Is the way that Marvel's psychics casually poke around in

It's one of the reasons I hated Bendis' run on All-New X-men.

It looks like he's setting up forJean to go too far with her newfound powers of telepathy, and have the other X-men confront her about it.

Then that moment never came, and she's allowed to abuse her powers as much as she likes.

>>89936653
Marvel psychics are assholes. Martian Manhunter thought poking in other minds was extremely rude

>>89936653
Anon, we live in a world where if psychics were a real thing a huge chunk of the population would have absolutely no problem with them just flicking through everyone's mind just so they could occasionally go to the police and say "hey, that guy has unflattering opinions on minorities"

SJW's honestly see absolutely nothing wrong with this

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>>89937555
You could literally use the exact same argument except replace "unflattering opinions about minorities" with "vaguely unpatriotic and antisocial thoughts"

being a chickenshit who is willing to sacrifice freedom and privacy for "safety" is not something that has a unique political alignment

>>89937555
>a huge chunk of the population would have absolutely no problem with them just flicking through everyone's mind

>Nobody would have a problem with psychic assholes violating their privacy on a whim.

Are you delusional?

>SJW's honestly see absolutely nothing wrong with this

Yes they would. It's a mental Stop-and-Frisk

>>89937693
>Are you delusional?
Nigga, I've heard people in person say they had no issue with warrentless police searches because "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear."

Who thought it was a good idea to have the teenagers decide what other teenagers sexual preferences were?

You're a teenager, you're thinking about sex from just about the stupidest things.

Shit they even dismiss the option that he's Bi just because Jean said she didn't think he was.

It's literally the stupidest thing to come out of 2016 in Marvel, I'm not even joking. But you can't argue about this or else you're a bigot. So now Bobby's gay, he's never really been in love with women, no matter what the last 40 years have shown us otherwise.

>>89937742
They only say that because either the truely have nothing to hide, or they're confident that the police can't find anything to connect them to their darker secrets. Physical evidence and psychic evidence are two different things.

A pedophile who's good at hiding his stuff would have no problems with searches because the police won't find his stash.

You cant hide thoughts.

Also, a few people don't speak for the entire world.

>>89937798
The answer is Bendis

BTW, this happened in 2015

>>89937798
that's what happens when someone who is pushing 50 writing about the sexuality of teens

>>89937898
2015 never happened bro.

>>89937798
>It's literally the stupidest thing to come out of 2016 in Marvel, I'm not even joking. But you can't argue about this or else you're a bigot. So now Bobby's gay, he's never really been in love with women, no matter what the last 40 years have shown us otherwise.

Actually you still can argue against it.

Point out that Lobdell did a better coming out story with Northstar (because it was Northstar's decision and not someone else's) and see the reactions. mainly because Lobdell's Alpha Flight issue was heavily derided back then but now looks better in light of how that scene Bendis wrote was so botched

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>>89937215
>Marvel psychics are assholes.

>>89936653
This is literally why I think Professor X singlehandedly orchestrates all the anti-mutant prejudice in the Marvel universe with his psychic powers.

If he was never born, no one would fear mutants.

>>89936653
>Like, I remember in the olden times, back before Charles Xavier's character had been as thoroughly villainized, he seemed to promote psychics showing restraint at most times and only pushing people's brains around in case of emergencies
Chuck would brainwash a motherfucker at the drop of a hat.

>>89937798
Name one thing iceman does as a gay character that wiccan didn't do first/better.
and to respond to OP yeah, Xavier was against casual mind fuckery because he had done it and it never ended well. The Xavier as an asshole plot was supposed to show why Xavier taught restraint, he was a super douche as a young man and saw the repercussions of being a super douche. But the writers either weren't good enough or missed the point entirely.

>>89937798
Bi is still faggotry tho

We should have none of that shit

Especially with a heavily associated toxic faggorty franchise as the xmen are

>>89936653
Morrison's characterization of Emma is that she's a bad person who happens to work for the good guys. On the other side, Xavier's greater scope can make him callous to the needs of others.

The problem comes when writers portray it as good rather than an reflection of mankind's pettiness and greatness.

>>89938075

>tells a guy about other guys picturing her naked
>gets upset when he does it

really?

>>89937676

>"vaguely unpatriotic and antisocial thoughts"
>being a chickenshit who is willing to sacrifice freedom and privacy for "safety" is not something that has a unique political alignment

And THAT is a better argument for a well made Civil War

>>89938053
Nothing wrong with faggotry bro.
It's being a gender fluid pansexual xer that needs to go.

>>89938215
No, I mean it, why didn't they use this telepathic issue for a Civil War?

>>89938225
Faggotry needs to be eradicated as well

>>89938075
Honestly that's the thing that irritates me the most about Marvel telepaths.

The rooting around in peoples' minds without permission is bad enough, but what makes it worse is that they're constantly judgmental and offended over the random thoughts that pop into people's heads.

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>>89936653

I hate that every time you piss one off they can tell you they're able to change anything they want about you and you'll never notice a thing.

How is a person supposed to react to that information without having an identity crisis?

>>89938357

Yeah, as if THEIR shit doesn't stink. If they were villains, it'd be fine.

Funny though, we hate heroes who act like assholes but are fine with villains who do just that. At the same time, a hero that's perfect is also dis-likable because they're TOO perfect.

>>89937951
>when they read your mind and find out about your penis

>>89938485
It's why when you have events or arcs where people lose their powers, the psychics are always the ones that end up being the most effected(affected?) by it, because they're whole deal of being able to control people no longer works, and that means they've got nothing else going for them.

I mean shit, at the end of the day Jean Grey is a fucking teenager with skinny little baby arms.

>>89938499
>we hate heroes who act like assholes
That's true. /co/ likes Namor.

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>>89938499
>Funny though, we hate heroes who act like assholes but are fine with villains who do just that.
Because they're villains, they're expected to be assholes.

We despise a character like Killgrave when he controls other people and makes them do things against there will - it's despicable. But we're also SUPPOSED to despise them.

When Ms Martian mindfucks Superboy trying to erase memories of an argument it doesn't sit well with us because she's supposed to be one of the good guys

>>89938628

Namor's not really a hero though. Namor's a wildcard. Hell, IIRC, he was laughing when an evil group was about to destroy the world with a weapon, but then stopped laughing when that weapon would affect HIS world as well.

>>89938573

>have brief moment of worrying about your penis size
>suddenly hear familiar laughter in your head
>turn around and see telepaths smirking and trying not to break out lauging
>everyone else in the room is puzzled as you stand there shaking
>the laughter in your head still hasn't stopped

>>89938704
Literally Marvel's first hero. He may play the antagonist sometimes but so does everyone else, in fact, Captain America is right now the MU main antagonist.

>he was laughing when an evil group was about to destroy the world with a weapon, but then stopped laughing when that weapon would affect HIS world as well.
As I already pointed out Namor's an asshole.

>>89936653
This was my biggest problem with Bobby coming out. His sexuality getting retconned wouldn't affect the overall story that much, but did Jean really have to pry it out of his mind? Jesus. I'll never understand why she is so adored in-universe.

>>89938699
See, that guy scares the shit out of me, because the idea of being robbed of my free will is one of the scariest things I can imagine.

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>>89938485

At least it gives us great scenes like this.

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2/3

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>>89938838

3/3

>>89938778
I suppose if they ever try to retcon Bobby or decide to make him bi, they can literally just be 'lol jean was a mindraping homophobe' ...no that they will.

>>89938825
>>89938838
>>89938843
>>89938843
Okay, I HAVE to know the context for this. I'm guessing something like 'Muh Phoenix'?

>>89938825
This is art

>>89938357
this. you'd think being psychic would make you a more worldly person

>>89938825
>>89938838
>>89938843
What the FUCK did I just read???

>>89938889

You are correct! Part of a current and ongoing parody rewrite of Bendis's All-New X-Men entitled Full-New X-Men.

http://unxannyrewrites.tumblr.com/issues

It releases one new page per day every day. Currently closing in on the end of issue 7.

>>89938957
That's amazing. Thanks for letting me know, anon.

>>89938485
At the point where your fucking over someones thoughts over trivial shit you've basically slipped into super villain territory.
Yet somehow we're supposed to see absolutely nothing wrong with it.

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>>89938838
Holy fuck

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>>89939121

>>89938957
>just an edit
Phew! For a second there I thought that Jean grew an interesting personality.

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reminder that Scott never had a choice

I liked Fantastic Beasts' take on telepathy:
socialites, who are aware of their abilities and struggle with that power of wanting to know more about someone while acknowledging how invasive it can be.

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reminder that Scott was never even given a good reason to live the life he did, just made to do it

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reminder that Scott was never allowed to just quit

>>89938320
Oh stop being such a faggot, anon.

>>89938759
>Literally Marvel's first hero
that was John Hammond

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>>89939163

I'm the dude who writes the rewrite in question.

Jean is basically both the main character and main antagonist in my version of the story. The only time I have more fun writing it than when Jean is on the page is when Jean and Hank are both on the page at the same time.

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>>89938150
>happens to work for the good guys.
funny how that came about

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>>89939308
speaking as an Australian I love everything you've done with Tempus

also the 'I'm going to all myself Obamacare, that'll show 'em' joke was pure gold

>>89938075
You can't just tell somebody "Don't think about this!" because their first thought is then going to be about that.

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>>89939338

Tempus was so lazily written in Bendis's script it was appalling to me. I have spoken with enough Australians to know that at least two or three times per conversation, a non-Aussie is going to have to stop and ask what a particular idiom means, and that is a wilful decision on Australia's part as a society. The fact that Bendis never once gave her a single piece of genuinely Australian-seeming dialogue was EASILY one of the top ten bits of wasted potential in the entire series.

And yes, Obamacare. I only regret that those two aren't regular characters in the series after the first four issues. I had a lot of fun writing them, especially together.

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how long until the psychics get their own cryptocurrency?

>>89939163
And I thought Marvel became interesting.

>>89939391
without spoiling any jokes, which upcoming scenes are you looking forward to tackling the most?

>>89939409
maybe we can meme magic the edit characterizations into being adapted in the next x-men cartoon

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'member when Xavier forced his student to cross the line and betray their friends trust rather than to it himself

>>89939425

Oh my god, my editor and I have spoken for hours about various plans and ideas. He sent me a full page of suggested dialogue from the Guardians of the Galaxy crossover, and I howled with laughter so hard upon reading it that I was seeing stars. I won't be changing a single word of what he suggested for that.

Issue 8's Angel/Angel teamup is pretty audacious, requiring by far the largest number of art edits of any single issue we've done so far, and addresses one of the truly inexplicable things about Bendis's scripts.

Our long-term plans for X23 when she shows up really make me laugh thinking about her place in the team. There's a lot of good stuff there.

But I think that if I can pull of the complexity of the idea I have in mind, the thing I'm MOST excited about is the pure chaos of Battle of the Atom and the impenetrable motives of the villains in it.

>>89939449
That shit would not fly now that Marvel is family friendly.

>>89938726
at that point, get smug and think graphic lewd and maybe disturbing thoughts about them or vividly remember jerking it.
they'll think twice about the doors they open without knocking.

>>89939534
Not an argument, Emma.

>>89939615
Or hell just think about your latest escapade to /d/. They are so casual they would lobotomize you for the futa porn alone, not to mention the xeno shit.

>>89939595

No joke. I make what I consider a particularly tasteful and clever Holocaust joke in issue 8. At this point Marvel won't even use the word "Holocaust" on-page, even when referring to a character whose NAME is Holocaust.

>>89938320
Almost every fag I know is fit as fuck and probably could kick your ass.

>>89939639
What is tasteful on 4chan is the equivalent of sodomizing a statue of Jesus in front of the gates of the Vatican to normies. The stance on the word Holocaust is proof enough. This isn't to say I dont look forward to reading your edit though, I really do.

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I can't wait

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meant to reply to
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>>89939425

Oh, and I CAN mention this a little.

There's a character introduced in issue 6, who is cloaked in shadows, his name never revealed, his face hidden, who is depicted as an accomplice and confidante of Mystique's.

The way he was presented, it honestly felt like one of two things might have been going on here. Either Bendis introduced this character with the intention of his identity being a big reveal for later in the story which he never got around to... or else he just wrote him as "some guy" and didn't realize that this random nameless extra was being presented in a way which would arouse curiosity. He appears again in issue 7, and then never again.

I took one look at Some Guy, and decided that he would be the most interesting character in the story. We have some big, BIG plans for him.

1/2

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>>89939948

>>89939952
>Warlock Wagon Away
if I ever get a car in the forseeable future I'm naming it this just so I can annoy people with this line

>>89939952

>Playing By Heart by Yanni

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB-iN989l-g

>>89939803
now THIS is amazing
i happen to like ol' cueball, and casting hims as jerk/villain saddens me. However this is really amazing
By the way, have we seen Juggernaut's reaction to Xavier's death?

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>>89940010

the short answer is mutie scum should all burn.

>>89940043

I know there's another version of the edit of this scene. Does anyone have it saved? I recall one which gave Karnak a lot more dialogue which I really liked.

>>89940041

Yeah, he was furious with Cyclops and went after him, with the intent to kill him; "to avenge the one man in the world who believed in me enough to give me a second chance."

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>>89940057

>>89940041
I honestly can't remember what's happened with Juggs since Fear Itself

>>89936653
>Like, I remember in the olden times, back before Charles Xavier's character had been as thoroughly villainized, he seemed to promote psychics showing restraint at most times and only pushing people's brains around in case of emergencies
No, in olden times, Prof X would wipe people's memories and mindjack them at the drop of a hat.

It's only after Claremont came on that Charles started to show restraint and talk about how it's not right to fuck with people's minds against their will.

>>89940067
>>89940079
Interesting. What comic was that reaction in?

>>89940075

There was another one still. If memory serves it had something like this.

Karnak: "Jean Grey. I have heard of you."
Jean: "Oh, that's so nice!"
Karnak: "That was not a compliment. So far your greatest accomplishment is causing a young boy to question his sexuality. I am hardly impressed."

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>>89940131

Amazing X-Men.

Need more stuff like
>>89936653
>>89940010
>>89940075
Where Jean is just turning people gay at the drop of a dime.

>>89940169
there was one with Rocket from GotG but I don't have it saved

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>>89940169

Well, here's the classic. The original. The edit which started the whole meme in the first place, which I wrote about a year and a half ago, shortly before Uncanny X-Men #600 hit the stands.

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>>89940204

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>>89940204

Marvel foolishly released previews of these pages with no dialogue at the time, which allowed me the luxury of speculating as to what the characters were saying and doing. I took full advantage of that and a meme was born.

>>89939859
Wait why is older Bobby shorter? How the fuck does that happen?

>>89940218
Please do more

>>89940204
>>89940210
>>89940218
Damn, this is actually quite disturbing, especially the panel in the last one where Bobby's trying to recite the names of the girls but gets more and more confused.

>>89940249

Okay, will do. How about if I literally re-write every page of the entire series from the very beginning?

http://unxannyrewrites.tumblr.com/issues

Boom. There, have about seven issues worth and counting. How's that for snappy service?

>>89940254

I was going for a very, very "dark comedy" approach with that scene.

>>89939948
>>89939952
Have you read the Scarlet Witch series, featuring a character called the EMERALD Warlock?

Did Jean also make Bobby attracted to shitskins?

I don't recall him ever having a colored gf.

>>89940289

WHAT

Seriously?

Hahaha, no fucking way. No, I haven't, but now I'm curious.

>>89940294
Well he fucked Mystique, does that count?

>>89940272
When does the tpb come out?

>>89940294

He dated an asian woman named Opal for years and years.

>>89936653
I still hold that "Jean Makes Bobby Gay" will be the "Carol Is Raped By Her Own Child" of this generation

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>>89940298
I shit you not.

>>89940284
It's pretty near maximum dark already. Adding a faint lone tear sparkle in shadow of his face on the I'll kill you for this, jean panel would make it full force dark max.

>>89940317

Hahaha. WELL FINE THEN. But I swear I didn't know at the time. I came up with this joke months and months ago as part of a setup for a joke in issue 9 I'd wanted to do pretty much from the outset of the rewrite.

>>89940327

Well, read Full-New X-Men to the end of issue 8 and I can promise you something pretty close to that.

(But yes, that would have been fantastic if I'd thought of it at the time. Damn, the benefit of hindsight)

>>89940067
Awesome. The Juggs was one of the only reasons I was reading X-Men back in the day. As much as I liked Fear Itself, I was annoyed that he got taken out of the comics. It's nice to see that our big Juggy-boy is growing up.

If Juggs is back, i'm gonna need to get back into the comic.

>>89940272
Anonymous delivers!
>Editbro
oihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

>>89936653
>Is the way that Marvel's psychics casually poke around in people's heads supposed to be even remotely defensible?
Not at all. It's a deliberate invasion of a person's privacy. If the psychics feel they have the right to do that then by that logic they should have no problem with other characters abusing them with their powers.

>>89940333
Oh, I'm not saying you stole the name, by any means. If anything, I thought you may get a kick out the character.

>>89940307
That never happened. I refuse to accept it and choose to live in denial.

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>>89939859
>ywn have Jean give you the most comfy feeling mental-hug.

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>>89940363
you can't run from the truth

>>89940307
Wait, did they come out and say that the whole "Bobby, you're gay" scene was her re-writing his brain to make him gay? You're fucking lying.

Pics or didn't happen.

>>89940375
I'm pretty sure it feels exactly the same as when you're on ecstasy and the song hits a point that gives you shivers.

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>>89940389

They haven't come out and said it, but it's pretty widely-accepted headcanon throughout the fan community.

When Hank Pym infamously hit his wife across the face, it wasn't actually intended to happen that way in the script. In the script, the idea was that he was just gesticulating around wildly, making grand sweeping gestures with his arms as he excitedly talked and accidentally hit her in one of these motions. But the way the artist rendered it... that's not how fans received it. That's not how the story was understood. People drew their own conclusions, and gradually over the course of decades, that interpretation which was never in the script became canon because everyone had accepted that that's what 'really' happened.

I think that in time, Bobby's sexuality retcon will come to be viewed the same way.

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>>89940600

>pretty widely-accepted headcanon throughout the fan community

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>>89940654

Shut the fuck up, Donnie.

>>89940600
That's shooter covering his ass and nothing more

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>>89940075

Another classic.

>>89939948
>>89939952
How does he say those letters?

>>89939371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awDWivJqXRg

>>89941035

With the most grandiloquent theatrical flourish imaginable. Draw out of your imagination the mental image of a cartoonishly exaggerated caricature of a Shakespearean actor in a cartoon aimed at very young children who have never previously been exposed to Shakespeare and you're in the right ballpark.

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>>89940600
>headcanon

>>89938053
Stop being such a faggot Anon.

>>89938075
Hey, at least he didn't picture her limbless and hanging from a streetlight.

>>89938320
Homosexuality is totally gay.

>>89938357
Psychics should be the most understanding fuckers, like too understanding.