/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

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First for the ultimate imperial husbando

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>>90448898
What the fuck was his problem?

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Why were they such good bros?

I like star wars stuff, are the movies good?

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>>90448975

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>>90448975
He saw some shit he can't unsee

>>90448657
>Mortis Arc
>Mandatory
Just because we suffered through it doesn't mean other anons have to.

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>>90448898
SHUT UP MOTTI

I'M IMPORTANT AND SMART AND AN IMPERIAL MASTERMIND

why did vader have a tie advanced and no one else does

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>>90448898

BEST EDITION

>>90449208
Because tie fighters are cheap and easier to mass produce.

>>90449023

Yes, except TFA.

>>90449276
It doesn't look like the tie advanced requires any extra material of anything

The best part of a New Hope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abJOMjsgc-8

>>90448992
They both like space fascism

>>90449315
The TIE advanced is Vader's ship. It has shielding and a hyperdrive, like Thrawn's experimental ship. Vader tinkers with it in his castle workshop. It's not standard.

>>90449315
The Tie Advanced had shields, better targeting system, and a hyperdrive. Standard Ties had none of that. Also a prototype not mass produced.

>>90449420
that sounds cute

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Post Krennics lads

>>90449420
>>90449481
Vader/Anakin doing the same things to relax always amuses me

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Share your absolute top favorite Star Wars moments/scenes!

> End of Rogue One from when the Destroyers crash into each other onward to the credits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qemb3iBlp1o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaEzKRngCyY

>>90449023
They're masterful in visual storytelling, and fantasy world building, with lovable characters throughout.

Each of the first 6 movies were groundbreaking with special effects during each release

7 is a bit more boring and safe, feels more like a generic blockbuster movie IMO

>>90449208
The Inquisitors do too.

They're also all prototypes, even Vader's, although his is personally customized.

The implication is that eventually, the Advanced models would replace standard TIE's.

JJ didn't get the memo.

So what do we know didn't make it into the final cut of RO? Is there a list out there?

>>90449654
It's basically an Abrams movie plus all the shitty ideas Kasdan had for ESTB/ROTJ that Lucas threw out.

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i finished episode six of the second season of rebels and goddammit this thing its horrible The B-wing was a mistake

>>90449296
>>90449654
thanks, I started playing the Starkiller game and the mmorpg one and it seems nice, I like the imperial agent lore

>>90449023
The very worst they get is "not bad". So yeah they're pretty good.

>>90449158
>suffered
(You)

>>90449810
I think there is, mostly about the 3rd act, a lot of things were different

>>90449810
It's hard to say, because a lot of the editing in the trailers was quite literally just made for the trailers to hide stuff about the movie.

Like the shot of Jyn posing in what looked like a Death Star corridor, or the shot of Vader on the Death Star which was clearly hiding the Mustafar reveal. Those were almost certainly thrown into the trailer to build hype and cover the actual plot of the trailer.

There were shots of Jyn running with the Rebel soldiers to/from the AT-ACT's, as well as through the Imperial Base with Kay-Too. It's unclear as to whether these were story changes, or just more fake scenes to mask the plot of the movie.

There was a shot of a TIE Fighter flying towards Jyn on the platform, that was supposedly going to destroy the comms array? Not sure that really makes sense though.

There was confirmed deleted scenes of a younger Saw Gerrera interacting with Galen though.

>>90449932

The Imperial lore is fun as hell. As you can see from these threads. But the Rebels are good too.

>>90449420
>Greasemonkey Vader tinkering with his TIE Advanced in his castle's ship garage

Do you think Vader was sad that Tarkin died?

>>90450047
As much as he could be, really.

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>>90449810

That other scene with Krennic and Vader and the one where he pulls a gun on Tarkin.

But there must be some more.

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>>90449932
Where are you from that swtor and force unleashed are your first exposure to Star Wars? I'm not sure how that happens unless you aren't from the states.

>>90449420
You're mostly correct, but worth mentioning the Inquisitors all use the Advanced model too. They're also explicitly all prototypes.

It wasn't specifically designed for Vader

>>90450047
He probably lamented the fact that Tarkin was a good leader and intelligent, and wouldn't be easy to replace. Especially not with someone who would be just as competent, and understand that he's the grand space wizard who deserves to be respected, like tarkin did.

>>90450047

Yeah, a little.

He mentions Tarkin had vision in the comic.

>>90450047
Yes, the Vader comic that picks up right after ANH actually has Vader express anger against Motti, and praised Tarkin over him for "having vision".

>>90450065
>pulls a gun on Tarkin
WHAT? SOURCE?

>>90450121
WE ARE STANDING HERE AMIDST MY ACHIEVEMENTS

NOT YOURS

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>>90450121

It's where this is from. A bit speculative but I can't see any other circumstance where he would have done this.

http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-deleted-scene-images/

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Remember when Vader tripped on his arm and fell down a hole?

>>90450192

>officer in the back giving Krennic the Costanza look

Every time.

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>>90450192
how much longer must we suffer before the DVD with answers comes out

>>90450291
>implying we'll ever completely learn what happened during the reshoots

>>90450328
Any answers is better than none.

I don't understand why they can't just tell us

>>90450389
because then people will harass pablo on twitter about what is canon

>>90450418
I hate people. I just want to know what ending was too dumb that they had to reshoot

>>90450196
No, and good riddance to bad rubbish.

>>90450451

I wonder if it was bad. It might have been that they wanted it to be more realistic or believable.

Like that scene with Krennic pulling a gun. Sure it looks cool as hell, but the result should have been pretty much instant death for him. So you're kinda writing yourself in a corner there.

>>90450581
Yeah if you pulled a gun on Tarkin you'd be fucking ash in less than a second. Especially with all those witnesses. Everyone knows Tarkin is far more important that krennic.

I heard that people survived, but that creates a problem. Where would they be, after obviously becoming heros?

Post a small thing you would change about RO:

A second or two extra on the top of that tower, where Jyn says 'remember me' and you see him realize who she is, just before he's shot by Cassian

>>90449610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0r4jNhG9Z4

Cheesy as it was, this scene cemented Palpatine as the ultimate badass in my mind.

>>90450618
>I heard that people survived, but that creates a problem. Where would they be, after obviously becoming heros?

I don't see any problems, the Galaxy is huge.

But the ending where they survived was never filmed.

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>>90450618
Do you mean surviving Scarif? It's possible some might have been picked up by rescue craft before getting back into hyperspace. I know there was a super cringeworthy edgy grimdark alternate ending leak involving Jyn and Cassian escaping Scarif only to be the rebel troopers chopped up by Vader at the end of the movie, handing the plans directly to Leia's hands.

>>90450660
General Merrick lives instead of getting picked off like a fucking nobody

>>90450660
Most of it was fine, just remove the cringy "hero speech" dialogue, the scenes of Jyn beating up Stormtroopers, the Asian monkdude, and trim down the battle scenes a bit. Also dramatically shorten Vader's "rampage" scene.

>>90450823

But why? Vader's scene wasn't that long.

Just watched latest episode of Rebels, and oh my fucking god it was amazing! Though that big "mystery cargo" was a little too easy to read, as the episode went, it got better with all that nebula fighting and shit. Fuck, I want to install Freespace 2 and fuck up some ayyliens in nebulas right now.

>>90450823
I read something about how she made it all up to try and gain support and that made more sense then her actually believing in hope like that

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>>90450851

>>90450736
>super cringeworthy edgy grimdark alternate ending leak involving Jyn and Cassian escaping Scarif only to be the rebel troopers chopped up by Vader at the end of the movie
hunh

please tell me that's not real and not a real thought someone had for the ending

>>90450848
not in discrete terms, but it drags on a little bit and focuses way too explicitly on the direct vader action as opposed to having a degree of artistic subtlety

in my opinion I would have shot it just with vader lighting up the lightsaber and then transitioning to the guy grabbing the plans from the locked out guys hand until his hand falls off through the door

>>90450910
>mad about people unironically enjoying star wars

>>90450936
I'm 90% certain it was the real original ending, but I can't remember exactly, it COULD have been just some anon bullshitting me but it seemed legit at the time I saw it

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>>90450823
You talking shit about Baze and Chirrut

>>90450965
>I'm 90% certain it was the real original ending, but I can't remember exactly, it COULD have been just some anon bullshitting me but it seemed legit at the time I saw it
It was just an anon bullshitting you

>>90450848
It went on long enough that it felt a little too pandery to me, like "Hey look, it's Vader!" Don't get me wrong, it was nice seeing Vader be a badass again, but still.

>>90450871
I wouldn't doubt that.

>>90450977
i am. wanna fight about it

>>90450965
>not in discrete terms, but it drags on a little bit and focuses way too explicitly on the direct vader action as opposed to having a degree of artistic subtlety

Fair enough. I quite liked that for once it wasn't subtle, just brutal and horrible. But differing opinions and all that.

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>>90451050
Nah. they're not everyones thing. I liked them. You're allowed to not like them

I'm not some autistic sperg who starts a fight over an opinion

>>90451096
Thanks. That's a welcome change around here.

>>90450965
>>90451052
Vader's lightsaber igniting, then cut to the guy in another room hearing screaming and blaster fire. Later he passes by the room and sees piled-up Rebel corpses with lightsaber wounds. That would've been equally intimidating and "Vader's a badass again", but with more subtlety and maybe even more dread/horror thrown in.

>Of course, Admiral Ackbar is a student of history, and in many cases smaller, lesser forces have outmatched and outfoxed their betters. The Ghostfinders versus the Sith armada. The Mandalorians versus the Grand Army of the Republic. And, of course, the Rebel Alliance versus the Empire.

>>90451176
at some point you have to realize you're on a cambodian fingerpainting picture blog and that you're arguing about movies from the 70's about a space grand wizard.

>>90451176
>That would've been equally intimidating

Nah, I can't agree. What did it for me was just seeing how Vader slugged these people. No elegance, no subtlety. Just brutal force.

>>90451250
Mostly it's everyone saying how much of a BA vader is, but that scene reminded me just how OP he is, compared to people without the Force

pablo's the guy we ask for lore clarification right?

>>90451312
yes. try not to get blocked

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Will we see more of Kalani and the glorious CIS in Rebels season 4?

>>90451312
Yes, just don't spam him.

>>90451308
I'd rather him be OP honestly. The EU has a lot of good stuff and a lot of flaws, and one of those flaws was turning Vader into a gigantic pussy, even before the PT with Angstakin.

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>>90451339
The CIS is dead, dude.

Is it wrong that I like that Anakin was played as kind of a bitch in the PT?

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>>90451393
Lies! This is a Republic trick!

>The last SSD in the Empire at Jakku, the Ravager, was taken down by a fucking tractor beam from a falling capital ship of the NR

>>90451388
In other media he says things like this, then backs the words up. Isn't this the first time we've seen Vader kicking ass and taking names in a movie? He was rightfully wary of Kenobi. Luke he was testing and tempting, rather than going all out.

>>90450851
>the moment the ships started burning up
holy shit

>>90451577
Disney's GCW canon was a mistake.

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>>90451600
Like this, dammit.

>>90451649
The GCW era is perfectly fine in canon though, what is the problem exactly

>>90448992
Mutual respect, i assume.

They were both very pragmatic, efficient, straight-to-the point people

>>90451388
Plenty of comics where Vader fucks shit up. Just because Gary Stu Malek was a thing (which didn't even get an ending so might as well not exist in the context of EU) doesn't ignore the rest of the EU.

>>90451795
They ruined it. We go from Endor to Jakku with nothing talked about in between and Jakku itself was retarded.

>>90451851
There's an entire year for stuff to happen between Endor and Jakku. That's like saying Lucas ruined the GCW by having a year between ESB and ROTJ.

>>90451835
I'll ignore Gary Stukiller to the very end, no matter what Disney says.

>Y-Wing action
>TIE/D action
>Re-entry effects and burning up ISDs
This was a good episode

>>90451851
Did you even read the Aftermath trilogy? The Battle of Kuat is mentioned, we see the mission to save Kashyyyk, we're told of countless other victories over the Imperial remnants.

>>90451936
>Did you even read the Aftermath trilogy
Probably not, it's fucking awful

Have the Death Troopers shown up yet?

>>90451980
Why don't you watch and find out?

>>90451936
Aftermath and its cuck writer never were, never are, and never will be canonical.

>>90451958
Even if that may be true, we've had 4 books (including the Aftermath Trilogy), the Uprising mobile RPG, and 1 comic detailing stuff happening between Endor and Jakku, and canon has only really been a thing for like 3 years.

If he hasn't bothered to read anything canon, then whatever, but he can't complain about nothing happening when clearly there has been plenty of focus on that area.

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You think if you post a mean picture on the holonet, Krennics deathtroopers will burst through your front door?

>>90451980
They're in the upcoming season finale

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>>90452023
No, because they're dead

>>90452020
Dude you missed my point. Wendig is a fucking meme and his writing is unbearable to get through to anyone who reads more than once a year

>>90452051
What videogame is this?

>>90451577
*after sustaining very heavy damage

>>90451410

No. He is kind of a sassy bitch, that's why we love him.

>no deathtrooper novel

>>90452051

I keep waiting for this joke to get old but it never does.

much like Krennic and his deathtroopers

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>>90452061
>tries to pull the /tv/ cgi meme because he thinks the picture is from Rogue One

>>90452084
They're emotionless cyborgs, I don't think they'de make for good characters in a novel anon

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>>90452051
That smile is so pure.. so good.. I love this man

>>90452070
I was talking to someone (normie) and he told me that he hated the prequels because of Hayden ruining him. His problem was that Darth Vader should have been a badass, and Anakin was just sad. I liked it, especially after watching the clone wars.

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>>90452057
You can ignore canon if it's fucking horrible. Aftermath and Wendig are fucking horrible.

>>90452104
They're actually a lively and colorful group, but Krennic couldn't get them to shut up so he fitted their helmets with voice scramblers and now their hilarious commentary sounds like warbling droidspeak to everyone else

>>90452139
You can just, like, not read it, sure, but it's still canon.

Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you can't declare it non-canon.

Believe me, if that was the case, TFA would be eradicated

>>90452139
>You can ignore canon if it's fucking horrible.
Not when everything that comes out chronologically after Aftermath's events are shaped by what happens in it.

>>90452139
>there isn't ___ in canon!
>actually there is
>WELL I'M GONNA IGNORE IT
Okay dude

>>90450709
he played them all in that scene
still it was pretty cheesy

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>no Qui-Gon novel
>no Dooku novel

>>90452172
Just read a quick rundown and you'll be fine. Do not pay him.

>>90452178
I want more Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan adventures

feels bad man

>>90452104

They're enhanced, that doesn't mean they are emotionless. They're a highly specialised team too, I'd love to see how they work together on a mission once.

>movie marathon ends at episode VI
what did they mean by this?

>>90452221
It means they're not Disney

>>90452221
RO isn't even on Bluray yet and TFA hasn't been purchased by any network to run yet

>>90452221
based

>>90452221
They likely don't have the broadcast rights to TFA yet

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>>90452206
you had an entire mediocre juvenile scifi book series

>tfw still have those books

>>90450851
shit was cash, but I do agree most of the plot was given away in the first few minutes.

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>>90452166
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>>90452175
If Disney hired a teenaged deviantart writer to make a canon Star Wars book, would you think it's canon?

Cuck Wendig is a fucking idiot, his writing is atrocious, and he had no real knowledge of Star Wars when he wrote Aftermath. It was written horribly, it made no sense, the characters were terrible, and it doesn't deserve to even be called literature, let alone canon.

Star Wars has always been a franchise supposed to be for the fans. For the fans, of the fans, by the fans. If stupid shit comes along that ruins the franchise or tries to, like Aftermath, then hell yes you can ignore it.

>>90452291
pedo jar jar tho

>>90452291
>If Disney hired a teenaged deviantart writer to make a canon Star Wars book, would you think it's canon?
I don't decide what's canon so it doesn't matter if I think his books are shit.

>>90452291
It's canon, regardless of quality.

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>>90452291
Lemme guess, the special editions are bad too, because they ruin movies that "belong to the fans"

>>90452291
I hate Wendig and even I think you're being a complete baby about this

So do we know Pablos opinion on Cuck Wendigo yet?

>>90452291
The problem with Aftermath isn't really the content, though. It's written incredibly poorly and Wendig can't make any of his OCs interesting to save his life but the actual events aren't really a problem.

>>90452084
well there is the old Death Troopers novel from legends

probably not what you want though

>>90452354
I've never actually heard anything on their opinion on the books.

Just that Wendig wrote a chapter about HK-47 and they made him remove it. No I am not joking.

>>90452377

Yeah, so the perfect thing to read in a summary on a wiki. I can't imagine anyone enjoys reading those books.

Does anyone know how well they sold?

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>>90452343
You don't have to accept things as canon.

If Wendig's next book says every character is gay, black, and transsexual out of nowhere, then would you believe it? Would you really base your entire understanding of Star Wars lore on stupid bullshit?

>>90452316
>>90452319
>>90452321
There are a lot of fans who still ignore Disney canon and follow EU lore, and the EU has a lot of freedom to pick and choose what's lore to you and not.

You don't have to agree with us.

>>90452385
What's HK-47?

I hate him because he forced his fucking politics into a series that, handled by someone like Luceno, could have been fucking amazing

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>>90452084
fuck that I want these guys

>>90452385
I've not read any of his stuff, but how would HK even tie into it?

>>90452430
A droid from KOTOR

>>90452430
KOTOR trash, and a sure-fiire way to know someone isn't worth talking to when they say they want him back in canon.

>>90452377
>the NR beats the remnant with no trouble

That's actually a pretty big problem anon

>>90452417
>If Wendig's next book says every character is gay, black, and transsexual out of nowhere, then would you believe it? Would you really base your entire understanding of Star Wars lore on stupid bullshit?

That's what he did though with the strong independant black womyn who don't need no empire

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>>90452430
That murder droid from KOTOR.

>>90452417
>You don't have to accept things as canon.
You don't have to like things, but that's how canon works. You can have your own headcanon but that doesn't change what the official canon is.

>>90452437
All that we know is that there was interlude chapter in which an old droid would be talking. They wouldn't say it's name, but based on how it was talking, fans would be able to figure out who it was.

The LSG shot it down completely, and the chapter was removed.

>>90452430
Pretty overatted KOTOR character.

Also Luceno has already done two pretty awesome canon books in the far superior ROTS->ANH era, so no complaints from me. Wendig can have his trilogy.

>>90452479
I'm not claiming the official canon will change, but that's the point of headcanon. It's what you consider canon on a personal basis.

>>90452476
He's such a cuck that it isn't even funny. I have no clue why Disney let him write official stories.

>>90452476
I do not believe you have read the books at all.

For starters, Sloane isn't even Wendig's creation.

And secondly, Sloane is completely pro-empire, everything she does is for the Empire.

>>90452417
If it ends up in a book, then it means the Story Group is fine with it being Official Star Wars Lore. Since they are the ones that decide canon, not us, we have to deal with whatever they allow.

>EUfag
That explains a lot.

A big thing you need to realize with SW now, they way everything was handled with Legends and now with Canon is different. You could pick and choose your "canon" in Legends, but with Disney canon, you can't. Something is either canon or it isn't; there is no picking and choosing.

>>90452527
>He's such a cuck that it isn't even funny. I have no clue why Disney let him write official stories.
His fans begged them on twitter

>>90452527
>I'm not claiming the official canon will change, but that's the point of headcanon. It's what you consider canon on a personal basis.
Okay, but you keep treating canon as something that you can decide on your own. You can do that with headcanon. Official canon is what it is, whether you like it or not, and when we discuss canon that's what we're discussing.

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>I wanted Brendol Hux to be somewhat interesting because he's the fucking father of Armitage and he founded the child-brainwashing academy
>Aftermath happens
>my face when

>>90452546

It makes me sad that Sloane appears so predominantly in Wendig books, because I would like to know more about her, but I'm not reading Wendig.

>>90452417
>There are a lot of fans who still ignore Disney canon and follow EU lore, and the EU has a lot of freedom to pick and choose what's lore to you and not.
>You don't have to agree with us.
You can do that, but factually and objectively, you will just be creating your own headcanons which clashes with the official word of Lucasfilm. Any and all future releases will be made with the canon continuity in mind.

>>90452583
There was no hope for Brendol when it was revealed that Armitage kills him and takes his place as leader of the cadet forces.

>>90452583
>father of an uninteresting character is also uninteresting
what a shock

>>90452527
>He's such a cuck that it isn't even funny. I have no clue why Disney let him write official stories.

He is cheap. And it wasn't Disney iirc, but Del Rey. They have awful tastes in writers (ex. Traviss).

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>>90452122
>That smile is so pure.. so good.. I love this man
Agreed

>>90452547
>>90452575
>>90452593
I'm aware of that, but like other EUfags I will continue to ignore most of Disney's canon and pick and choose my own.

>>90452586
>Palpatine and Gallius Rax ran/are running the Empire the wrong way. My way is better.
>Too proud to realize she was being used by Gallius Rax only to be discarded by him on Chandrila when he has people openly attack Mothma in the name of the Empire
>Survives Jakku and vows to make the remaining Imperial forces that are out in the Unknown Regions into something worth calling an Empire - eventually turns into the First Order.
There you go, anon.

>>90452679
Okay, you can do that, just don't expect us to cater to you when we're discussing canon

>>90452679
Well, alright then

>>90452291

This anon isn't wrong despite people trying to defend Story Group's ideas, the Wendig books are some of the worst books to ever grace the EU and the worst part is they're supposed to be canon.

I could have found people off of the street in my college town that could write a better book and do it with sentences numbering more than three to five words at a time.

The short sentences review of Wendig's book is pure gold.

>>90452679
>Disney's canon
Lucasfilm's

>>90452685

Thanks man.

>>90452610
That could have been interesting though. AND HE FUCKED IT UP

>>90452707
>the Wendig books are some of the worst books to ever grace the EU
No, they're just not written well. Their content is fine.

Legends had a shitton of stinkers and badly written books with bad content that were 100x worse

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hk47 will always be canon no matter what meatbag

>>90452750
Brendol doesn't die in Empire's End. It was decided as part of Armitage's backstory in the TFA Visual Dictionary.

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>>90452611
whore

>>90452834

Christ he's lame.

>>90452761
No, Wendig's is pretty much on par with most shitty Legends material. The only ones I can think of that would be worse would be the one with werewolves and Luke being shitty, but even that at least it didn't have transsexual lesbian strongwymyn and a literal cuckold writer.

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>>90452834
hux? mor liek sux

>>90452699
>>90452705
That's cool, agree to disagree. In my opinion Disney wasn't wrong to get rid of a lot of the bad EU content, but what they replaced it with isn't much better. That's my main gripe.

Hux is probably one of the few characters that wasn't ruined by TFA, only because he doesn't do anything. I hope they expand him and make him an actual threat

>>90453071
so what you're saying....is that he needs and even bigger Starkiller base

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Post characters that you want to be expanded upon

>>90452061
A New Hope

>>90453161
I'm thinking he needs to pull a grand Keikaku thing and say that it was only the beginning and use their content at destroying deathstar 3.0 to surprise them with an attack or something. Make him competent is all I'm asking.

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>>90452883
>cuckold

Every time.

>>90453182
hux

>>90453182

Fuck no. I never want to see her ugly ass ever again. That actress makes me heave, I don't know why.

Hux, I guess. Because he's nothing right now.

>the last jedi
>aboard the first order SSD
>HEY HUX way to pull a tarkin and lose star killer base

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>>90453071
rumor has it snoke chokes him out

>>90453296
>Sees the armband rank that literally says tarkin in besh
>TRIGGERED

>>90450013

>the shot of Vader on the Death Star which was clearly hiding the Mustafar reveal.
EXCEPT that was a deleted scene, vader was supposed to watch the death star's test.

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>>90453066
agreed

>>90452699
its an open forum discuss what ever you fucking please

>no you cant talk about your nerdy shit thats exactly the same as ours, OH WAIT it is the same thing

>>90453182
Zuckuss and 4-LOM

They desperately need some love

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>>90452699

>>90453310
snoke really didnt seem to mad about star killer base.

maybe it was only meant to rip the heart of the republic, which it did.

>>90450263
What?

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So, what will the Eclipse turn out to be in the next film? I'm hoping that it isn't just a normal super star destroyer but the eu version.

>>90453352
You know what anon meant.

The entire discussion started from someone saying that nothing has been explored between Endor and Jakku.

Then when we said that quite a lot of stuff has already explored that period, despite canon being very young, he backpeddled and said he doesn't follow canon and just headcanons with EU material instead.

THAT is what >>90452699 meant by "don't expect us to cater to you when we're discussing canon", because obviously you can't talk about canon to someone who doesn't even follow it. We can't just magically know someones stupid headcanon either.

>>90453341
If he was there during Krennic's spergout towards Tarkin he would've choked his ass to death.

>>90453440
I actually like the design of the Eclipse, I just wish it wasn't so stupidly huge.

I'd say 2-3x the size of an ISD is big enough.

>>90453440
I hope it's something new, not another copy and not that fat, ugly atrocity

>>90453440
in the old canon the eclipse was never fully built, so they might have sent a half built SSD into the unknown regions.

if its a standard SSD, im hoping the first order kept building till we get a monster like your pic.

after seeing star killer base, im super hyped for what kind of mobile base the first order has.

>>90453440
Do we know we're even seeing the Eclipse in the new one?

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I'll stream this game, the question is which character do I play with next? I maxed Anakin.

>>90453532
Rumor is that we'll see an SSD-type mobile headquarters for the First Order, but there's nothing to indicate it's the Eclipse itself. My money is on the Eclipse no longer being in use and the HQ being a new ship.

>>90453440
Are gravity well protectors canon? Doesn't Thrawn originally steal them from the Vagaari?

>>90453526
I wonder if in those 30 years they actually build themselves a small empire in the unknown regions. Think Fel Empire and Sloane got her ass couped by Snoke.

>>90453612
i really cant imagine they wont be putting a super laser on a SSD.

its just to awesome to pass up

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>sabines empty chair
thank you based filoni >:)

>>90453600

Gasgano?

>>90453648
that was there intention, to build a better empire.

they blew up a planet housing a death star in the first movie and snoke didnt give a single fuck.

dude has to have some thing awesome up his sleeve, look at the resurgent class star destroyer.

>7 has Super Death Star
>8 has Ultra Mega Super Star Destroyer
>9 will have Giga Ultimate Death Star

10 will be ULTRA STAR DESTROYER VS MEGADETH STAR A SYFY ORIGINAL MOVIE

>>90453646
You are thinking of interdiction fields from Outbound Flight. Gravity well stuff was made canon in Tarkin, I believe.

>>90451312
Him, Leland Chee, and that Matt guy from the story group. Pretty much anyone in the story group unless you want specific details on author created planets or characters in which case you can ask the author of the book.

>>90451577
Holy shit that sounds fucking hilarious.

>>90453749
Wait wheres the black hole vs. another black hole

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>>90453646
Yep, this is the cruiser the Empire has that uses them.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interdictor_cruiser

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>>90453600

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>>90453749
>YFW the new republic shows up with an old SSD
>snoke and the eclipse show up and super laser it

and thats the opening scene for the last jedi

>>90453802
That's 11

>>90453749
Doesn't the New Republic have some ISDs?

>>90453804
So considering TFA and RO just proved that gravity wells don't fucking matter in the slightest when it comes to hyperspace travel, how exactly do these things work?

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>>90453708
Just wait until she comes back for the finale.

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>>90453806
Teemto it is
stream is on twitch dot tv
jeanswag90

>>90453885
What do you mean exactly? How did TFA and RO screw over the gravity wells?

>>90453885
They act as AoE tractor beams physically pulling stuff out of hyperspace.

They can also pull stuff in realspace.

>>90453440
>>90453488
>>90453526
This is the sice reference btw, unfortunatly the First Order Resurgent star destroyer isn't on there.

>>90453959
>Han Solo jumps past SB's planetary shield right into the atmosphere
>Cassian Andor jumps away from Jedha while still in the atmosphere with shit exploding around him

In Legends it was established that you just plain can't do that, you have to get yourself a good distance away from the planet first so you're not as influenced by its gravity before making a jump, and you can't jump so close to the planet as its gravity will pull you out of hyperspace before you even make it to the upper atmosphere.

So did anyone noticed the Alliance symbol was already being used by the pilots we saw last night?

Whatever happened to Sabine's phoenix logo being the origin of it?

>>90452215
I get the feeling that if they are conscious they're the kind of guys who absolutely don't talk about anything other that mission goals and details. I can't imagine them having actual emotional conversations during missions, only shit like "SHE MAY BE IN THE BASEMENT." "THE HOTEL OWNER SAID THE BASEMENT IS FULL OF WATER AND ANALYSIS FROM OUR SCANS CONFIRM HIS ACCOUNT." "I SEE HEAT SIGNATURES IN THE FLOOR ABOVE US. FIRE?" "YES. CONFIRMATION TO FIRE DIRECTOR?" "You may fire."

Really now that I think of it this would make a good short story or something where you're trying to figure out who they're assassinating. It would make for a good Rebels episode where you see them go on a mission from the perspective of hacked cameras in a Rebel base, from personal cameras in their helmets, from flying drones detecting heat signatures, and from the perspective of Rebel soldiers and have the audience try to figure out what main character they assassinated in the episode over a break in between seasons using all the footage and military dialogue.

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>>90454050
forgot fucking pic

>>90454065
Time to ask pablo!

>>90454052
TCW already did that though. The Malevolence is destroyed by being programmed to jump into hyperspace right into a planet.

>>90454065
Her art is just that popular ;^)

>>90454052
>In Legends
Guess what doesn't matter for TFA and RO?

do we actually know any thing about the eclipse?


or is the whole its just a standard SSD just headcanon?

>>90454096
Yeah, I get that. Cool. Whatever. But in Legends, the Interdictor works by projecting an artificial gravity well to pull ships out of hyperspace. Since canon has established that gravity wells are pretty much a non-factor when it comes to hyperspace travel, there leaves some confusion as to how Interdictors still work after their re-canonization.

NuEclipse is just a standard Executor style SSD, stop getting hyped over le epic bow planet killer ruining canon

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>>90454052
Well I am no specialist on planet gravity, but the Interdictor uses gravity well generators to pull ships in hyperspace out of hyperspace, it can also stop ships from entering hyperspace making it impossible to escape via that method. I have no idea on how hyperspacing directly from planets to another location works.

>>90454127
Well in new canon that's clearly not what they do, so think of it as a big ass tractor beam that works on ships in hyperspace because in that episode the heroes are expressly surprised that such a thing is possible whereas Sabine clues them in onto it as a newly invented technology

>>90454124
It's described as a standard SSD in the book. I don't think they specify it's an Executor-class, but SSD has always been shorthand for that and if there were anything different about it, or if it were meant to be significantly larger than the Executor, that probably would've been mentioned.

>>90454096
>>90454052
>In Legends it was established that you just plain can't do that, you have to get yourself a good distance away from the planet first so you're not as influenced by its gravity before making a jump, and you can't jump so close to the planet as its gravity will pull you out of hyperspace before you even make it to the upper atmosphere.

That was established in the Alan Dean Foster novelization of ANH and that I believe is still canon.

>>90454127
All ships that use hyperspace that get too close to a planet all have crashed in some way. Separatist capital ships have done it. The Falcon crashes on Starkiller Base, though Han keeps it from being destroyed.
The Interdictor in Rebels pulls the corvette out of hyperspace travel. It also does something similar in the Tarkin novel, though I don't remember it.

All that matters is that it is possible to jump to hyperspace while in a gravity well though it's not advised. It's also possible to jump into one and it's also not advised.

>>90454206
Movie novelizations aren't canon, though

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>>90454206
novelizations are non-canon where contradicted by canon, and since that's clearly contradicted by canon, just the same as the original preface to the original Alan Dean Foster novelization (of which I have a copy) contradicts the Emperor and Republic's characterization.

Also the last time I posted this, I think I incorrectly said I had an original 1976 printing, but I think this one might be late 78

>>90454188
>book
life dept?

>>90454271
RWARS
A
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S

>>90454188
i just remember it being mentioned that most information being expunged on the eclipse

>>90454296
Life Debt and Empire's End, yes. The whole point is that the Eclipse jumps to the Unknown Regions before Jakku happens, to act as the meeting point for the Imperials that refuse to accept the Galactic Concordance.

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>>90454271
according to my research the Book Club Edition was reprinted for December 12 1977, my copy says 1976 but that's probably just because the novelization originally came out late 76 6 months prior to the movie which was in May I think

and my shitty phonecam pictures better not warp again

>>90454134
That's true. Doesn't mean the First Order couldn't go full Nazi Wunderwaffen and make themselves an absurdingly large ship out there.

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>>90454428
FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT PHONE PICS STOP ROTATING

here's the prologue I talked about

>>90454271
>forgot to crop out my star wars jammies yet again
f u g

>>90454309
rare wars

>>90453733
Yeah. That was interesting. Starkiller Base blows up and he was all "well time to finish Kylo's training" and ordering Hux to evacuate. Sheev would've let them all die there for their failure.

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>>90454050
>>90454077
I actually found a different comparison that makes the Eclipse smaller than the Executor. Which one was the accurate one I do not know, however the new version will probably be a different size all together anyway.

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“You will go back to Jakku. The spot there in the dirt where my droids were operating is precious. Not just to me, but to the galaxy at large.” He sweeps his decrepit hand as if to the greater universe. “It is significant. It was significant a thousand years ago and it will be significant again. You will go back there and you will monitor my droids excavating the ground. Then I will send more droids and they will build something there below the ground. I want you to guard this space.”

>>90454473
You know, other than Palpatine being a puppet, most of that sort of still fits. Even the part about him shutting himself away is happening now in canon.

>>90454527
Im jealous of your jammies bro

>>90454580
Hell, the part about Palpatine being a puppet could be written off as public misconception, considering how he never seems to publicly do anything.

>>90454566
What did they build there ol' Palpi?

>>90454473
To be fair that may have been written by Lucas himself if it's from the Journal of the Whills. I think it's safe to assume that with a few things altered that passage is probably canon.

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>>90454566
Do you think Sheev ever played around with his spin chair. Like he'd spin around until he'd get dizzy, just like in computer class

>>90454580
Yeah, but he is aso surprisingly micromanaging.

>>90454555
it's shorter, but in terms of volume and mass given those dimensions it would still be at least 3x the real size of the executor, and that's a conservative estimate

>>90454580
>>90454610
that's true, but that's what is called a retcon, making old descriptions fit new events

I still like the novelizations

>>90454648
I wouldn't bet on a novelization superceding anything described elsewhere

>>90454666
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1JGt7e5koc

>>90454555
It depends, since the SSD's length was always widely disputed. Eclipse is at 17.5km, while the Executor apparently ranges from 2 to 19km depending on who you ask.

>>90454566
I can't take the name Gallius Rax seriously

>>90454555
How much fucking personal is needed to operate a SSD. That size already sound impractical as fuck

>>90453440
>>90453488
>>90453515
>>90453526
>>90453532
>I'm hoping that it isn't just a normal super star destroyer
It is

>>90454580
>shutting himself away
>sith lords publicly shy

>>90454700
And Starkiller base isn't impractical?

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>>90454666
I don't see why not. He is a master of Spin.

>>90454698
It's not a horrible name, but I'm still trying to figure out what the point of the character was.

>>90454703
sir please no headcanon

>>90454700
supposedly you could fit most of the imperial army on one, like the whole fucking army.

>>90454700
it's been said something like a hundred thousand or more, which could make sense, there's about 100,000 people in the entirety of my spread out southern Californian suburban city (excluding adjacent conurbations)

>>90454730
the point was one-upmanship by a author with pretense to fame and talent

>>90454723
I fucking love this clip

>>90454752
>sir please no headcanon
It's mentioned by the New Republic when it lists off all the regular SSDs the Empire had under it's name. Most are either destroyed or blown up, some are captured by the NR and by third parties. The Ravager is the last one operable to the Empire prior to Jakku. The Eclipse is the only one to "vanish" but we now know it just went into the Unknown Regions.

>>90454707
It's what happens, though. Sheev's public appearances were really rare and he just kind of holed himself up in the palace and spent all of his time studying dark side stuff. Amedda and others were the ones in charge of the actual governing. His public appearances were so rare that few people even knew what he really looked like, since all of the propaganda posters had the young, undamaged face.

He even had Amedda send empty air limos around just to make people think the Emperor was out and about and not just shutting himself up in his palace.

>>90454764
>the point was one-upmanship by a author with pretense to fame and talent
What was he even one-upping though? Rax shows up, bosses people around, then dies and doesn't really do much of importance.

>>90454722
Yeah, but that's like a Nazi Wunderwaffe level of retarded, which makes entirely sense for the First Order

>>90454796
>sheev builds a proto type new SSD
>provides to list it on record as such so every one knows

sure sounds like my sheev i guess your right

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>>90454698
It just makes me think of Rax Grissman. I'm an old /sp/artan.

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>>90454837
are you me?

>>90454835
The NR didn't get the list of SSDs from Imperial records. It was just widely known to them through battles and what not.

>>90454241
Much like in real life, you can curtail the line between possible and not possible when it comes to vehicle survivability and come out relatively fine, or utterly shit-fucked. I'm getting the sense this is going into their thinking with new stuff. You could probably roll the dice at orbital speed and skirt through a gravity well, risking the vessel sheering in half, and end up with mild structural damage but otherwise fine. Or for a more relatable situation, fly through a thunderstorm with only some light icing and turbulence, or being struck by lightning and thrown around in extreme winds.
So like you said, it's possible but not advised.

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>>90452517
>The LSG shot it down completely, and the chapter was removed.
What a bunch of stick-in-the-mud, penny-starved, joyless, Mickey Mouse loving cucks.

The LSG, which was forced on Star Wars fans by Disney so they could churn-out shitty movies on the cheap, is a blight. At least Lucas didn't go out of his way to shit on any fan service that didn't adhere to his personal views of canon, or force everything to be pumped out by a Corporate think-tank for easy monetary exploitation.

The next movie, "The Last Wallet", will probably be sucked up by normies and hipster faggots, too.

>>90454808
I wonder when him and Amedda started working together?
I'm guessing even during the time of Episode 1 those two were buddies, given that Amedda sabotaged Valorum, which suited Sheev.

>>90454904
>getting this mad just because HK-47 wasn't canonized
Sounds like you have issues

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If the Eclipse is just a normal SSD I will be very disappointed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6_XBSRVY38

This guy's model would be a lot less special if it was.

>>90454928
Yeah, it had to have been before Episode 1

why is Jabba so dismissive of Luke when he knows his father was the dude who saved Rotta

>>90454555
You know what I want to know about the Eclipse?

Why is it that according to all sources (I know of) it began construction well before the death of the Emperor, and yet it was designed to have enough consumables for 10 years?

I mean why would you build a ship that can survive on its own for 10 years, if you can travel across the entire galaxy in trivial amounts of time, control all of the Galaxy anyway, so you could resupply almost anywhere at anytime?

This massively oversized spaceship with the firepower of a Death Star, in my fiction about people with godlike abilities that battle with swords is highly unrealistic!

>>90452761
This has to be bait. You are pure cancer if you believe this. 99% of the old EU was leagues better than Wendig's trash in every conceivable, even the dumb parts which there weren't that many of. Jesus fuck. Nu-canon is so fucking lame and neutered in general, but the Aftermath trilogy is just plain objectively 0/10 quality material.

Hey lorefags whos the most powerful sith lord in the sw universe?

>>90454970
>Why is Jabba so dismissive of some weirdo with a common slave name?

>>90454970
Because he's a punk kid who showed up going "fear me please, I'm a Jedi! Here's some droids for you, p-please let my friend go?"

Skywalker or not, Jabba's not gonna take a guy like that seriously.

I'll resume my Star Wars Racer Revenge stream, I was busy eating for supper.

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>>90454870
the eclipse is widely known then? im just trying to get a clear picture.

a sentence from the books, any thing really.

>>90455015
Would definitely be Revan, Nihilus, or Bane.

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>>90454904
>Wanting Cuck Wendig to write HK-47
You're delusional. Why can't you just enjoy HK as he was and is in the existing content that's out there, and let it be? That's what I do. If it's decided to let someone bring him in, I'm ok with that, but why do we NEED him back so much that you think Wendig should have shoe horned him in his post ROTJ book? Explain that to me, because I like HK too, which is why I want him done right.

I'm actually glad that Wendig was forbidden to write HK. I'll consider it a win that he didn't get his hands on him.

>>90455068
Fucking this

>>90454957
And of course he must have revealed himself as a Sith either before or after becoming Chancelor.
Man I'd love a book or show just about those two going on a political troll spree.

>>90455060
>>90455068
Definitely these. We don't a hack like him shitting on more great characters. He has already done enough irreparable damage.

>>90454996
In the Darth Vader comics, general Tagge mentions that with the budget and the materials used for the Death Star, the Empire could have created a massive fleet of SSD's instead of a single battlestation. The Eclipse is basiclly a more mobile and dangerous Death Star/SSD hybrid and it was to serve as the Emperor's flagship. I can see why Sheev would want a ship with the firepower of the Death Star and the movement of a SSD.

>>90455015
Sheev.

It's not even up for debate, the way the Rule of Two is structured is literally to make each generation of Sith stronger than the last, with Sheev being the end game.

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>>90454934
>acting like any one can remove hk47 from our heart canon

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>>90454904

>>90455015
Sheev

>>90454938
this video makes my fucking dick hard

>>90455060
Huh, yeah, you're right.

Besides, I haven't even read these fucking books, because they looked like severely radioactive garbage a mile off. Like, "The Elephant's Foot" level toxic radioactive shit.

>>90454904
While I'm glad they didn't let Wendig have free reign to ruin HK-47 and who knows what else, you're not wrong. The story group is fucking cancer and the nu-canon material is so bland, soulless, boring, and shitty because of them policing everything so that they can crank out movies like the very potentially awful Han Solo spinoff that no one wants.

>>90455142
They can't and aren't, that's the point. No one said anyone can't look at or play legends content anymore. Hell, the less these things are forced, the more likely a fan that thing with tact will get a chance to pick it up.

>>90455221
>that no one wants

All the normies are absolutely clamoring over the Han Solo movie.

>>90455221
del rey wasn't certainly any better especially with all the post-NJO trilogies.

>snokes a royal guard
i wonder what happened to all those guys, i can only imagine sheev trusts the royal guard enough to send them out to the unknown regions.

>>90455212
See this is what we need more of in these threads. Honest discourse leading to understanding. We're all gonna make it someday.

>>90454680
kek
That is just so classic sheev

>DISNEY CANON SUCKS!!!
>WHY WON'T THEY MAKE A NEW VERSION OF THIS EU THING THAT I WONT WATCH AND PROCEED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT DUE TO IT NOT BEING THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF THIS THING!?!?
Why the fuck do people do this? Do you really think these super anti-nucanon people would even play a canon version of KOTOR? Of course not. They would complain about Disney bastardizing the lore of KOTOR.

>>90455247
That's not what I'm seeing and hearing. Most people are simply cautiously optimistic because of some of the decent casting decisions like Woody Harrelson and Donald Glover. But most people think a Han Solo movie without Harrison Ford is bad.

Han solo is a boring character and I fucking hate how popular he is

I know this is a cambodian rockclimbing forum but honestly, it activates my almonds knowing who's going to play lando and shit. It sounds like the safest, most bland thing possible.

>>90454077
The Eclipse might be the coolest thing ever designed. It remains me of the Landkreuzer Monster, that German tank way too big to be constructed even by today's standards and ridiculously cost-inefficient, but ridiculously powerful and just plain awesome. It's a shame that EU lore really half-assed its involvement and squandered its potential to be something amazing.

>>90452784
That whole sandpeople level with HK was fun. Slaughter them everytime.

>>90455292
There's a lot of weird doublethink there. Like they swear that canon doesn't matter and refuse to accept the new canon and that anyone who likes it is a DISNEY SHILL MOUSE LOVER but the moment they get any whiff of Revan or HK-47 or Kreia being canon they start begging for it like junkies.

Hell, look what happened with Thrawn. He became canon, and he's behaving in a way consistent to his portrayal in the original Thrawn Trilogy, but they still bitch that he's been ruined.

>>90455292
Literally ALL they have to do is make KotOR 1 and 2 canon, then make a proper KotOR 3. That simple.

>>90455221
>It's another "Everything canon is 'soulless garbage' even though most of the creators are the same people who made my precious EU" episode

Also they're doing a Solo movie because Lucas pitched it to them. Solo is consistently poor selling with merchandise, so that movie isn't just a cash grab either. They would have gone straight to Boba if they were just in it for the money.

Way to not even try to know what youre talking about

>>90455377
Does it even matter if they're canon or not? If they just recanonize them as-is, meaning the exact same games as they were originally released, what changes for you as a fan of them?

>>90455357
im hoping the movie doesnt really focus on him to much, it just more or less fallows him around in some glorious early imperial era shenanigans

>the movie ends with han saving chewbacca

>>90454580
>>90454610
I think that might be a reference to Lucas' early Star Wars script, which had the Emperor being a lazy and incompetent puppet for Vader, the one who led the Empire in actuality.

>>90455424
That would be the best thing. He isn't all that interesting, before the films take place. If it ended on him playing Lando for the Falcon, right before he wins, I could respect that

Rogue Squadron comic when?

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>>90455376
>Hell, look what happened with Thrawn. He became canon, and he's behaving in a way consistent to his portrayal in the original Thrawn Trilogy, but they still bitch that he's been ruined.

People are afraid they'll kill him off at the end just to give the Rebels an easy win like the Grand Inquisitor in season 1 and his two flunkies in season 2. But I think you are overlooking the praise most people had for his depiction in "Through Imperial Eyes" or the Hera episode.

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>Lucas wanted the Empire to essentially be Space Nazis and the Rebellion to be Space Allies.

>Imperial weapons are dolled-up Ally weapons.

>Rebel weapons are dolled-up Nazi weapons.

>>90455414
Because then a significant amount of other EU material is also made canon by association, until eventually the majority of it is back and we will once more have balance. Also, like I said, the only way we get a KotOR 3 is if the first two are once more made fully canon.

>>90455377
But that would contradict the lore of nucanon. People saying 'it's so far back in the timeline it doesn't matter' don't get that 1: that's the very reason why it wouldn't work since the Sith canonically were created around 6,100 BBY, and 2: it absolutely would contradict things since there are constant references to the ancient era that conflict with the events of KOTOR.

The only complaints I understand is the ones about the EU not continuing as a separate canon since it's shitty that we'll never have certain stories resolved.

>>90455058
>revan
>nihilus

Nihilus merely rivaled the ancient sith and revan got his ass kicked by the sith emperor according to TORs expansion right? How are they the most powerful?

>>90452417
>You don't have to accept things as canon.
But they are canon.

>If Wendig's next book says every character is gay, black, and transsexual out of nowhere, then would you believe it?
Disregarding the fact that shit like that would never happen, the movies still exist and would therefore negate that.

>There are a lot of fans who still ignore Disney canon and follow EU lore, and the EU has a lot of freedom to pick and choose what's lore to you and not.
Alright, fine, but that doesn't make the EU canon. It's headcanon to you guys, to call that anything else is disingenuous.

>>90455377
Just headcanon. The EU was designed from the ground up to be something where fans could decide what's real and what isn't. Sure Disney now has their official canon, but nothing's stopping you from believing KOTOR to be part of said canon if you want. That's the beauty and fun of a fandom like Star Wars.

Even if the Mouse never adds him, HK can still be canon to us.