>animation looks less fluid than the old show >music is

its not even out and retards are already complaining

The animation looks better than in the original desu

>>90171298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMIZD-JSf5k

That's enough.

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>>90170165
>Hear announcement of season 5
>ohboythislookscool
>watch all the series
>now Imma expert in Jack
>look at this animation
>so shallow and pedantic
>aren't I such a expert?!

Never change, /co/ntrarians.

>>90171324

it looks better than ever, take off your fucking nostalgia goggles m8.

>>90170165
Having the music coming from the guy who did the last God of War game really disappointed me. It was the definition of soulless.

>>90170165

>OP is an underaged cocksucking faggot

But what's your point?

The music isn't really inspired, but please go rewatch Jack if you think the animation's off.

>>90170165
Why the fuck didn't he take James L. Venable again. His music was at least interesting, not just an uninspired mix of generic shit

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>>90170165
Get a load of this faggot.

>>90171864
Guess what, old Samurai Jack had better animation. It wasn't really that fluid bit was more coherent in general. If you can't see the difference here, you are just a mindless drone like this retard >>90172117 who doesnt have his own opinion.

inb4 500 replies

Someitmes I wish /co/ was as autistic as /a/ and would never feed the trolls.

Then I look at /a/ and thank God that /co/ isn't that autistic

>>90171324
the CGI is an odd choice given that genndy's usual response to 'that's hard to draw in 3d' is 'just do it badly'
I like the wire twisting part!

>>90170165
Samurai JACK?!1!! More like...Samurai HACK!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>90172062
cuz nobody wants 2000s music
or at least execs don't

SAMURAI JACK IS BA_D

>>90172062
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At_Bv_pLM9k

>>90170165
>>animation looks less fluid than the old show

The old show had really uneven animation.

This was Hanna Barbera-tier animation, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO-davXntX4

>>90171324
it looks fucking awesome you jaded shithead

>>90172341
To be fair the later seasons had more effort/experimented with making the fight scenes look more interesting and fluid.

>>90172706
this, it got better with each new season

>>90172341
You can kind of tell they aren't used to animating this kind of thing though. Was there a single action show on CN before Samurai Jack? I don't remember any on CN, let alone one LIKE Samurai Jack. I always saw it as their answer to an 'adult animation' series on the network, but they could only get away with so much. Like there's a reason all of these 'robots' are 'robots.'

That aside though, the show does a good job of taking advantage of it's 'budget' issue. Which I find impressive. I mean you can tell they couldn't manage the most amazing fight scenes ever but they made the most out of what they could with pacing, sound design, scene composition, and atmosphere. The show really wants you to stop and look at it's scenes like a piece of art, and they're drawn with that in mind. It's interesting seeing the balance and contrast with the shapes and designs. It really helps blur the line between low budget/padding and intentionally still shots, so nothing feels too boring.

Also, I haven't seen most of the show since marathoning it recently, since I didn't grow up with cable, but I surprisingly rememberd a LOT of the scenes just from the imagery, and I had only seen little bits of the show. So I don't know how much that stands for, but it's surprisingly memorable because of those artsy choices I mentioned.

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>>90170165
>music is wub wub hollywood trailer garbage

The music in the first trailer was by Carpenter Brut, if they use more of it this season then you will be 100% wrong

>>90171995
I agree completely, but you should kill yourself tripfag

Is the music still done by Carpenter Brut like the trailer? Love that shit

>>90171324
It looks about the same quality as it used to. Its not like the old fights were the paragon of choreography and animation all the time. There is some noticeable CG with the wheels, but otherwise it looks just fine.

>>90173651
I assume thats just for the trailer. That kind of music is more of a toonami thing than a samurai jack thing.

Not that I'm complaining.

>>90171324
looks like Sym-bionic titan and Samurai Jack had a baby.


OHHHHHH YEAAAA BOIIII

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>>90170165
It looks good but pic related
Theres a point where instead of looking cool it is just cringworthy. I know its not a kids show anymore but man

>>90174511
>talking about cringeworthy
>USES the word "cringe" unironically
>or even uses it AT ALL

Off with your opinion /co/ntrarian.

>>90174511
I feel like they're going to intentionally do that in the first episode just to differentiate it from the rest of the series, then tone it down in later episodes.

The animation looks on par if not better than the original.

>>90174511
Its still in the spirit of the old seasons. Its just wiring, its not actual guts.

>>90174511
I agree with this. They're basically shoehorning the fact that
>SEE GUYS? THIS SHOW FROM YOUR CHILDHOOD IS FOR ADULTS NOW!

>>90170165
>It's a "someone who never really watched the original but now that a new season's coming out they're suddenly experts" episode

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>>90170165
>mfw they're saving the budget for the final battle

>>90175051
Samurai Jack is a show i watched in my childhood anon. Og course i may haven't liked it as much as everyoen here but i did like it. And i don't remember it being edgy at all

>>90175369
>He thinks that was edgy for Jack
>"I dot remember..."
>Proceeds to dump criticism based on decade old memories

Genndy literally cited that people would do this. It's funny how that works.

It looks fine if not a little better

>>90174511
>>90174946
Don't you guys remember Jack being completely covered head-to-toe in oil (robo-beetle blood)?

>>90174511
Meh I dunno its still just wires and shit

Even old Samurai Jack had similar moments. Remember the one where Jack got sick and viciously tore that one robotic civilian down the middle in slow motion as his "guts" spilled out?

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>>90170165

>>90172163
You're lying, and you have been since you started this thread OP. You are huge faggot that hasn't even watched an episode of Jack since it was on TV, otherwise you'd know your comparisons are wrong. Literally everything in the trailer has appeared in previous seasons of Samurai Jack

>>90174511
People don´t remember Jack obliterating the beetle-bots.

>>90171324
Dang das brutal

>>90174511
>Saying this about the show that had Jack covered in oil while he was slicing up bugs

It's baffling how many not-fans are acting like they're fans, then complaining about things that Jack has always done.

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>all these people complaining about the music
>obviously reflects that he doesn't have his sword
>no longer a samurai
>no longer cool samurai themed music
>yfw when he gets his sword back the music will return more to its older style to highlight the character change
>it'll still have more rugged electronic edges to reflect the man he's become

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>>90171298
welcome to 4chan

>>90170165
kinda has a "hello helper" feel to it

>>90171324
looks exactly the same as the old show except for that weird CG with the bike

>>90171324
>Animation looks the same

>not even a single wub in the example you grasped for.

kys

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Thanks adult channel

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>>90171324

>Robots used to bleed oil
>Now the wires look more distinctly like intestines.

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>>90179177
I got chills.

I-it's o-okay, they're j-just robots!

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>>90174511
fucking contrarians barely even watched the show

>>90171324
The motorcycle and gun part were kind of shitty. I think they were relying to much on the whole "Jack isn't just using his sword anymore, oh shit!" angle. I don't see any other reason for the emphasis on him pulling out a gun, something almost every villain in the series uses.

They should have put more focus on Jack translating his swordsmanship ability into shooting skillfully instead of just him blandly pulling the gun out and firing.

>>90174511
The original show had way nastier robot gore

>>90170165
I never liked the art style for this show.

>>90179415
People on /co/ don't actually watch cartoons they just pretend to.

>>90174511
It was brutal on purpose, just so you could see the alien family react with a side glance.
It's a joke, autismo.

>>90174511
I mean when you look those are WIRES.

>>90170165
Man I was so hyped for this but it looks pretty bad

>>90174511
>>90174946
Christ, I knew you faggot don't read comics, but I at least thought you guys watch Cartoons. This is nothing new for Jack. He was covered in oil by the 3rd episode.

>>90180960
It looks like old samurai jack did. Its not like the show had the best of choreography.

Looks better than some of the fights the old seasons had which were just repetitive shots of Jack slicing/defending himself.

>>90181056
Well I was expecting it to be better, since Genndy said that they all improved and are more experienced now in general. It doesn't seem like that.

>>90170165
>People dumping on this

Oh my god, /co/ really is the dumbest place on earth.

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>>90170165
Why does it have to look like shit? It seemed like the only enjoyable thing I had in months and it's not true at all

>>90171324
What budget did they have for this? It looks like a fan project for fucks sake

>hating on Tyler Bates

You're a cunt you know that?

>>90171324
Animation wise it looks the same as the original show. I don't know what the problem is.

>>90181383
His music is fucking generic, you realize that? Unless you are one of those people who think that Hans Zimmer is great. It's a fucking crime because they said in a featurette that the music is going to be unique for Samurai Jack. It is fucking not.

>>90181405
Nigger please, also I don't give a fuck about Hans Zimmer, Bates music works really well with SBT, Super, Guardians of the Galaxy, and I still stand by that

>>90181389
Nostalgia Im basically sure. People have super rosy memories of Samurai Jack that they forget the fight choreography wasn't even that great outside a few specific examples.

>>90170165
>animation looks less fluid than the old show
Why would you blatantly lie like this?
The animation on old SJ was never super fluid or impressive, it was just well directed

>>90181442
I watched Samurai Jack entirely on adult swim stream and I remember it perfectly. It was that shit only in seaon 1, it got better later on. Now it should have been better than season 4 yet we are back again.

It looks exactly the same and its the same exact sound effects

Is this literally just one guy who's pissed off about how "bad" this is going to be?

It honestly feels like one autistic guy just posting over and over

>>90181469
It probably is

>>90181454
It's not even well directed here, so what's your point exactly? Also shouldn't it be better than the original because they are supposedly better now?

lmao at all of the nostagiatards sperging in this thread

>>90171324
man it looks like ass

>>90171324
wtf is this

>>90181486
It is thought, it just as well directed as old Jack in that scene we see.
All the old tricks come back we've got close ups, slow-downs and black borders to help make the fight coherent and flowing. The internal shot where we see Jack spaghetti the internal wires is a great bit of direction.
You're just complaining for complaining's sake.

>>90171324
Doesn't look that bad. Still hyped

>>90171324
>>90179511
Mm, yeah. Also, they didn't feel, I dunno, "fast" enough? A bit too slow. And I think it would have helped if we saw a larger crowd around Jack at the latter half of that video, when he was taking out the bugbots with his staff weapon. I mean, they'd still be coming at him one by one, but at the very least, I think it would have helped the scene to emphasize their numbers more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvzNcS0krg0
2:22
This is a preview of what Greg Baldwin's aku sounds like.

>>90181581
Scenes are disconnected as fuck and got weird pacing. It's not good at all. Hell, maybe it was like that sometimes in the old show but they could learn something from that.

>>90170165
>camera work is choppy
Were there little camera men drawn in off the frame and a little director too?

>>90181648
To be fair, I have a feeling hes gonna try to put in more effort to sound like Mako in the tvshow proper than a cheap mmo

>>90180422
I swear to God this is true

>>90170165
I told you fucks to not overhype stuff, now you feel the pain

>>90181694
Ah, the famous pacing complaint, the "Fuck I need a word which sounds smart even though I never payed attention on English at school" crutch of people unable to provide any actual critical analysis and think their preferences and quality are the same thing.

Why is the pacing bad? Because the only reason to say so is if you have examples of lightning fast moving scenes/plots which were supposed to be important and/or dramatic but are gone before you have time to let their importance sink in; and/or slow parts which drag on forever, taking away from more important plots and scenes, while those are cut short.

And before you open your mouth, slow downs during a fight in the trailer are not examples of bad pacing, it's all done for drama's and spectacle's sake and so far it always focuses on the important part of what's going on. That's actually GOOD dramatic pacing, especially for a show which tries to be more than a an action piece.

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Can we all just calm our hype for a minute and realize that we know exactly how this is episode is going to work?

>Aku's Future Funhouse
>Innocent people somehow still existing in Aku's future
>Innocents about to get slaughtered
>In comes Bikerjack
>Bretty badass and doesn't afraid of anything
>Jack's worn out from fighting and has taken to using any means necessary to win
>Jack fights an enemy that makes him realize he's lost his way
>Redemption fight
>Jack walks off in the distance having thrown away his bike and outfit, wearing just his white gi and wielding only his sword
>Credits

If you don't honestly think that's how the first episode's going to go down beat for beat, you're deluded. The reason I bring this up is because we have GOT to tone down the hype train, or else it will derail.

ITT: /v/

>>90182273
>because we have GOT to tone down the hype train, or else it will derail.
People always build up the hype train to greater and greater proportions but once they air an episode that isn't 100% all that great, expect for there to be threads and threads of angry people and shitposters to fuel the flames of discourse.

>>90182214
I would agree if not for the fact that a lot of people are complaining about pacing.

But you can dismiss that entirely because you think it's just one person, feel free to feel good about yourself.

>>90174946
intelligent dogs were crucified in the second episode

Can't wait for /disappointed/ generals, your tears sustain me, I won't even watch that crap.

>>90179402
>Jack, I don't think they're robots!
>It is a figure of speech anon, they serve Aku and they are beneath my respect!

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>>90182461
>I'm going to complain about a show that I don't like and haven't watched in threads dedicated to it.

Hello /v/

>>90182355
YOu cant even explain why the pacing is bad, get off your high horse

>>90182638
I am not going to complain, I am just happy that there are going to be countless threads about your disappointment. I dont care about this shitty revival or whatever it is.

>>90182743
I can.

>gun scenes were too slow

Fuck that, the whole fight scene was fucking slow.

>>90182975
The fight broke down was shot at the same pace as almost all the fights, gun scenes were slightly slower probably to show you a transition in character , everything was the same, people complain about things that aren't even there

>>90171324
Animation and artstyle look fine, but seems a bit boring. Not that the original series was much better in that regard.

>>90171324
What the fuck, it looks like utter shit

>>90182975
Compared to what? Old Samurai Jack? The pacing is exactly the same as it's always been, slow, deliberate, and dramatic, with special focus given to each new action (pulling out gun, pulling out spear, tire spikes etc.) The pacing was like this in all four seasons of the show, and it's one of the most distinctive qualities about Samurai Jack.

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>>90170165
wow are you the biggest faggot ever or just dumb or both kys

>>90171324
JUST

>>90182355
And many times more people say it seems fine and very similar to the good old Jack we so much like. And this makes your response fall flat on it's face beaten by it's own logic.

>>90183137
Then why does it seem off? I recently rewatched the whole 4 seasons and now it just feels off. No, that is not because I want to complain, I was actually very hyped about that. But it feels very off.

>>90171324
The CGI bike was garbage, but his movements are only stiff here because of that armor; they've showed off scenes where he isn't wearing heavy gear and it looked just like the old show.

>>90182975
>pacing is bad because a character does something dramatic slowly

Look at that guy. Look at him and laugh.

See, this is why you should have paid attention in school during all those book analysis. Being able to read/watch something does not mean you understand it and when it comes to you, the lack of ability in actual critical thinking shows HARD.

>>90183148
Because it wasn't made right after those old seasons but many years after. Itnalso tries to tell it's story a bit differently to avoid rehashing same old stuff and to give Jack his biggest challenge yet - finding himself after 50 futile years of wandering and fighting for his life. Of course it feels different. It is supposed to be different in a few aspects. But the core aspect seems nothing but pure so far.

Oh, and if you watch an episode from the first and last season one right after another they will too have differences. The show was evolving as it went on.

>>90174511
>/co/ a place where people don't fucking remember shit about a cartoon and pretend they understand fucking anything.

Christ almighty, the amount of idiots who have "watched" samurai jack and by watched they mean saw it as a kid years ago and still think they know the shows actual content is amazing.

>>90182214
Just because you're too dumb to understand applicable terminology doesn't mean other people are as well.

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>>90182924
>Y-You're going to be disappointed! You'll see!

Here's a last (You), shitposter-kun. Hopefully one day you'll find happiness that doesn't involve wishing others were miserable.

>>90182975
Hahah now you're really shitposting.

Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-KYwr2IDw0

>>90183703
I dont care, keep crying bitch nigger

>>90171324
I don't usually say this, but it needs more explosions
Normally there'd be half a dozen focus shots of the robots being crunched by the motorcycle, here he glides along and just shaves them. And they'd explode when he was done with them.

>>90183731
Man that's just sex

You posted sex on a blue board

Fuck y'all nonbelievers Genndy's bringing action cartoons back on tv

>>90183805
It's going to be shit, and I'm going to drink your tears and bask in the disappointment threads.

>>90183805
Just wanted to mention that my favourite episode is the episode where a bunch of Bounty Hunters were boasting about how easy it is to take down Jack and they didn't last long against him collectively.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnliDQ2DyDg

>>90183887
>le disappointment man

Boy, this shtick isn't going to get old anytime soon.

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>>90183887
>IT WILL BE SHIT YOU HEAR ME?!?!?!? SHITT STOP ENJOYING THINGS REEEEEEEEEE.

>>90183948
Can't wait fo yo tears

>>90183955
keep waiting, my tears dried up years ago

>>90178913
huge if true

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>>90180422
You fools should've listened to me when I said we should ban live action crap only /tv/ tourists care about.

First /co/ stopped reading comics, now it stopped watching cartoons. It's just "Legion talkback", "AoS talkback", "Arrow is finally getting good, I swear edition talkback", "Gotham talkback", "Archie talkback Afterlife edition", "MCU discussion I don't Know what the fuck I am talking about edition"

Oh, and don't forget only two goddamn generals for Steven fucking Universe and Star vs Marco Homolust.

>>90184118
The board as it is now:

>two cartoons that people actually watch
>a bunch of shit people complain about but over 90% have never watched
>never ending torrent of live action capeshit

>>90181469
>>90181475
>80 posters
definitely one guy shitposting

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>>90184142
Shows end. And the live cape trend is already getting saturated.
I'll say by 2020 when the Two part Infinity Wars movies come out everyone will be done with capes.
By then maybe we'll come back to talk about the comics we like.

>>90184180
I remember people projecting cape bubble bursting by 2017-2018 after Avengers.

I remember people saying oversaturation will make people lose interest.

Now with movies we also have TV shows about Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Green Arrow, Flash, weird Gotham thing, Riverdale, Legion, and god knows what else.

>>90184180

I agree with >>90184245
If we're not at critical oversaturation now I'm not sure what it'll take to reach it.

Autism

Also, when of the hallmarks of the show is to try something new visually every episode, expect the next fight scene to be very different.

I think it looks good, not up there with the best of his fights but there will be plenty of time for that.

It's gonna be amazing.

>>90183642
Intelligent people offer examples and explanations, not throw blanket buzzwords like 'bad pacing' around. So no, the burden of critique is on you as a complainer, so either provide even the shortest critical analysis of the trailer, or shut your face and stop posting on a preschool level.

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>>90184269
>>90184245
Everything fades with time.
Besides we have to wait for Wonder Woman and all the other capes to come out this year to see how received they are.
I saw Iron Fist trailer. It actually made me loose interest in the show.

>>90176911
This, it was like the second fucking episode or some shit.
I do remember this show from my childhood, and it is geared more towards adults now.
What part of any of that is bad?