How fuck can anyone justify the "power" of this character?

>>90558425
He's got the greatest superpower OP, money and tons of it

>>90558425
He has a sweet umbrella

>>90558425
Gotham is a cursed shithole and he knows the game.

>>90558425
You think Al Capone challenged all the other mob bosses to fist fights?

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>>90558425
How fuck can anyone justify the "power" of this man?

He was just a regular guy working in a barber shop and selling antiques

>>90558425
He's the most normal person in gotham.

>>90558425
In a city full of costumed nuts he took on a gimmick to stay relevant, he's got the sharpest mind and knows how to obtain money and people who will do anything to have it

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>>90558425
He is "neutral evil" in a world full of muh evil because evil villains

>>90558584
He was not being stalked by a weirdo in a bat cosplay and his enemies had no super powers

>>90558769
No he was just being stalked by A SUPERPOWER who could only get him on a white collar oversight and in the end he ended up going back to his mansion, granted it was because he was going insane with his dick rotting off.

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>>90558769
well, his enemies had political power

>>90558614
What is this from? I'm not really into Batman but the art style is fantastic

>>90558922
Joker asylum, short stories avoid different characters, most of them are good

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>>90558425
>He is just a regular guy

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>>90558425
>>90559458
>get called a fatass
>give that person's girlfriend AIDS

Seems like a sensible level of progression.

>>90558881

Which stand is this?

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>>90559458
>>90558614
>>90558425

Why did the Joker get so big again? The Penguin is the most evil kind of badguy: one who actually exists somewhere.

>>90558425
So is Batman.

>>90559467
Penguin does not fuck around.

>>90559487
>Gives people aids without fucking around.
How does he do it?

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>>90559487
>Penguin's mother dies
>he notices a woman nearby crying
>has compassion for her and decides to make sure she's taken care of in her retirement years
>this is followed by him noticing this other guy

The shit he did to this guy, though.

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>>90559483
Probably because he's funny, I guess. I always liked Riddler and Scarecrow more, and Penguin in more recent years.

Still makes me laugh, though.

>>90559467
Given the sort of people who delight in going around insulting people around here, I would think completely ruining their lives would be the only thing that would get to them.

All this shit makes me respect The Penguin a lot more. I mean, somehow he manages to get away with ruining the lives of anyone who makes some petty affront against him, and Batman never stops it from happening because it's all so subtle and only Penguin himself would know who the target is and why.

>>90559580
What did he do?

>>90558425
He's rich with great influence in the biggest city on the planet,
Clever in able to come up with master plans to always come out on top,
And ruthless willing to do what is needed to fight.

>>90559686
>put two kilos of cocaine in his car
>had his car destroyed after the police found it
>has the police waiting at his apartment for him
>runs his wife over with a car
>causes a gas leak in his house
>has his aunt and uncle deported
>has his neighbors killed by his exploding water heater
>damages his son's liver
>moves his son from spot #4 on the donor list to #217

Midway through being told all of this, the guy throws up and collapses on the ground.

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>>90559717

Jesus Christ.

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>>90559717

>>90559717

You know what I find most amusing?

I doubt the Penguin planned any of this personally. He delegates too much. He might have made some requests or suggestions, but he probably left the bulk of that up for someone else to plan and enact on his behalf, as long as he got the assurance that it would be done and the reports when ti was finished.

The only logical explanation is that the Penguin employs one or more "professional life ruiner" people on his staff. Some consultant whose job it is to meticulously study someone and come up with a detailed plan to destroy everything they love as totally, and cost effectively, as possible.

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>>90560204
so he has a cabal of vindictive ex-wives for hire at his disposal?
how horrifying.

>>90559580
>Please ask her to my office
>Have him brought, as well

I enjoy subtleties like this.

>>90560383
It's good word usage for sure, not just how he asks his henchmen to handle it, but also the way he offers her to come to his office while demanding the latter be brought to him regardless.

>>90560383
Agreed.

>>90560204
I don't think it would be that specialised, that sort of work seems right in the wheelhouse of the private investigators, hitmen, lawyers, goons, and corrupted officials that would already be on his payroll.

>>90559476
[AROUND THE WORLD]

>>90560204
Penguin prolly has dirt on everyone.
If you step into his casino you prolly give away half your personal information by not paying attention.

Penguin did his time as a freak, that's why he gets respect as a boss

>>90559483

Back in the day, Joker and Penguin were the "big two" Batman villains. I remember them always appearing together in Scooby Doo crossovers and the like

>>90559717

What did that guy even fucking do?

>>90559483
I think Penguin was always the 2nd most popular Batman villain after The Joker.
And The Joker had a sizeable headstart because of being the first supervillain in Batman's Rogues Gallery. And it took The Penguin a while to develop his own identity outside of just being a James Bond villain with a penguin motif.
And there is still this idiotic "dude he's just a fat guy how can he be an enemy to Batman" mentality that people like OP share, and it used to be the biggest problem with selling The Penguin, which The Joker doesn't have.

>>90558425


The same reason Mike Tyson wasnt the president of the united states and Bruce Lee didnt lead the jewish banks. Not everything is about power level you retarded kid.

>>90559485
>batman is a regular guy

He hasnt been a regular guy since the 40's

>>90566372
Chewed gum and was callous about Penguin's dead mother.

>>90559476
[ALL THE KINGS MEN]

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>>90559693
So are you saying Penguin always has the Master Plan?

>>90558425
No one man should have all that power.

>>90566297
You know, I sort of missed when the Joker and Penguin use to team up against Batman. They seem to have a certain appeal to it and it would be a blast to see a modern take on it. Besides Death of the Family.

>>90566530
Doesn't Penguin know how to hold his ground at a fight using judo or something like that? Wish they expanded on that.

>>90559717
I want the pages of this now.

How the hell is Batman supposed to be scary when they are psychos like that in the same fucking city?

>>90558490
He did beat the shit out of a lot of people.

>>90558614
If he's playing the system, that's lawful evil.

>>90558425
>>90558614
>>90559458
>>90559467
It would be really funny if none of this actually happened and his henchmen were just humoring him because he has the cash.

>>90558922
There's a Penguin: Pain and Prejudice trade that collects this and another mini and both are fairly solid stories about him

>>90558963
The killer croc story always get me

>>90559476
Underworld

>>90568582
There would still be something unsettling about reporting to some rich mob boss about how you totally did ruin some random dude's life, while he's practically creaming himself hearing you talk about the increasingly cruel ways you supposedly did it.

>>90559476
Obviously it's Baba Yetu.

>>90568668
>"And then we posted his browser history to Facebook and used his credit card information to buy $6000 worth of CP."

>>90568668
That is what the water cooler is for.
>Didya hear what the Penguin asked for?

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>>90568255

That was just in The Batman, I think.

>>90568255
I have the opposite opinion. I hate how comics have to make it so every villain is capable of taking on the hero hand-to-hand; it often doesn't make any sense and removes any chance of having an interestingly asymmetrical conflict.

>>90568622
Damn. I'm missing Killer Croc and Riddler from that series.

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>>90558425

How fuck can anyone justify the "power" of this character?

He is just a regular guy

>>90559595
What the hell was he unsatisfied with The Trashman's performance in the ring?

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>>90559717
>>damages his son's liver
>moves his son from spot #4 on the donor list to #217

My sides. That's literally DEVILISH-tier.

>>90568958
Mna Riddler story was something different seen all the villians visit him in his home just to see how's he doing and poor Croc people are the real monsters

>>90558425
>How fuck can anyone justify the "power" of this character?
>He is just a regular guy
So was Al Capone, anon.

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>>90558468
fpbp.

>>90560381
underrated

>>90559717
Jesus Christ why would anyone disrespect the penguin? they had it coming

>>90559686
your mother never taught you any manners did she, savage?

>>90568196


I still say Penguin should have is 'one bad day' have enjoy a peek into madness and try his hands on being a gentleman thief like a fat Arsene Lupin. All the while he keeps his front as a legitimate businessman.

>>90572457
I meant what did Penguin do the guy, not why he deserved it.

>>90558425
He's a crime boss.

>>90558425
He has a fine Roman nose.

>>90570641
Just started binging through some Joker's Asylum, and holy shot they're all good so far. Who else got the good end for Two Face?

>>90573855
Just reread it. Good end!

>>90558425
>How fuck can anyone justify

Stop, invisible son.

>>90558469
you got a purty mouth

>>90558468
The power to manipulate people is the greatest power of all. This is why superhero crap is full of monsters and heroes who can single-handedly defeat these legions. It's stupidity that childlike minds can grasp or have fantasies about. Few know the trick to manipulating people, so it never crosses their minds as story.

And the ability to manipulate people is basically the ability to lie well, which is to say not care about what others think. Recent studies show the quiet introverted types care wayyyy too much about what others think while the politicians don't give a rat's ass and just lie looking into your eyes from an inch away.

>>90573855
I've read two-face's 5 times ... Results have varied

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>>90558425
so is this guy

>>90558468
FPBP

Penguin's three main "powers":

1. He's an excellent criminal mastermind/mob boss in that he knows how to plan and carry out crimes, how to effectively run an almost entirely untouchable crime syndicate/one that is constantly seen as "the lesser evil" compared to other crime families, and treats his men well enough to ensure their undying loyalty.

2. Penguin has +10 charisma, to the point that even Batman begrudgingly respects him

3. Penguin is the only A-List Batman villain that is not 100% incurably insane. Even Bane is prone to roid rage control issues. But Oswald never loses his grip on his sanity.

>>90576202
>Oswald never loses his grip on his sanity
Well he is not insane (or at least most incarnations aren't) but he's not that stable either. He is ruthless and brutal and sometimes he flies off the handle. But he's not actually mentally ill, he's just got a terrible personality, to put it lightly.

>>90559458
>>90559467
Can someone give me context for these two panels? What did this guy do to warrant Penguin doing this shit to him and everyone he cared about/knew?

>>90558425
He has the most dangerous "power" of all

A brain

>>90576373
He bumped into The Penguin at a party and started calling him a fatass before he realized who it was.
He started apologizing but of course it wasn't enough.

>>90576373
Probably nothing honestly, that's kind of the point of the Penguin, he's an ungodly petty crimelord who will utterly destroy you and everything around you for the most trivial bullshit.

>>90568473
Batman doesn't kill people

at least... they don't die.

Don't compare BTAS Batman with gritty noir Batman.

>>90566530
Riddler was more popular in Batman '66- in fact he was arguably more popular than Joker in that show. But recent adaptations have ignored Riddler so he's kinda fallen off the map.

>>90568835
I really liked The Batman's Penguin.

>>90559567
Needles, just ask Easy-E...oh wait.

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Do you guys have any favorite other media takes on Penguin?

Has Bruce Wayne ever clashed against Penguin directly over business or city interests? I find it very hard for Wayne's corporate entities to not skirt with something that Oswald'a organization would have ties to. Remember organized crime is in unions and construction for a reason. And Gotham is too small a place for Wayne AND Cobblepot to not butt heads.

The more I look at Penguin, the more I see him as those guys who never forgive a slight. They carefully shelve it away in their memory and focus on the task at hand. But when the time is right, BAM! they strike without their victim expecting it. They might have forgotten him, but he didn't forget them.

He's basically Kingpin with autism. At least Fisk knows how to put a good public face.

>>90579354
I liked his design in the earlier seasons of Batman:TAS. Just enough flair that you could tell he was a character but not over the top.

I think his more ugly/monstrous designs work better when the stories are a little more grounded and dirty, having the Penguin echo the city of Gotham itself- powerful, ugly, corrupted and mean.

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>>90568770
Winner winner, chicken dinner.

>>90558614
This was a really good mini

Why does Penguin get shit for just being a Penguin themed guy with no powers when Joker is just a Clown themed guy with no powers?

>>90579354
Who is last column, fourth down?

Man, this thread makes me wish for a comic where the Penguin targets Bruce Wayne for some reason, unaware that he's the Batman.

>>90568255
I don't like that idea, because it takes away from Cobblepot's Hook of being a top tier criminal and businessman. I can seeing him being tough in a fight due to his demeanor and ruthless nature, but besides that he should be a puppeteer first and foremost.

In a world with mega threats like Bane and loons like Joker, it's neat having that one guy who is strictly the financial aspect of crime.

>>90581159
The Batman cartoon had Penguin express hatred for Bruce because he was mad jelly for being rich and handsome.

The fact that they both came from Gotham's oldest families means there had to be a Wayne-Cobblepot interaction in business or social circles like Black Mask's.

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>>90558425
Hmmm...

>>90575474
What if you're both a desperate introvert and a compulsive liar though

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I'd love to see one of these stories where Penguin just fucks with a guy...only to end up miscalculating and push the guy into going full Punisher rather than killing himself.
He destroys everything he holds dear over something petty and suddenly someone starts firebombing his businesses, killing his goons with a sledge hammer and is working his way through the line of people that were involved with the plan and everyone they care about in the most horrible ways, beelining towards the Penguin himself one mutilated corpse at a time.

And onto this scene comes Batman, no side is right, the guy is a vigilante just like him and Penguin did the god damned deed so he kind of deserves it, but goon #25s aging mother who was duct taped to her own ancient boiler and then it was turned up to full so her skin cooked off because he bought the gas that helped burn down the guys home certainly doesn't.

Could be fun.

>>90581319
Forever alone.

Isn't the Joker just a regular guy as well? The only thing the Joker has over the penguin is the costume/makeup and the fact that he's not a fat fuck.

>>90577957
Really a shame, in my opinion he's a perfect foil to bats, putting riddles against a detective and what not.

>>90582196
He was top tier when he was a private investigator imho.

>>90579548
>At least Fisk knows how to put a good public face.
I like that about penguin, tho, at least in the incarnations where he's deformed or ugly. Makes sense for him to not give too much of a shit about the public opinion if he was pushed around his entire life.

>>90559476
[CULT OF PERSONALITY]

>>90579548
Wasn't that what Bridges of Gotham storyline was about?