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[Jerry Seinfeld] What's the deaaaal with Volthoom?

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[Jerry Seinfeld] What's the deaaaal with Volthoom?
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Superman Reborn: >>90329403
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Last time, on Green Lantern #20...
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Good job fucking up naming the thread.
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>>90329704
You're right.
I'm done for the night. I've lost my edge.

Support the official release.
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Are sam and jessica even in this issue
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>>90329732
lol
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Alright, that was enough.
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>>90329785
Oh shit. The origin of Volthoom in Power Ring.
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>>90329732
Earth-15 was the "perfect, peaceful world" that Superboy Prime blew up in Countdown. It's still a dead world in the current multiverse, but I guess they're officially retconning how and when it got destroyed.

According to Multiversity the Universe is also home to something called the Cosmic Grail, which the residents of another Universe want to find as it's the key to restoring their own world which suffered a nuclear holocaust. Might be relevant to Volthoom's story. Or not.
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>>90329806

why do I feel like these guys always fuck up everything?
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>>90329824
It could be that the "destroyer pulsar" they're referring to is whatever massive explosion Prime caused to destroy the universe. I don't remember exactly how he did it in Countdown.
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>>90329785
>Brother Power

I'm super happy now.
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Thanks for reading.

Support your local LCS!
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>>90329878
Shit's getting too real.
>>90329886
Looks like one of those chakra artworks.
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>>90329898
>This is not a Rebirth. This is a second death.

What did they mean by this?
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>>90329851
This is a new addition to Lantern Lore. The first seven Green Lanterns were created to defeat and imprison Volthoom. Then the rings were locked away. Presumably this happened before the Manhunters were built, then after the Manhunters went rogue, the Guardians turned back to the rings.
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Batman: >>90329909
Superman: >>90329403
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>>90329732
So he isn't from Earth 3? Surprised.
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>>90329785
Who is Mordru and why is he evil on evil Earth?
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>>90329824
Think the travel lantern is the cosmic grail?
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>>90330090
How do you know he is evil? he just looks like someone evil but is not explicitly stated in this issue, right?
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>>90330090
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordru

Doesn't answer the second part of your question though. Maybe Lords of Chaos exist outside the Multiverse? Maybe he's the one responsible for making Earth-3 the evil Earth.
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>>90329926
>The first seven Green Lanterns
Now Earth has
Hal
Guy
John
Simon
Jessica
Alan
And Kyle.
Hmm
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>>90329886
Good thing Relic let us know they'll run out of light eventually.
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>>90330139
Taken parts of people's souls is evil.
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>>90329785
What's Earth 17?
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>>90330181
oh god, can't we just ignore that like what Venditti does with the other Lantern runs?
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>>90330438
http://www.dccomics.com/characters/earth-17

>History is ripe with threats of utter destruction at the hands of nuclear war. With weapons forever primed and ready to drop at the push of a button, the world is in a delicate balance of peace and all out devastation. On Earth-17, the nuclear button was pushed in 1963 and nothing has been the same since.

>Fifty years after the fallout, Captain Adam Strange and his Atomic Knights of Justice lead an effort to preserve what’s left of Novamerika, while continuing to defend it. On a nuclear-infused planet where monsters, mutations and mad science have become commonplace, these adventurers know the fragile state of mankind sits on a razors edge between rebirth and heartbreak. As if channeling the famed Conquistador stories of old, this brave group of 21st Century adventurers is on a mission to seek out the elusive Cosmic Grail, the only weapon that can defend Earth-17 from a threat worse than any nuclear war—Darkseid the Destroyer.

>Although the road ahead is completely unknown, the quest for the grail must endure in order to rebuild and defend this crumbled world and the still hopeful people who live upon it.

Nice to have a Multiverse Map poster above my dresser for reference.
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>>90330516
>on a mission to seek out the elusive Cosmic Grail
But that's at where Volthoom came from. Talk about missed chances.
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This was extremely well written, but I dunno how I feel about expanding Volthoom's backstory. One of the few things I liked about him initially was how creepy and mysterious he was. His first meeting with the Guardians had a very Prometheus feel to it. I'll probably eat these words later, though
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>>90330706
I like how it straighten out the First Lantern/ Earth 3 Powerring stuff.
Plus I enjoy a good multiverse story anywhere I can get it.
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>>90330165
that actually makes sense
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Rocha's colorist here is the tits. It's got a nice painterly look compared to his previous issues. For comparison.
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>>90330771
Holy fuck, I didn't even know it was the same artist.
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>>90330706
Yeah this definitely is a letdown. Like in his first reveal, he was wearing a modernish astronaut uniform, with a flag that could conceivably be Earth-3's version of America, considering how reversed it is from our own.
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>>90330824
And this is the first time we saw Volthoom's face, and I don't think that the artist fucked up, I think Volthoom looks exactly as creepy as the writer intended.

So... yeah, not really feeling this origin, too trite.
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>>90330824
That's still canon. If you notice he stops at Earth 3 right before and picks up the suit.
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>>90330181
lalalalalalalala can't hear you lalalalalalala
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>>90330181
I thought Kyle fixed that though. Relic's Universe didn't have a White Lantern.
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>>90331032
But Kyle won't be a White for long now, what then
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>>90331032
That was just a refill. The limit and destined to run out is still there.
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>>90331336

I always assumed it could only run out if lanterns used it faster than it was being produced.
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>>90331416
No, Venditti wrote a truly dumb story. There's a finite set amount according to Relic. I don't blame you for skipping that dumb shit and thinking your own thing.
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>>90330181

Already fixed. Volthoom's immortal for the forseeable future
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>>90331492

What if Voltoom travels to Relic's native universe seconds before it runs out of light?
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>>90331492
Kyle can't keep leaving the universe to get more emotions forever. That would just be dumb storytelling...oh wait.
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>>90329732
>Earth 15
>The Earth SBP destroyed in Countdown
>Being destroyed
PRIME TIME!?
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>>90331558
I think Multiversity changed it and had its destruction not Prime related.
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>>90331571
>I think Multiversity changed it

Well I think you're talking out your ass.
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>>90331590
No need to be upset.
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>>90331590

Is the Travel Lantern the Cosmic Grail?
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>>90331601
No need to spout shit when a 3 second google search can prevent it.
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>>90329623
Wait! Where can I read the second part of the Blackest Knights arc?
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>>90331624
Why so mad?
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>>90331644
>gets called out for BS
>goes into damage control "m-mad f-fag..yeah th-that'll show em"

kys
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>>90331672
Calm down dude. You are getting way to upset about nothing.
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>>90331604
it would make the most sense, yeah.

I really hope it is, cause writers never use enough of Morrisons stuff.
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>>90331558
>>90331672
>PRIME TIME
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>>90331708
>Prime shitposts on an albanian wood crafting forum

I'd believe it.
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>tfw all these Prime Time shitposting is just Prime knowing that he's not the main antagonist so he's trying to start shit up
PRIME TIME?
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>>90331708
What is that from?
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>>90331729
real life
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>>90331708
apart from /co/, what boards would he post on?

>>90331729
Legion of three worlds
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>>90330554
Or maybe it's a hint.
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Green Bumperns
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>>90330476

I like to pretend none of that shit ever happened, because it goes completely against the themes of Green Lantern.

Like, the whole point is that willpower is a limitless force. If you can actually RUN OUT of it, then suddenly the whole Corps becomes pointless.

Anyway, what the fuck happens when you 'run out'? Does everyone just lapse into apathy? That shit clearly didn't happen, for one.
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>>90332539

I love GL dearly but that sack of stupid made me stumble around in a stupor and fade out of reading. I still need to truly catch up.
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>>90329768
That's a really odd chart.
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>>90332679

The horror of that one stupid fucking story will be with us forever. It's just so, so stupid.
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>>90329821
Is he even human though. And it's a pretty shitty search if you just go from Earth to Earth and then to Maltus without trying any of the other worlds in the whole multiverse.
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>>90329732
You cheeky bastard. You totally should have gone to bed and made a new thread the next day.
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>>90332896


I still wonder if editorial wanted him to put Johns toys away or if that was his own idea to leave a mark.

Are the Entities still fused with the wall? Does that still need fixing?
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>>90331558
>>90331571
>>90331590
I recall that hand being shown when Krona looked at before the big bang being volthoom's so there's no logical conundrums here as to how Volthoom can be from Earth 15. He is simply from the Earth 15 before the Big Bang on Earth 15.
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>>90329623
When will the Green Lanterns fight an enemy that isn't all about "ring shit"?
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>>90329694
>Hal Jordan couldn't beat me.
Uh okay?

Thanks for the Storytime Norrin
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>>90333145
yeah I thought that was a little weird.

It was Hal's whole plan, he set it up, he controlled Nekron and none of it would have happened without him.

Whole thing was pretty clearly a case of 'Hal Jordan beat the shit out of him'.
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>>90330165

If this is preemptive set up for rolling Alan back into the mix of the Earth Lanterns god damn would Rebirth already have some serious pay off.

If Alan is an Alan with no history outside of the 40's, will he say casually racist but well meaning things to Simon, Jessica, and John?
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>>90329858
You try not fucking up for 10 billion years.
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>>90333145
>>90333237
A villain? Lying? Psshaw. That's crazy talk.
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>>90333237
Ill post the issue because it is great and because Fuck Volthoom
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>>90333261
I feel like being dead makes you a tad bit honest.
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>>90329886
This means Volthoom and Cyborg Superman have something to bond over, with the Anti-Monitor
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>>90333591
Anti-Monitor got killed dude, he got turned to the black central core battery
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>>90333621
he came back for that terrible Darkseid War series.

God I hated what that did to the Anti-Monitor. It's on par with the emotional reservoir bullshit.
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>>90330090
Mordru is a giant cock no matter where and when he shows up. Classic long-standing LOSH villain who Johns also used extensively in his first volume of JSA, particularly contra Dr. Fate.
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>>90333666
Trips. Yeah, he came back since the universe got rebooted but my point is that he can die and not be revive like Cyborg, Prime and Volthoom
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Sinestro spazzing out more when Hal is getting fucked than his planet blowing up.
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>>90333667
can you tell me what book I'm thinking of? I can't remember what specifically but there's an arc where they fight Mordru and they show him that in the future he's turned into this old crazy person who fights the Legion of Superheroes
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>>90334061
The only book I know where Mordru shows is JSA where they were fighting Kobra
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>>90333897
>>90333920
>>90333949
>>90333971
>>90334010


This whole sequence is amazing.
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>>90329694
>record scratch
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>>90334145
It only gets better.
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>You are a nothing
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>>90334369
gets me every time
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GET AWAY FROM HIM CAROL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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>I HAVE NOTHING LEFT
HAL YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID HE STILL HAS YOU
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>>90334559
>I care about saving you

Oh how the ships sail
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>>90334584
This Page gets me all the time, took like 3-4 years for us to get the answer
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>>90334369

Pages where people return to the Corps with a smirk are always great.
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>>90334851

This is only acceptable if he returns home to Ice.
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>>90334851
>warrior symbol on his jacket

noice
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>>90334908
Yeah it's pretty sad how he became a loner and how John fucks his brainwashed brown waifu
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>>90334978
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>>90334978

I can honestly see he and Ice being happy, but instead of doing household shit he fucks off to space bars for a few hours.

The Fatality thing is so.... so fucking comic weird I kind of like it.
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>>90335010

God fuck Venditti. It's like he set out to immediately wreck this shit.
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>>90335048
> No clear Tom, Ollie, and Barry in the pews.

Eh
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>>90335038
Is ice even in new52? I always liked Ice since she was the only woman that Guy really loved (and the gypsy chick Hal fucked.) Fatality woke out of the brainwash
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>>90335149
I dont think Ollie and Hal are friends post FP which is sad, since Hard traveling heroes was one of my favorite moments and when Ollie finds Hal's ring in Archer's quest
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>>90334978
kyle rayner was jesus? great, he was my first and favorite lantern.
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>>90335188
>was

What do you mean 'was'

It's basically his entire character and history.
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>>90335155

She is, but they downplayed to forgot about her and Guy.

Didn't know about Fatality. I found it interesting how she knew about the brainwashing but was okay with it.
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The end
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>>90329694
>not even Hall Jordan
Nigga, did you sleep though that ass wooping. Half being there is the entire reason you lost!
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>>90335213
thanks mate
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>>90335212
In the later issues of the corps book it was revealed that John was fucking a Durlan and Fatality was not okay with fucking her planets killer.

Bring back Ice but then Guy is always in Space. Fuck.

>>90335209
Solicits say that Kyle is going back Green. There were 2 threads about it
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>>90335213
>Orange Lanterns didn't do shit

Still mad. Glad we got that 12 issue Larfleeze series.
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>>90335290
but what powerup will he get?

Ion again?

Kyle ain't Kyle unless he's a special snowflake.
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>>90335290
>That John/Fatality thing.

That's just fucking stupid.

So much of Venditti needs retconning.
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>>90335396
>Venditti
Venditti himself needs a retcon punch straight from Superboy Prime.
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>>90335384
Ion is dead and Hal might be new Will entity/Guardian, Kyle doesnt need a power up desu, He was great during Gleason's corp run with Guy.

>>90335396
John/Fatality was Johns, Vendetti made it so they broke up.
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>>90335188
>kyle rayner was jesus? great, he was my first and favorite lantern.

My are brother
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>>90329623
>[Jerry Seinfeld] What's the deaaaal with
Jerry Seinfeld never actually said that at any time other in jokes where he's making fun of other observational comedians
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>>90334081
made a wallpaper
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>>90335751
Pretty good man. Just waiting for Sinestro to become crisis level being and Hal just goes wild
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>>90335396
John/Fatality never made sense in the first place so I'm glad that shit got ruined.
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>>90336086

It made semse. It was also a bit fucked up.
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>>90330438
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>>90331032
I'm hoping that one day, someone (maybe even Vendetti himself, since he seems better in HJatGLC) retcons it with a simple "Yeah, Relic was wrong.
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>>90337519
He basically already did when Hal and his brother were drinking. Jim just tells him to not give a shit and keep saving the universe.
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>>90337551

That still leaves the entities stuck. They need to be rescued, and Relic revealed to be a delusional madman.
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>>90337779
Relic just needs to do what he was doing in Futures End. Not giving a shit about anything and just doing science.
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>>90329623
Nice
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what's the inevitable crossover with hal & the glc gonna be about?
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>>90329785
How did this guy go from writing his shitty guardians to complementing the multiversity.
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>>90339786
Didio got him on a workout routine.
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>>90339786
>>90339794

This is Humphries, not Venditti. Still, it's career best.
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Man I am so happy to see GL stories being really good for the first time in a long time. Between this and Supes, Rebirth has really been fantastic. All the throwbacks to old shit I barely remember reading these days makes me want to go back and just re-read all of GL again.
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>>90333100
I thought the hand Krona saw was the Anti-Monitor's?
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>>90339898
He's referring to Dogfucker's work on Star-Lord and GotG: Black Vortex. OOGA CHAKA
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>>90329710
>yup, thats me, you are probably wondering how i got here
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>>90340530
Makes me think his Marvel work was far more editorially mandated.
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>>90341490
It seems more like DC has been really trying to pull the entire GL line around. I mean look at Venditti, he's come a long fucking way.
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inks and colors for this issue is beyond great

really elevates an already very good work

impressed by this issue
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>>90329785
Did editorial lift some kind of embargo on the Multiverse or something?

It seems like we've gone from no one ever referencing it to everybody referencing it at the same time.
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>>90340464
In the universe its a hand. But the watching ut only had voolthoom smash.

The multiverse was already always existing.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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