How do you think it will do? >Hope it's at least

>>90100265
>Hope it's at least better than Luke Cage
It has to be.

The second half of Luke Cage is the most boring superhero live-action production ever made.

>>90100265
Is this not out yet? I swear they finished production ages ago.

>>90100294
And, yet Diamondback is so damn theatrical.

I was /really/ hyped, but changing his motivations and the Colleen Wing clip has really diluted things for me.
>The Internet receptions towards Iron Fist, didnt help.

>>90100265
Wish he was more ripped. Not beefy, but like, just more lean and muscly like the Bruce Lee look

>>90100341
March 17th. 24 days.

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>>90100265
>Hope it's at least better than Luke Cage
Is that even possible?

When does the embargo lift? If its rumoured to be later than the others it wouldn't surprise me...for obvious reasons.

>>90100407
>for obvious reasons.
It's rumoured to be bad?

>>90100360
>but changing his motivations
What did they do?

>>90100435
From the little I've heard it's good. I was talking more the fact that a lot of people wanted Danny race-bended. So, that may colour their perception of Danny/the show. Some of the people that have been roasting Iron Fist, themselves write articles. I think Marvel need to be aware the sort of reception they received for DD,JJ and LC, maybe tempered for IF.

>>90100482
Removed the "revenge" element from his origin story. No matter how the lore has been changed throughout the years that remained constantly. So, the question is what are they replacing it with? It makes Danny seem like Green Arrow.

>>90100523
Wait, really? It seems like from the trailers that Meachum will still be the villain, so that sucks

>>90100601
He's there as the main antagonist, but it seems Danny doesn't know it was him that was involved in his parents death, unlike the comics where he actually saw it happen with his own to eyes. Here it's a plane crash and he expects Meachum to "welcome him back with open arms".

>>90100523
Come to think of it, Faramir looks more like Ollie than Amell

>>90100663
You think? Personally, I'm not seeing it.

>>90100375
Don't think he had long to train.

>>90100375
>>90102482

That's what I think as well.

>>90100265
>tfw you will never fuck Dannyfu

>>90100265
It's literally only going to get hate for the correct casting. All the sites will say, at best, "the show is really fun and interesting but I just can't get by the fact that they didn't chose to correct the problematic nature of the character and cast an actor (or ACTRESS YASSS) of asian descent".

Can't wait to see him beat the shit out of some beta chinamen and then fuck colleen's tight asian pussy

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>>90102730
Stop it, Anon.

>He's precious (and pure).

>>90102803
It's so ironic that they've latched to race-bend one of the only characters where "White Privilege" is a theme. Especially, from who's leading the charge.

>>90102893
They don't know a thing about any of these characters lol. They just want clicks.

>>90103017
And, the ones that do don't get much attention. I've actually collected articles/blogposts that explain why AA Danny doesn't why, and why he does actually need to be white, and they dont really touch on the bad arguments Anti-AAIF have made. It's so sad one of the most progressive (white) characters in comics, is being stripped down to a 2-D racist caricature.

I had to force myself to finish JJ and the only thing keeping me from dropping DD2 was Frank. I couldn't even finish Luke Cage because it was so goddamn boring. I have zero hope for Iron Fist.

Daredevil's first season was a flash in the pan.

>>90102803

You literally can not win with Iron Fist. Make him white like he's supposed to be and people will bitch about Mighty Whitey. Make him Asian or mixed Asian and people will bitch about him being good at martial arts because he's Asian. Make him any other race or gender and you're pandering/racebaiting. The only thing you can do is make a judgement call and ignore the bitching.

>At least better than Luke Cage
>at least

Luke Cage is the best netflix marvel show so far though? Yeah the second half of season 1 kind of spun its wheels but still much better than DD & JJ

I'm getting my wisdom teeth removed the week it comes out so I probably won't be able to enjoy it right away.

I hope it's awful and racist as fuck.
Marvel and especially has become such a fucking joke of a brand, I cannot wait for them to fuck up just a tiny bit and have the casual nerd audience of tumblr and buzzfeed turn against them

>>90100265

I've seen the first block of episodes and I enjoyed it more then Luke Cage and Jessica Jones.

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>>90100265
Luke Cage is hands down the best of any of these wash yo damn mouf out son

>>90103598
>Not spoiling anything
Fuck off

>>90103904
4chan is a place for cucked white teens. You really think people here will admit to Luke Cage being the best thing to come out of the MCU/MCU tangent projects

>>90100393
Luke Cage was okay but I was expecting it to be a bit more fun instead of the usual grimdark netflix mcu fare that it was.

>>90103400
>Mighty Whitey

Even if its not completely true?

>>90103904
>Filename.
>Not "try setting it to W, for Wumbo"

>>90103457
It wasn't bad. I did enjoy it, but to me it didn't have "PEAK HYPE!" episodes like JJ, and it didnt have the "I wanna re-watch it straight away" like DD. I agree with some that said LC was dramatically inert at points, and LC's character and actor were wishy-washy.

>>90103904
>>90104018
I know that attitude exist, but that's not why I said that.

>>90100265
Fuck, I sure hope so. Netflix Marvel started out so promising but they really shat the bed with JJ and Luke Cage.

>>90103598
Is this accurate: Colleen gets kidnapped, right? Danny and Claire try to rescue her, they get trapped and that's where she sees Danny use "the power of the Iron Fist". Colleen battles a member of The Hand in a courtyard.

How big of a role does The Hand play? Does it seem stand-alone and not an obvious stepping stone to the Defenders.

How is Finn as Danny? Danny himself handled?

>>90104788
>>90103338
Seems more and more people are thinking DDS1 was a "Lightening in a bottle".

Why did people not like Luke Cage?
I mean, it was kind of bland but I'd watch it over Jessica Jones and second half of DDS2 any day.

Cottonmouth was also the best MCU villain. Fight me.

>>90100393
Get the fuck out normie. It doesn't mean SHIT!

>>90105819
>if it doesn't coincide with my echo chamber beliefs it is harmful to my feelings!

>>90105407
You just named the problem with it. There's no more Cottonmouth after the first half

Please, tell me Colleen doesn't get the draws!

>pray circle

>>90105026

A chemist is kidnapped by the Hand. Danny and Colleen stumble upon him in the back of a truck. He's injured during the rescue and they take him to Claire.

From the episodes I've seen, Claire hasn't discovered his Iron Fist power yet. She does refer to Danny as 'one of them'.

The Hand starts as a background presence but they pick up more and more as it goes on. Danny already knows about them. Claire loses her shit when she finds out. The first 3 episodes are more focused on the drama with Danny's return and the Meachum's trying to prove that he's not the real Danny Rand. Hogarth takes Danny's side in this.

It seems like the Hand will come more into play towards the end. They're dealing some type of special heroin which the Chemist was forced to produce.

So far it seems stand-alone other then Claire's character progress/references. She's taking self defense lessons which she referenced wanting to do at the end of Luke Cage.

I'm enjoying Finn as Danny. He's pretty much a manchild for normal things. But as soon as martial arts come up, out comes this serious side. The fighting scenes are fun, theirs a hallway and elevator fight sequence.

>>90106807
Thank you for answering. Sounds interesting.

>Danny is precious
Good, good, good.

You say the martial arts are good, but are they believable? I only ask, because we didnt see much it the trailer, and the Colleen Wing clip could have been edited/choreographed better.

>>90100265

that back stance is fuggin weak

Anybody saw the previews for Brisson's Iron Fist? Danny's been put through the ringer, but I can't say I'm not excited to read.

Is that a fucking Wu Tang symbol on his chest?

>>90104667
My mandrama folder is monolithic. Every filename has to start with the wrestler if I'm gonna find anything ever.

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>>90100265
no chad collar no buy

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>>90108846
Congrats you outed yourself as a poser

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>>90104779
I feel the exact inverse. JJ & DD both dragged for me, the former more than the latter. The novelty would always wear off halfway through and I just finished them to finish them. Cage had a stronger sense of style from the get-go and was generally more entertaining for it, and when the first smidgen of fatigue DID creep in: BAM!!! Total paradigm shift. Everything gets scrambled. New status quo. It reinvigorated everything, made it feel like 2 back-to-back miniseries. I'd have bodied it all in one sitting were I not so exhausted by the finale.

>>90100496
I think the casting is terrible. Not because of the race, he should be white, but because he's a fucking twink.

>>90103400
I think they fucked up with giving him an Asian girlfriend though. It just makes it seem like White Power fantasy.

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>>90109365
Danny is a fucking twink.

>>90109372
I think the words you're looking for is cultural appropriation. not power fantasy.

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>>90109397
No. Is that Avengers Academy?

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>>90109397
Eh, it's a monk thing.

>>90108846
No, it's Tech N9ne you idiot.

>>90109372
I hope not, Danny and Colleen are a rare example of a male lead, and the female lead being just friends. The whole AA campaign makes things worst.

>>90109462
"White power fantasy" makes sense, in this context.

>>90109549
>No tattoo

>>90109462
The asian girlfriend thing is not cultural appropriation. Doing kung fu is.

>>90109733
how is kung fu "cultural "

>>90109788
Literally what kind of fucking question is that?

I don't really buy into the whole CA bullshit so I'm not sure how to answer that. If you don't think kung fu is cultural you're nuts. That's literally the entire conspiracy behind Bruce Lee's death, That they were mad he was ruining the culture.

>>90109733
I feel as if the Asian girlfriend gives accusations of cultural appropriation a leg to stand on.

>>90109873
Why though? Why is that the line for you?

>>90109873
It's not, whether or not that's how it makes you feel.

> No Misty

Fuck this show honestly

>>90110158
I'm seeing all people on Twitter getting all excited over Danny/Misty, I am too, but I saw those trailers...I was born at night, but not last night. It's gonna knock the wind out of people. This is gonna be awkward. The pre-fandom is already mess, but it will be a full bonafided mess, soon.

>>90110108
I conceded that the Asian girlfriend isn't cultural appropriation. That's not what I'm saying anymore.

>>90109914
The asian just makes the whole scenario more outlandish. It gives that side of the argument some more ammo. A white guy being the chosen one in a magical asian land, becoming a master of mystical kungfu, and he's fucking asian women.

>>90109873
With Danny's story it doesn't even count as CA.

>>90110371
In the comics he flips the scrip on those tropes, so lets hope Marvel doesn't fuck it up.

>The revenge motivation as been removed, though. So, that's concerning.

>>90100265
You could take a wet shit on a pedestal fan and end up with something better than Luke Cage.

>>90110345

I just dont get why the change was neccesary you know? Misty didnt have to sleep with Luke and Colleen and Danny dont need a romance.

>>90111033
I think it was because, of the guilt and conflict of interesting surrounding a person of the law sleeping with a wanted felon. Also, it this universe, I guess it's away to make them closely connected.

Danny/Colleen seems worse, though. Luke/Misty was a ONS, but the trailer implied romantic feelings between D+C.

Hype?

Off topic, but Iwan Rheon, AKA Melon Fucker had been cast in The Inhumans as Maximus. This boy seem typecast as fuck.

Seems Marvel is changing quite a bit about Mr.Rand. Unlike comic Danny that was Iron Fist first, Danny Rand second. MCU Danny will be Danny first Iron Fist second.


http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/21/iron-fist-madame-gao-the-hand-daredevil-connection/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter


>>90100601

New Featurette! With more fighting scenes and additional footage.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Dn49QoKGKr8

>>90100393
Yes, everything Luke Cage after Cottonmouth died was S H I T.

>>90115877

I agree, cottonmouth was great, random brother appearing was not cool at all, made me lose all interest and dropped it.

>>90100265
>dat jewfro
>dat hipster beard
He's ugly as fuck and I hate everythig about this show already

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>>90116016
Finn's not ugly, and he looses that look throughout the show.

>>90100265
Why is he less fit then a good chunk of /co/?

>>90109462
>>90109733
>>90109873
Yellow Fever is the term you're looking for.

>>90116278
>he's not ugly
okay tumblr

>>90116618
>Tumblr
>Some don't like him because he's white.

I--What--this makes zero sense.

>>90109341
See thats how i felt, at least with Luke Cage
THe mid season shake up kept it from feeling like it was over staying on plot lines like JJ did
it also had a good place to really dig into his past and i honestly though the "how do we operate on a man whos skin we can cut" plotline was cool.
that and Diamondback was such a different villian and antagonist than Cottonmouth that it was neat to see what he would do.
that and i thought that Mariah killing Cottonmouth was the biggest shocker of the show and a hell of a scene

>>90115840
Re-ignited hype.

>>90100265
ANOTHER White man?!

Reminder that a big part of The Defenders is the interplay between Danny (a rich white guy) and Luke (a middle/low class black guy).

Changing Danny's ethnicity really messes that up.

>>90117836
What the fuck are you talking about, he's white as fuck

>>90117836
You're preaching to the choir.

>The dynamic has changed somewhat, because now Luke's a country boy from the south. WTF?

>>90117873
Did you even read the post?

>>90100265
In the same mind set, as long as it isn't as bad as Luke cage and the Second half of S2 DareDevil I'm happy.

But these shows have a bad habit of dragging, even cutting the seasons down 2 episodes would probably spell out a noticeable improvement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSgB0KYH8ew
Looks like shit.
Will probably be shit.

>>90100265
Is he gonna wear his fucking costume or what? Capeshit without the cape is just shit.

>>90118870
they peopl have confirmed that theonlytwo "costumed" defenders are Daredevil and Iron Fist

You just know that the media is going to shit on it because the lead is a WHITE MALE.

despite all the shit posting am i then only one here who, despite knowing that they have flaws, generally enjoyed all the Netflix shows so far?

>>90121561
I liked them too. Obviously there are flaws and let's be honest, not even DD S1 has a strong final part. But they're fun.

Well, not JJ, I dropped it halfway. But I liked the other three.

>>90121561
Daredevil S1>Jessica Jones>First half of Luke Cage>Daredevil S2>Second half of Luke Cage.

>>90121636
the last third of JJ does suffer from some lengthening problems but i liked it over all.

>>90100647

Because they'll play up the mystery for drama

I really hate that guy's hair. No main character should have curly hair ever.

>>90118758
I'm really worried about the choreography

>>90122046
Yeah it doesn't look that great.

>>90122035
i think it looks good

curly hair needs more representation :3

>>90109372

Even if he got with Misty, it'd still be seen as a power fantasy. Anything positive that happens to a straight white male in modern media is seen as a power fantasy.

>ANOTHER white male

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN

>>90100265
Luke Cage was good, and if this is better then that's great.

>>90100265

All of Marvel's Netflix series are shit, so this is just piling it on.

>>90100360
>And, yet Diamondback is so damn theatrical.
Aside from that ridiculous costume, he was the best part of the show.

>>90118758
When I saw that clip it did worry me. I saw the original upload. If you didn't like this one, you'd hate that one.

>>90105407
DD1 > Iron Fist (Hopefully) > DD2 > Jessica > Luke "Blacktivity" Cage

>>90100265
>iron fist
>not ottermode
REEEEEEEEE

>>90100265

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>>90122035
>>90122096
Danny had curly hair, at one point.

I like it. It suits him.

>>90122165
which is weird because white men have all the power and don't need to live vicariously through comics and TV shows.

>>90105407
Colter sucks, shit actor and zero charisma. Mack in AoS is a better Luke than Colter could ever hope to be.

Diamondback was hyped up as some criminal genius badass, instead we got someone who would have been more at home in Batman '66. His plot to frame Luke by wearing a hoodie and screaming "I'm Luke Cage" while assaulting people was retarded, and only outdone by the fact that it somehow worked. His supersuit looking like one of the Atom suits from Legends didn't help either.

>>90125810
How's he gonna seduce Misty?

>>90115877
>>90116001

If the first half of Luke Cage hadn't been so good, the mediocre second half wouldn't have bothered me as much. Cottonmouth was the most compelling character in the show.

>>90128360
by being pushover who has more money than he knows what to do with and will forgive her for sleeping around on him

>>90100265
I've gradually lost hope since we're not getting any news about fight scenes or choregraphy and that's really all I want in Kung Fu shit.

>>90102803
Wasn't that whining relatively marginal in the end?

If the fight choreography is as bad as Luke Cage's, or as bad as it looks in the previews, the show's really gonna suffer for it. I gave Luke Cage a pass because he's fucking Hercules walking among mortals so it doesn't matter how fucking bad he throws his punches, but it's another thing entirely when the show's about a martial arts master.

>>90109733
>>90109866
This cultural appropriation shit is really tiring when basically every non-white in the world goes around dressed in historically white fashion.

>>90110371
You want him togo out of his way to not fuck Asian women when he's surrounded by Asians?

>>90118758
Man that's some bad choregraphy. Literally the only thing I cared about.
Some of those moves look like they're out of a Power Rangers episode.

>>90129570
Have you seen the original edit? It's worse.

>>90100265
that's a fucking awful stance

>>90103400
>Make him Asian or mixed Asian and people will bitch about him being good at martial arts because he's Asian.

I think you're assuming that based on nothing.

>>90109873
It kinda does. She's appropriating the genetic material of a white man.

I hope it's good, it's my favorite of the 4 characters, but even if its good, it's going to get some bashing from the SJWs offended that he is white.

>>90129388
It seemed quite loud, because at one point every single article about Iron Fist was about his race, and/or why he's a racist character" that needs to be changed. It was a topic in every IF related hub, too, so it was unavoidable. It was even said by those that should know better.

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>>90100265
It's gonna be great.

>>90125520
>Hopefully
Don't count on it.
The guy who ruined Dexter is running things here.
I'm expecting a giant shitshow.

>>90132258
That's only for the Powerman and Iron Fist: XXX Parody.

>>90132564
There's no way the man with unbreakable skin doesn't bottom for the man with the iron fist.

>>90132634

Agreed. Thats how I always imagined it.

>>90132258

Is that porn. Just asking for reasons

>>90132258
>Prince Untouchable
>Peanut Untouchable
You think they drew straws on who would get to pick which childhood pet to get their porn name after?
Seems Peanut lost.

>>90100265
My hope is that it'll be more consistent in quality, not have several episodes where the plot drags and nothing of note happens, and maybe be the first Netflix Marvel series with a good finale.

>>90132258
>Thugzilla

>>90128818
>Cottonmouth was the most compelling character in the show.
Shades was a close second.

>>90132024

They're still releasing articles about it.
https://qz.com/913738/new-iron-fist-trailer-finn-jones-as-iron-fist-is-a-reminder-that-marvel-is-obsessed-with-rich-white-men/

SJWs are starting to call it Iron Flop.

>>90133465
>Quartz
Who?

DDS1 was awesome. Season 2 was terrible, literally godawful and retarded except for frank. JJ was Tumblr tier, boring garbage with characters trying to do the stupidest, worst decisions possible. LC was alright, had some good episodes, as a big 70s fan I enjoyed their attempts to make it funky and feel like a king fu/blaxploition movie. I expect iron fist to be mediocre

>>90133424
Shades fucking sucked.

DDs1 > DDs2 (Frank parts) > LC (first half) > JJ (first half) > DDs2 (Matt parts) > LC (second half) > JJ (second half)

>>90133721
Agree to disagree. For me he was one of the only interesting characters. Got a bit bogged down when it turned out Diamondback sucked arse, but he managed to get over that hurdle towards the end.

>>90100265
>Daredevil
Arguably the best overall, though the subplots tend to overshadow the real plots (Matt vs Fisk/The People VS Frank Castle > anything involving Stick and The Hand)

>Jessica Jones
Pretty meh overall, shit action, but an amazing villain. Does some neat things in terms of characterization, especially the Jessica/Purple Man relationship.

>Luke Cage
Rad aesthetic and soundtrack, cool moments sprinkled throughout, story goes to shit after Cottonmouth dies. Isn't super hamfisted except for that one part in like the second to last episode. Not bad.

>>90133465
Nobody's making you visit that blog.

No ar

>>90107192
>You say the martial arts are good, but are they believable? I only ask, because we didnt see much it the trailer, and the Colleen Wing clip could have been edited/choreographed better.

Colleen's aren't really believable. It seems like the production team realized it eventually because she starts using weapons more.

Danny's are somewhat believable when they don't try making him get too crazy. But the fight sequences in Daredevil were choreographed better.

Overall the show so far seems better then Jessica Jones and Luke Cage.

>>90132634
>>90132837
I would like to see Luke get "White-balled" by Danny, but the rule of (gay) porn stated the skinny Twink is gonna get railed by the bigger guy.

Of the few Luke/Danny fics that exist, Danny is the bottom.

>>90134386
>>90134386
Ouch. Jessica already got railed over the Sand Snakes, and a lot of people really disliked the "Colleen wing in a cage" scene. (Jesus Christ, Neogaf when IN!)

By weapons, will we see her use more than just her katana?

>too crazy
Hmm, what did you mean by this?

>So, nothing like this then? It's the lead fight co-ordinator's previous show.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb2WaTSIm_c

>>90135021
>Ouch. Jessica already got railed over the Sand Snakes, and a lot of people really disliked the "Colleen wing in a cage" scene.
At least she got to be in Star Wars.

>>90103530

So they can be as bitter as you?

>>90135021
>By weapons, will we see her use more than just her katana?

They're all sword style weapons like a Shinai.

>Hmm, what did you mean by this?

Some of the movements look weird and don't flow well. You can tell he's not a trained fighter. Particularly anything involving flips or aerial movements.

That said, he pulls off the fighting scenes that are faster and in more enclosed areas such as inside an elevator.

>So, nothing like this then? It's the lead fight co-ordinator's previous show.

Just looking at that clip those fight sequences look a lot better then Iron Fist.

>>90136941
>>90136941
By the sounds of it Danny won't be the only one with major changes. Colleen's father's not even a professor any more is he? By the sound of it she's a loner, and an interview I'd read said she "defered to her sensei", so her mothers side seems to play a big part.

I assume most of the aerial moves are performed by his stunt double, and he's edited in. If the Wing clip is anything to go by its janky?

>Not similar to Marco Polo

Really? Man, I was all excited, too. :( I was expecting stylish and fluid movement to match Danny's fighting style. I hope there's something that matches that in the show, but youre killing my vibe.

>>90133465
Yeah, I know, I've seen that one. Twitter's resident AAIFbater is arguing with him. Usually can be an asshole, but he brings up good points.

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>>90132258
>Chaos

>>90109341
I do agree with you about Luke Cage's unique sense of style, I also really liked the community feel, at times. Like Harlem was alive.

>>90132258
Look at R-Kelly in the top left.

>>90139093
That reaction image is great.

>>90100265
Luke Cage only seemed bad to me when compared to Daredevil. It had the best music though.