>This is what life looks like, people who love each other,

Watching Laura's rant in the latinamerican dub was a pretty great.

>Te estas petateando
Topo Keko

>>90530488
And then X-24 murdered that nice family. Thanks, Charles.

>>90530729
Wait. They dubbed over the kid actor who could speak Spanish?

>>90530753
Of course they did, and they turned her into a full chola from Tepito.

>>90530831
It was neat hearing her speak Cholo, she's Canadian-Mexican (In the movie, at least) after all.

It would've been weird as fuck hearing her with Castillian accent.
>logan tío esstoy flipando con mi thapato
>Spaniards

Professor X is totally foreshadowing in his whole role
>telling that they still had the time
>telling his last confession
>something about him not wanting to take the medicine

I forget some other but there are actually many in the movie.

>>90530488
Holy shit the action was so goddamn good

>>90530729
What's she saying when she's ranting in the car?

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>>90531367
>Spic

>>90530488
What was the message in this movie? To chill out and have a senpai? But all the problems were solved with extreme violence...

In many ways I enjoyed it but it also felt like a series of dark and sad things strung together just to evoke a reaction. Kind of like playing Hurt in the trailer. Sort of cheap.

>>90530488
Weren't some spoilerfags saying that this was supposed to be the final scene of the Logan movie a couple of weeks before the film's release?

>>90531712
>But all the problems were solved with extreme violence...

Nigga they literally watch Shane in the movie, the movie even ends with a recitation of the final speech from that movie. Do you really not understand what they're trying to say?

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>>90531712
If I had to make a correlation, it would be either to the movie "Live By Night" or Niko Bellic's arc in GTA IV:

More or less, its a group of people, criminals, a family of sorts, looking for a shelter where to prosper and live out their days in peace. Life, as always, has another plan for them. They can never escape the violence, and as if a Greek tragedy, their lifes will never be the same. Hunted by the sins of their past. Always outlaws, always being persecuted.

Thats why I find it a great western, as those are the themes of those kind of films. There's only redemption in death.

Oldboy could also be a parallel in the way the events unfold.

>>90531712
It's a character study you dense faggot

>>90531880
Don't forget that a classic western theme is that of "violent men are necessary to create the foundation for a peaceful society in a violent world, but once that foundation is in place, they - as part of the old order - must perish with it".

It was the point of Shane and it was the point of Logan. Logan was necessary for the kids to get to Canada, but he couldn't go with them.

Post your favourite Logan scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc

>>90532247
>>90531880
I see, there is something to that, huh. Admittedly I've never seen Shane and some asshole was on his phone during that part of the movie so I kind of missed it.

Does anyone else feel like the whole "Wolverine won't pop his claws because he accidentally killed the X-Men" arc from the comic would have made that arc far more satisfying though?

Making it all the fault of Charles seemed kind of like a cop out and an excuse to take advantage of the R rating for more claw violence. I actually got kind of bored of the headstabs by the end, would have been cooler if he'd been holding back for most of the movie and then we get to see the real gore.

>>90530488
The way Patrick Stewart said it makes me cry

>>90531880
Needs more Loss

>>90531712
Corn Syrup is bad
Science is bad
Illegal Immigration is good

>>90531712
>What was the message in this movie?
>every movie's themes can be succintly summarized in a single "message"
See /tv/ this is why you're a joke

>>90530729
>Using "mexicanisms" in dubs

Trully disgusting this is why Pokemon and Digimon Tamers went to fucking shit

>>90532519
No way. It makes no sense for Logan to be the way he is if he's the one who was directly responsible for killing the X-men. He'd have blown his brains out immediately. Also, who would have forced him to do it?

Made a lot more sense for it to be Charles.

In the movie, Logan is succumbing to the weight of his past. Being the killer of the X-men would be gratuitous.

>>90532527
That's OK. Everythink Patrick Stewart did in this movie made me cry.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWDDVuxFboI
The original X-Men movies were fucking kino.

>>90532570
exactly

>>90532527
>>90532615
>Logan felt it
>for like a few seconds before he died from getting impaled on a tree

Thanks, Xavier.

I went to the bathroom when they were reaching Vegas, but there wasn't a Stan Lee cameo, was there? Just making sure cause it would have ruined the immersion.

>>90532763
No Stan Lee and no post-credit scene, thankfully.

>tfw Xavier probably died thinking that Logan finally snapped, and that he died with fear and broken trust still pulsing through his head

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>>90531712
>What was the message in this movie


Lil brad still needs a movie with a lesson in it, so he can project it in his everydays life, which shouldnt even considered as "life".

>>90532812
Nah. His last words were of smiling optimism that they'd manage to get the boat and sail away:

"The Sunseeker!"

>>90532812
Nah, he saw the real Logan before he died.
But he still died fully knowing that he hurt and killed many people with degenerative desease psychic episodes.

>>90532869
I liked that. He was originally remorseless about nearly killing everyone in the casino to protect Laura, but later regretted doing so, recalling a similar incident where there were actual fatalities.

Still, would've liked to have had a clip that showed him actually killing everyone in the X-Mansion though.

>>90532907
He said he was sorry about doing that in the casino...

>>90532819
/pol/ BJs.

>>90532907
>>90532926
I'm thinking back in casino he was being senile and not understanding the full implications of what has happened and what could happen.

>>90532519
Well, personally I believe that the "Charles exterminated the X-Men" gives it a harder foundation. Makes it a harder tragedy. Lets rewind to the metaphor of Charles being a kind of father to Logan, and granpa to X-23:

It is horrible for brothers to massacre eachother, but Logan already killed his bloodkind, Sabretooth. I find it savage that a father, the figure Charles imposes over the school and the x-men, kills his closest kind. His own kind, his people. Seeing him devolve into a fragile old man, having a brain with the destruction capacity of an atomic bomb, its far much more tragic, if you ask me.

Also, if Logan had killed the X-Men, he would have gone into solitude. Thats how it unfolded in the Graphic Novel, and it wouldn't have worked with this world, much less fucked than the one Miller wrote.


I still want a goddamn proper explanation.

>>90531865

I didnt really watch that movie

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>"So this is how it feels like?"

>>90533251
>It wasn't me
;_;

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>>90533251
>"Daddy"

I still can't get over the fact that this is part of the same series as Wolverine: Origins (and The Wolverine, for that matter).

Some day I'll have to watch all three back-to-back.

>>90533344

i'm kinda glad i never saw origins. this is rare case where every next movie is better than previous one.

>>90530488
Life is the biggest meme ever invented.

>>90532988
He had a seizure in the casino
When he has a seizure this is what happens

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tr6dukTeTI

this is fun.


also, i have an urge to replay this game. for like 4th time.

>>90533344
Is this the first trilogy where each movie is better than the last one?

>>90533924
Raimi Spiderman

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Youre just waiting for me to die...

>>90533961

dude, one word: venom

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>our boat!
>it's the sunseeker.

>>90534027
;____; stop

>>90533344
Why stop at just the three Wolverine movies? In preparation for Logan I marathoned all of the previous X-Men movies. Made a pretty big impact seeing the evolution of Hugh's performance from beginning to end.

>>90533924
You might argue something like Toy Story or LOTR. But I can't think of any other trilogy where it's this unanimous.

>>90533198
They probably died of asphyxiation. Caliban says he couldn't breathe the first time we see Chuck have a seizure.

>>90531712
"Life's a bitch and then you die" is what jumped out at me

>>90533924
Captain America trilogy t b h

>>90534261
>>90533924
I don't really consider the Wolverine movies to be a trilogy. Yes, they are three movies that focus on one character, but damn near all of the X-Men movies aside from First Class and Apocalypse focus mainly on him.

>>90530753

>And then X-24 murdered that nice family. Thanks, Charles.

Yeah, that was a dick move.

>>90534438
>Captain America trilogy
>Civil War
>Good

>>90533924
Not hard when you start that low.

>>90534464
They were probably doomed anyways, like that store clerk.

>>90534261
Nah, Toy Story 1 is usually considered better than 2, and many think of 3 as a retread of most of the same concepts and events of 2, just done better.

LOTR, I'm not sure what the popular opinion is currently. Over the years I've heard each of the movies called the best and the worst.

With Wolverine it's simple, Origins was atrocious, The Wolverine was serviceable, Logan was good.

>>90534476
Oh is it still too soon to say Civil War was good? Guess I'd better wait a couple more years, my b.

>>90534501

Reavers had no reason to kill the clerk.

How many years has Logan had adamantium inside him? Laura probably won't live a ridiculously long life, and she'll forever be a womanlet.

>>90534530
I'm not the other guy, but I'd say it's still debatable which is better, WS or CW.

I think CW had a lot of great moments, some of the best in the MCU, and handled the ideological conflict as well as the characters' feelings reasonably well. It's highs are higher, its lows are lower, but WS is overall tighter and more consistent in terms of quality.

>>90534687
that's actually a problem, as she continues to grow, what'll happen with her skeleton? Will she just stop getting taller? Will she become deformed? Will her organs continue growing and get crushed inside her ribcage?

>>90534687
She has a normal skeleton. Hey body isn't nearly as poisoned as his was.

>>90533843
I know. I mean, the part where he apologized to the casino clients. He realized he did something bad, but he didn't know the full extent of it because he didn't remember that he killed people with his seizures until the farmhouse.

>>90534771
Did they say the only adamantium she had was her claws?

>>90534768

weren't only her claws covered with adamantium, not entire skeleton?

>>90534809
>>90534771
>>90534800
I didn't catch that, sorry. All's well then.

I hate to say it, but everytime that fat black kid showed up during the finale, I just started laughing. Like, we're watching this horrible situation with kids running away from being goons, but when they gave us a 20 sec shot of the fat kid stumbling away, I just lost it. And then when Logan got fatally wounded and we saw all the kids, the fucking fat black kid is just front and center and took me completely out of it because of how goofy he looked.

>>90534809
Yea they extracted them coated and reinserted them.

>>90530488
This hurt worse because i hardly have any family

>X-Men toys and comics exist in this world
This bothers me way more than it should have.

>>90533226
They were basically saying that the old ways are dead, they killed Logan, or "Wolverine" because he was a relic. No more X-Men movies, its dead.

>>90534476
Civil war was fine except for the fact that they had to shoehorn in the entire plot of the event into 2 hours. If Civil war was a 2 part movie, or if they alluded to it more directly in a previous Avengers it would have been really great.

>they give the black kid lightning powers

Anybody else smile? I don't even know if they do it on purpose at this point.

>>90535570
so when thes kids will be allowed to see the movie they starred in?

>>90531631
I don't know if its the same dialogue, but in the latinamerican she says something like:
>How do you want me to talk to you if you are always bullying me, looking down on me and ignoring me "dude"

And some stuff said in spanglish and all loaded with very street mexi-speak.

>>90532573
She is canon mexi from CDMX, stop being irrelevant so movies pander to you and get a hero who speaks voceo and talks about choripanes, llamas or Chavez.

>>90534890
Given this is the post-"Days of Future Past" timeline, the X-Men became public figures and saved the world twice.

>>90535647
Judging by the number of children in my showing? Already.

>>90536223
How many parents left with their kids?

I never watched Apocalypse, and forgot about what happened in days of future past. What happened to all the other mutants?

why did mel gibson played logan in this movie?

>>90536555

It's explained in Deadpool.

>>90536555
The scientist guy in Logan says he was responsible for the extinction.

I did not understand the movie(mostly because cam rip with shit sound), why did Logan die?

>>90537446
Adamantium poisoning fucked with his healing factor.

By the end he barely had any, and the drug he got from Rictor only got him so far.

It was a nice farewell for Wolverine and Charles, but what about the rest of them? What about our boi Scott Summers?

The movie in general was pretty hit and miss. There were superb moments throughout, but dotted between moments that were stupid.

>"We need a foil for Wolverine to fight against"
>"How about Sabertooth?"
>"Like Wolverine, but more savage"
>"How about Sabertooth?"
>"Maybe younger? Or someone that he'll have a conflict/emotional reaction to fighting?"
>"How about Sabertooth?"
>Got it, evil Wolverine clone.

>>90537863
It makes no sense for Sabertooth to be working with Transigen...

>>90537863
>What about our boi Scott Summers?
Literally no one outside of /co/ has ever or will ever give a fuck about him.

>>90537894

I thought they were an offshoot/evolution of Weapon X.

Thats what I thought the whole Alkali-Transigen was, Alkali Lake.

>>90537964
the scientist even said he was the son of the Weapon X scientist.

It would have made perfect sense to have Creed there. Hell, they could have used Daken instead of literally nega-Logan.

So since the Logan in Logan is Original Timeline Logan inside the body of the Logan that existed up to that point in New Timeline, does he still have the Heart Parasite from The Wolverine?

Is that what was weakening him and he didn't notice?

>>90538043

Right?! Having it be some feral, wigged out, tested on Sabertooth, would have been much better than young, evil, clone, Wolverine.

>Beware the light

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>>90533961

>>90538173

It seems like the "timeline" is out of the window in this movie, they reference the Statue of the Liberty and he has an Adamantium bullet. So it takes bits of what it wants, and the film makers just think "fuck it, it's old Wolverine.

Similar to when he loses his Adamantium claws and goes bone claw in The Wolverine, and then has metal claws in DoFP.

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It's going to be funny watching the main X-Men movies still be put out full steam ahead, knowing the ultimate end has been shown in this one.

It's also going to make watching the OG films fucking depressing.

X-Men 2 still the best tho

>>90537863

>Remove the Albino entirely.
>Instead Logan has to look after not only Xavier but also Sabertooth who is full feral now.
>Strained relationship as Logan tries to hold it together, find common-ground.
>Attacks Logan before the Transigen assault.
>Logan has to leave Sabertooth behind when it happens. Sabertooth gets captured.
>They use Sabertooth to track Logan and the clone fights are replaced by Sabertooth.
>Brother to brother MGS4 fight at the end with Sabertooth, who isn't suffering from the poisoning/aging, impales Logan on the log.
>Then he gets his head blown off.

Might have worked, but I'm sure someone else can think of a much better way to have put him in.

>>90538444
Next is the New Mutants trilogy, and I think theu're moving away from the main X Men team for a while.

>Caliban complaining about having to remain below deck on the boat because sun

Does he not realize night exists? Or that without Wolverine needing to go to work every day, that they can take 12-hour day/night shifts and he can do the latter?

>>90538180
Nope.

>>90538542

Just having Charles and Logan on their own, then having Transigen keep making references to something able to track him, or a tracker, would make the reveal of Sabertooth a shock/reveal to both the audience and Wolverine.

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>when the black dad tried to shoot logan

>>90538614
He was alluding to the fact Logan didn't really plan to bring him along.

lrn2subtlety

>>90538173
How can so many people who've watched the movie still not get this. Logan the movie exists in a timeline where everything seems to have happened, but *only* a quarter of it was true. Even then, it didn't happen like it was depicted. That means the comic books Laura reads and the movies we saw all have hints of the truth in them but in Logan's world, people died and none of it was glamorous.

The one thing I didn't like

The conspicuous as fuck product placement for Harrah's. If it'd just been some rando fancy hotel (why did it need to be so upscale at all though?), it'd have been fine but it just seemed so out of place to see HARRAH'S everywhere.

>>90538680
I just don't get what fucked his healing factor. Adamantium Poisoning? Old age? It's definitely not a lack of willpower.

>>90538726
Corn syrup+adamantium poisoning

>>90538638
This would work really well if they'd maintained Sabertooth in the series. It would probably be awkward to just have him appear halfway through because I'm sure most people have already forgotten Origins or that he was even in the first X-Men (albeit as just a mute, lame henchman).

>>90538726
Adamantium was retarding his healing factor so he began to age/get sick.

>>90538726
Yes, adamantium poisoning. Logan outright says it in the latter part of the movie.

>>90538726

I immediately thought of Ruins when he mentioned the thing killing him.

>>90538726
>Adamantium Poisoning? Old age?
That and that plus some virus the big bad released that was affecting mutants

>>90532799
Yeah there was it was...
OH no, I'm thinking of the Deadpool Trailer before the movie. It had a bunch of Logan posters in it though.

>>90538726
He outright says it's adamantium poisoning in the film.

>>90538763

Or maybe have a flashback showing the "Westchester incident" and include Sabertooth in that somehow.

Maybe the team get back from a mission, w/ captured Sabertooth/other brotherhood members. Audience thinks "Oh cute, cameo's from the old cast". Charles fucks up, X-Men die. Audience is reminded about Sabertooth, enough to make his return make sense.

>>90538703
Never noticed that. I've never seen that brand, so to me it read as some random hotel.

>>90538703
wtf is Harrah's?

Did anyone else see Origins Deadpool at the lab?

>>90538965
parody of Disney company

What kinda iffed me about the movie was when Logan tried to drive through his fence with his limo but couldn't. The CGI limo and fence was pretty obvious and took me out of the movie for a second.

what's the name of the girl who showed her tiddies

Kinda bummed that Charles' seizures were just him spazzing out. Would have been cool if it was like Mysterio fucking with Logans head in Old Man Logan, and then have him be the one that killed the X-Men

I listened to this on a loop on the way home after the movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi-S9lrnLZ8

>>90538965

It's a major chain of casinos/hotels.

As someone who formerly lived in El Paso, I had to chuckle at how nice/normal/upscale(???) they made it look in the movie. It looks bad enough as is right now; there's no way it would have anything near as nice in a borderline-dystopian future on the brink of collapse.

Why can't movies ever get Texas right desu

>>90539576
Ackshually, El Paso doesn't look too bad right now depending on the area. Downtown is still a shithole but the Northeast and Westside are pretty nice desu

t. some fag in el paso right now

>>90539779

Oh shit, really? Huh. It's been a while since I was there, to be fair.

I really wish the use of Johnny Cash's 'Hurt' hasn't become borderline cliche because it really fits this one hardcore.

>>90539341
>how about we take away the drama of Charles Xavier having to deal with a neurodegenerative disease and replace it with a villain messing with his head
Hello Disney

>>90534371
i think its more "lifes a bitch and then you live or else whats the point because you are going to die anyway"

>>90531712
>But all the problems were solved with extreme violence...
But that extreme violence is why Logan can never have a family. He knows it for a moment, and then he dies.

It's not a movie with an ideal answer or message. Violence is sometimes necessary to protect the good things in the world, but it ultimately destroys you as a person no matter whether you used it for good or ill. That is one of the tragedies of reality. The speech from Shane echoes that; 'There's no living with a killing. There's no going back from it. Right or wrong, it's a brand, a brand that sticks'. That's the closest thing the film has to a message; engaging in violence scars your soul.

>>90530488
I haven't seen the movie yet, but OP's pic made me think this was a Last of Us thread for some reason.

>>90538365
>It seems like the "timeline" is out of the window in this movie

It's out the window in all of these fucking movies. FOX can't keep their continuity straight for shit, this isn't really new.

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>>90538365
>>90542846
I think this guy's rundown makes the most sense to me (or the least nonsense).

https://youtu.be/8YGHDTIUt0s

>>90537863
My ending for the movie would have been, with the Sabertooth changes:

>"Daddy" scene happens, but he rushes the kids away.
>Sabertooth is visually asking for a mercy kill
>Wolverine kills him in the way of the dog from "I Am Legend" while bleeding out himself
>He's back in the X-Mansion, everyone is there giving him smirks and nods
>Jean smiling as she leads him, hand on the shoulder, past Colossus giving a thumbs up
>Professor at the end, still in his wheelchair, turns around.
>Sun shines through the window and the screen fades to white
>Logan smiles as he watches the kids being picked up by someone who may or may not be and old Moira McTaggart
>Dies
>'This is what it feels like...'

Fuck, this thread makes me so happy /co/ wasn't allowed to rewrite the movie.

>>90545213
Same
>>90543906
Trash. The actual movie was amazing

>>90534809
that's how it is in the comics and it's kinda implied in the movie as the only surgery we see is with the claws

>>90536507
I saw at least a dozen kids who had to be 10 or younger at my showing and not one left

Did your audience laugh when Logan trashed the truck?

>>90545213
That's the case almost any time /co/ tries to rewrite a film.

>>90539576
I live in North Dakota and felt kinda that way during the parts that supposedly took place here

>>90545515
>Did your audience laugh when Logan trashed the truck?
Yes, because it's possible to feel multiple things within the same scene, and especially when the camerawork and editing are done to make a funny moment after a sad scene.

>>90545515
Yes but at least they didn't clap at anything.

>>90530729
she didn't speak English in the dub?

>>90545608
As a Canadian, it's pretty funny to think that those shots from what look to be the Rockies are supposed to somehow be by the Saskatchewan/Manitoba/North Dakota border.

>>90534476
I liked Civil War more than Winter Soldier but it was definitely flawed. It should have just been about Cap/Bucky/Tony/T'challa, including the Avengers minus Hulk & Thor was a mistake. They feel shoehorned in and don't really have much of a purpose at all, except for maybe Scarlett Witch. Winter Soldier is great for the first 2/3 but once it turns into a CGI shitfest at the end I tune out.

But then again I think I'm the only person on this board that likes Iron Man 3 a lot. Like it's in my top 5 MCU films while everyone else has it in their bottom 5. But that might be because I like Shane Black a lot and didn't care at all about the whole Mandarin twist since I never cared for that character in the comics

>>90534261
LOTR I kinda consider one long as fuck film broken into 3 long as fuck parts, so I don't think of it as 1, 2, 3. If I had to rank them I'd say 1>3>2, but that order might be different tomorrow, or even in an hour. They're all pretty consistent in terms of quality, though I understand why people like Fellowship the best.

Are there any other trilogies that stay consistently great from start to finish? And not trilogies like Indiana Jones where each film is individual, I'm talking about ones like Star Wars or Spider-Man or whatever. I know the Original Trilogy would have been great if George didn't change the Wookiees to Ewoks in Return of the Jedi. The Making of Return of the Jedi book has transcripts of the story conferences between Lucas, Kasdan, and Marquand and it's almost heartbreaking to see Lucas tossing out these great ideas in favor of less interesting ones. I like Return of the Jedi but it's nowhere near the level of A New Hope/Empire.

Also that quote where he wanted Luke to put on Vader's helmet at the end and say "Now I am Darth Vader" is completely different when read in the context of the conference. When people found out about it they treated it as one of Lucas's terrible ideas but if you read it with context you can tell its clearly a joke.

>>90538542
Only thing I would have changed about the ending is have Laura get X-24's attention by saying "hey, bub!" or something like that before shooting him. Kinda miffed that there wasn't a single "bub" in the film, or even a cigar. Nitpicks, though.

Pierce's death was kinda anticlimactic too, especially considering that so many things in the film were set up early on for a satisfying pay off (adamantium bullet, Charles's speech about family, etc) but his death was just kinda like "oh we need to kill this guy but Logan and Laura are busy with the other guy... fuck it just have the kids kill him". I'm surprised they didn't have the kids inject him with the serum to make him overdose and die painfully (didn't they mention a few minutes earlier that taking too much will kill you?)

>>90546345
They did include logan taking a cigar out of the store when grabbing Laura so there was a small nod

>>90545910
>I think I'm the only person on this board that likes Iron Man 3 a lot
I can say that I do, mostly for having Tony do cool shit without his suit.
The whole "I am Iron Man, but not really, but I am" thing is neato.

>>90546116
>Are there any other trilogies that stay consistently great from start to finish?
BTTF

>>90546345
>Only thing I would have changed about the ending is have Laura get X-24's attention by saying "hey, bub!" or something like that before shooting him
Only thing I would have changed is her only saying "daddy" once.
Her saying it a second time took me out of it a bit and seemed like they really wanted to hammer it in.

>>90546640
It's definitely the funniest of the MCU films without resorting to humor through quips ala Avengers/Guardians, and it's one of the few films in the series that just feels different structurally from other superhero movies. I hated Ant-Man a lot (granted I had low expectations after the Edgar Wright thing) but what pissed me off the most was how by the numbers it was. It felt like it was written by a computer program, just the most basic origin story they could have possibly written. I'll never understand how that movie was so well received.

>>90546674
Ehhhh Back to the Future Part 3 is a noticeable drop in quality. It's kinda like Return of the Jedi where it's jarringly straightforward as a follow up to a sequel that took a lot of risks tonally and just in terms of doing something different with the story.

Is the third act/third film in a trilogy just inherently doomed? I still can't think of any examples where it's as good as the first two, excluding LOTR.

And don't say Revenge of the Sith. I rewatched it a few weeks ago and I'm 99% sure people like it the best out of the prequels because it's an improvement from TPM and AotC, but on its own it still isn't a good movie. The last 5 minutes are a fucking joke, it feels like someone reminded Lucas of all the things he forgot to mention in the films so he was just like fuck it and stuck it all at the end. Death Star, Force Ghosts, Yoda going to Dagobah, it's actually kinda funny how absurd it is. The order 66 scene was good, though. I'll give him that.

>>90532564
>Illegal Immigration is good

More like "dump your problems on Canada"

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>>90533251

>>90546116
>Are there any other trilogies that stay consistently great from start to finish?
I'd argue Back to the Future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRININJJodM&ab_channel=OnePunchMan
song is gud af

Godamnit senpai why are last stand/redemption movies so fucking good?
>that beginning where Logan is old and tired and struggles against thugs
>those family moments
>that fucking ending where he finally gets to die
just fuck my heart up tbqhwu

>>90547024
>It's definitely the funniest of the MCU films without resorting to humor through quips ala Avengers/Guardians, and it's one of the few films in the series that just feels different structurally from other superhero movies
That's because it's not a superhero movie. It's Shane Black wanting to do Lethal Weapon, or Last Action Hero, or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang,... but he has to put Iron Man somewhere because Marvel is producing.
There's a reason why I fucking hate Iron Man 3: it doesn't give a shit about Iron Man, only about Tony Stark.

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>>90550084
>mfw he injects the serum and goes full berserker running through the woods to rescue the kids

kinda wish they didn't show that in the trailer, though. It didn't spoil it but it would have been so much cooler seeing it for the first time in the context of the scene

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>>90550336
>watching trailers

>>90550084
Because it exposes the humanity underneath the superhero

>>90545685
No mostly cholo-spanish and spanglish

>>90550329
Yeah I can see why you wouldn't like it, but I'd rather watch a good movie that has Iron Man in it than an Iron Man movie that's just okay. I don't care enough about the character outside of the films, and by the time Iron Man 3 came out two of his three previous appearances were in a bad film (Iron Man 2) and a meh one (Avengers).

The first Iron Man is the perfect blend of light and dark tone-wise. It's a shame that Marvel has found their tonal niche after The Avengers and stuck to it. I guess Winter Soldier was closer to the first Iron Man but then it reverted back to regular MCU stuff by the end. The fact that the highway fight takes place in the same film as 3 flying aircraft carriers crashing into buildings/a river while Cap/Falcon break the laws of physics established in the film left and right is mind-boggling. Civil War had the opposite problem where the airport fight was super cheesy but the final "battle" with Cap/Bucky and Iron Man was grounded and emotional.

Infinity War is gonna be ridiculous and I'm worried the Phase 4 films are going to avoid being grounded in order to 1-up Infinity War or at least not seem like a downgrade in terms of scale.

>tfw we will never get a simple Hawkeye movie where it's just him, his dog, and maybe Wanda doing something on a smaller scale
>tfw Hawkeye was supposed to be in Winter Soldier but they replaced him with Black Widow because she really added a lot to that film and was a lot better than having absolute banter between Cap, Hawkeye, and Falcon

>>90550381
Logan had good trailers, though. Didn't give away any the plot aside from Logan/Charles protecting X-23 Last of Us style.

Maybe I just missed it and was unaware going into it but X-24 being played by Hugh Jackman was a big surprise. Same with Richard Grant being in the film but that might be because I just like him as an actor and didn't know he was in it.

>>90550622
Yeah, trailers on their own can be great art in and of themselves, and Logan definitely had a few of those.

>>90552569

https://youtu.be/ny3hScFgCIQ

This trailer actually sold me on the movie in the first place.

>>90532405
Best scene was when he tagteamed ur mum with profx

>>90534853

This.

And also the scene where the kids killed Pierce you've just got a bunch of kids either holding out their hand or breathing really hard with CGI doing all the work.

>>90534464
Seriously, I know he's in a wheelchair, but even he should understand what ON THE RUN means.

I think Caliban was pretty unnecessary in the movie. Especially since after he bites it, clues fall into the Reavers' laps anyway.

Was there a strong thematic reason for his inclusion or was it a contract thing?

>>90555451
He has dementia... What do you expect?

>>90530488
>FUCK OFF, LOGAN!!!

>>90530488
I loved that they got Smallverine to wear cheerful clothes.

>>90555713
She'll be wearing her usual leather hooker clothes next movie

>>90555755
Bueno.jpg.

>>90538726
I mean, it makes sense, we don't know the properties of adamantium and for all we know it's reactive and basically puts wolverine through heavy metal poisoning and the source being indestructible doesn't help. Him getting older and his body not being able to keep up with the constant source of poison would probably just fuck him up faster as he approaches the slow down of his powers.

>>90539219
did they cgi the fat black kid running? Because he was running real weird and was real fast.

>>90539341
but that's what made it a bit more "human".
Even the most powerful mind suffers old age and the illnesses that affect it.

>>90537863
>What about our boi Scott Summers?

Being James Marsden is suffering, nothing new there.
>be perfect actor for Scott Summers
>repeatedly end up turned irrelevant tot eh story, in favor of more Logan

>>90546345

Pierce's death should have been more horrifying. The kids ganging up on him was fine, but he ought to have gone in more terrible fashion.

>>90542191
well, it's almost the same formula.
>Old guy who has been through a lot of shit
>in actuality needs some stability and anchor
>Young girl with little or no childhood who is being chased
>Young girl desires a father figure
>Old guy afraid or too hardened to want a daughter
>both work together

It's the same dynamics really.

>>90555849
We know that adamantium stops his healing factor.
And that's the exact problem Logan was having.

He wasn't being poisoned, he did that to himself with the drinking, fighting, and being well... Wolverine.

He was killing himself, the adamantium decay was merely stopping him from healing from it.

>>90534138
how did you feel when he was giving the short eulogy after he buried Charles?
I had to look away because all the previous x-men films came flooding back.

>>90555902
He barely did anything. He mostly just hung back

How did Fox managed to create best capeshit for last 5 years? MCU and DCEU looks like generic shit compared to Logan.

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>>90545910
I like the Mandarin twist, it's a really clever idea, but the movie blows its load there. Its bioshock syndrome: after the reveal, it's all down hill. Guy Pierce doesn't get to do much or make much of an impact and the bad guys' powers feel really inconsistent. Also unsatisfying how Tony blows up Adrian with the suit, a cool application and payoff, only for Pepper to actually finish him off right after. Feels like it should've been reversed.

I don't hate it, and I appreciate that it actually feels like a Shane Black film, but I'm kind of cold to it on the whole.

>>90545910

Mandarin twist is weird, because it's actually pretty fun one. Trouble is that the REAL bad guy is then utter shit, and Kingsley's fake-Mandarin was awesome until the reveal.

>>90555927
I liked that he took his time to find a river to bury Charles near, because that's as close as he could get to the boat dream.

>>90543906
Too cheesy. The one from the movie is much more contained and simple, much more heartbreaking.

>>90531712
>What was the message in this movie?
"Don't Be What They Made You"

>>90556467
Don't forget 'family, loved ones and slowing down, enjoying them'

>>90555481
>>90555541
>There was a special needs school

>>90555903
To be fair, that is a really great dynamic.

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>>90538330
>First Morlock featured in a film since X3

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>there's water and...uh...
>there's water and...uh...

fuck this scene man...

>>90557205
>inb4 autists butthurt about people laughing at the truck scene because they've never heard of tragicomedy.

I don't want this Laura to grow up.

Seriously though, those kids are fucked, there's still going to be people coming after them and Logan's not around to protect them anymore

This seems like a strange ending

>>90557569
I think it was implied they made it because the Reavers were all basically were wiped out by Logan.

>>90557569
The kids were saying there were people that could protect them across the border, and Pierce was yelling "don't let them cross the border!". Maybe there were some mutants that were still alive in canada and waiting for them.

>>90555477
>Was there a strong thematic reason for his inclusion or was it a contract thing?

Caliban is from The Tempest by motherfucking Shakespeare.

It's about an old wizard named Prospero marooned on an island with his granddaughter. Prospero has forsaken science for magic to get his revenge against his family who betrayed him. By the end he gives up the magic to be happy.

So it works a bit, Professor X having lost control of his "magic" and Laura being less of a moral compass.
Caliban hunted down other mutants and is now repentant.

It works.

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Yukio: A while ago. But it's not like I get a complete picture. More like looking through a keyhole. But I'm always right. All I can see is one part of a person's life... their death. And I saw yours.

Logan: So, what did you see?

Yukio: I see you on your back. There's blood everywhere. You're holding your own heart in your hand. It's not beating.
He dies with both his heart in his hand, with his daughter in the other

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>>90550008
I think this song works more than Hurt. The film really had this feeling of everything just getting worse and worse.

It's funny, but this film works so well by throwing away everything about the Hollywood cinematic universe tactic. With all other X-Men dead, there is no help coming. This film wasn't there for fans to get excited over their knowledge of the source material with winks or anything. Hell, having Xavier be the death of the X-Men is just really bleak end to everything before it.
Point being, I don't think any DC or Marvel film could reach a film like this because they are trying to keep having films lead into future films. If they made an Iron Man 4 where RDJ dies in it, it won't sting as much because it would be used to set up some future MCU film, his friends will still be around, and even if Tony fails, there are twenty more heroes to take over. With Logan, it felt like they went "This is it. Don't expect Gambit to show up."

>>90550336
I feel like trailers should omit the last 30 minutes of their films. That way, you don't know what the climax is.

>>90531712
>What was the message in this movie?
That Wolverine is ballin' as fuck?

>>90545910
I feel that Marvel Studios has established themselves as crowd pleasers that they had to include the full Civil War hero lineup. RDJ and Evans aren't guaranteed after Infinity Wars, and some people already complained that Civil War was too small in the film. Really think about it, people saw the airport fight and thought "This needs MORE characters"
It reminds me of something some youtuber said back when the first Avengers came out. They wanted the X-Men, FF, Spider-Man and all that to be in the MCU so that they can all fight Galactus in one epic film. I thought about it, and it's bullshit. Galactus fights don't matter if you have one character or hundreds of characters fighting him. The results will be the same. Everyone ineffectively hits him, and he's too large for it to be an interesting blow by blow fight. And this is kind of the flawed mentality of fans, they think more = better when more means less in terms of a movie. If they keep adding more characters and such to films, then the screen time for each character becomes less and less.

Which is why I think Logan works so damn well. It wasn't about adding more to the X-Verse. It wasn't about setting up X-23 for the X-Men, it wasn't some cop out "Oh, X-23 will travel back in time" bullshit. It was a grim and brutal tale of little hope. Logan worked because it wasn't winking to the fans over and over. There weren't any easter eggs in this film, there weren't any Stan Lee cameos, it was just a straight up film.

>>90557239
>the truck scene
the one where beats the trcuk with the shovel?

>>90534890
older comics were about cowboys, some about real people even, so it's not farfetched.

>>90534890
I thought it was a neat idea.

>>90559028
Yep.

>>90534890
Why not? They're real life superheros; Xavier's school probably made quite a lot of money striking a deal with the toy company that sells those.

This might be a weird thing to find cute, but the way Laura stared at Xavier almost in awe as he compared Laura to a lioness because of the toe claws was fucking adorable.

>>90557205
this scene fuck'd me up hard, brought back memories of me choking back words on my dad's funeral.

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>>90545910
The Mandarin twist is fucking great and anyone who doesn't enjoy seeing Sir Ben Kingsley having a fucking riot as Trevor has no soul.

I think I love it so much because you feel exactly what Tony is feeling in that situation.

>What the fuck?
>Is is this a joke? A ploy to get away?
>What the actual fuck is going on?

Unfortunately Guy Peirces Mandarin is never as menacing or fun to watch as Kingsley's fake-Mandarin. That's the problem.

Trevor is fucking great though.

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>>90557239
Autists often lack the capacity to feel empathy for others in the same way normal people do.

If anything, it's autistic to overlook the man clearly in anguish, who is hurting, who wants to get away from the situation but can't than to have the capability to empathise with Logan and feel bad for him.

Not that I'm arguing that the scene wasn't mildly comedic, I'm just saying that laughing at it is more autist like than not doing so.

>>90545910
>>90555974
>>90555998
>>90559735
This. Disliking the Mandarin twist just because it differs from the comics is dumb; it's a pretty ballsy move for a superhero film, all things considered.

The issue is that Killian is pretty dull as the actual villain.

They were originally going to have Rebecca Hall play the villain, which would have been way more interesting, but Isaac Perlmutter vetoed the idea because he didn't believe a female villain would sell well.

>>90559867
>It's autistic to be able to feel both sad and humoured at the same time.

No anon, you are the autist. You seem incapable of understanding that movies can portray events that in real life would be tragic in a way that makes them funny.

The scene was sad because of what it depicted, but funny because of the way it depicted it.

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>>90559967
I wasn't saying that the scene was devoid of humour. Try reading what I said again, but apply a little reading comprehension this time instead of playing the "no you're the autist" card.

>>90560158
You're the one who needs reading comprehension, anon.

>>90560158
An autist wouldn't be able to follow the emotion given by the editing. Only the "logical" emotion that tells him he's supposed to feel sad about Logan feeling sad.

>>90557239
Only ONE light chuckle happened in my theater when that scene came around.

Didn't give me the feeling it was funny either.

>>90559424

cool blog post. upvoted

I actually feel Logan is more grounded than TDK even though the former has superpowers.

Weird.

>>90559890
Killian didn't even have action figures.

>>90543612
>physically he's only 196 but emotionally he's actually 252

WRONG, at the end of DOFP he doesn't remember the new timeline

>>90531712

If Logan had a loving family he wouldn't have lived by violence and died by violence.

Of course this is Charles Xavier telling him this who trained his family to be a militia of child soldiers but there you go.

>>90560769
Irony

>>90546640
I'm a big fan of Shane Black, and if you look at it as one of his movies, it's great. It makes perfect sense, the humor, the twists, the kid, everything.

If you look at it as a Marvel movie, it kind of sticks out. I like that it deals with Tony's PTSD from almost dying in space, but in general it doesn't quite fit.

In short, I love it but I understand that people may not like it, or even understand what Black was going for.

>>90560751
Suspension of disbelief.
Logan makes more sense within the established universe, while TDK (even with its lack of superpowers) constantly throws a bunch of absolutely ridiculous situations into the viewers face.

>>90558800
agreed

>>90559424
Same for me with my grampa. It's a terrible situation to be in, and it hits hard in the movie.

>>90558800
Agreed, but that's probably what bothers me about the latter part of the movie. Everything is supposed to be getting worse, but suddenly there's all the kids alive and well. And they've got a cure, at least temporary, for Logan's illness.

It felt cheap, after all the suffering, to see a bunch of kids using powers on the reavers.

Also X-24 sucked.

>>90563365

how did one mexican nurse managed to save all those kids?

>>90563547
The other nurses were probably helping as well.

>>90530753
I know X-Men Origins is not canon but I was screaming in my head that Woverine should have known better than to listen to Charles and try and stick around for that long while they were being chased.

>>90563719
It's canon, at least everything before the DOFP timeline change, and even then, Logan should have all the memories, including both timelines.

>>90563547
Each nurse took a kid

>>90539341
Mysterio tricking Logan has always been bullshit tho.

How the fuck did he not perceive/smell/whatever that he was attacking the X-men? Mysterio has never EVER been that good and Logan has rarely ever been that clueless.

Xavier spazzing out made waaaay more sense and made the whole situation more powerful and human.

My biggest disappointment with Logan was the lack of MUH JEAN, especially coming off of DoFP's ending.

Still, X-Men, X2, TLS, The Wolverine, DoFP, to Logan is probably the best cape series we'll get. 2 "meh"s, 1 "eh", and 3 "yeh"s is pretty dang good.

>>90564244
>tfw no BUBs

>>90563365
Not all the kids made it

>>90564435

one of them jumped off the building.

>>90557114
Caliban was also in Apocalypse.

>>90560883
I figure that was more of a shock thing, since his consiousness with memories of the old timeline suddenly popped into that body. It seems reasonable to me to assume he eventually (probably fairly quickly) remembered the shit that had happened in the new timeline. After all, he had actually lived through it by that point.

Suddenly having two sets of memories in his head probably fucked with him more than having amnesia did.

>>90534561

He saw X-23 with her claws out. That's reason enough.

>>90565878
She didn't even have her claws out, did she?

>>90565944
>>90565944

I saw claws. I don't know what you saw.

>>90564199
Also the whole thing with Logan killing the X-Men is... he isn't actually physically capable of killing the X-Men. They have all sorts of ways to shut him down. Kitty could warp him through the floor, Iceman could freeze him, Storm could electrocute him until he stopped moving, Gambit could detonate his limbs, Jean could levitate him a meter in the air and spin him around until he puked... or was Jean not alive at that point in his timeline?

>>90555966
Because its not a cape movie, its a tragic drama involving comic book characters.

how did you feel when the father turned to logan and tried to shoot him before ded?

>>90565944
If I remember correctly, in the gas station she showed claws in the movie but did not in the trailer/clip.

>>90566972
At least three kinds of sad.

>>90566972
Most depressing part of the movie, to me.

>>90566972
I can understand him fully

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>>90530488

>that was more violent than I expected!

Some guy next to me in the theater who apparently didn't realize he went to see an R rated movie about a guy with knives in his hands.

>>90567679
Honestly can't wait for the video where they put those two scenes together

"Daddy"

>>90538173
The parasite got removed in that movie

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>>90567679
The director pretty much confirmed this was done on purpose.

>>90566972
Man didn't deserve that and I can't blame him for trying.

I'm probably going to sound like a retard here but did I miss something important about why they didn't just kill the kids? They were failures who were being euthanised when they got freed and since X-24 is the new thing I can't see why they were trying to keep them around. Only thing I can think of is tissue samples or some such, but they don't need to be alive for that.

Also, why did they not just use adamantium bullets to kill Logan? Not a big comic reader so there's probably a good explanation for this.

>>90572868
Probably just because it's so fucking rare. They don't have that much, and every bit they've got goes into experiments like Laura and X-24.

Also, neither Pierce nor Rice seemed to have killing Logan as their endgame, they just wanted the kids.

>>90573492
I figured it was something like that. Logan was such a thorn in their sides that it might've been worth it, though.

>>90572868
>failures who were being euthanised

I thought this too and was confused but thinking back the nurse says in the video that the one day they were rounding all the kids up to "put them to sleep" which I know can mean "to kill" but I think they were literally putting them to sleep, like coma/freezing them in case they needed them in the future.

Only way for it to make sense.

>>90572868
What was it Rice was saying to Caliban? Something about taking personal responsibility for eradicating mistakes he had made (the artificial mutants)?

>>90573664
That makes sense. Great movie but the general motive was really puzzling me.

>>90573716
Dead people are pretty heavily eradicated. The only one who's gonna survive a bullet is X-23 and getting everybody killed and failing your mission because you wanted to do it yourself seems like a bad plan - even if he wanted it initially, the fuckup at the family's household should really have given him pause for thought.

>>90534853
He remind me kinda to that fat kid from Hook (I think that's the name) with Robert Williams.

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>>90573951
You mean Thud Butt?

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>>90533344

Once the ~reveal came and was proven true, all I wanted was for her to genuinely call him "Daddy" at least once before the end and it came at the perfect time. I was already tearing up, but when she said it, cue the waterworks.

>>90574232
yes

>>90543906

I remember the first time I saw Titanic, too.

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>>90550336

>hearing that RRRRRRRRRAAAAGGGHHH from off screen

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>>90558379

why would you do this to me anon

>>90574773
Man, that was fucking excellent.

>>90574906

Jackman perfected that shit. I want it as a ringtone.

>>90574944
Right? It absolutely nailed the all-out last stand vibe they set up.

Tough question I was thinking about earlier today:

Do you think he loved her?

>>90575172
Yes. I think he finally realised it wasn't too late to care.

>>90535681

>How do you want me to talk to you if you are always bullying me, looking down on me and ignoring me "dude"
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGHGHG

>>90567679

Holy shit.

>>90531631
she says
>How do you want me to talk to you if you insult me, you yell me?
>North Dakota, please, please
>Look at it, look at it
>Look, my friends are there

>>90566972

I was pretty mad at Charles for creating that whole tragedy desu. Although I suppose you could say it was equally Logan's fault for acquiescing.

>>90570066

I loved all the subtle nods to the other two Wolverine solo flicks, even Origins.

>You still have time
>dies

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>>90566972

Killed me a little on the inside

Fuck man that was hard

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>>90567679

I wanted to re-watch some scenes earlier, so I looked up a shitty camrip on Primewire that as far as I could figure, was the Chinese release.

In it, X-24's head doesn't get blown to pieces when Laura shoots him. There's the sound, he falls, and that's it. Scene continues as normal.

>>90575602
What do you mean? That they don't show that? Cuz his head is blown open super hard.

>>90575652

Less gory edit obviously.

>>90550336
I didn't see any of the trailers so let me tell you it was pretty fuckin cool seeing it for the first time.

>>90566972
I thought for a minute he was going to be okay.

But I knew shit was going to end badly for them. I just didn't realize how badly.

>>90537863
Shoulda been Omega Red

>>90575602
Are we just going to pretend he couldn't have gotten better from that? Obviously he'd be "missing his memories" and he'd be far more vulnerable to head trauma but wouldn't he regenerate eventually? Or was the earlier scene of him being injected supposed to show his healing was worse?

>>90537863
I think I heard about them considering Sabertooth for a while but then deciding it wouldn't work.

>>90530973
>Spaniard spanish
>Mexican spanish
>people actually prefer those to superior Dominican Spanish

this world has truly gone to shit.

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>>90575910
>Dominicans
>superior to anything outsides of Haitians

>>90575778
no just no

>>90546116
The Before trilogy, all three films are made 10/10 and I've never enjoyed romantic movies. Easily three of my favorite movies ever. Before Midnight was a real gut punch of an ending. I hope we get another one in 6 years since the others were all 9 years apart.

>>90575791
I think the scene earlier in the movie where they had to inject X-24 was to show he wasn't a perfect copy of the real thing

>>90534520
>>90546116
Yeah, if you put a gun to my head I'd say I liked Two Towers the best but the difference between the LOTR films is the difference between an A+ and an A.

>>90545735
yeah that cliff face Logan got hauled up is kinda ND badlands-ish and that's 200 miles from the Canadian border

>>90545735
>>90576284

I'm happy I wasn't the only one bothered by this. It was Transformers 2 tier.

I loved the movie but I'm really sad my wife won't be able to enjoy it. She loves the X-men movies (mostly because of the social concept and Patrick Stewart) but she hates gore and she really doesn't like depressing movies. Since it's one of the three best films she's totally missing out and I feel sorry for her.

>>90575791

See

>>90575680

>>90576413

So...you single?

>>90545735
>>90576284
>>90576387
Any earth-moving mutant could have changed the landscape in the X-men universe.

>>90576458
I don't think that her not wanting to watch a Wolverine movie is grounds for divorce, but I'll get back to you.

>>90576413
You've got a perfectly good lap for her to turn away and rest her head in when things get intense, if you know what I mean

>>90557239
>autists
You're the one obsessed with this bit.

>>90536555
3 things, 1 Charles had a seizure resulting in i forget how many exact deaths, but 7 xmen, and around 600ish people were hurt i think.
2, The albino guy used to work for the agency hunting and killing mutants.
3, the doctor biologically engineered the food that was being mass produced by certain countries to prevent the mutation from ever occuring.

>>90564435
Laura was X-23:23

There were at least 22 other kids.

Were...

>>90537863
The whole point of the final fight of the movie being against a younger Wolverine is that it's his greatest fear, himself being turned into a mindless weapon. Some people thought it should have been Daken, but I don't think they could have remotely built them up alongside the daughter story. X24 worked well for what it was.

>>90538726
How are there so many people on /co/ asking so many basic questions about the movie that are clearly outlined or explained. Did people not pay attention or is there just way more casual fans than their used to be?

The movie wasn't exceptionally complicated, they outright state it once or twice and it's implied many times.

>>90530488
>You're waiting for me to die!

>>90575977
>t. Assblasted Central American

>>90533251
>"There's water and..... There's water and... uh"

>>90579878

Here's one for the Oscar nomination neither Jackman, Stewart, nor Keen will receive.

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>>90580054

whoops

>>90578431

These threads attract all kinds of brain-dead normies.

>>90538703

I work at that Harrah's, and it's in New Orleans, not in Oklahoma like the movie stated.

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>>90535681
From memory, in the original line she said basically that, but instead of "bullying me" it was "yelling at me"

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>>90535681

pls no bully

>>90579878
That whole scene was perfect. I managed to avoid tears right up until his face broke, at which point it must have started raining.

>"Bad shit happens to people I care about."
>"Then I'll be fine."

Are all Latinas this savage or is it just this little girl

>>90580054
I think they should at least get a nomination for make-up if nothing else. They had some really good blood/injury effects in this film. Especially if Suicide Squad got one.

>>90575172
>So this is what it feels like

Pretty sure he did.

>>90530973
I watched the movie on Castilian and they kept the dub fairly neutral.

>>90582584
>So this is what it feels like

Pretty sure he was talking about dying.

>>90582608
He was. But that was also a callback to what Xavier said referring to having a family. It had a double meaning.

>>90578341
Daken would have worked because he'd represent both a younger version of Wolverine, and the future that Logan fears for Laura.

Sabertooth would have worked because he's already Logan's evil mirror, a representation of the man he was and the monster he fears to be, but he's also his half-brother, and his wife's killer. Victor more than anyone else represents Logan's failed attempts at having a family. And Victor being lobotomized/controlled/experimented on by the Reavers, reduced to a feral pawn, would resonate even more with the theme of decay and loss.

I get that they may not want to tie Logan with Origins by bringing Victor into it, but it would add even more emotional depth to the story. And if >>90567679 is intentional, it shows that they're not that afraid to reference elements from the older, shittier movies.

But no, let's just toss another Wolverine clone into it. Let's name him X-24, because we didn't bother using the original reason for X-23's name.

>>90582608
He says it right after she calls him daddy. It's clearly about the feeling of family that Charles was talking about, not about dying.

>>90582243
>>90582243
Ever had to speak at a loved one's funeral, and tears just won't let you?

There's not a worse feeling in the world.

The movie did an amazing job of portraying it.

Shit, ceiling is leaking again. Directly onto my eyes.

>>90582646
>Daken would have worked because he'd represent both a younger version of Wolverine, and the future that Logan fears for Laura.
Daken would have been rough because they would have had to devote at least 15 minutes building out Daken's backstory, and it would have brought in daddy issues the movie didn't need.

It would have been a nice foil to Laura, but I don't think it would have worked with how they used X-24.

Sabertooth may not have worked either because remember that they already established that he can't survive the adamantium process. So that means that Wolverine would have just needed to slice him into tiny bits (which he's only ever been stopped from doing because he's been in PG-13 material for most of his existence).

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An incredibly dangerous drinking game would be, "take a drink every time a character regains consciousness or wakes up" in Logan.

Because goddamn, that has to happen like 35 times in this movie.

>>90582731
>Sabertooth may not have worked either because remember that they already established that he can't survive the adamantium process

Could be explained with the green booster juice, which works as a control mechanism, i.e. he needs a regular dose to stay alive.

>>90582731
Yeah, Daken would have taken a little bit of work, but it would have been enough for the scientist guy or someone to tell Logan "he's also your son"

Sabertooth's thing with adamantium, not that anyone would remember it, could have been written around by using the green drug, or saying that they perfected the process. Hell, the adamantium process could even be the reason he's mindless, and he could also be decaying like Logan, just kept in shape by the drug. Another paralel with Logan's state in the movie.

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>>90582752
By the arrival in Eden, where Logan has passed out and woke twice in the car, once at the foot of the cliff, then wakes two more times at the hideout, I was pretty sure it was the Director or the screenwriter's fetish. Even Pierce and Caliban are regaining consciousness in this movie.

I'm gonna count when it's on Blu Ray.

>>90558913
Aye, I can get behind that.

>>90582779
Daken is a rather shit comic book character, and normies could not be made to care about him at all in the course of a 2 hour movie with a 30 minute farm scene tacked on.

So they might as well have gone with "younger Wolvie". Honestly, Fuck Daken. Even his name sounds stupid said aloud.

>>90582844
I agree Daken is rather arse, but the concept of the son that Wolverine failed, contrasted with the daughter that he's trying to save, is far more interesting than just a younger clone.

But that's also why I push Victor a lot harder, using him for that role has a lot more thematic depth than any other option.

>>90582902

Anything has more thematic depth than brainwashed clone.