>TKJ animated movie has barbara/bruce >everyone flips their

>Lego Batman Movie has barbara/bruce

It doesn't though

/co/ doesn't actually care, /co/ just thinks it's a fucking comedy genius by pretending to be offended at things.

/co/ DESERVES horrible things.

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>>90277617
literally every time bruce and barbara run into each other they do a purposefully played up "love vision" thing

It's one shirt-removal from being just as explicit as TKJ was.

>>90277582
>I didn't see the movie but I'm going to bitch about it anyway

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>>90277663
I think you may want to re-read that OP there, champ.

>>90277582
>explain yourselves you fucking hypocrites.
As a superhero, one is expected to adhere to certain mores, such as, not fucking your sidekick.

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>>90277692
No no no, you all said it was wrong because of the age difference and because she was his friend's daughter. None of this celibacy nonsense.

Admit it, you fags were just looking to shit on TKJ as much as possible and since the opening segment wasn't enshrined in a popular book you wouldn't lose cred by attacking it.

>>90277650
No, it's an entire tone shift that separates the two. One is a comedy, the other is playing like it's serious character development.

>you post a thread
>*crickets chirping*

>>90277758
>No no no, you all said it was wrong because of the age difference and because she was his friend's daughter. None of this celibacy nonsense.
Hey, I made no mention of age difference or her knowing Gordon.

I just think fucking your sidekick is kinda like fucking a subordinate at your job. Not illegal, but unethical and prone to leading to unpleasant complications.

>>90277582
It's the fucking Lego Batman movie. The moment you take it seriously you've already lost.

The Killing Joke however, you don't fuck with The Killing Joke.

One has them fuck on a rooftop, the other is legos for kids.

Gee, i dunno OP.

>>90277582
>>90277650
Wasn't it a joke in the end?

>>90277582
>in Lego Batman Bruce/Barbara is a one sided crush who is played for comedy and she openly rejects him
>in TKJ Bruce/Barbara is a real relationship played for drama and they have sex on a rooftop
All clear now?

>>90277582
It's a Lego movie, one where she's the police commissioner an adult instead of Batman's best friend's daughter.

If you got Barbara/Bruce out of that movie I feel really bad for you and your lonely life.

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>>90277908
>One has them fuck on a rooftop
Yeah check out this rated XXX scene so fucking dirty so much more explicit mods plz don't ban

1. Lego Batman's not meant to be taken seriously at all.

2. Lego Batman has a crush on Barbara, but she never reciprocates at all, even by the end of the movie. It's not a real relationship.

3. Lego Barbara is already an adult, and not someone Batman's known since she was a teenager and acted like a father figure towards. Even if they did engage in Lego sex, it wouldn't carry the same creepy implications as in The Killing Joke.

>>90277582
Because it's a kid's comedy.

>>90277984
You realize she's both of those things, right?

The only difference between TKJ barbara and lego barbara is the position as police commissioner.

If you want to get autistic about it (and I know you do) lego batman has been operating since at least the 70's.

>>90278068
Nope. The movie implies that Lego Batman's been at it since 1939, just like the real thing.

He has aged phenomenally.

>>90278086
>The movie implies that Lego Batman's been at it since 1939
It also directly implies a good portion of that was Alfred

>>90278038
Are you implying that they didn't fuck on the rooftop anon?

>>90277582
Batman:Damian you new mom is Babara.
Damian:......................................

>>90278101
>It also directly implies a good portion of that was Alfred
???

>>90278130
I think he's talking about how Alfred had Adam West's suit.

But Alfred also mentioned Batman having that really weird phase in 1966.

>>90278130
he had the suit and made references to being the adam west batman

>>90278068
>The only difference between TKJ barbara and lego barbara is the position as police commissioner.
Shit guys I think OP might be a legit retard.

>>90277582
One is a comedy movie for kids where the character behave nothing like themselves to start with and the other was supposed to be an adaptation of The Killing Joke.

>>90278106
No, I'm saying that the movie didn't show a sex scene like you niggers keep saying.

The sex is implied.

It's also far less creepy than a Batman who's been operating since the 30's hitting on a 20-something and making her into the batmom in his batfamily

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>>90278184
>where the character behave nothing like themselves
so you don't read comics then

>>90278063
>is not srs!
>she no reciprocate!
I thought you guys said the problem was that finding your friend's daughter attractive is creepy. Changing your mind now that it has to be on her end to be fucked up? How does that make sense?

Also
>Batman
>father figure to barbara
lol wat
she has a father

>>90278192
Look, the animated killing joke was bad. Just accept it. Maybe if the filler had been a future story about Barbara as Oracle, that would have been interesting, but what we got was bad, regardless of you comparing it to a kids movie.

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Lego Batman 2017 is just as gross and perverted and evil as TKJ was, it's sickening and I can't believe we're exposing our children to this madness.

My little girl Stephanie is only 8 and after seeing the lego movie she wants to fuck my friend Bill.

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>>90278344
>bit exists to familiarize people with Barbara, explain her quitting as batgirl, and provide an emotional payoff to her getting shot at the beginning of TKJ
>"they should've made it her as Oracle!"

>>90278192
>It's also far less creepy than a Batman who's been operating since the 30's hitting on a 20-something and making her into the batmom in his batfamily
No it's not.

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>>90277582
Bruce in Lego Batman has a silly little crush on Barbs and they don't even get together in the end. Now calm your autism.

>>90278397
It took thirty minites and it had nothing to do with TKJ

There's a difference between "gross played as comedy" and "gross to make you intentionally uncomfortable"

>>90278192
>I'm saying that the movie didn't show a sex scene like you niggers keep saying.
Except nobody said that anon.
>>90277908
>one has them fuck on a rooftop

>>90278397
She quit being Batgirl because she was shot and paralyzed by the joker, fuckwit. End of explanation

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Is there anymore damaging ship than babsxbruce,it just throws a screw driver in a family dynamic that will never not be squicky

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>Taking the Lego Batman Movie seriously
Its a fucking comedy movie and was played up for laughs. Calm down OP

>>90278460
>it had nothing to do with TKJ
Not only was it one giant parallel of TKJ, without it there is zero impact to the Joker shooting Barbara at the beginning of the story.

Movies are not comic books and the director can't just assume an emotional connection between the audience and a character, it needs to be established.

>>90277650
>literally every time bruce and barbara run into each other they do a purposefully played up "love vision" thing
So? It was one-sided
One person isn't a romantic relationship

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>>90278562
>She quit being Batgirl because she was shot and paralyzed by the joker

>>90278587
You know under the red hood gave the audience an emotional connection with Jason by simply giving in about 10 minutes of exposition and character reaction yet it worked,TKJ made Barbara insufferable for 30 minutes and Barbara getting shot comes of far more as "finally get the plot rolling" than "oh no poor Babs"

>>90278587
Making Barbara fuck Bruce for heightened emotional tension when his archnemesis cripples her is cheap, and devalues her as a character. Bitch got fridged.

One's a joke that doesn't go anywhere important where as the real romance is between Joker and Batman the other was a scene in the movie that not only was never in the comic, but also felt extremely out of place and fueled Bruce Tim's fetish

>Stop not liking my ship REEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>90278635
>anything about under the red hood working

>>90278397
>familiarize people with Barbara.
But they didn't even do that, they just had her thirsty for Batman's dick.
>gave her a reason for quitting as Batgirl
Because Batman didn't call her back and apparently getting fucked by Batman is the only reason to be Batgirl.
>provide emotional payoff to her getting shot.
Except they fucked up TKJ adaptation.

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>>90278658
>>OP

>>90278645
>Making Barbara fuck Bruce for heightened emotional tension
That's not what anon said or what that scene was for.

The entire opening story, which is from Barbara's perspective, is there to establish a connection between her and the audience. It wasn't 30 minutes of batman running around then fucking batgirl.

Barbara fucks bruce because she's spinning out of control due to fighting Paris; no one but the big bad bat can emotionally handle the shit they do

>>90278587
I fail to understand how TKJ works with a comic audience but not a movie audience. I assume anyone who picked up the movie would have some understanding with Batgirl. Even if they didn't, they didn't have to add a romantic subplot. She can be her own character who's a crime fighting vigilante without fucking somebody.

>>90278667
>But they didn't even do that, they just had her thirsty for Batman's dick.
Cool, so you didn't even watch the movie.
>she quit because batman didn't call her back
lol wat
>they fucked up the TKJ adaptation
they fucked up the VA direction, sure, but that has nothing to do with anything

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>>90278716
>romantic subplot
Holy shit

Did none of you actually watch the TKJ movie? Did you just read about it on tumblr?
Pic related literally has more romance

>>90278707
But even Timm said it was a long on-going romantic attraction between the two. Which is madness because even if Babs expressed romantic attraction to Batman ONCE, he never felt that way about her. It's not just damaging for her character, it's damaging for his. This is Barbara Gordon, protege and daughter of his best friend. He can't fuck Barbara Gordon.

>>90278766
Call it what you want, they banged, and it affected Barbara in the movie.

>>90278781
>but muh timm said in an interview about his headcanon!

>This is Barbara Gordon, protege and daughter of his best friend
Tell that to the apparently degenerate Lego movie

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>>90278766
So all the drama with Barbara lusting after Bruce and whining to her gay co worker before ultimately banging him and getting rejected WASNT a subplot?

>>90278804
>they banged, it effected barbara
No, barbara was emotionally compromised and as a result they banged. You have it backwards.

>>90278766
>The entire first half hour of the movie wasn't a subplot

>>90278825
But it's still a subplot. It may not be "romantic" but she wanted that Batcock and it caused drama.

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>>90278707
So Barbara quitting heroics because of romance bullshit and creepy villians(the shit ren year old robins manage) is more conpelling and interesting than a bright young hero getting gunned down in her prime?

>>90278599
>One person isn't a romantic relationship
Says you!

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>>90278812
>3 lines now make a subplot
I know you fags really want the opening short to be all about fucking, but it's really not.

A hammer can only see nails, and I guess a virgin can only see sex

>>90277758
>None of this celibacy nonsense.
I think Batman should be celibate but unfortunately a bunch of perverts sullied his name by claiming he was a homosexual. Disgusting.

Bruce literally said that their relationship is totally platonic, you morons. Do people really care about him having boner for Barbara who looks and sounds as old as him and wasn't sidekick and crush of his protege?

>>90278707
The entire opening story is about Batman's dick.
>Barbara becomes Batgirl cause she's horny for Batman.
>Barbara quits being Batgirl because Batman won't fuck her again.
>we should really feel bad that barbara got shot because Batman fucked her.

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>>90278857
>So Barbara quitting heroics because of romance bullshit
>>90278833
>the entire first half hour was based around her batlust
>>90278854
>she wanted the batcock and it caused drama
This is getting really fucking funny, especially because what they did with that short as a parallel to TKJ was so fucking transparent

>>90278599
My waifu pillow and I disagree

>>90278871
I'm confused, what's your argument here? That the first act of the movie didn't mess with the characterization of Bruce or Barbara or devalue them as characters? Please elaborate how.

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>>90278916
>this is how horny losers see the world

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>>90278871
Seriously in your mind her listing after Bruce constantly,bringing up her frustration at it on her coworker,some random couple and later Bruce TWICE once via wallow talker the other in person ISNT a sub plot to you?

>>90278917
>what they did with that short as a parallel to TKJ was so fucking transparent
So transparent it's not even there.

>>90278917
How so? Correct me, if I'm wrong.

>>90278950
Seriously in your mind all of Barbara's emotional problems are a result of wanting to fuck Bruce and not the intense physical and emotional torture that came with being batgirl and fighting franz as a parallel to the insanity Batman descended into in order to fight Joker?

That ISN'T pathetic to you?

>>90277758
Barbara was a grown ass woman already and Gordon wasn't his friend in this, I don't even remember Batman ever even talking to Gordon.

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>>90278980
>TKJ
-Batman and Joker are both fucking nuts because of MUH ONE BAD DAY
-Batman is nuts but part of his being nuts is that he can't break the killing rule ever
>intro
-Barbara has a joker-analogue villain
-Barbara is going nuts
-Barbara nearly breaks the no-killing rule and quits because she's not the right kind of nuts to be a bat

It's not hard

The most important question is - Why Lego Barbara isn't into Bruce Wayne, who is totally awesome and handsoime billioner, while Bruce who's fucking top lego models every weekend is into some random police girl?

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>>90278993
First off I'm not denying that franz wasn't his own subplot,the parallels were about as subtle as the usual Azzerelo work.The problem is half that melodrama about the relationship really bogged down the story claiming it wasn't wasted time is BS,and WHAT drama about the difficulties of keeping up physically to be batgirl,that isn't even slightly hinted at.The whole movie was BS,if your asking people why there bothered by the Babs/Bruce relationship don't get triggered when they complain about it

>>90279082
Because Bruce is an evil degenerate who only wants to fuck her because she's his best friend's daughter

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>>90279121
>First off I'm not denying that franz wasn't his own subplot
stopped reading there

you don't know what a subplot is

>>90277627
/thread

>>90278950
It was just sex, for Gods sake!

>>90279196
Was it though Babs? WAS IT?

>>90279150
(Franz wants to take over his dad's business--gang issue entail---Barbara conflicts with Franz inspite Bruce's warnings,Franz takes a liking to her creeping her out--this climaxes at the dock when Barbara unleashes all her frustration on him)Itd a mini plot that ties into the story,what part of it isn't a subplot?

>>90278240
She had two dads, anon. It's 2017, get with it

OH MY GOD THIS IS FUCKING DISGUSTING

LOOK AT THIS BRUCE IS LOOKING AT HER AND THERE ARE HEARTS

THAT'S YOUR FRIENDS DAUGHTER YOU SICK FUCK YOU'RE RUINING HER CHARACTER AS A STRONG INDEPENDENT BATWOMAN WHO DON'T NEED NO BATMAN NOW SHE IS ONLY DEFINED BY SEX WITH BATMAN BECAUSE I DON'T GET SEX IRL

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>>90279256
PIC WAS SO DIRTY AND DISGUSTING 4CHAN REJECTED IT I HAD TO EDIT

>>90279241
Franz wasn't a subplot.
He was just the plot.

u r dum

>>90278240
Barbara's favorite DVD collection is when Ira Billings went back in time to save the future and hypnotized Gordon and Batman for Livewire to work with him.
>"Gotham's Two Dirty Dick Daddy's"\ the 23 part series

They make a great couple. Bruce needs someone who can accept that he's Batman first and foremost, and he's pretty much the only person who can measure up to Barbara's father.

>>90279292
THE.PLOT.OF.THE.KILLING.JOKE.IS JOKERS ORIGIN AND RELATIONSHIP WITH BATMAN NOT FUCKING PARIS FRANZ

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>>90279372
>the plot of the killing joke
is separate from the plot of the opening short you mong

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>>90279372
The joke in that scene is your planet is going to die neckbeard.

>>90279060
>Barbara has a joker-analogue villain
Franz is not Batgirl's joker.
>Barbara is going nuts
Because Batman won't date her.
-Barbara nearly breaks the no-killing rule and quits because she's not the right kind of nuts to be a bat
That's sexist but I'm not surpised considering Tumm and Azarello.

>>90279389
If someone asks you about what the plot of the killin joke is you talk about joker and batman,no matter how long and contrived it is Franz isn't his own movie,it isn't it's own story,it's a small story connecting to te overall narrative,a subplot if you will numbskull

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>>90279432

>>90277650
>making eyes at each other is the same as fucking on roof
found the woman.

>>90277582
>*crickets chirping*

*unseathes katana*

>>90279389
>>90279410
>is Paris Franz a good character
No he isn't, he's a complete waste of space and all this sounds like Azarello's bullshit.

>>90279389
But it took up a third of the movie.

>>90279410
If someone asks what the plot of watchmen is do you say Rorshach and a bunc of retired heroes investigate a murder conspiracy or do you claim the Minute men's backstory is the main plot.Yed because one is a plot,the other is subplot.The same as the franz/Barbara stuff builds into the main plot of joker/Bruce.the only diff is it's a bad subplot

>>90277627
No no and fucking no, /tv/. As comic fans, we are prone to argue about stupid things. Incredibly stupid, inane and asinine things.

It's fun. I have no idea why it's fun, but it is. So, we will argue about the ethics of shtoinking your sidekick and whether or not Franz is a subplot.

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>>90279436
Are you really so retarded that you can't tell where a self-contained short ends and the adaptation of TKJ begins?

>>90279532
Oh so now backstory to get te audience to care about Barbara is it's own short,nice goal posting anon

>>90277582
The Lego Batman Movie is far more degenerate than TKJ.

>a young boy ripping off his pants for his father
>outright antireligious nihilism with the pit under the city
>bestiality between Ivy and the penguins
>egghead bukkakes the batsignal and a female detective
>gay relationship between batman and joker

>>90279587
I don't think you know what moving the goal posts is.

Mainly because you just called it goalposting

>>90279658
Barbara and Bruce isn't bad>>>>Okay but it wasn't that bad>>>it was more than just that it was also about franz and shit as that was good>>>>The Barbara stuff was the main plot>>>lol what's a subplot>>>Look it wasn't even part of the movie just a short!!!

>>90279532
It's not a self-contained short tho.

>>90277582
Batman and Barbara fucking didn't ruin the Killing Joke movie.
The Killing Joke movie was a fucking train-wreck to begin with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xRDiUD1a8c

>>90279389
>>90279532
But it still is in the movie. You can't just ignore one third of the movie. This is stupid.

>>90277758
I did no such thing.

That's the thing about anonymity, you can't just paint the entire board with the same brush when most people just breezed on past these threads.

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>>90279724
>>90279731
>>90279790
It's ok guys, these days there are plenty of resources for special people

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>>90277582
I mean sure if you want to write your point in the broadest terms possible to make it seem like there's a correlation. For example

>DKR has Bane speak with a funny voice
>It's stupid, it ruins the tone, it's unfaithful to the character
>Lego Batman has Bane speak with a funny voice
>*crickets*

>>90278730
>Cool, so you didn't even watch the movie.
Are you saying that Barbara didn't have an attraction to Batman?
>lol wut
Batman standing her up affected her more than any shitty OC joker analogue did.

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Can we talk about Joker's laughter from TKJ?
In the original comic, it's supposed to be loud and over-the-top, hence why it covers all the background.
In the movie, he doesn't even laugh. He... silently caughs in some way that slightly resembles laughter?
Yes I know Hammil is old, but his final laughter still was decent. And it still doesn't change the fact that the movie laughter is total shit.

>>90279825
How is it self-contained?

>>90279858
the VA direction for killing joke was terrible, that's about all there is to it

>>90277582
She's a platonic coworker buddy, who's a girl, but just a friend.

>>90279724
>lol what's a subplot
Subplot is a secondary plot that's present throughout all the movie. Not through its first part and gets completely dropped then.
How is this "subplot" connected to Barbara getting crippled at all?

>>90279858
Also Hammil missed the whole point of the last joke. It supposed to be pronounced slowly and almost in the crying tone. He just delivered it as fast as possible to get money check and get back to play in SW shit.

>>90279825
If it's a self-contained short then why did it eat up a third of TKJ running time?

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>>90279941
>why did a short with an explicit emotional purpose for the main story come before the main story

>>90279916
Answer these questions first anon.
>>90279941
>>90279869

>>90279990
Then it's not self-contained is it?

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>>90277582
DAILY REMINDER::::: the director of Lego Batman is directing The NightWing movie
The events of Lego Batman is how dick Grayson remembers his early life as he plays with his Lego set in his apartment (he has full scale model of gotham made out of Legos)

The opening 10 minutes of The live action night wing movie will be a flash back to his Origin done in Lego

NightWing just imagined the Bruce liked Batgirl (but it's not necessarily true)

>>90279991
I'm different anon. I don't think that it was self-contained or that is was a subplot. It was shit, plain and simple.
>>90279990
>with an explicit emotional purpose
What IS the purpose?

>>90280038
that actually sounds pretty cool

>>90280046
>what is the purpose
To feel bad that Barabara gets shot I guess.

>>90280038
NightWing just imagined the Bruce liked Batgirl (but it's not necessarily true)

While we see shadows on a rooftop going hog wild.

>>90280144
we don't need half an hour of Bruce's parents' normal lives shown to us in Year One or Batman Begins to feel sorry for them

>>90280180
You don't feel sorry for his parents, dipshit, you feel sorry for Bruce

Is everyone on /co/ an emotional invalid?

>>90277582
>explain yourselves you fucking hypocrites.
Killing Joke was an horrible adaptation that not only added unnecessary filler(Barbara scenes), but also removed and or over looked important story elements(Jack's wife dying) for examples?

>>90277582
Haven't watched lego batman, but if I had to guess, people are willing to tolerate stupid shit in things they like over things they don't.

>>90280163
thats probably how Dick remebers it

>>90279928
The actor does what the voice director tells them. They deliberately tried to make Joker sound as less-sympathetic as possible (e.g. the "why aren't you laughing" question became angry instead of sad)

>>90280196
yes exactly. just like Batman isn't the story of his parents, KJ isn't the story of Barbara. these are not the stories of victims, but of people around them. that's why we don't need half an hour of filler.

>>90279870
Andrea Romano retiring was a mistake

>>90280110
Thanks I work at Warner brothers

>>90279928
>>90280691
I wanna say it's bad directing, but Hamill has been doing this shit for almost 30 years and is by far and away the fan and industry favorite. He was probably directing himself and just phoned it in.

>>90280694
I'm sorry that you seem to not understand story structure as it pertains to movies.

>>90277582
It was very one-sided on Bruce's part.

>>90277650
>Platonic Partner

They state this

>>90281378
>IT WAS JUST SEX BRUCE

they state this

>>90277650
Except:
>Bruce and Barbara are much closer in age in the Lego Batman Movie
>Bruce and Barbara don't have a previously established relationship in Lego Batman
>Lego Batman is a comedy, with some characters deliberately different from their usual portrayals for the sake of humour

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>>90281784
>Bruce and Barbara are much closer in age in the Lego Batman Movie
Barbara is at most in her late 20's. Bruce Wayne is over 70.
>Bruce and Barbara don't have a previously established relationship
She is his friend's daughter.
>it's a comedy
And that makes it ok to fuck your friend's daughter?

It wasn't in the killing joke comic so why is it in the killing joke movie?

Context of the anger is everything you autistic cretin.

>>90278063
>Lego sex
Hahahaha! that just sounds so funny

>>90281849
>Bruce Wayne is over 70
Mentally and physically he seems like a 20 year old. Sure, there's a couple of meta-jokes based off older installations in the Bat-franchise, but there are no implications that they should be taken as more than jokes. Again, it's a comedy, the laws of reality are a little malleable.
>She is his friend's daughter
Is she? There's no friendship ever shown between Bruce and Jim, and he doesn't seem to have ever met her before.

>lego movies
You guys watch toy channels on Youtube, don't you?

>>90281987
>things I don't like were just jokes but things I do were canon

>>90279532
>a self-contained short
Holy shit, not even the most avid defenders of TKJ would call it that

>>90277582
Because it doesn't.

Bruce is crushing on an aged up Barbara who never reciprocates.

In all honesty the film could have done without it since it doesn't really tie in to anything other than as a gag but it's harmless.

>>90281981
I remember one of the first Lego Movie fanfic out there was a fic with Lord Buisness literally pegging Good Cop/Bad Cop.

>>90282302
>Bruce is crushing on an aged up Barbara
Bruce himself is aged up significantly farther than Barbara, who was at least 21 in the TKJ short

>who never reciprocates
So it's ok to want to fuck your friend's daughter if she doesn't want to fuck you? Cool mental gymnastics.

>>90282405
Dude just go watch the fucking movie.

They're lego figures.
Fine, Batman is 70+. Then Barbara is 50 with that logic. Because they as characters are literally that age.

>So it's ok to want to fuck your friend's daughter if she doesn't want to fuck you?
I don't know, wouldn't consider it any of my business.
Gordon and Bruce aren't friends in this movie so no relevancy.

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>>90282614
>implying I didn't watch the movie
>implying it wasn't the best batman movie in years
>implying that makes you any less of a little bitch hypocrite

>>90281327
I'm sorry that you seem to not understand that Barbara Gordon as Batgirl doesn't have anything to do with what happens in the Killing Joke.

>>90281327
Like not understanding that neither Batman nor Barbara are the main characters in TKJ and switching the main character midway into your movie?

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>>90283173
>Like not understanding that neither Batman nor Barbara are the main characters in TKJ
lolwat
>and switching the main character midway into your movie <end of sentence goes here
LOL WAT

>>90282712
Weren't paying much attention weren't you?

>>90277582
>a one-sided crush is equal to an awkward one-night-stand with cringe worthy squabbles that follow
You've never actually been in a relationship, have you?

>>90277582
>TKJ
>Shoe-horns a completely fabricated side-plot that adds little to the story and takes up a third of the plot
>Basically just Timm forcing his awful ship that everyone thinks is weird

>Lego Batman
>Is mostly played as a joke and is reciprocated by Barbara
>Less of an age gap between Bruce and Barbara
>Writer or director (forget which one) is vocal about disliking the ship

It's two completely different situations.

>>90283207
What?
The structure of the sentence was: "Like not understanding that <dependent clause> and switching the main character?"
>when you have trouble understanding English but try to look smart

>>90277582
The real romance is the joker and batman you PHILISTINE

>>90283695
If you had used the word "or" instead of "and" your sentence would've made grammatical sense.

But you didn't, so it didn't.

Because nothing ever came of it and it didn't eat up the entire first half of a completely unrelated story?

>>90283785
That's a different dude than me (anon who wrote the "incomprehensible" post), but okay.

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>>90283838
As if we needed further proof that OP is a genius and everyone else is fags, tripfags disagree with OP.

>>90283921
Jesus Christ OP, that's just fucking pathetic.

>>90277650
I realize you're probably 14 and think this whole girls thing is equally icky across the board, but there is a vast gulf between a 30something man being physically attracted to a 30something woman, and a teenaged/20something woman risking her life as a vigilante and generally being a drama bitch just to seduce an older man.

>>90283921
>tripfags agree with you
Are you sure you aren't the wrong one?

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>>90284104
>think this whole girls thing is equally icky
You're a bit special if that's what you're getting from this thread

>>90284021
Why'd you take off your trip, friend?

>>90284158
Trump, is that you?

Get your alternative facts outta here

>>90277873
>I just think fucking your sidekick is kinda like fucking a subordinate at your job. Not illegal, but unethical and prone to leading to unpleasant complications.
This. It's a fucked up abuse of what has to be perceived as a platonic mentor-apprentice relationship, otherwise you lead to shit like Wertham's "Seduction of the Innocent". Moral guardians are already going to be arguing that Batman having sidekicks at all is corrupting to the little chilluns' moral fiber, you don't need to support their argument by letting stupid parents buy little Timmy a Batman movie and then seeing full penetrative sex on-screen.

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>>90277582
>implying i wasnt mad about that too

>>90284174
Take me with you space-anti-hitlerina

>>90278240
>I thought you guys said the problem was that finding your friend's daughter attractive is creepy. Changing your mind now that it has to be on her end to be fucked up? How does that make sense?
It's creepy if your friend's daughter is 10-20 years your junior, yeah. I'm 28 but I'd still feel like a creep for hitting on an 18 year old girl, yeah she's technically legal, but those 10 years of real life experience make a big difference, so I'd still feel like I was basically dating a dumb kid. In TLBM, Barbara is much closer to Bruce's age, Gordon is accordingly older and notably the film makes his relationship with Batman just a very impersonal switch-flipping. We don't get any indication that they're close in this universe, cuz yeah, then it would be creepy to hit on Jim's daughter.

Also, again, Bruce first met this Babs as an adult. In the comics, Batman knew her since she was a young girl and that's where TKJ was coming from.

>>90278448
Someone should really do a "rape the Joker" edit of that.

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>>90284792
>seeing full penetrative sex on-screen.
yeah look at the nasty shit in >>90278038
look at that full penetrative on-screen sex. So dirty.

>>90285098
>In TLBM, Barbara is much closer to Bruce's age
Not even remotely. In TLBM Bruce is canonically at least 70 years old.

>>90285218
Oh, so you're autistic.

I bet you think Bugs Bunny is robbing the rabbit hole by openly lusting after Lola Bunny in Space Jam, right? Cuz he's also 70something and she's literally only as old as that movie?

>>90285372
They literally make a joke that he's been operating since the 1940's.

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>>90285401
The key part of that sentence is
>make a joke
>make
>a
>j o k e
>j
>o
>k
>e
It's okay anon, with the right medication, steady therapy and a corrective diet, even autismos can live happy, fulfilling lives.

>>90285444
I'm not the same anon you replied to.

You know I am honestly surprised that they didn't take a stab at Frank Miller in the movie. Considering how big of a punching bag he is.

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So will the next film have lego Stephanie Brown or Cass Cain?

Condiment King?

>>90285599
What even happened to Dick Hammersmith? I haven't seen art from him in years.

>>90277582
TKJ shoehorned Babs as the main character with the whole "they fucked" thing as a huge centre point pivital to the entire film, making it a boring mess to watch.

Lego Batman is playing up the "Love Vision" as a parody of TKJ and all the backlash it caused.

In retard terms

TKJ = Main story point
TLB = Joke

>>90286121
I thought this was geers?

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>>90287005
Geers has a much more smooth style.

>>90280038
2hypercrisis5me

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>>90286516
>Lego Batman is playing up the "Love Vision" as a parody of TKJ and all the backlash it caused.

>>90280038
source on that image?

You don't have any of these problems with Cass.

>>90280038
>Nightwing just imagines Bruce liked Batgirl
I can't see how that whole I-could-have-a-kid-if-the-right-woman-was-standing-right-in-front-of-me bit could have been miscronstrued, even by a child

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>>90288397
There was actually explicit sexual tension between the two.

>>90290804
>that one time social services came by Wayne Maynor and cass was wearing nothing but Bruce's button downs.

>>90277758
Lego Batman doesn't look like starving Koreans animated it.

>>90290804
Weren't they high as fuck on comics bathsalts at that juncture?

>>90291006
You honestly think Batman would be prepared when it comes to supervillains who used psycho drugs.

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>>90291006
Yes, but this particular writer also had Batman going into creepy overprotective (possibly jealous) father mode even without drugs.

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>>90291945
This is also some expert negging.

>>90277582
The same thing can be done in different ways and produce different results due to execution. The fact that you're too stupid to understand that means it's not worth the trouble explaining that to you. Also go fuck yourself.

>>90277582
>one is a bad idea
>the other satirizes the bad idea

doi

>>90277582
the sex scene

Barbra was a misdirect, Phyllis was the real love interest of the movie.

>>90292147
no it's clearly the Joker

>>90283715
this tbqh

>>90277582
>one is an adaptation of a story where the Bruce/Babs shit is nonexistent
>the other is a stupid lego movie
Gee I wonder why?

>>90277582
one did it poorly and pushed it way past our tolerance

the other kept it sidelined, and used it primarily for comedy rather than half the plot, and managed to keep it from overwhelming the action

just cause a broken down rental and a sports car are both wheel driveb methods of transport doesn't make it hypocritical to say one sucks and the other doesnt, because lego batman was superior

also barbara had more of a personality and was more mature in lego batman, so we accept her fine

>>90277582

Why the fuck did they make Dick look like Carrie Kelley?

>>90292892
why not?
kelly is adorable, and so is lego robin

>>90292892
to make him cuter

>>90293042

Yeah but wouldn't it make more sense to just make Lego Robin Carrie Kelley, instead of Dick who looks like Carrie Kelley?

>>90283838
Fist me boco

>>90292892
because mainstream audiences don't know about carrie kelley, but the look made dick cuter?

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Barbara Gordon, a 10/10 with Daddy issues wearing a skin-tight costume, sits on your lap and asks for you to enter her back entrance

Just what the hell would you do?

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The only Batgirl ship worth a damn.

>>90294762
What is that box-thing on her back? Part of her mic equipment?

>>90294935
Killer Moth, why are you at Starbucks in full costume?

>>90295020
Spot the virgin. It's her lady penis.

>>90277582
Usually Bruce is older, Gordon is commissioner, and Barbara is his teenage/twenty something year old daughter who is still young and naive and impressionable. So that's gross. In Lego Batman, it seems Bruce is younger, Gordon is way older and retiring the same night Bruce meets Dick, and Barbara is older, more mature and the new commissioner.

I know you know this otherwise you wouldn't have posted the thread. Don't act stupid. Creating a thread just to troll people doesn't make you look clever.

Again, in most other media there's a huge age gap between Barbara and Bruce: like 20 years. In Lego Batman its likely 10 or less.

>>90278192

>Taking the age thing seriously.

It's a joke about how long Batman has been around, not Bruce's biological age. Stop being autistic.

>>90295055
Fee wifi

>>90295255
I got 230 replies

Who's stupid now?

>>90288380
EvilToons

its not a very good movie

>>90281981
Minecraft porn is a thing.

>>90277806
How wrong he was

>>90277582
One ends platonically and one ends with a rooftop fuck that leaves Batgirl to complain about her troubles to her camp gay best guy pal.

I'll leave you to decide which movie had which.

>>90277582

The Killing Joke wasn't reviles because of the Brucebara (calling dibs on the name of that ship), but because it makes a fucking awful soap opera out of it AND a subplot about some mobster shit nobody cares about.

>>90296326
I've been on 4chan for a decade.

And this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen someone post.

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Just gonna say that Bats hooking up with Babs makes more sense than another villain like Selina or Talia. You are a lonely guy who work a stressful adrenaline filled job with a hot girl that is into it, looking for thrills and into you, and you think there isn't going to be some sort of attraction or sexual tension between the two of you? At least Babs isn't a murder or crook that is constantly breaking the law, which if you remember is exactly what Batman devoted his whole life and resources into stopping.

>>90298127
I never got that too, she is good enough for him

Even tho BatxCat will always be main pairing

>>90277582

Bruce Timm is an idiot that meant it.

>>90277582
Because one is lego blocks while the other is a 70 yr old mentor having sex with his underage protege and then ghosting her like a chump.

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>>90278397
>>90278240
>>90278192
>>90278068
>>90278038
>>90277758
Is this Pedo defense?

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>>90303674
Also the Lego seem to be the same age. Far less creepy even if there is a mentor relationship.

>>90281378
That was the entire joke.
Bruce's inability to actually admit to having a crush on her like a middle schooler.
There's also the fact that they form a proper family unit with everyone. And Barbara is effectively treated like the wife. It's not overt, but it's also clear to anyone who isn't in denial.

But back to the original point. This version of Barbara Gordon is way more mature. She's the chief of police and an experienced cop. Plus since there's a joke how nobody in the Lego universe actually ever ages (Bruce Wayne is Gotham's most eligible bachelor 90 years running)

>>90285098
>10 year age gaps are wrong

Wew faggot

>>90277582
LEGO Batman. Not legit Batman. Lego movies and games are fucking jokes. If people lost their shit over jokes, well, you'd have definitive proof of a specific number of retards. Ip counts are magic.

>>90277582
Lego Batman movie is the parody of an 8 year old boy's playtime with his Lego Bricks. He would naturally put Batgirl and Batman together.
That said she's played up as in her 30s and it's a big reason she takes offense to Bat-girl-

Also the Killing Jokes main narrative was spoiled by adding that in. It was implying Bruce had to fuck her to care Joker crippled her.

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>>90277582
>Lego Batman Barbara is 32
>TKJ Batman is just entering College
>Lego Batman didn't even make it to first base
>TKJ had rough public sex on a roof
>Lego Batman Barbara didn't give two shits about Batman
>It's all the TKJ Barbara was thinking about going as far as assaulting a stranger because he reminded her of Bruce.

>>90304828
>>Lego Batman Barbara didn't give two shits about Batman
She too used to idolize him and wants him to open up to her.
Are you a fucking autist?
All your other points are okay, I guess.

>>90304867
I meant sexually. She just saw him as a role model and nothing else. TKJ Babs was in fucking heat for him.

>>90304793
>harvard for police
>pew pew guns (non-lethal)
>batman completely smashes everything in his way
>third party villains are kept on a far away shelf
>everyone behaves like exaggerations of themeselves
>bat-memes
it does seem to be filtered through a kids eyes, although not directly as lego movie
i would like to think that the dad is invovled in the play
>80s music
>rom-coms
>patrician references (keaton, west)

>>90304915
Dad has a barbara/bruce fetish

will ferrel's character is bruce timm

/co/ BTFO

maybe now you'll stop being so anti-woman and anti-sex

Because presentation is important, Billy.

>>90304915
oh god that's.

that's awesome.

they're playing together now yesssssss.