Weekend /co/ creation thread

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Last time:

-Talked about old AU projects
-Anti-Man and other characters who wear containment suits
-More about Grimoire, the book-headed witch and the demon planes
-Another old OC, Ms. Strawberry, was dug up and added to the wiki
-New pics
-Other stuff I didn't mention

>>90214765
Yesterday somebody suggested a Roger Rabbit/Cool World type /co/ setting with toons and humans. Anybody else interested in something like this?

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Oh, I finally fucked up again.

Last thread is actually:

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/90022030/

>>90214765
Glad to see this thread up, I've actually come to miss these when they're not here.

>>90214810
Not sure how it would work, unless it was in the cyberpunk setting and worked like The Congress.

>>90214846
I still make them every Saturday if no one else beats me to it before noon.

https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/the-conservatory.wikia/type/op/

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>>90133717
>GG is short, but she's not short for her age.
She is, actually. Chest aside, she's supposed to be a runt. Pic related is my own estimations; Iris is about average height for girls their age.

>>90215094
Maybe bump up Audrey by half a head. Having Iris be a full head taller than her feels off to me.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yklyqMnfSPk

>>90215682
Neat.

Who is the other guy /co/nrad is looking at, or is that even another guy and not just another pile of stuff?

>>90215159
Hmm, maybe. When I was writing the script for the Iris two-parter, I could see Iris almost looming over Audrey. Made things feel more confrontational to me.

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>>90215882
Or maybe make Iris shorter by half a head.

How old are they supposed to be? Freshmen in high school, a year younger than that? That's not that much shorter than adults.

I can't see her being in middle school for the very simple reason of her then lacking upperclassmen since if she were in middle school, it'd be the grade right before high school.

>>90215749
Some down and out street level super hero who die in a literal dead end alley. Nobody knew or cared, except his ex-wife. She wanted to have him declare legally dead so she can cash out his policy. Until Conrad found his body nobody suspected foul play. Also rumor has it that his priceless samurai sword was passed on to his disciple, but nobody have seen him in months as well. It turns out Yakuza have put out a hit on him, can Conrad find him before the gangs do? Stay Tunes.

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>>90215956
I've always been a proponent of Audrey being a relatively early bloomer, so I generally see them as being around 13-14. Like I said, I put Iris at the average height for girls that age in >>90215094. She'd likely be around Silver Queen's height or maybe an inch or two taller by the time she's grown up.

>>90216024
We keep talking about a scenario where GG and SQ defeat someone from the future and confiscate the technology from the future to prevent a time paradox.

What if Iris got a hold of some of that technology and started using it?

>>90216801
Depends on the tech and how she could use it to prove to everyone that Audrey is Golden Girl.

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>>90217361
Just something like a portable cam quarter would be super advanced for the time, even if it used magnetic tape.

>>90214785
>-Talked about old AU projects

I had a real urge to make something up just to see if I'd plant some false memories in people's minds.

>>90218539
I'm well aware of old AU projects like Gaang Jr., My Dad Doom, Gadget Noir, Larfleeze and Desire do Las Vegas, and a few others.

/co/ never stops making AUs, it's just those ones were from a time where they felt more special for some reason and also had their own threads on plus4chan's /coc/ board.

>>90218539
Saying that, what happened to the "perfect catgirl waifu" that was made in a lab, but escaped?

>>90215094
Audrey's a bit too short in that one. 4'5" is the least I would go.
I always assumed she was in 8th grade/freshman year of HS.

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>>90219406
Which one was that again?

>>90219580
It was back when we were trying to flesh out the cyberpunk setting. IIRC animal people (think Batman Beyond Splicers) were made in labs while the robot people where "natural" occurrences.

>>90215094
I think what this chart is forgetting is that superheros tend to be tall as part of the whole heroic build thing so Silver Queen would be more like 5'11" or even six feet, similar to Wonder Woman, and then Golden Guardian is in the upper echelon of that at 6'4"

>>90219679
That could pose a really interesting question. Say that robots developed their intelligence and sentience naturally, so their status as deserving rights isn't even an argument. While a manufactured people, while being a totally organic and living creature, aren't a natural creation, so should they get rights equal to that of a natural intelligence?

>>90219846
Silver Queen never struck me as being that tall, though. Were superheroines commonly that tall back in the 50s?

>>90220025
>implying those lab freaks deserve rights

>>90219679
I don't remember that setting.

Are we talking metal, computers, and electricity robots, or some other type?

>>90222408
Isn't a robot a metal-skinned, computer-brained, electricity-powered being anyway?

Not sure how they evolved into a "life form", but maybe an AI replicated itself upon attempted deletion and ended up having individuality come about as a natural outcome of disparate intelligences in disparate bodies?

>>90222677
Not necessarily.

>a machine capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically, especially one programmable by a computer.

So you could have a clockwork robot.

But how does a robot come about without anyone building it?

>>90223225
Self-replication/reproduction of some kind?

I really like Rogues Galleries. Something about a bunch of villains themed around a hero really works for me, like how so many of Spidey's repeat villains are either scientists or people who suffered through accidents. Makes great fodder for stories when you can just look at a list and select the appropriate enemy.

Which of our current characters has rogues? It looks like a few of them do. Does anyone need more?

>>90224014
Rogues Galleries for specific heroes that come to mind without checking are
-Appladay
-Bees Knees
-Chaptor
-Shark Lass (a villain with a gallery of heroes)

I know there's a bunch more who have a lot of enemies.

I'd say Jetpack Viking and Manny Quinn could use bad guys they fight regularly who aren't in the Sageworthy Society.

>>90224155
Old flavor Justice Comrades can be hard to work with when it comes to recurring villain themes because of how weird they usually are. For Jetpack Viking, the only thing I can think is some enemy or rival from that [insert war here] coming back to haunt him.

>>90224758
Really?

For Manny Quinn I'd think he'd fight ghost clothes before joining the J/co/.

>>90220025
Robots also dislike the synthoids because they're being replaced due to the environmental concerns caused by a large population that requires electricity and rare metals to exist and continue living.

>>90223320
But then where does the first one come from?

Where their more primitive robots that upgraded to the current model line?

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>>90226322
Maybe they see them like we see monkeys?

As for the first one, maybe they see an aspect of God the Geometer in this creator and first creation? Sort of God the Programmer.

Like, what would a Robot Divine Creation be like?

>>90227423
A solar flare that lights up a cloud of plasma/dust in space which just so happens to create the first binary system?

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>>90227575
>a totally random electrical event triggered the creation of sentient life

This is what binarytheists actually believe.

>>90227793
What's that type of knight called the worships the sun? If there's a robot version of that, then they'd fire back at your remarks.

>>90227896
Do you mean Solaire of Astoria?

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>>90228107
I don't know what I mean.

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>>90219502
4'5" could work, too. Like I said, it's an estimation. I was working off how she measures up with the 5'10" Briana here, and figured out SQ's height based on that.

>>90229289
Canon is especially loose in pictures like that so it may not be a good idea to use it as a reference tool.

>>90229922
Well, I only used it to figure out a general range for Audrey's height and fiddled around until I found a number that seemed to work right.

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What kind of stories would Alpha, the robot boy end up in?

>>90231655
None, because he's fucking shit.

>>90224014
Motion has one of the most extensively detailed Rogues' Galleries for /coc/.

>>90231655
High school undercover with ladybug.

>>90229289
Well i think 4'5" is alright considering she's still a pubescent teenager. I mean she'd be shorter than Marley but obviously only for a few years. The question is does he vertical growth happen slowly over time or all at once like her tits?

>>90237348
Probably a spurt near the end of her development, after a suitably appropriate moment in her personal life.

>>90232430
Can't be worse than oppai loli or boobbrows.

>>90237194
Why go undercover at a high school?

>>90237786
>boobbrows

Briana is a fucking treasure. Her huge, soft brows are the best thing /co/ has ever created.

>>90237838
containment business.

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>>90239289
/co/ntainment, or just regular containment? Last I saw he's sort of a fugitive from /co/ntainment since he spilled hot coffee on Muttonchops.

And now it's time to see if the thread makes it through the night.

>>90237348
>>90237464
My thought is that it happens as quickly as her boobs grew in, just before she goes off to college and starts operating solo as Bullion.

I also think she and Iris end up roommates at college, which starts Iris's transition from rival to ally.

>>90242710
I think Audrey getting tall would happen more slowly.

Sometime using high school, I think Iris would lose her malice about exposing who GG is.

Here's how I think it would go down.
GG meets her future self after they've foiled whatever future bad guy came back in time, we see the "I'm going to be tall!" line take place from GG's perspective, but then in another comic, we repeat that from another perspective and show Iris holding some of that future technology.

She takes it home and begins trying to figure out how to use it, some of it is an AI that begins talking to her and instructing her on how to repair the technology.
Iris now has mobile cameras and stuff for spying, but the AI is also using them to do things, like steal stuff. It's slowly turning Iris into a supervillain without her realizing it.

This would be an on going arc that concludes some time during high school when GG finally confronts the mastermind behind the drones and discovers it's Iris, but she's unaware of what they've been doing behind her back, her obsession with exposing GG blinded her to the evil being committed.

Something happens here, maybe the AI's goal was to get into BIGRAC and stage an assassination attempt on SQ to keep her from thwarting something big in the future.

When GG saves SQ, she notes just how much GG has grown and begins training her to use the bracers.

Of course, anything with an on going plot would be nestled between a lot of gag comics.

>>90245384
>I think Audrey getting tall would happen more slowly.
I thought it make for a decent bookend to have things start and proverbially end with a sudden growth spurt.

Also, going back to the college roomies thing, I thought it would be kinda funny to have Iris get so caught up in college preparation that she actually misses Audrey's growth spurt, and arrives at college to find that A) Audrey's her roommate, and B) she's shot up almost two feet.

>I think Iris would lose her malice about exposing who GG is.
I never really saw it as malice. More of a mix of frustration and a determinaton to prove she's right. The AI plot is a neat idea, though.

>>90224916
How about a demon tailor, creating haunted clothes?
Maybe mirrroring Eric Powell's "Hillbilly" having a focus on the Devil's cutlery.

>>90245384
I wonder if Time Travel in the GG universe is what Multiverse travel is to DC. Eras of comics being treated how different Earths coexist.

>>90246460
So maybe malice was the wrong word, but her obsessive nature over GG diminishes after that plot resolves.

>>90246515
Reminds me of that idea where a big bomb suit (magically animated) is stuffed full of lightweight morph suits (also magically animated) so it can "throw up" fodder.

So why's the demon tailor sewing souls into fabric?

>>90247286
Would that take away from being able to slide gradually from one era to the next though?

>>90247286
Well, the general idea is that, as an in-universe comic book, GG's world gradually transitions from one era to the next with the passing times. So...kind of?

Would BIGRAC originate from some of the future tech?
Or just be created imitating it?

>>90250685
Does it need to be connected? There's been talk in the past of GG's world having a BTAS-style retro-yet-advanced tech level.

>>90250976
This is just how my mind works, I like finding connections everywhere, applying it to fictional settings like these helps keep me sane.

No, they don't need to be connected, but if there were a connection, it would make it easier for the supposed AI to hijack SQ's Bat Computer.

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Slow day today.

I did overhaul that Ms. Strawberry wiki entry a day or two ago.

>>90254864

>In other news, craft stores across the country report a mass shortage of double sided tape...

So the Stan Lee way of coming up with characters is just to look around the room, find a random object or animal near your desk, and use that as a power, right?

There's a glass cup on the desk near me, so clearly I should come up with some sort of glass-based power. Or maybe there's a whole world of characters small enough to live in my carpet. Am I doing this right?

>>90256249
>They called me Mister Glass.

>>90256726
I tried to be Stan and became Shyamalan? Now that's what I call a twist.

>>90256249
>>90256726
>>90256853

I giggled.

>>90256249
>>90256726
>>90256853
That said... a character whose only power is that they get injured but never actually take lethal damage/die could be cool. You could sit there pounding on them with a chainsaw and they'd just get a bit cut up and bruised. Maybe break a bone.

No idea how they'd ever get anything done, though. Would spend a lot of time getting tossed around or groaning on the floor.

>>90258685
You just described Captain Skinless of the Justice /co/mrades. He can recover from anything, except his skin.

The thing about characters who can regenerate or shrug off lethal damage, but otherwise lack offensive abilities, is they have greater defensive game.
The bad guy can wail on them for hours and all it does it wear the bad guy down enough until the person with average strength can take them down or another super with offensive abilities comes to assist.

Such a character can die a hundred deaths, get up from each one of them, and keep fighting. It is the inverse of "evil only needs to win once".

This is a useless ability when the bad guy has a clear objective or bystanders are around since they can be targeted while you recover, but in a one-on-one fight, the opponent is fucked since they have no real way of winning.

Unless they put the regenerating person in a barrel and fill it with cement, dropping them into a body of water.
Or launch them into space.
I'd consider that a win against those types of characters since they have no way of coming back from that.

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>>90255241

>>90259275
And also Strummer now that I think about it.

>>90256249
>Or maybe there's a whole world of characters small enough to live in my carpet.
Sounds like a decent children's fantasy series.

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I've always meant to do a comic or something for the /coc/ threads but im always to lazy to do it.

Well here's a Erin concept thing, hope you like

>>90268253
Huh, well that's neat.

There is the idea that her wardrobe expands as time goes on and she acquires more personal funds and access to fabrics.

Time to find out if the thread will live or die.

What do Erin's living arrangements look like on the Demon Planes?

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>tfw trying to think of a series idea that I could animate relatively easily (like peppa pig level of easy) and with the kind of humor like leo &| satan

>>90269345
Probably like a fine Parisian apartment, overlooking the Tower of the Damned Souls. Make her feel like she's home.

>>90273102
Fuck those damned souls, am I right? Personally I'd never live near people who are screaming at such late hours.

>>90251066
I always thought of BTAS as ambiguously in the past, Beyond as ambiguously in the future, and JL as ambiguously the present.

My choice of tech level is WWII, but with some anachronisms from Batman '66.

Like BIGRAC being a rejected prototype military computer, yet being able to do things that would be frankly impossible if not for being handwaved.

In the crisis that allows GG to interact with the main /co/verse, that would be a good time for some kind of AI/Machine intelligence to sneak into Iris's care from the future without causing a paradox from Golden Guardian's future.

Still need a Bullion design, which depends on how proportionate she is. I'd place her college days as where Bullion debuts, with Graduation being where she finally emerges as Golden Guardian. That gives time for Iris to work as intel for Audrey, and gain character development as she sorts out her feelings.

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>>90273936
>I'd place her college days as where Bullion debuts, with Graduation being where she finally emerges as Golden Guardian.
Those were my thoughts as well. Graduation or maybe a year or two afterwards.

>Still need a Bullion design, which depends on how proportionate she is.
I see Bullion as being at her full adult height, but still on the lean side of athletic. The Golden Guardian era, when she starts wearing the bracelets, is when she starts actively putting on muscle to take full advantage of the strength enhancement.

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>winter seasonal girl is losing her power

In other news, time to buy stocks in Spring.

>>90256249
going to throw some ideas out

Glass Transmutation can change things to glass and back again Possible name glass cannon ?

Or the power to create large glass walls and surfaces called looking glass or pain'd glass ?

>>90256249
Going to follow that idea i have a hard drive on my desk so obviously some sort of information or computing powers.
Data Bank the info broker with a huge memory and can talk to computers, dabbles as a hacker but keeps the day job of an investment banker.

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I had an idea of a lovecraftian setting with Cookie and Deelete, where meets the mysterious girl Deelete who seems harmless and pure at first but somehow strange things happens around her, at first small things but it ends up as bad as some grown-ups acting strange around her, there is even a dangerous cult after her who is trying to kidnap. Cookie as an aspiring hero tries to save, he also tries to know more about her and yet at the same time he fears about knowing too much, like there is something about her, a true that he should never know.

>>90273102
She must've gone to a lot of effort to design it then.

>>90273753
Screaming Dammed Souls makes it feel a bit like living in a tropical climate during the summer when all the frogs chirp all night and the cicadas are singing.

If you grow up with that, it's pretty much like a lullaby.

>>90273936
I was thinking Iris would get the future stuff after a gag strip of GG fighting some future thing where her future self shows up, not a full fledged crossover.

>>90277637
OK, so who are the bad guys? What kind of cult?

>>90274269
I was thinking in >>90245384 that GG's training with the bracers would begin years before they became her's so she'd be ready for them.

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Or bears from the beard dimension.

That's another old thing.

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>>90282758

I'd like to name the first planet explored by Kid Comet, Derodux. A barren sand planet that has a large pyramid on its northern pole. KC explores the pyramid, avoiding its dangerous boobytraps, and gets his trusty blaster as a reward from the pyramids housekeeper, a cleaning robot named 41fr3d.

>>90283980
Is it a floating pyramid?

>>90285511
I like that idea so yes

>>90280448
>What kind of cult?

the /d/-cult, a group of deviants who think they can use Deelette to get into the /d/mension as they seen some go crazy(discovering their true self) and then dying around Deelete, also all the things that spawn out of Deeletes shadow, makes them think she is some kind of portal that'll bring them to the other /d/imension.

>>90280448
What sort of training would that entail?

And on the topic, do they know the bracers' strength boost is proportionate? I kind of like the idea of Golden Guardian initially being surprised by how much stronger she is than SQ.

>>90288864
And that is exactly why she would have training, so she doesn't accidentally rip someone's bones out of their skin by tapping them.

Her first time wearing the bracers would be in their HQ wherever place, in a training situation, so she actually gets used to what they do.

>>90289262
Good point, though I still think Bullion should be leaner than Golden Guardian. She's like a transitionary period between Audrey's youth and adulthood; not as skinny as Golden Girl, but not as beefy as Golden Guardian.

>>90291833
See, that's why I said the whole Iris/AI arc thing comes to and end near the end of high school. That way Audrey is taller by then and SQ realizes just how far she's come when she saves her from some past enemy from the future they thought they dealt with years ago.

It's sort of the conclusion to Golden Girl and the beginning of Bullion.
I figure while she's Bullion, SQ is training her to use the bracers so she'll be able to succeed her in the future.

>>90283980
Should Kid Comets gun be an element gun like Star Lord or should it just be a basic blaster?

>>90288130
Dying around her? That's not very /d/.

>>90292919
>I figure while she's Bullion, SQ is training her to use the bracers so she'll be able to succeed her in the future.
She's Bullion while she's off at college, though. That wouldn't leave her too much training time, would it?

>>90296980
It's during that time where she gets her first lessons using the bracers.

She's no having daily training with them, SQ is easing her into it.

Personally I've never really seen the point of the Bullion phase from a storytelling perspective. It's not like Dick had a third secret identity in between being Robin and Nightwing. He was just rocking the man panties well past it was time and the when he switched to Nightwing he had a disco phase, but it wasn't a separate identity.

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>>90214765
Here's M comic, /co/ |:~}

>>90297423
If anyone were ever allowed to be Batman other than Bruce, then Dick would've been Batman and stayed as Batman by now.

Golden Girl becoming Bullion is her going from a girl to a woman, and Bullion becoming Golden Guardian is Silver Queen passing her the torch.

Or at least that's how I think of it.

>>90297832
Ditto. It's not like the torch is gonna be unpassed like Batman.

>>90300142
That's part of the fun of this, we can actually have them advance if we want.

>>90245384
This is pretty good stuff.
I'd read it.

>>90214765
Where do I order anchor arms? Are there male/female versions or do they just come in whimp sizes?

>>90268253
>dem poofy shoulders

Surprised /coc/ didn't give her one of those half-mohawk things that seems to be all the rage in "alternative" comic characters these days.

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>>90305527
/co/lette got her's from this.

>>90305755
>these days

Erin has been around probably a bit longer than you think.

>>90305489
It being an on-going story thing makes it difficult to implement though with how GG is mostly a gag comic.

>>90305795
Is it ever explained who made them and why they decided to give them away?

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>>90308115
Nope.

It's always been left a mystery.

Kid Comet and the Spiderbots of Yaznin 4. Kid Comet makes a pit stop at an intergalactic ship refueling station only to find it has been turned into a Spiderbot manufacturing facility. He must get enough fuel to fire up his ship and escape before being fighting the Spiderbots web of death!

>>90309414
>before being fighting the Spiderbots web of death!
Wait, what?

>>90310768
Replace fighting with "Caught in". Sorry

>>90214765
Why does the font become Comic Sans in the last speech bubble?

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Whatever happened to She-Thulhu? The character was being argued about in almost every thread and then disappeared. I enjoyed the "discussions" about her.

>>90310963
>discussions

You mean pointless shit-flinging?

>>90312039
Hence the quotations I put around the word.

>>90305755
Side-cuts have been a thing in punk culture for a lot longer than 'these days', but for some reason they've recently been appropriated by tumblr artists.

>>90307994
It is a rather tricky tightrope to walk. Maybe the occasional double-sized "special edition" strip for more plot-centric stuff? Or multi-parters like the Iris intro strips.

>>90317046
Yes, there's also usually opposition to trying to apply any sort of on going narrative.

The main problem right now I think with GG is the lack of jokes. No one seems to be trying to come up with jokes and slapstick anymore.

GG ceases to be GG when there's no comedy or at least some play on words or visual gags.

>>90318206
>Audrey is so short that the cover of one of her issues has the camera up too high, cutting off her lower face

>>90318276
I feel like that give it room for a second "over her head" gag.

>>90318206
The resistance to an ongloing plot is only partially because the dna of the concept is coded in comedy. It's also a conscious decision to avoid the kind of lore creep that results in a full wiki but no actual chance of implementation like with what happened with Breast Quest and so many other /coc/ projects

>>90318206
>GG is captured and tied up
>breaks free by inhaling deeply

>>90320191
Just getting gag panels drawn is also a challenge in itself.

>>90322360
That's what the button comic could benefit from.

>>90324192
>Just getting gag panels drawn is also a challenge in itself.

Most drawfags seem to stick to a single set of characters they're familiar with, often their own, so without artists the theory guys are pretty much just talking to each other.

>>90325608
Or writing stories, though no one really reads them when I write them, but that's fine.

>>90312039
I would've liked to have developed Madness Vision as a power.

Though odds are it wouldn't have gone anywhere.

here comes a necrobumper to force the dead thread alive