hair is finer than a grass blade. you put in so many lines it looks like hair, and the lines are fuzzy. they should be sharp and there should be one-fifth as many.
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>>90727394
Don't listen to
>>90727759
You're doing a good.
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>>90727837
my point is, if that kind of grass is wearing him out, good news: you don't need to put that much detail in. It's actually hurting it at that level, and it looks fuzzy instead of sharp and clean. of course it looks good, it looks fantastic. maybe too good.
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>>90727396
>>90726673
> doing the /ic/ guide
>loomis
>fun with a pencilphotoshop can work right?
I feel like I'm getting nowhere
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>>90727912
It's really not hurting his composition at all, and if he wants to practice and get better at it more power to him. There's nothing wrong with trying, and I think encouraging someone to attempt a more challenging piece when they consider doing so is more productive than dissuading them from putting forth the effort.
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>>90728014
Trust me if you keep at it, you'll get there.
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>>90728014
these are still ending up a little flattened, though at least 3d flattened, like pillow shapes. Why don't you try doing some nice thick spheres ands tuff for a while? draw some pokeballs, draw some pumpkins
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>>90728030
So you don't think it looks more like fur or fungus than grass?
In any case, it's good that he has multiple points of input. One of the great things about these threads
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>>90727039
>>90727759
Agreed, this grass could look much more simplified. You COULD draw every single blade of grass if you wanted to, but if you did that, it could be best to keep them looking crisp. When you start getting loose and messy with your lines, it turns into fur. Even then, I don't think you should just draw every blade of grass here. It's just grass in this field and a few flowers, there's little variation. You can draw a few detailed stalks and a few looser stalks and the viewer can extrapolate from there. Drawing every leaf works best when you have more foliage/environmental variation like in pic related.
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>>90728014
A lot of it is mental rather than motor. A lot of it is stepping back and putting your mind to something else for a while before mulling over your work. A lot of it is being willing to make a lot of mistakes and take chances.
And a whole fuckload of it is just putting in the time and being willing to deal with the fact that it doesn't come easy.
Looking at that sketch, though, you're having trouble grasping form, and a lot of that is probably because you keep drawing things very similarly. Go crazy! Draw one of those faces from above! From below! From a weird diagonal! Try to understand these faces from a three dimensional perspective and act on it! Flail about and fail and try again and again!
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>>90727285
>>90727476
Oh ok, I guess I can ditch the whole idea all together than..
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>>90728476
Eh just put it away in the think bank for a while.
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>>90723196
To add to this. I don't necessarily want said mad scientist to be a pure innocent lamb (Let's face it, if he were, he wouldn't BE a mad scientist) but let's just say it's a dick getting fucked over by assholes. And the dick wants revenge against said assholes. (but thanks to his own heart and his robot's kindness, he doesn't really want to kill them.)
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>>90728288
oh yeah and I was going to mention earlier, if it's very LONG grass, it justifies more hairiness. the longer a blade of grass is, the more poorly it maintains its relatively stiff integrity
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>>90728581
this. there are no bad ideas, only bad execution. sit on it, think about it, maybe someday you'll find a way to really make it roll
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>>90631302
I think in the last panel, "None of it matters" is the more correct way to say that
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>>90656224
I think one important difference between something being "dark" and something being "edgy" is that edginess is unrealistic cruelty. The point to make your villains sympathetic has been said to death, but more importantly try and give everyone a reasonable but legitimately troubling situation (appropriate to the setting)
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>>90729133
>>90656224
Hold on, maybe "reasonable" isn't the correct word here, since your setting is clearly really dark and dystopian. I guess what I mean is that the setting won't work as well if the villains are all clearly evil and the heroes are all clearly good. Make the midwife appropriately depressed, lethargic, and crabby, but the difficulty is in balancing that with likeability
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>>90713840
Like previous posters said, make sure your costume isn't over-designed. I think designing a costume around a specific theme can lead to some really creative choices, and also looking at fashion relevant to your setting is really helpful
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>>90729133
I'd say it's not so much the unrealistic aspect, more like the way it takes you right out of the moment. darkness should evoke sad emotion in the reader, whereas edginess makes the reader give up on the story as pure unpleasantness that will never let up or have any depth
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>>90693784
in the last speech bubble, "since" should be changed to "sense"
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>>90729369
rare to see the mistake going in that direction. if there was any doubt he's trolling
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr0OePU6NN4
this isn't a bump at all now listen to some high quality meme music
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>>90628953
Blargh. First one was better. Ignore the Tumblrite.
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>>90731053
I think the tan suits him, he's pretty outdoorsy
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Did that thing coldfusion did, the characters saying the same sentence, but in there way. It was a fun little exercise.
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>>90731942
god dammit you're way better than me at this. teneleven points
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>>90731958
It's all about contrast in personality.
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>>90731990
I've gotten so lazy. everyone's just chill all the time. I mean their adventure is almost over, so by this time they OUGHT to have matured a little, but contrast and especially conflict is so much more fun. I actually have written down 'include more conflict' but it's hard to think of any that isn't just artificial
nyoh well.
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>>90686143
I like her_____feet
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>>90725126
remaking the cover page because the current cover page characters dont look anything like the characters in the actual panels
it was because i was going to make this a super cartoony comic book but nobody liked it on here so i made a new style that i think looks a lot better anyway that everyone seems to like now
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>>90732997
Done. hows it look?
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>>90733388
HD version tomorrow
and i just now got a random review out of nowhere that i didn't ask for, some one sent me a pm to let me know. here it is in this thread: http://comicfury.com/forum/viewthread.php?id=29589
its even more weird becuase im not able to use the forums on comic fury with this weak ass free local internet... so weird.. but also awesome random people i dont know are talking about me on random places on the internet without me even knowing about it
does that make me famous or something?
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I'm probably going to look at this page in the morning and have to correct a lot of mis-tilted hips and Tony's ridiculous stork legs
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I have many questions and doubts, help me!
I started a webcomics now for 2 months update 3-4 times a week (so they are not only 2 update 1 a month).
My main goal was to get "visibility" and then obtain even some commision to raise some money while also working in a comic book for future publication with a publisher so 0 money now.
I've uploaded to the various webtoon / tapastic / tumblr / etc sites the results are minimal will be like 100 subscripter if we eliminate bots or other, the active and commenting etc. are maybe 4-5 and obviously nobody had required commision.
-I should also create a personal Web site?
-If yes I would bring more users with various top webcomics charts etc. (currently not used)?
-With the web site and AD i can get something at least to gain the cost of the domain?
or
-I have to close all, the time used will never be "paid off" and use the time for submission to editor?
Sorry for any language mistakes
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>>90736095
Did you really expect success or even recognition in only 2 months starting out as a nobody? Fuck outta here.
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>>90733388
Looks good
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