BATWOMAN’S NEW COMIC WILL TAKE HER TO 'A GORGEOUS HIVE

Can't wait for Unsolicited Opinions on Israel DC edition

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>>89934946
>>89934976
>>89934984
>>89935023
so is this whole issue just going to be entirely taking parts straight out of ruka's origin story?

like i don't think it's bad to recap but some of these panels and dialogue is literally just copy/pasting greg ruka's work from Elegy.

>>89934968
We already have DC Bombshells for that.

>>89935087
How bad is it?
How bad does it get?

>>89934968
I don't remember any unsolicited opinions on Isreal when I read Batwoman.

Epting is too good an artist to be paired with Bennett of all writers.

I wonder if they are going to finally get the chronology and Kane-Wayne connection properly written down in this

The preview for the #1 looks okay. Not amazing but nothing offensive about it yet.

The thread and storytime will get shitposted to death regardless, tho.

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>>89934996
>>89935023
> broke my jaw, i was going to do you better but now i can't
> she got kicked out for sticking her fingers in the cookie jarhead
MY SIDES

>>89935074
Eh if it's the origin expect repeats.
I mean how many times has green arrows flashback or retell him going to the island.

Batman has reminded and reshown his parents being shot so much the like that is dead Wayne's is practically triple digit

>>89935074
No point in fixing what's not broken right

Thanks OP.

>>89935143
I've heard it's basically gurl power, queerfaggotry, and cheesecake.

>>89935322
I feel bad for when InjusticeAnon does Bombshells later this week

>>89935168
It's Bennett Anon

>>89935382
People have sat through worse for good cheesecake.
Hell I'm pretty sure that's the slogan for Lady Death comics.

>>89934922
>Bennett
>Tynion IV
it's nice of them to give a nice loud warning to steer clear of this book

>>89935366
Yeah The Wayne's getting shot in the alley is probably the most on panel retold origin in existence but the stories usually hold it up pretty well so I'm fine with reusing origins as long as what I'm reading isn't shit

>>89935382
And by queerfaggotry, I mean every girl is a dyke.

>>89934934
>tumblr cut
Off to a great start.

>>89935499
she's a lesbian, it's allowed

>>89934968
Ironically a comic with a Jewish main character with military background is probably one of the better places in the genre to discuss Israel.

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So she got kicked out of West Point? I thought she was supposed to be some super military badass

>>89935639
No she got outed as a dyke so got kicked out

>>89935639
DADT was still in effect when she was in the academy

>>89935074
Yeah, but i agree. If its a preview....then it should show something BEFORE we see it....if its just showing what weve already seen...isnt that a REVIEW?

lol

>>89935703
Yeah, they have to keep moving the time period back and ageing her up. It made sense back in Elegy, but so much has changed since 2009

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It's already been about five years since DADT was repealed. DADT was shit and it's a legitimate issue to deal with, but at what point do you figure that they won't be able to reasonably have it as the cause for Kate's expulsion? And what would it be replaced with?

>>89934922
>BATWOMAN’S NEW COMIC WILL TAKE HER TO 'A GORGEOUS HIVE OF SCUM AND VILLAINY'

oh god she's going to start browsing 4chan?

>>89934934

>meme hair

I'm out

>>89935775
>>89935777
I mean Punisher is still a Vietnam vet

>>89935204
Woah, Batwoman is ripped.

So this seems perfectly servicable so far but I fully expect cross boarders and other normies who don't read comics to feign outrage over Kate's gayness all to start shit. And what's worse is enough retards will take the bait and derail the thread

>>89935777
i mean i don't see a reason it needs to be replaced. she was created when DADT was still in effect and the military is years ago in her backstory, so it isn't a stretch to just keep it there.

>>89935982
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/12/24/punisher-no-longer-toured-vietnam/ Still Canon.

>>89935777
>>89935854
Doesn't the military have strict laws about infidelity and stuff? Maybe she will end up fucking a superior, and getting a court martial out of it

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>>89934996
>last panel

>>89935478
>It's a "Batman gets triggered by guns" episode

>>89936033
seems like a pretty easy change to just make the chick she bangs at West Point an instructor

>>89936103
I could have sworn they did something like that at the start of the New 52, but it's been a while since I read it

>>89936033
Only if you are married. Is Kate married?

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>>89935006
Don't Ask, Don't Tell was repealed in Sep 2011, so I wonder how long they will be able to use this part of Kate's backstory?

>>89936153
read the thread

>>89935983

I think the book is probably gonna be mediocre and boring at worst, going by the preview and Tec issues. But yeah, it's gonna trigger the fuck out of people regardless.

>>89935983
>feign outrage over Kate's gayness
I would really hope, after 2 fairly popular solo runs, that we're past that point

but I also know that you're probably right

>>89935006
>>89935023
Are the people in this yacht party really the ones who will be whispering hateful gossip about a millionaire libertine, since they all are that sort of people?

>>89936153
Until the next Crisis-type event occurs ~20 years from now.

>>89936234
millionaire libertines can be pretty catty about each other

>>89935499
Every female character at DC is getting that haircut, even Killer Frost retroactively.

>>89935983

Yeah I'm sure none of the complaints will be legitimate and I'm sure Bennett wont be heavy handed at all

>>89936272

The legit complaints will be drowned out by an avalanche of shitposts and sperging by people looking to get triggered, tho.

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>>89936272
>>89936350
As long as Kate doesn't get raped by a vampire, I will give it a chance.

>>89935382
On the other hand, Harvey Dent is best boy.

>>89936367
Dumb Ivyfag

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So boring Maggie is gone. Superior OPT when

>>89936419
QUESTION
REBIRTH
FUCKING
WHEN

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>>89936480

>>89936513
no fuck off

>>89936367
didn't Andreyko also directly connect her to Bruce via cousins? That connected is not completely clear yet

>>89936419
im pretty confident bennett will insert renee into the ongoing, but editorial probably won't let her make renee become question. maybe when rucka is done with wonder woman he will be allowed to move onto question - he wrote a solid Vic Sage in 52 as well.

>>89936527
>try
weren't they established as cousins in 52

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>>89936527
She was always a Kane and Bruce's cousin.

>>89936577
>maybe when rucka is done with wonder woman he will be allowed to move onto question - he wrote a solid Vic Sage in 52 as well.
Also in A Cry for Blood

>>89936577
Whatever happened to the old nu52 Question?

>>89936593
>>89936590
I really need to reread 52. I remember her being a Kane, but no one actually saying "Yo are you cousins with Bruce?"

>>89936605
we don't talk about Nu52 Question

>>89936677
That "Trinity of Evil" shit got dropped faster than the Demonites, right?

>>89936708
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT NU52 QUESTION

>>89936593

Why does she look like she has cancer?

>>89936708

No that stayed around much longer. Phantom Stranger was actually pretty good

>>89936752
JH Williams just likes em pale I guess

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>>89936752
Maybe they want to accurately portray how an already fair-skinned woman would look if she avoided daylight for years.

>>89935854
No he isn't. He got moved up to gulf war and they're probably going to move him to Iraq once he gets too old.

>>89936772
Oh yeah, he did have a solo series for a while. I seem to remember PS fucking over a cop to make him the Spectre, which led to some hard feelings.

>>89935074
Did you actually read the preview? Because it looks like they cover her entire origin in those 4 pages you quoted and then switch to some original story that takes place before she became Batwoman.

>>89936909

He surrendered Raven to Trigon in the first issue as well because God told him to

>>89934968
Kate's Jewish. Her opinions on Isreal will be completely solicited.

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>>89934934

> long hair

Dropped.

I don't mind the new art but let's not pretend that JHW didn't make Batwoman particularly stand out in the new 52.

>>89935777
Make it so that she was so extremely gay that even though the military accept gays she was just too gay for them to accept.

>>89937101
wait is batman a jew too then if they are cousins

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>>89937135
Much better than her buzz cut.

>>89937181
This is why we need a proper family tree. Right now it is a bunch of ??? actually connecting the two together

>>89937181
well he is related to the Kanes through his mother...

>>89937181
Yes, as of Kate's introduction to the DCU, Bruce's mom was Jewish. Martha Wayne's maiden name was Kane.

>>89937235
Do you have to convert to marry a Jew? If not, then Jacob could have married Gabi and had Kate.

>>89937181

If you care about the Jews rules then yeah. But Batman has never practiced so who cares?

>>89937455
>>89937461
where'd that dude get a samurai sword

>>89935303
So what happened with this Night of the Monster Men thing? It looks cool.

>>89937539
Hugo Strange made some people into monsters with some Venom thing

Psycho Pirate made Gotham Girl go nuts

Clayface did a thing

>>89937490
Maybe From Brainiac

>>89937419
I miss Reneé

>>89934922
So how fast are the sales gonna collapse on this?

Hey /co/ wandering fa/tg/uy here. Long story short, I need to find a good site for reading batwoman for a MnM game. You guys got any recommendations?

>>89937690
those last two panels' dialogues don't really make sense

>>89937680
Same.

>>89937727
Look up Batwoman: Elegy for an introduction.
Her solo series ran for 40 issues, but the team ragequit after #24. The art for those first 24 issues is ridiculous

>>89937778
>Rage quit
I remember something happened to cause it, but what was it?

>>89937815
DC wouldn't let her marry Maggie

>>89937815
>>89937778
You guys got a recommended place to read these?

I used to use KAT but they're gone now.

>>89935639
She spent ten years training and doing black ops work with her military dad's contacts after getting the boot.

>>89937815
DC had a blanket "no one can marry anyone" policy at the time. Even today. Aquaman and Mera are not married yet. In the comic, Kate proposed to her girlfriend, and the team quit when they were not allowed to have the marriage

>>89937836
viewcomic has the New 52 run and I'm pretty sure TPB has Elegy

>>89937869
Mediafire https://www.mediafire.com/folder/orbd4c20fykca/Batwoman

>>89937835
>>89937851
these pages are what made Convergence worth it

>>89937827
kek. Kate is a bit of a slut, so thinking that two women are sleeping with her appears to be in character

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>>89937908
nigga she was in a committed monogamous relationship for most of her existence as a character

>>89935035
Might be just me. But I feel the way they try to write Rebirth Kate, she wouldn't have the vanity to bother with a side buzz. Either she'd keep it low maintenence long or simple and short.

>>89937937
You are right. She has the persona of Bruce Wayne (a playgirl), but has actually stayed consistent

>>89937490
Mail order from before the Dome went up.

>>89937815
DC editorial forbade them from having Kate marry Maggie, IIRC.

>>89935499
I thought her hair was just more pulled/brushed back on the side.

>>89937477
Because i cant like him anymore if he is jewish

>>89938167
then he's Jewish

>>89938167

Batman gives his money away to charities and allows black people into his house. He's not Jewish

>>89938126
Yea though it was more they let them write and draw up the arc for the issues for months and at the eleventh hour told them they had to scrap it because Bat Family can't have happy or some such nonsense.

>>89938207
Well a black. So he can claim that black friend card.

>>89938294
He lets a black guy run his company. A real Jew would only let other Jews handle that stuff.

>>89938175
Wtf i hate batman now?

>>89935953
Bat"woman"

>>89937932
I love this issue, despite the weakness of the Helena parts.

>>89938330
Lucius is too upstanding. His fellow Limo Liberals would never count him.

>>89937703
Kate's jealousy of Helena is hilarious.

>>89934934
>bennett
>sidecut, the mullet of the 2010's
wew

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>that pose

>>89935580
>My cousin Bruce Wayne
What? So her dad is Martha's brother now?

>>89938680
It is not clear. Her dad is a Kane, but they have never said he he was Martha's brother. She ran into Phillip Kane once, but I don't remember how that worked out.
Literally all we know is that they are cousins. No author has bothered to lay out the genealogy

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>>89934922
>Bennett
>Tynion
Why even publish this book at all? I thought DC was better than this now.

Way better than Bombshells, Queen of H'el or her awful Batman annual, but it's not a Humphries on Rebirth level turnaround.

>>89938763
Current 'Tec literally had her father saying Martha Kane is his sister. I think it was in the first issue, too, maybe in the Rebirth special.

>>89935074
first line i read i recognized immediately.

>>89937937
It's canon that she slutted around for a while after getting kicked out of the military because she was depressed. Renee was the one who helped her stop that.

>>89941600
Stop bumping and let this thread die so someone can storytime the actual issue without confusion.

Storytime >>>89941773

>>89941809
Thank you

>>89935499
Complaining about a currently popular haircut is just spiting against the wind.

Be like complaining of big rocking hairsprayed hair in the 80s or dudes with mullets in the 90s or bleached blonde hair in the 00s.

>>89940458
>slutted around for a while after getting kicked out of the military because she was depressed
Truly a trademark Rucka creation.

>>89942629
But when Storm got a mohawk, a dozen other characters didn't change along with her.

>>89942629
ah the good 'ol days of people complaining about mullets

>>89937577
>Clayface did a thing
Just something about phrasing it like that had me chuckling hard enough to get in trouble at work.

>>89942689
wasn't Daken introduced around the same time?

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>>89942801
No, Daken was created in 2007. Storm first got her mohawk in the 80s.

>>89943533
>Daken was created in 2007
huh. I could have sworn he wasn't that recent

>>89935047
Woke up in tha night,
Gon ta/k/ti/k/ally /k/lear ma house
With ma fing-ah on tha trigg-ah

>>89935173
Dat smudge.
Of course it's probably from Bruce MY PARENTS ARE DEEEEEEAAAAAD-ing her.

>>89935241
I really like how this shows Kate as very good at what she does, and doesn't diminish that even when it shows her bein outclassed. The new kid at Xavier's doesn't have to beat up Wolverine, holding him off for half a minute is still pretty fucking impressive.

>>89943601
Logan's first Japanese adventures were around the same time as Mohawk Storm, but all it taught us about his past was that he trained in sword fighting and spoke Japanese, not that he had a wife from there decades ago.

>>89944569
Kate actually shooting Batman was stupid as hell, though.

>>89937185
>Thank you Ms. Skeltal.
Bleh.

>>89944714
Yeah, if she's good enough to shoot Batman she's good enough to _not_ shoot Batman.

>>89936367
Except she was raped by a vampire.

The idea that "She only makes her do what she wants" mean Kate wanted to sleep with whatever stranger happened to break into her apartment that night, and she was STILL under the mental influence of that power throughout their "relationship" so it was ALWAYS rape every single time they slept together.

You don't get to put MAGIC DO WHATEVER YOU WANT BRAIN RAYS into someone's brain and say the sex was completely consensually

The sheer arrogance and stupidity of the writer to try and backpedal away from the rape with this is just silly.

Vampires rape people, they have for literally centuries in fiction, time to fucking just be cool with that and let it be.