Why is this fucking show so mean spirited about literally everything?

Edgy teen humor?
It used to be lighter but I guess that's their target demographic now.

Because that gets more attention, and keeps the show running forever, than being more less unnecessarily edgy would. That and it's easier to make up bunch of bullshit than write a good show, so they go for shock value stuff so no one notices

>>90176567
It's legit like the only show I'd actually say would be "mean spirited" unironically.

Like fuck, Drawn Together was more crass and offensive than them but at no point did it feel like anyone was really angry. Here it's just, garbage.

>>90176528
Pandering at 15 year olds who think everything is shit.

>>90176528
It's perfect for 4chan!

>>90176528
Because it appeals to edgelords and Linkin Park fans!

>>90176528
you realize the same could be said of /co/'s attitude towards the show

They know they're not getting canceled so they're "crossing the line" as far as they feel like it.

>>90176528
>mean spirited
fuck off Mr. Enter

>>90176528

Because mean-spirited humor is the easiest. Family Guy is written by lazy hacks who don't know how to set up jokes.

>>90176604
This is the point I came to make. Drawn Together manages to take things a level beyond Family Guy on a bad day, and it's still not mean spirited. Everything is done as a joke, with actual comedic value to it, and when this type of shit manages to be actually funny then I've got no reason to take it seriously and be off put by it. Drawn Together is like having fun, fucked up bantz with friends, and Family Guy is that one dude that tries too hard to fit in and ends up saying something legitimately insulting.

>>90177212
I fucking WAITED for someone to bring him up.

Get a fucking cookie, faggot.

A key difference, I think, between "Family Guy" and "American Dad" is that many of the characters in AG all seem generally happy, with their eyes wide open. Most, if not all of the side characters in FG are all angry, bitter pessimists with half-lidded eyes.

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mean spirited humor is best

>>90176528
Because that's not how you do good mean-spirited humor. Stuff like Osomatsu-kun, EEnE and Drawn Together does that stuff right.

I mean it was made by one of the three Seths

>>90177262
Because Drawn Together probably never got to a point where everyone on the cast and staff would rather be doing anything else. Family Guy's issue isn't that its offensive or dark humor it's that everyone just doesn't give a fuck anymore and it shines through.

>>90176528
You are right.

This series is catered to the defamation of humanity in order to further destabilize society.

Do people even watch Family Guy unironically anymore? No one talks about it unless it's to criticize old episodes. You never hear talk about anything current.

Yeah it used to be comedically mean, now its just random "our family is shit, i want a divorce, i hate the kids" out of nowhere.

>>90177573
There's a thread every Sunday night when Simpsons, Family Guy and Bob's Burgers are on and that's when anyone talks about Family Guy.

>>90176528
I don't get why they put so much gore into now

Like every other episode has someone having their skin ripped off

>>90178289
If bitter cynicism is easy humor, shock value is even easier. Gore doesn't need a punchline. It's purely "HAHA LOOK AT THIS BLOODY STUMP CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE THIS HAPPENED"

>>90176528
>"Shut up, Meg."

>>90176686
The difference is 4chan isn't trying to make you laugh when people here tell you to go fuck yourself.

>>90176528
The show became cynical because Seth became cynical.

The easiest way to make someone laugh is to make them laugh at someone else's expense.

The show turned to shit when Stewie of all people became the new Meg.

And of course Lois is revealed to beat him frequently because child abuse is hilarious, amirite?

>>90176528
Is this show written by Americans?

>>90180809

Worse, Irish.

>>90181277

Jim, get the truck.

We're stopping a shipment of potatoes, tonight!

>>90177262

Well the key difference as I see it is that a character like Peter will go out of the way to be a dick to Meg, knows he's being a dick to Meg and is honestly acting just to be a dick to Meg.

Captain Hero on the other hand will use a women as a bullet shield but with him you get the idea that he's not being a dick so much as he's to retarded to know what he's actually doing. Characters are less outright evil and more moronic.

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How many people have died because of Peter? I've seriously lost track.

>>90176528
the last season has been actually pretty good

I'm waiting for one of these shows to pull something really profound and different one day. Just end Family Guy be revealing Peter lives a normal, boring life and this is just how he sees the world around him.

>>90176528
I think the worst thing is that they don't even target anything in particular with the cynicism. There was one recent episode where they made fun of people who like car rides just to hit some shitty joke quota. It's like it's made being written by the people who blame things on hipsters.

>>90181277
Fuck off BRITS

>>90176528
>None of it is making fun of something out of love

Well of course not, this isn't fucking MLP.

>>90177389
I want to fuck xandir, too bad the show got cancelled and he didn't get much porn

>mean spirited
My problem is that its just fucking lazy. None of the racial humor in this is offensive, its just so fucking lame and lazy.

Mort is a Jew. We get it hilarious
Joe is a cripple. Queue scene where his legs flop around like limp noodles.

The stuff that gets me is all the domestic abuse/failed marriage humor. None of that is funny even on a dark humor level. Apparently all these characters hate each other.

FUCKING HILARIOUS

>>90176528

Seth's honestly oblivious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H-cB-l3O-4

For those that don't care to watch, this is Seth MacFarlane complaining that the network had a problem with a joke he wrote where Quagmire rapes Marge from the Simpsons, after which she enjoyed the rape so much that she invites him back to bed, and then he goes on to kill the entire family including the children.

He literally says that it's the same as that one time the Simpsons said he was a joke plagiarist.

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>>90176528
I heard that Seth was going through some shit mid-way, like cringe-level everyone-has-to-suffer-if-i'm-suffering shit. And he shoved that shit into Family Guy.

That, and Family Guy is fairly uncontained, unsupervised (outside of major things), and targeting a demographic that is growing further and further desensitized.

That one I'm calling the biggest issue. When Family Guy first came out it was like, "Holy shit this show is so offensive! They pull jokes on everyone!" And, at that time, they did and it was funny sometimes. But the more of that we take, the less funny and entertaining it is. To keep being popular, Family Guy has to get even MORE offensive. At some point they hit a wall on how much shit they could get away with, so they turned to cynicism, because that's universally offensive (as in, no one fucking likes a pure cynic).

This hurt them.

Meanwhile another show, American Dad, is much more supervised and relies on other things for comedy, not needing to get worse and worse and worse.

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What IS the target demographic at this point?

>>90177435
Seth Green
Seth McFarlane
Seth ??????????

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>>90181745
>None of the racial humor in this is offensive,
It's not trying to be. Seth and his writers are as liberal as you can get before going full safe space/progressive/retarded.

>Mort is a Jew. We get it hilarious
But that's the point. It's so stereotypical and overreaching it goes from being dumb to funny. Whether it's your brand of humor or not, the intent is obvious: the entire thing is making fun of how stupid these stereotypes actually are if you really play them out to their inevitable conclusion.

>>90181560
Not counting world exploding, dream sequences, cutaways, or other such nonsequeters.

Probably a few hundred. Biggest are his chicken fights probably.

>>90181747
>why not? They've made fun of family guy like five times

Jesus, he really can't see that the problem wasn't that he was "making fun" of The Simpsons, can he?

>>90183380
Count Rogen, the man with the six-fingered hand.

>>90181747
>where Quagmire rapes Marge from the Simpsons, after which she enjoyed the rape so much that she invites him back to bed, and then he goes on to kill the entire family including the children.

Holy fuck is edgy creepypasta tier. Like it literally sounds like the description for a lost episode creepypasta.

>>90176528
Because it's appealing to the younger audience it draws with a whiny "everything is shit" sense of "humor", a la most stand-up comics. It's extremely easy to make jokes centered around saying how shitty something is.

>>90181745
Family Guy hasn't quite stooped to the lows of new Simpsons for me (IE the point where I physically can't bring myself to watch it even if I have literally nothing better to do), but it is pretty obnoxious how often they hammer in that everyone in the show hates eachother.
>Constant "jokes" about how Lois is fucking miserable and hates her life, Peter, and her kids
>Constant "jokes" about how everyone hates Joe and how dumb Joe is
>Brian constantly being a piece of shit and/or getting shit on for no reason
Not to mention how repetitive the plots are. I mean, the last two were pretty much the same; Peter and friends wanna do music, Peter and friends do music, Peter is separated from the group, they realize they value their friendship over [insert reason separation happened], and they get back together. Then they don't even make an attempt at a B plot, the B plots are generally just random events loosely strung together.

>>90181575
I wouldn't say "pretty good", but definitely better than usual.

>>90181517
>Activate Hero Shield!

That still gets a genuine laugh out of me.

>>90176528
Sounds like you are just a whiny, thin skinned bitch to me. Man up and stop getting so upset at every little thing.

>>90178806
What's wrong with trying to make people laugh?

>>90176528
>>90176567
>>90176581
>>90176638
>>90176861
They know their fans very well. I can't recall correctly, but it was either Family Guy or Robot Chicken that made several skits/cutaways over the years pointing out their underaged fanbase. Or maybe it was both of them.

>>90184136
Robot Chicken is pure trash

>>90182074
Kids, teens, 20 somethings and 30 somethings. It's got everything dumb normal people want and most of them are dumb as shit and believed they really killed off Brian.

>>90184150
Robot Chicken is popular because it's the same level as Seth MacFarlane humor and Family Guy cutaways just in stop motion form.

>>90184192
>Robot Chicken is popular

Citation needed

>>90184213
It's been on since 2005 and had many specials.

>>90184255
Ok. I never hear anyone talk about it and I even forgot that shit existed.

>>90176528

Very rarely they have episodes which are not like that, usually between Brian and Stewie, but yeah, most of it is horrible hopeless crapsack hellworld shit.

I don't get it, because as far as I know the creator of this depressing show is a nice guy.

>>90177262

...You know, I like that. I fucking hate 'Drawn Together', but the lack of any seriousness at all does help, doesn't it?

'Family Guy' brushes up against realism sometimes and that makes it so depressing.

Of course, nobody is forcing me to watch it...

>>90177357

Yeah... although Roger is probably the most morally objectionable character anywhere. Like a Pokémon evolution of Cartman or something.

>>90177389

I did like one or two porny scenes. When they showed Cousin Blah's bush I was very surprised.

>>90177490

Or... to oppose it. Make us look around and go "My god, what are we doing?"
The point of satire it so pull away the blanket and reveal the ugliness underneath. What you do next is the universal moral choice.

>>90179168

I guess we're a bit behind in Yurp?

>>90181606

"Autism is such a weird condition..."
"I wonder what he sees in that thing?"

>>90184454
Liberals are usually hate filled people, they just tend to do a decent job of hiding it

>>90181745
>Apparently all these characters hate each other.

Bingo. Is this a cry for help, or an indictment of American society?

>>90181747

That sounds like that creepypasta 'Dead Bart" or something - that level.

>>90184028

Seems to me you're the one with the problem if you have become so desensitized to horrible things.

>>90184507
'sup projectionist.

>>90184507

I forget which ones are called the 'liberals'. They're the ones who are support liberty, or is that the libertarians?

>>90184540
>They're the ones who are support liberty

LOL. No.

>>90184547

Why are they called 'liberals'?

>>90184602
There's no rhyme nor reason to names of anything to do with politics in the US. There's no point in trying to figure it out.

>>90184540
It doesn't mean anything now. Technically it's "a moderate left-to-right winger who, while believing in the free market and personal liberties, also believes the state should be able to act upon social issues through reforms". It represents a lukewarm, center-left viewpoint which tends to embody a very status-quo way of thinking.

Of course, all the term means now is "a politically limp-wristed poof that will bend over backwards in order to appeal to primarily social issues", and has very little to do with actual politics anymore.

Bump: so basically this started out as a parody of the Simpsons, then it became serious satire and now it's basically just self-referential, repetitive, cynical dreck?

>>90185216
It started out as a parody of 70s and 80s sitcoms. It's only real link to the Simpsons is being animated. Structurally and humor wise it's much closer to the Critic if one had to compare it to another animated sitcom at all.

Sometimes I think that copypasta has done truth to it. American Dad doesn't have this problem at all though

>>90184602
In America it means socially liberal (less rules and restrictions) and financially conservative (high taxes and fiscal control). Conservatives pretty much means the opposite.

>>90185311
>>90185216
Matt Groening kind of likes Family Guy; some of the Simpsons writers, especially Al Jean, can't stand it.

>>90186093
Democrats want you to have personal freedom, but not economic freedom. Republicans want you to have economic freedom, but not personal freedom.

>>90178806
>The difference is 4chan isn't trying to make you laugh when people here tell you to go fuck yourself.
And that's better how?

>>90186104
Now that I think about it, its structural similarity to the Critic might be part of why Al Jean hates it so much.

>>90177212
>Only this Internet reviewer feel this way,it's impossible to others people to share the opinions of this YouTube reviewer therefore everyone who post some opinion similar to that e-celeb is that e-celeb
Fuck off retard

>>90186137
I assumed Jean doesn't like it because it's too mean spirited, while that's closer to Groening's cynical style of humor (like if you saw the Ullman shorts)

>>90176528
>mean spirited
why do people say it like it's a bad thing? the world isn't made of fucking cotton candy

>>90177357
>"American Dad"
but that's even worse
I used to like this show when I was younger but I look at it now and it's not just edgy
it's edgy in a very genetic way
it's the same boring black humour and the same boring satire all over again.

>>90176528
It's almost as if the writers are a bunch of white cucks?

>>90176528
Did he fuck lois

>>90184503
>Make us look around and go "My god, what are we doing?"
>The point of satire it so pull away the blanket and reveal the ugliness underneath. What you do next is the universal moral choice.
Nobody's going to do shit because of a cartoon. That's the problem.
Every cartoon 'satire' nowadays just keeps pulling away the blanket and showing an ugly rotting corpse. But everybody fucking knows about this corpse already. It's not shocking anymore. It's lazy. Nobody gives a shit.

>>90186291
Before she and Peter were married, yes.

>>90186199
Lots of pussies in this world my friend

>>90177345
If you give a scrub a cookie...

>>90176528
What's wrong with that exactly?

>>90186501
it's less about being offended and more about family guy being stupid and unfunny

>>90186531
And what shows do you think are funny?

The closest live action equivalent of Family Guy I can think of is the George Lopez Show.

It's completely unfunny and just consists of a bunch of awful, irredeemable people being awful to each other and trying to push the message that everything is shit and awful and you should always see the worst in things. It's not a show you watch to relax and laugh. It's a show to make you even more bitter and cynical.

I think the worst kind of jokes in neo Family Guy are when they just describe how something is bad. Off the top of my head there's a bit where Peter works at a bowling alley and the entire cutaway is just him standing at the counter taking a phone call and describing all the ways bowling alleys are sad and creepy, and one where he's at a concession stand at an MLB game just casually describing how all the food is overpriced and unremarkable and the bathrooms are gross. There are no jokes, he and another character are just describing things. Admittedly, they're right, bowling and concession stands suck, but it's not like, interesting commentary, it's just tearing into something out of nowhere with no lead in or analysis.

>>90186634
I always remember the George Lopez show as starring that Albanian lady whose name felt just Spanish enough that they felt she could feasibly pass as a Latina actress. She played his daughter.

>>90186523
Nothing really, but it apparently upsets the snowflakes as seen by this thread

>>90184150
It gets a laugh out of me for just how much effort goes into each scene. Some of their old stuff was pretty funny.

>>90183897
It's the opposite for me. I can watch the Simpsons at its lowest point, but I legit skipped Family Guy for a whole season due to how shit it became.

>>90176528
No one likes you Mr. Enter.

>>90186127
Fuck off

>>90186887
It was passable the first few years, but it's pretty played out now.
>>90186907
>watching The Simpsons past season 10
You have issues

Season 1 and 2 had morals surprisingly but when Mcfarlene realized that he didn't have to put effort and people would still watch is when the writing became so cancerous. Honestly that's what is happen to rick and morty right now. Season 2 is almost all rehashes of Season 1 premises just tweaked.

>>90186199

That being a given, why do we need cartoons that are even more horrible?

>>90186294

See, this is why I am a 'Steven Universe' guy.
Well, and 'Bojack Horseman'. And 'Star versus the Forces of Evil'.

>>90186546

Uh. 'Rick and Morty'?

Because its easier to be negative than it is to be positive.

>>90182074
just literally anyone lying in bed trying to go to sleep watching it on endless syndication.

family guy is the new MASH...

>>90186698
things like this actually make me thing Seth might be a sperg

>>90186957
Please. Family Guy was popular because people got tired of the Simpsons and saw it as a breath of fresh air. Then it got revived and missed the point entirely, going downhill quicker and faster than Simpsons did. Anyone that says Family Guy is better than the Simpsons at this point has shit taste. The Simpsons doesn't attempt shit like >>90181747 or uses mean-spirited humor to the extent that Family Guy does. Lisa sucks ass, that's a given. But even then, I'll take Lisa taking over an episode over Peter being a fucktard or cutaways being dragged on for over two minutes (Again, >>90181747).

>>90177389
why did it stoped?
and who got voted out after season 1?

>>90187399
>Family Guy was popular because people got tired of the Simpsons and saw it as a breath of fresh air

Citation needed

>>90182074
>ratings are lower than back when it was originally canceled
soon

>>90187455
Sorry, not all social observations have Wikipedia-styled citations to them.

>>90188208
So your theory is bullshit, got it

>>90188383
That's a different anon replying to you, numbnuts.
Source: Being alive before 2000 and being neck-deep in 90's television and peers who realized the Simpsons was going downhill and saw Family Guy as a breath of fresh air. There's a reason it got revived and if you weren't sucking your mother's nipple, you'd know how much it was killing in the ratings on AS.

>>90187306
this honestly, before i got my own computer i used it as background noise

>>90188567
One show got popular because another show was losing it's popularity....right.
Family Guy was a completely different show than The Simpsons. Simpsons was more like a real life sitcom and Family Guy embraced that it was a cartoon.

>>90179168
>t. It's too far when the boy is the one crying

>mean spirited

this meme again

>>90188663
And people compared them, because two animated shows on Fox. King of the Hill was its own thing, and couldn't be compared. Family Guy had a very similar look to the Simpsons, hence it was easier to compare and contrast. Once again, this was the various people that saw Family Guy from the start, and then the revival. Ten years is a long time.

>>90184128
You aren't very good at context. There's nothing wrong with making people laugh. You just won't have a lot of luck going up to people and shouting "FUCK YOU HAHA GET IT?"

>>90188922
The difference is, with Family Guy, it's genuinely mean. This isn't like calling a banana cream pie to the face inconsiderate.

I think Family Guy is often described as mean-spirited because there's no real emotion behind it. Or at least it doesn't feel that way. Its jokes aren't rooted in commentary or grievances the writers or characters actually have. They're not trying to say anything or bring something to attention. They're not observations on the world within the show or the real world. They're just a collection of asides that eventually pile up enough to hang a story on. There's even cutaway setups that lead to cutaways that are about completely unrelated things There's scenes that are just people talking while Stewie babbles on about something that's happening offscreen. Whether or not this is funny is subjective. But there definitely feels like there's a lack of passion or desire. So whenever a joke happens it may feel mean-spirited because there's nothing else to back it. It's done because the nature of the show demands it but not because it's rooted in literally anything else.

>>90176528
It's a reflection of the times

>>90183392
>the entire thing is making fun of how stupid these stereotypes actually are if you really play them out to their inevitable conclusion.
I think you're reaching a bit here.

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Can someone explain to me what the joke's supposed to be here?

>>90190274
It's making fun of Heath Ledger's death

>>90181747
Wait I remember a light version this scene but

>>90187196
Why are you putting shows in quotes? It isn't grammatically correct unless your formatting your 4chan posts into MLA. This is worse than that time you used a semi-colon to connect dependent clauses without a conjunctive phrase, anon.

>>90190274
>A joke 9 years too late

Jesus christ

>>90190965
Well, it would be "mean" to do it right after he died, wouldn't it?

>>90187452
it stopped because they ran out of ideas

>>90177389
This show was the epitome of edgy, try hard shit

>>90190965
>TDK was 9 years ago
fuck

>>90191117
This. It's unwatchable.

>>90190389
American Dad did this joke better, and like a few months after it happened.

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>>90176528
>mean spirited

>>90190199
>>the entire thing is making fun of how stupid these stereotypes actually are if you really play them out to their inevitable conclusion.
>I think you're reaching a bit here.

Looks like you've never watched the show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDoIUccosTg

>>90181747
Iirc it was actually that Homer came home and killed quagmire and marge who were having an affair, then homer kills Bart before killing himself.

>>90192013
What was the context?

>>90192635
>defending pointless edge

>>90192635
I'm pretty sure a fedoralord would LIKE Family Guy.

>>90176528
>>90176604
Wow. Someone else shares the same thoughts as me. I agree.

>>90184285
Last time I talked about it with people, I was a teenager

An old family guy joke would be peter meeting a celebrity saying hi and then saying " who the hell are you ". Now it's Peter kidnaps and tortures them

>>90184285
It's difficult to talk about, even on /co/. The gags are so self-contained all you can really do is recite them.

>>90186957
>>90186887
>>90184213
>>90184285
>>90184150
Robot chicken has been painful to watch since like 2011

>it's already 2017

Where did the time go? In any case Robot Chicken is played out and boring and has been for a long time but back in its heyday in the 2000s it was great stuff. Or maybe that brand of comedy appeals primarily to teenagers, I don't know.

>>90193894
>The American political system is older than most European political system,

It is also openly corrupt. Anyone can give campaign funding to any senator.

>>90193345
no family guy is too lowbrow

>>90194086
What do they care? They LIKE needless edginess. They eat up the HAHA RELIGION IS DUMB humor.

Has the definition of a fedora wearer changed this much?

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>>90193894
Anonymous, political expert.

>>90194122
>What do they care?
Family guy has become too normie. Above all, the pseudo-intellectual needs to feel transcendant. This is why the neckbeard eschews religion as the opiate of the masses.

>They LIKE needless edginess. They eat up the HAHA RELIGION IS DUMB humor.
This also describes the average 4chan browser.

>>90194185
>This also describes the average 4chan browser.
Most people choose not to factor /b/tards.

>>90176528
>ITS MEAN SPIRITED
Mr Enter please

>>90194237
That madman watched all of the animated shorts

You could hear his frustration and hatred for Seth

>>90194233
As someone who's recently browsed /b/ for the first time in years, it had saner discussion than lots of interest boards. How the mighty have fallen.

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>>90183897
I am surprised you can still watch Family Guy but not The Simpsons. The Simpsons has a "lost it's spark" thing going on, but Family Guy is actually contemptible, with characters who make me genuinely angry with their bullshit. I can't even bring myself to watch Brian Griffin episodes at this point because the character is just so utterly fucking horrible to watch and listen to. I want to punch Brian Griffin in the face.

>>90183380
The third Seth is the ancient Egyptian god of evil and darkness. He writes those sitcoms your girlfriend watches.

I think the one thing that gets me about this show is that it really, really hates Jewish people. To the point that there's a joke where Peter is in the airplane and he goes "Wow! There's a map where you press in buttons where you want your poop to land! Why is the synagogue button worn out?" or the "I made a Jew flattening machine" and so on. Like, it's gotten to the point where it feels like the writers of Family Guy really fucking despise Jewish people. Is it cause the banned episode and they're just that bitter over it?

I feel like this show doesn't understand how they contradict their own messages.

"Ew! Look at gay people! They're such sexual deviants! They'd fuck their own children!
...but Gay people should have marriage equality.
-BUT EEEWWWWW! Look how gross gay people are!"

At this point I kinda have to like Family Guy simply because of how much it triggers /co/.

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Reminder that Family Guy stole a joke from Chris Chan

>>90194652
If you want to make fun of anti-Semitism, then it needs to hinge on making fun of anti-Semites, not depict their views from the view of the audience/FG's universe (which the audience is supposed to identify with) and leave them largely unchallenged.

Same for anything else, like misogyny or homophobia or whatever.

>>90176528
I get what you mean OP. It's really just unpleasant more than humorous. American Dad is so much better it's ridiculous. I appreciate how the Smiths don't hate each other.

https://youtu.be/jEQEmqD1JYg

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>>90176528
Because the people working on it hate the fucking show. Their anger permeates their humor.

>>90176528
>so mean spirited about literally everything

So why does 4chan hate it? This is literally your voice

>>90194913
>I appreciate how the Smiths don't hate each other.
But they do hate each other. Stan hates his whole family with a white-hot passion. He occasionally even tries to kill them.

>>90186634
>>90186735

That entire show is a complete enigma to me. Maybe I just catch it during odd times but every episode I've seen seems to revolve around Lopez freaking out about his slutty daughter being a slut and the ending moral is that you should let your daughter be slutty cause nothing in the god damn world can stop it. Maybe it's just a mexican thing cause all the mexican women I know have always been scanks.

>>90184487
>but the lack of any seriousness at all does help, doesn't it?
>'Family Guy' brushes up against realism sometimes and that makes it so depressing.

Probably this.

>>90190626
Have you ever been bullied? Be honest.

Yeah I don't get the hate for Family and Robot Chicken. It's not supposed to be a show of deep characters and morals. It's just cartoon violence and dumb jokes and word play to get some cheap laughs. You might as well bitch about Loony Tunes being mean spirited since Daffy never seems to care that he spends all day plotting the death of his only friend.

>>90194859
It doesn't really need to though.

>>90190626
It's probably correct convention in his native language. In French you're supposed to write titles in italic and capitalize only the first common name and the adjectives preceding it. Language is weird.

>>90196381
But anon, I need to pretend to have high standards while masturbating to Star vs.

>>90176528
About half the shows I can't watch as a rerun on Netflix. They are either mean spirited or preachy.


They even have the unaired "abortion" one where Lois is carrying the baby for a couple that dies, so she has an abortion rather than bear it and give it up for adoption to let the couple's legacy live on.

>>90196381
To be fair, Family Guy didn't start out as malicious as it is nowadays. It's pretty damn different from its earliest incarnation.

As for Robot Chicken. IDK. I just prefer something more coherent.

>>90193063
no it wasn't, Quagmire killed them all
>you killed my Homie! I'm calling the police!

>>90196381
But at no point in Loony Toons does Daffy stop, look towards the viewer and try to say, at the end of the day, the constant cycle of violence often makes him consider just fucking ending it.

I mean, all he wants is to fucking be somebody, but no, everybody loves that fucking shit-eating grin-wearing rabbit. He's a living, breathing being with thoughts and feelings, yet he lives in a world where men still want to cut off his head and mount it on their walls for fucks sake. Do you know what its like to see your family murdered only to be served for dinner? You'd be a fucking cynic too.
And that fucking rabbit, he has it easy. All he has to do is rewrite a fucking sign and suddenly every day is duck season. Hundreds of his kind are slaughtered yearly because of this.

>>90176528

Jews

>>90176528
\
>look at me, IIIMMM VIRTUE SIGNALING, WAAAAAAAAAA

>>90194782
What

When was this

>>90181745

take some drugs man, you just wanna laugh and laugh and laugh and not face reality, and anything that goes to reality is going to make you mad

just take some drugs and stop bitching

nothing is original because its all been done you all say, geeze

>>90176528

>Why is this fucking show so mean spirited about literally everything?

"Family Guy" is a mirror to modern American culture. Nobody gives a shit, nobody wants to be nice without getting something in return, nobody wants to work towards making the world a better place.

You know, just like 4chan.

>>90176686
It's a little bit like 4 chan
When you come here you expect to have a little fun and waste a bit of time
But after a little fun you start to feel horribly and that feeling lasts for a long while after you are done

Difference is when watching family Guy you never get the initial fun, it's all just horrible from begging to end

>>90196535

Jesus fuck that's dark.

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>>90196381
>hating on Robot Chicken

What is WRONG with you Anon?

>>90198144
And the worst part is they only reveal that in the literal last 3 seconds and then BAM! Credits roll.

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>>90176528
Stewey gets
Aids
It's Brian's fault
He dies at the hospital

It's weird that we never have these threads about South Park. Sure, plenty of people say it's past its prime, but very rarely does anyone call it unwatchable or say it's as bad as family guy/zombie simspons. Is it because they keep trying new things and periodically changing up the status quo? Is it because the ease of producing episodes lets the content stay topical? Is it because Parker and Stone are legitimate comedy geniuses?

>>90198623
Honest-to-God it's because Matt and Trey aren't annoying, or at least when they ARE annoying they're not as annoying as Seth.

>>90198623
South Park took jabs at everybody and were self-aware enough to know how far they could go before shit goes too far.

Family Guy just tries too hard at being offensive towards everybody and it doesn't know when to stop, so the jokes fall flat makes the characters unsympathetic to boot, such as the one cutaway "gag" where Peter disembowels a whale or that one episode where Brian lets Stewie and at least a dozen other children get physically abused and neglected in a daycare center just because the woman running it was physically attractive.

>>90198825
>They tried to make you feel bad about Brian dying
>After all the shit they did in the show

I felt about as bad as I would seeing a serial killer get lethal injection.

>>90198330
This episode is the single greatest shredding since Wolfgang Pauli called a colleague's paper so bad "it's not even wrong."

>>90198977
Shit that Brian has done
>Say "so you do go all the way" to his girlfriend who admitted to being sexually assaulted
>Allowed toddlers to be abused and neglected just he could try sleeping with the owner
>Only turned the owner in when he found out she had a girlfriend
>Gave Stewie and Chris herpes
>Slept with Cheryl Tiggs just to make Quagmire jealous
>Tricked a blind girl into dating him by changing the sound of his voice
>Tried to rape Lois
>Took advantage of his son's fame to try and become a writer for his show.
>Fired Stewie as an agent because a talk show changed guests at the last moment and never apologized for it.
>Tried to fuck Meg's friend just because he saw her in a changing room at school
>Convinced Meg to allow herself to be abused by her shitty family and take back all the things she said.
>Cheated on his fiance because he thought she was too old.
>etc.

Yet the writers still wanted us to feel bad that he was dead and this is just the shit I could remember.

>>90198623

>topical

this

people want to escape, period

but they also dont understand why comedy is comedy and why things are funny

>>90199246
>>Only turned the owner in when he found out she had a boyfriend
Fuck, don't know what I was thinking there.

>>90190626
The joke seemed to go over these other anons' heads.

>>90179168
Didn't he like being beaten by her?

>>90199571
Family Guy is so schizophrenic when it comes to their continuity, it's hard to take anything seriously.

Like Miles "Chatterbox" Musket started off as a keet motor mouth, then we find out that Peter's ancestor founded Quahog and that he was a myth, but then we found out in another episode that Miles was actually real and that he killed his son, beat his wife, and was a horrible drunk to boot.

It's best just to ignore it.

>>90197552
Nail on the head. Fuck Bugs. Daffy just wants his moment, but we have to like Bugs and laugh at Daffy's misfortune. I hate when shows, cartoons, etc. tell me I'm supposed to like something. Fuck you. I don't like people being fucked over if they don't deserve it and I don't care for your pretty boy fujobait heroes, either, KT (Unrelated, but my point stands.).

>>90187452
It was the pee in Matt & Trey's wheaties.

>>90199821
>Finally gets his time to shine
>All he ever fuckin wanted
>Bugs is just like "Go ahead", seems pretty cool
>Its all a fucking ruse
>Daffy gets fucked over one last time before credits

>>90199821
Daffy did win that one time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvY3TwwLq_0

>>90200354
>Why isn't Daffy using his god-given natural flying advantage?
Kek, I love this.

>>90186199
You made my point for. The world is a terrible enough place. Why should I actively strive to make it shittier? You should always try to make the world a better place and being a dick to every one is the surest way to not do that.

>>90182074
>>90184176

Honestly not even sure about the kids audience.

About every normie "lol omg snapchat etc." kid/teen I know outright say they hate it.

They like American Dad and Rick and Morty

>>90186199
Because even if it's true, actively making the situation worse doesn't help anyone involved and just makes you look like a jackass.

Like if you took a dollar from someone, would you honestly expect them to let you get away with it just because you said "well corporations steal millions of dollars so it doesn't matter that I took this dollar from you."

All I've seen Family Guy ever be is a repeating cycle
>everything is normal
>any one of the characters starts doing something different
>it slowly starts going too far
>conflict with other characters ensues
>they resolve and say sorry to each other
>everything is normal again

>>90181739
>I want to fuck xandir
WE all do anon. We all do.

>>90178806
Go fuck yourself.

>>90195368
There are too many episodes about how much he secretly loves his family more than his own life to take that at face value.

>>90176567
fpbp

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>>90176604
This. I don't like Drawn Together, but it managed topush more censorship boundaries than Family Guy and somehow the main cast seems to tolerate eachother more than the Griffins do.

>>90176528
Honestly that's how I feel about South Park. As stupid and offensive as family guy jokes are, some of them are at least a little clever. South Park makes no effort to make you laugh. It's goal is to just be as offensive and shocking as possible.

Typical South Park "joke": "fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck fuck pussy balls shit cock abortion go fuck a dog fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck"

>>90203698
I think you're confused, Family Guy is the show that featured an episode where Stewie gets pregnant by Brian's test tube babies.

>>90203698
Have you not watched a single episode since the movie or something? This is such a 90's opinion on South Park.

>>90177389
The diference between FG and DT is that DT is so over the top that it's actually funny, while FG just feels like the writers are assholes that actually make fun off a certain demographic.

I mean seriously if you watch shit like this and take it seriously then you need to go back to Tumblr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=134HzozSW1Q

Robin becomes Nightwing
BB ends with Terra
Cyborg ends with Jinx
Raven ends with Starfire

There, literal perfection.

>>90176686
I actually enjoy 4chan though. On Family Guy, Peter thinks people who put that little dash when writing "7" should kill themselves. That's it. There's no joke, just boring pettiness.

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>>90176528
Family Guy was alright from Seasons 1-3. 4 and 5 seemed off, but was funny. 6 was the tipping point downwards. Haven't seen this show since 2010

>>90205654
>I actually enjoy 4chan though.
The fuck is wrong with you,

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>>90197873
In sonichu chris went through a transformation/crossover where he becames peter griffin-like. Its funny though because that bersion is more accurate.

>>90205654
You're not suppose to enjoy 4chan...

The nastiness in Family Guy was always there from day one though.

Remember, in terms of animation evolution, Family Guy was sort of the "compromise" that came about by McFarlane and Fox trying to bridge the gap between Simpsons and new kid on the block South Park. It had South Park's shock value and cruel streak, but fashioned in a way to get on network TV.

That being said, the uptick in cruelty is said to be because of >>90181762. Seth had a huge breakdown around 2008-2011 in that he wanted to end Family Guy and do other shit but got told by Fox that he will keep making Family Guy forever. Furthermore, Ted was held hostage due to the surprise success of the first Star Wars parody forcing him to complete the trilogy. Seth was wanting to do other shit but constantly having Family Guy shoved into his face and him growing to hate the show. His relationship with fans also turned to shit: the infamous episode where Brian is outed as atheist (an episode which he took great pride in) was shitted on by everyone and pretty much turned the entire fanbase against Brian.

His response was to push more over the top sadistic shit onto the show over the staff writers objections until he finally cracked, when the writing staff revolted against a Quagmire episode Seth pitched, devoted to Quagmire stalking and kidnapping a woman for rape.

>>90207370
>>Continued
The end result was Seth going off and writing "Brian and Stewie". It had zero cutaways (a response to critics, Trey Parker and Matt Stone in particular) who complained about their overuse, and featured Brian serving as an avatar for Seth to discuss how depressed and miserable and suicidal he felt over not achieving anything of worth in his life.

The episode where Brian and Stewie write plays was also built on this sort of therapeutic purging of bad thoughts from Seth over his life being fucked up. Similarly, the hurricane episode was part fan service (having Meg finally tell her family to fuck off) and part Seth attacking his critics by having him justify Brian shitting on Meg by establishing her as a literal martyr, who's suffering has a purpose in the general scheme of the universe (IE the Griffins would be even worse people if they didn't have a divine object of hatred)

>>90201666
It's Mexicans and black people stuck with basic cable I bet

>>90206872
>...
Faggot. I enjoy drawfagging and having laughs. Speak for yourself you miserable shit.

>muh mean spirited

I didn't want to believe it, but this place really is /co/umbler

>>90207810
You're fucking retarded. This phrase has been around for a long time and it actually applies to this shitshow. But go ahead and redirect me to tumblr even though i've been around since 2007.

>>90207746
You must be an autistic sperg than. Carry on killing yourself.

>>90207850
You're getting triggered over a show you don't even watch, sounds like the epitome of tumbler to me

>>90207871
>enjoying my time on an imageboard is autistic
>miserably browsing isn't
Off yourself, guy.

>>90184487
>'Family Guy' brushes up against realism sometimes and that makes it so depressing.

The episodes where they suddenly want you to take the characters seriously are embarassing and make everything 10x more depressing.

Stewie and Brian locked in the bank or Meg standing up for herself during the thunderstorm.

>>90186199
The tone just seems bitter and angry. Something like It's Always Sunny is a show about terrible people who constantly fuck each other over but still manages to feel like a comedy.

>>90186698
They did a similar one where for 2 minutes Peter and Quagmire are just naming incongruent items you might find at a pharmacy.

Is Family Guy produced just to waste my time?

>>90186968
Season 1 you could identify and sympathize with the characters to some degree. It was jarring rewatching first season episodes where Brian goes to therapy and tries to work out his issues.

Now every character is either a boring robot or an unlikable ass

>>90190126
>>90197974
Exactly this.

As bitter and fucked up as most of its jokes are, it basically reflects mainstream American thought. Which is often bitter and fucked up.

>it's a /pol/ vs /co/mblr thread
>people somehow defending family guy's anti funniness for the sake of hating phrases they thought tumblr made
Why,

>>90194652
Would Seth the enlightened progressive who loves Star Trek TNG and it's humanist ideals be heartened to know how many racists love his most popular creation?

>>90194694
>20 minutes of cheap degrading jokes
>5 seconds of self righteous lecturing to justify this

>>90195035
I remember reading in some interview (may have been Alec Sulkin) where apparently they were trying to retool the show and make the scripts better and the characters less hatable.

Couldn't find the exact article but found this quote;
>We know who these characters are at this point, so it can be hard to give them new insight, but it is something we work on. Regarding the plots, a lot of times the first act is disconnected from the rest of the show. We call that the first-act mislead. We’ve been doing it for a long time, but I think in episodes that aren’t as strong, it feels like a more glaring issue.

They stole the first act mislead from The Simpsons

>>90208291
It's Always Sunny is better at comedy because you know the main group are a bunch of people trying to fuck each other over for personal gain. They don't apologize for it to make the audience sympathize. Even episodes where they seem like theyre doing a good deed (ie. Cheering Charlie up) it's done because (They're aftaid Charlie will go postal and kill them).

>>90198623
South Park may have faltered in the last couple seasons but they did it trying something new. I can respect that and they were still trying to do something difficult and new.

Family Guy is just lazy writing. The jokes don't have to be connected to anything. The character arcs don't have to make sense. The stories don't need to be resolved. The show is structurally lazy.

That said, some people don't give a shit and just want fart jokes and they're welcome to it.

>>90208552
>The jokes don't have to be connected to anything.

This. All people care about are the jokes. They should really just ditch the whole episode thing, and just make a ton of individual joke videos and put them on youtube.

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>>90203698
Fuck off, Sheila

>>90204267
DT was the most clever dirty show I've ever seen. The sheer number of euphemisms for vagina was amazing.

>>90203698
South Park is shit and only kids who haven't had their balls drop yet think otherwise

>>90176528
the writers no longer have to try in order to make bank

>>90176604
I agree completely.

Drawn Together had its own mini-Family Guy problem in its eventual addiction to Captain Hero, the one truly mean-spirited character much of the time.
But at least you got a sense that the others were sort of likable, despite their crassness and flaws.

Family Guy has slowly evolved, like South Park, into a breeding ground for... well, you know.

>>90208511
Exactly. Cheering Charlie up because they're afraid he'll go postal is a really funny premise. Most of Family Guys plots are really threadbare and exist just to fill the airtime.

Family Guy breaks the cardinal rule of comedy every week by having the characters abruptly apologizing to each other for their horrible behaviour near the end of most episodes. Undercuts the comedy completely.

>>90198623
In addition to what the others said, I think it also helps the South Park has a tiny bit of a heart. I think Matt and Trey have mostly enjoyed working on the show for its entire 20 season run. Most characters' flaws lie in stupidity rather than carelessness or sadism. Matt and Trey have enough comedic talent that they don't need to constantly rely on being edgy and offensive alone. Some of the "morals" are truly heartfelt (whereas FG is usually disingenuous, or only gives a moral to claim superiority over other people). South Park has one token reprehensible asshole, Family Guy has nearly the whole main cast. Even then, Cartman's more sympathetic, and he loses just as often as he wins. The characters don't all hate or mistreat each other.

South Park's also helped by how crude the animation is. Any violence is so cartoonish that how inoffensive is looks is part of the joke.

I'm not even a big fan of South Park and haven't generally enjoyed it since around season 7 or so.

>>90208607
They already did that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3vjJZBMQbQ

Weird that people weren't into it. Surely people aren't invested in the characters and stories in Family Guy? But without the pretense of the show setting up the cutaways, they aren't as funny.

Family Guy is nothing but artifice barely holding itself together.

Someone make a Star Trek joke about structural integrity failing.

>>90197552
Please note, the Daffy/Bugs feud didn't first appear until 1951, some 20 years after the characters debut.

Daffy and Bugs both had a long career of successful solo cartoons before Jones had the idea to pit them against each other.

It was a novel idea at the time and Friz Frelend added to the relationship by adding the premise of Daffy being jealous of Bugs being the star but WB has recycled it non stop ever since.

Every time we get a new Looney Tunes movie or show, it's about Bugs and Daffy. i think the world is ready for the daffy Daffy again.

>>90210120
That's what happens when networks stop listening to content makers and try to steer content by themselves.

>>90210281
Well, the content makers are dead in this case.

>>90206216
No what was the FG episode?

When you compare early seasons to later season the difference is staggering.

Take Joe for example. The whole point to him was that despite being handicapped he still was a good guy and a good cop even though he had other flaws. In the later seasons he is a depressed sack of shit who wants to kill himself 24/7. His heroic backstory was even retconned to make him look even more pathetic. In the early seasons they still had a lot of jokes about him being handicapped but never anything close to him being a failed human being because of it. Give season 1 Joe a gun and he'd take down a criminal, give the new Joe a gun and he'd shoot himself.

>>90194694
Like that episode where Peter chooses to be gay by taking a drug, starts acting flamboyant and even leaves his family to have gay orgies, But the message is that no one chooses to be gay and that gay people are alright.

>>90194694

You can not like what they do but still want them to be married.

I don't like scat doesn't mean i think people who participate in scat shouldn't be allowed to be married and we should hate them.

Its also humor you can make jokes about something and not hate something.

>>90210881
He doesn't choose to be gay the drug itself made him gay it changed his sexual preference he couldn't find women attractive anymore and found men attractive.

>>90211223
But people who like scat shouldn't marry at all though

>>90211299
People who like scat shouldn't be allowed to live

>>90211223
Isn't the premise that a drug can "turn" you gay offensive to begin with?

>>90181517
>Captain Hero on the other hand will use a women as a bullet shield

Why? Hasn't he been shown to have invulnerability?

I just dropped the series after the episode where Meg finds religion and was actually happy for once, then Brian had to go ruin it with the "There is no God because you're ugly" shtick even though he DIRECTLY TALKED TO JESUS HIMSELF.

>>90184529

No, he's quite correct actually.

>>90189483
>You just won't have a lot of luck going up to people and shouting "FUCK YOU HAHA GET IT?"

I mean, I did have a very mild chuckle, But it has to be straight-faced, possibly angry and shouted.

>>90177357
American dad is much better than family guy by the way

>>90205942

THAT was pretty cathartic. Lucy deserves that

>>90194384
I've noticed that too

People on /b/ definitely sound more level headed and connected to reality than most of 4chan

>>90194584
I lold

>>90208273
Don't forget the episode where they reintroduce Quagmire's sister and spend 22 minutes teetering between being painfully unfunny abuse jokes and incredibly offensive portrayals of abuse (victims).

I'm not going to say that comedies can't have serious moments but when you spend one episode showing a whale being disemboweled and another episode trying to be a PSA for domestic abuse, it just becomes uncomfortable because you don't know whether you're supposed to laugh at the abuse joke or if you're supposed to take it at face value.

>>90211722
I don't understand how atheism exists in Family Guy when Jesus went on live television and announced himself to the world. At that point, being an atheist is like believing that the world is flat.

>>90212493
Thing is, they already did this joke in "Lethal Weapon" when Lois kicked her in the head once. Peter beating up a little girl a quarter of his age for over a minute was just really uncomfortable to watch.

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>>90206872

>>90210654
Road to germany

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>>90213836
Those are the worst. Like when Joe's son returns and people find out he's a deserter and it's just a badly handled conversation with Peter making random inappropriate comments throughout. They handle pretty much every sensitive topic terribly while congratulating themselves on how progressive they are for tackling it. Like the one with Quagmire's dad transitioning. Before it aired they announced it would be an amazing portrayal of a transwoman but they had the characters calling her 'it' and Brian vomiting for over a minute because he had sex with her. They said the already mentioned gay episode would be a good portrayal as well.

They also have a lot of PSAs aimed at people who'd never watch Family Guy like Christian Scientists and the Amish. And it's not like their own audience is waiting for a badly handled PSA.

>>90214661
I don't know what it is with liberals and badly handled PSA's. It's the same shit as when nuPPG did an episode that was about a horse who wanted to be a unicorn.

Nobody asked you to make a PSA and the world would've been better off if you hadn't done it in the first place.

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>>90186240
>genetic
KEK

>>90176528
Because Seth thinks he is by far the smartest person on the planet and has absolutely no self awareness.

Ever heard an interview with him? He's not making fun of himself with Brain. He's hanging out inside his own cartoon world as a cartoon dog.

>>90200354
Mother fucker I am not watching an hour long video, summarize negro!

>>90196535

...That's not unaired, I saw that episode. On Comedy Central.

>>90190626

*you're

I am sorry, I'm not even sure what the convention is.

>>90190274

..No joke. There is literally no joke there.

>>90200812
>>90201780

Right on.

>>90203698

...You stopped watching after season 2 or something?

>>90207871

Speaking as an autistic sperg (that was redundant and repetitive): Yeah, we exist, and some of us even enjoy 4chan.

So why should we kill ourselves?

>>90211379

We know physical changes and changes to your brain chemistry can alter your behaviour.

So, frankly, it's likely a pill that can turn you gay is actually a theoretical possibility.

>>90211695

Absolutely.

>>90212493

Lucy is just trying to teach Charlie not to be too trusting. One day, Charlie was going to say "No. Not today," and just turn and walk away and Lucy would whisper '"finally".

>>90213899

Do you believe everything you see on TV? Besides, Jesus also said in the show that he is a just a figment of people's imagination.

>>90214430

That looks cute. Is that from 'Wander over yonder'?

>>90176861
>linkin park
> relevant in 2017

>>90215872
>Do you believe everything you see on TV?
He physically stood on water in front of a shitload of people, made Lois' tits grow twice their size, telekinetically threw a lamp without actually being in a room, and other such miracles.

Considering he allowed the fame to go to his head, it's assumed that he performed similar feats offscreen while either drunk or high off his ass.

>>90215894
Samurai Jack : The Final Act

>>90216059

ok.

>>90177389
I tried to watch this show and got bored. I'm not against mean spirited humour, but this show was just not funny.

>>90215511
I'm not gonna "summarize" a fucking football game for you. You want me to give a description of every individual play?

>>90190274
The joke was Peter wanted to get rid of all the vaccines because current hot topic from dumb people was they're bad for you and Peter always does current dumb thing. So his method of getting rid of the vaccines was to blow up the hospital, but they wanted to reference the scene from TDK because it had loads of splosions and the funny bit where one went off late and Joker does the hilarious annoyed reaction. It really makes it easy when you don't need to think up your own creative way of Peter doing something similar. This way they can make people think they're sort of intelligent because they referenced something they've seen.

>>90193703
>2017
>Robot Chicken came out around 2006

I guess when you're nothing but referencing things, you can keep going forever.

>>90197552
shit, I think I now understand why I liked Duck Dodgers so much as a kid

>>90207746
It's a meme you dip.

>>90194694
Or portraying weed as a magic potion that can fix all of society's problems, and then showijng that the news crew are too baked to do their jobs.
Seth is pretty much the worst spokesman for whatever cause he champions.

It's a reflection of modern American culture.

Everyone is fucking angry all the time. Angry at the world, angry at other people, angry at themselves, just constant rage and vitriol and hatred being spit in all directions. Family Guy and shows like it (e.g. Robot Chicken, South Park) is that all-encompassing anger put to animated form.

>>90213948

Lucy has been treating others like shit for FIVE STRAIGHT DECADES. Getting savagely beaten is letting her off lightly, if anything.

>>90219700
This might surprise you to know but most normies don't get off to seeing a girl being beaten to within an inch of her life just for fucking with Charlie Brown for a few decades.

Like I said, they already did the joke during the third season and it was perfect for what it was, they didn't even need to take it that far.

>>90176528
Yeah, honestly the mean spiritedness is why I dropped the show.
I used to love it, watched it all the time. But then the characters just all became irredeemable assholes.

I dunno, I guess its along the same reason I don't really care for a lot of british comedies. Maybe I'm a pussy, but I generally like characters who are redeemable in some way.

>>90214741
It wasn't meant to be a PSA, one of the people who worked on the show (not a writer or animator) just said it was

>>90220000

Digits of truth. I don't enjoy people being assholes for the sake of it either. I mean who does? Actual assholes who enjoy being assholes.

>>90178806
I visit this site exclusively because i want to be entertained. I very rarely respond to any threads and never make them myself but i always manage to get a good laugh here.

>>90177389
I have seen exactly one episode of this, the plot had something to do with the pig and the princess pranking a pizza boy by ordering a pizza and then shitting on it.
I also recall some sort of robot aliens killed them all in the end and they also started to crap on their pizzas

>>90222740
"Entertained" is not always the same as laughing. Family Guy is not the same kind of cynical as 4chan.

>>90213836
Exactly. It's a tone issue. They'll snap from comedy where you're expected to laugh at everything that happens no matter how horrific is meant to be a joke to suddenly being asked to take the characters and the situation seriously.

>>90196381
Too bad none of what either show does is funny.

>>90214661
Their progressive episodes are really self defeating, they centre an episode around a controversial topic by making jokes that reinforce the views they're supposedly trying to dissuade.

>trannies are disgusting! Eeeeew!
>transexuals deserve to be treated with respect and you should know this
>But aren't they weird? What did they do with the penis!!

It's Always Sunny will sometimes do episode like this but the targets are much clearer. I'm thinking about the episode where Mac has sex with a transperson and makes an ass of himself with his backwards ideas about transpeople and trying to justify having sex with one to himself.

It's clear that he's the one being ignorant and meant to be laughed at, not the transperson.

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>>90215621
Dumb-dumbs will laugh at Peter in a silly costume

>>90213899
FG and South Park do this. You just kind of have to accept that they're parodying our society as it is now. Atheists and Christians are too easy a subject to just write away because it would be logical.

>>90191079
It stopped because of ratings. Writers have said they could have gone on indefinitely.

Knowing Fox and how they handle cancellations, probably spite. Show originally starts as a show that can be crude and push some borders, but is ultimately family-spirited and fairly good-natured, kinda like Bob's Burger (in the first two seasons the Intro song wasn't ironic). Gets canceled, Fox comes crawling back after adult swim made them popular, they come back mean mad.

>>90190274
It's literally just two references. One that is verbatim from another scene with the same punchline, and the other is just shock value.

This show has devolved into those Scary Movie 4, 5, 6 movies where there stopped being parody jokes and the jokes were just, "Hey! Remember MOVIE?".

>>90176528
Get the fuck off my board Enter

>>90204410
>Beast Boy/Terra

Terrible fucking taste, anon.

Beast Boy is for Starfire. Terra is for rocks.

>>90203698
Why is this guy in every single Family Guy hate thread

>>90221303
It's not like Sunny in Philadelphia where the characters are awful but get what's coming to them by the end of the episode.

One of FG's biggest problems from its start is that they try to pass off references as humor.
See: >>90190274
Besides it years late this scene is just 1) a reference to TDK and 2) a reference to Ledger's death.

There no joke at all. It's not even absurdist. It's just laziness on the writers part.

>>90176528
>mean spirited
End your life.

>>90199246
Don't forget the time when he became a realtor, he tricked Quagmire into buying a shithole despite the fact that after Brian lost all his teeth, Quagmire put his hatred of him aside and gave him money to get new teeth.

>>90227058
No, you.

>>90207886
>you don't even watch it!!

He never said that, & you never proved him wrong, you autist.

>>90227058
That's a pretty mean spirited post

>>90226209
That's the difference, the characters are never forced by the writers to apologize when it's completely out of character.

They're the same terrible people every week and never learn or grow because they're meant to be funny and not taken seriously.

>>90227058
FG is legitimately mean spirited though.

All the jokes using crude humor are vapid, there's no wit to them whatsoever, it's just being mean just to be mean. And when it tries to not be "mean spirited" it does it in the most cliched way possible with no weight at all.

No one wants it to be Steven Universe but if you're gonna go lowbrow at least (try) be funny like South Park or Drawn Together.

>>90195366

Yeah seriously. This is basically 4chan: The Show.

>>90177389
Teen years is thinking Drawn Together is bad try hard and edgy

Adulthood is realizing that its not meant to be taken serious and its just being whacky and over the top for the sake of it.

>>90176528

kys

>>90177389
This show was actually funny, tho.

SUDDEN DEATH CHALLENGE MODE

Post every single scene of straight up domestic abuse from the show. From Peter beating Lois, to Peter beating Meg, to Peter beating Chris, to Lois beating Peter, to Lois beating Meg, to Lois beating Chris, and every other instance.

I want to see how fucked up they've become since i stopped watching 8 years ago.

>>90219834
Seth obviously got some sick sexual thrills from it
even showed up an upskirt when she got knocked out

>>90176528
Because it's funny.

>>90184150
Wrong.

>>90194387
GET OFF THE COMPUTER, GLEN.

>>90210120

Daffy pulled that shit with Porky before Bugs was even invented or color was in movies.

Daffy has a solo game but being jealous of the "real" star is very much his MO.

>>90186117
>Democrats want you to have personal freedom

Only if they are the "correct" ones

>>90231294
Yeah. I can understand why most stuff in Drawn Together (and even some of early Family Guy) is funny, but with modern Family Guy I just have to ask myself why on earth people are supposed to find it funny. It just seems entirely devoid of anything I understand as humor.

I'm starting to wonder if people laugh at it just because they know Family Guy is supposed to be a comedy show, which means the things that happen in it are funny and they're supposed to laugh. Like the audience is caught up in an Emperor's New Clothes situation where they don't want anyone else to think they don't get the joke.

>>90176528
>not wanting to see Lois get BLACKED

>>90186199
>>90186501
>>90186523
>>90186745
Why would you set out to watch mean spirited shit when that shit is part of every day life?
It's not about how much of a cool tough badass you are.
Also, samefag?

>>90211722
>>90213899
I'm pretty sure Stewie mentions that one episode.

>>90223967
Actually that's not true.

Family Guy was originally supposed to die with season two but one of the Fox executives liked Seth and agreed to give him one more season to try and make the show a hit.

Furthermore, according to Seth, Fox COULD have cock blocked AS from getting Family Guy when AS asked about getting the rerun rights but they agreed to sell them the rerun rights. Not to mention the effort they spent pushing the DVD release and responding to the success of the DVD sales by bringing it back with pretty much the entire cast intact

>>90176528
Honestly FG is refreshing for this reason when compared to other shows which try to soften the impact of characters asshole behavior by showing they secretly have a heart of gold to make them come off as "redeemable" for the audience.

>>90189985
So...zombie Family Guy.

I wish people knew when to pull the plug on their TV show.

>>90207370
>>90207416
>Creates one of the most recognizable icons in American culture but still feels like he needs "an avatar" to whine about how unaccomplished and miserable he feels even though there are dozens of people who would kill to have even a fraction of his success
>Uses those feelings as justification to continually start insulting and attacking anyone and everyone because nobody else "gets it"
The way you are describing this he sounds like a literal fucking sociopath.

>>90177389
$5000 w/5 extra safe condoms if you fuck boop; would you do it?

>>90240037
Or a writer who is despairing inside that he'll be forever remembered as the creator of a crass cartoon sitcom and will never be free of the show, as it has become a cash cow franchise that Fox will never let die again? One that will be remembered more than anything else, no matter how better it is, you do?

>>90240037

Lets not forget he also wants to be a singer like Frank Sinatra desperately and has put out several albums.

>>90207370
>His response was to push more over the top sadistic shit onto the show over the staff writers objections until he finally cracked, when the writing staff revolted against a Quagmire episode Seth pitched, devoted to Quagmire stalking and kidnapping a woman for rape.
Wait a minute what the fuck

>>90207370
Why did you get this info from? Especially the last part.

>>90239695
what fucking shows are you watching where FG is "refreshing"

>>90224054
>"Hey! Remember MOVIE?".
The pinnacle of modern comedy.

>>90197930
I'm sorry but fuck you and fuck your miserable nihilistic cynicism. If you want to give up on life, fine. But stop trying to drag the rest of us down with you.

>>90186199
Because it comes across as self-serving and masturbatory.

>>90176528

FG exist for fill timeslots in american television. Writers dont care about make FG better