I hadn't seen X2 since I was a kid, so I decided to watch

>>90199204

The President there was meant to be based on Bush.

So giving him a small folder and then scaring the shit out of him was appropriate.

They literally gave him a file detailing Stryker's crimes, including the brainwashing.

>>90199282
Is that supposed to offset the fact that a bunch of superpowered weirdos in leather, one of whom tried to assassinate him, just showed up in his office and did all that shit and told him they were here to stay

Also, it's Washington DC. Unless Xavier is capable of freezing everyone within sight of the White House, I'm sure someone saw a bunch of people in leather show up in a plane and massive storm clouds appear in the sky.

>>90199360
It's called hedging your fucking bets.

If he's sensible enough to actually read the dossier, then everything will be fine.

BUT on the off-chance he goes "I WAS ELECTED TO LEAD, NOT TO READ!", you might wanna scare the shit out of him just so he realizes how utterly fucked he'd be if he DID decide to declare open season on muties.

>>90199412
he's one of the most powerful telepaths in the world.

he's the reason Magneto wears the bucket

>>90199412
"Yeah so a bunch of weird dark clouds just spontaneously materialized outta thin air around specifically the White House on a totally sunny day and no one inside the White House remembers it"
"Not suspicious at all"

>>90199204
This movie's been out for ages, anon, you don't have to use spoliers

>>90199412
>>90199204
I actually thought about that the other day. In the end I figured Xavier probably just psychically projected a message into the President's head, but I forgot about the folder they drop on his desk.

>>90199425
I feel like that on its own would be a serious powderkeg.
If a bunch of Muties showed up and spooked the dick out of you, you'd probably be way more open to ideas when the next guy comes along and says "yo my nig i got ur solution to the Mutant Problem rite here"

I mean that's basically what happened at the beginning of the movie, anyway.

>>Mutants want to be seen as people, not weapons.
>>Leader is a guy who goes on rampages and kills effortlessly

Explain

>>90199492
I didn't want to assume.

Duly noted

>>90199561
GOD AND MAN, NOT GOD AND MUTIE

>>90199204
What the fuck happened after X2 it went to shit with X3 and even deeper in the shit with Origins. It was salvaged with First Class and then went to shit with the next two. Will Logan be good?

>>90200352

Fox likes to rape the X-Men

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I'll concede the point. X2 is not as coherently great as everyone thinks it is.

On the other hand, there are a number of individual scenes in it that are sublime.

>>90200506
That's fair.

As much as I hate Magneto that bit was so cash.

You got to admit FOX has yet to top the Nightcrawler White House scene

>>90199204
what you have hit on is a manifestation of the flaw of the mutant "problem". we are, as readers, to regard them as a stand in for well mostly homosexuals, but in universe they are a deadly dangerous threat. so while the story gives us the feel good moral acceptance message with some cool scenes wrapped around it, in universe we have a group spouting moral platitudes and expecting it to change the world while ignoring legitimate fears/concerns/issues.

>>90200868
I liked Apocalypse's Quicksilver scene where he saves everyone in the mansion
That was pretty great

>>90200931
But its basically a rehash of Quicksilvers other scene in DOFP

>>90200912
It's really hard for me to sympathize with a Mutant for being a Mutant, unless they're a kid or something.
For this very reason.

>>90201034
It was still goddamned great.

>>90201039
it really bothers me, you get called a bigot when you point out that massive issues arise from superpowers. sounds kind of familiar.

>>90201258
Minorities =/= people with superpowers

>>90201039
>>90201258
I recall in the first movie during a press conference where Jean was basically saying it was ok not to monitor mutants or be registered. Which I get it, they never asked to be mutants and getting put on a list is the first step towards genocide and all that, but the fact remains that these people have extraordinary, often dangerous abilities and have zero regulations put on them.

>>90200868
Blink's Fastball Special with Colossus was pretty dope

>>90201403
Is that ever seriously addressed? Like, ever?
Comics, movies, television- anything?

>>90201403
what about medical needs? a latex allergy is important but imagine being an EMT trying to treat Rogue uninformed.
>>90201258
more along the lines of empty virtue signaling compared to addressing real complications.

>>90201499
The debate over the Mutant Registration Act has been a thing in the comics for decades.

>>90201612
very straw man, and always with the shadow of DOFP. i have never read one that gives any kind of reasonable pro argument.

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Aight, so let me see if I got this straight, starting with:
>First Class
>Days of Future Past (Bad End Timeline)
>Wolverine: Origins
>X1, X2, X3
>The Wolverine
>Days of Future Past (Good End Timeline, erases X2 and X3, maybe The Wolverine?)
>Apocalypse
>Logan

Close?

>>90201527
The problem is that both sides have fair arguments and its a lose/lose scenario. On one hand not registering mutants gives some, not all, the idea that they can get away with shit from a superiority complex while on the other hand cataloging every mutant is essentially a shopping list for government projects/weapon programs.

>>90201902
the x men though never address the issues brought up.

>>90201973
They do, but 9/10 the other side is depicted as bigots or mad scientists

>>90199280
But if it was glorious Obama, they just woulda had a nice chat, right?

I hate Hollywood libtards

>>90201819
What?

First Class - Origins Wolverine - X1 - X2 - X3 - The Wolverine - DOFP bad end

Then DOFP changes the timeline so

First Class - Apocalypse - DOFP good end - Logan

>>90202694
Right, but doesn't Origins still happen

>>90200352
>What the fuck happened after X2 it went to shit with X3 and even deeper in the shit with Origins.

No Singer.

>>90202694
Forgot to put in DOFP itself

First Class - DOFP - Origins Wolverine - X1 - X2 - X3 - The Wolverine - DOFP bad end
First Class - DOFP - Apocalypse - DOFP good end - Logan

>>90202775
Apocalypse must have overwritten Origins because of the Weapon X scene.

>>90201819

Not quite.

Time line 1:
First Class, Origins, X1-3, The Wolverine, DOFP (future scenes).

Time line 2:
DOFP (past scenes), Apocalypse, DOFP Good end, Logan.

>>90202775
No, in DOFP Mystique ends up with Logan, he never follows the same path. How he ends up at Department H is completely different, but fate.

>>90202082
This makes me very sad.

>>90201499
There was one issue of Ultimate X-men about a kid whose mutant power made everyone in general vicinity explode, whether he wanted them to or not. The X-men ended up quietly assassinating the kid so that the media didn't catch wind of him, because they knew it would single-handedly destroy every pro-mutant argument they were campaigning for.

>>90203528
Holy dicking shit.

>>90203528
Which issue?

>>90200352
>then went to shit with the next two
lol

>>90204194
#41