>/co/ actually thought Jazz would be a big part of Korra >/co/

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>DR.DOOM WAS JUST AN OP WATER BENDER
At that point I just gave up

>>89887812
I was fine with it.

Maybe if we had more ten episodes, his back story could be better explored. I have the impression that all of his plan was just a suicide mission and that he wanted to die as a martyr.

>>89887794
>/co/ thought this was going to be good

Was pretty good. Could have been better.

>>89887794
That and the failure of the DC Cinematic universe, the constant ultra PC forced diversity tripe Marvel was spewing in the comics, the death of the Saturday Morning Action Cartoon, CalArts, and Stan the Man consuming the essence of one too many legends all contributed to the breaking of /co/

>>89887878
It was like 7/10 by itself, and 5/10 if you take in consideration that it is a continuation of ATLA.

I think it is worth to see tho, because the character design, music and choreography are all amazing.

How would /co/ explain Aang being Amon?

>>89887878
s1 5/10
s2 2/10
s3 6/10
s4 4/10

>>89887943
Bryke are hacks

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>>89887794
>season 1 ended
>/co/ was disappointed but hopeful
>season 2 ended
>show was abandoned short of the wafiu degenerates.

>>89887794
Season 3 was alright, but yeah, the writers should be embarrassed.

>>89887948

S1 5.5/10
S2 5/10
S3 7.5/10
S4 6/10

Compared to AtLA

B1 6/10
B2 9/10
B3 9/10

So it's worse but not terrible overall.

>>89887812

What the fuck else would he be? Oh, never mind, you guys would have hated it anyway.

Avatar

S1: 8/10
S2: 9/10
S3: 9/10

Korra

S1: 7/10
S2: 6/10
S3: 8/10
S4: 7/10

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>>89888001
Who else wrote it along with Bryke?

It is quite shocking that Bryke written some of the best episodes of ATLA, like Blue Spirit and The Guru.

I still have faith that they can make something good later, maybe with a little more experience and the right team.

>>89888022
ATLA

B1 7.5/10
B2 9.5/10
B3 7/10

>>89887943
Azula "kills" Aang with her lightning attack at the end of that season of TLA
Supposedly an unknown avatar was then born and subsequently died without ever attaining the avatar's powers since Aang was still alive.
Korra is born after the death of the unknown Avatar; thus correcting the avatar lineage and Aang loses his powers except for spirit bending which he learnt from the Lion Turtle.

>>89888049
>It is quite shocking that Bryke written some of the best episodes of ATLA, like Blue Spirit and The Guru.

Not really. The problem with Korra was pacing and lack of overarching focus and cohesion more than writing quality.

>>89888038
>S1: 8/10
>>89888055
>B1 7.5/10

Book one is pretty awful besides the last few episodes and a few scattered ones (jet, blue spirit, kiyoshi)

>>89888068
>jet

>>89888068
>Book one is pretty awful besides the last few episodes and a few scattered ones (jet, blue spirit, kiyoshi)

Agreed. Most people only remember the good and ignore the rest.

>>89888081

Addendum: though Jet sucks fuck that.

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>>89887794
>watch episode one
>IM DA AVATAR YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT
>change channel and never look back

>>89888081
The only truly "bad" episodes were Imprisoned, Great Divide, and Bato of the Water Tribe. The rest ranged from alright, to excellent.

Also how the fuck are 'Jet' and 'Kyoshi' in there over 'The Storm,' and 'The Deserter'?

>>89888068
>>89888081

I'll admit season 1 was a little hard to get through the first time, but I appreciated it more every time I watched it. Apart from three or four kinda dull episodes, it's really enjoyable.

>>89888038
Korra
Season 1 7/10
Season 2 4/10
Season 3 5/10
Season 4 7/10

>>89888068
>The problem with Korra was pacing and lack of overarching focus and cohesion
This was a big flaw of the series. Bryan, one of the two guys we get Bryke from, thought it was genius if Toph was some older guy jerk that pick on the gang but DiMartino pitch the idea of a small blind tomboy girl because it would be an excellent counter to Katara's very feminine nature as well as funny that the "strongest" team member is a blind little girl. Bryan was dead against it forever and apparently fought many time to get it out of the show. Why? Because as he admitted later the unnamed earth bender trainer was to make a love triangle between Aang Katara. He was willing to have Toph never happen so he could fuel shipbait.
This same Bryan got to run Korra and it shows in season 1 and 2 where we see letting him run wild with his ideas nearly uncheck isn't a good thing.

>>89888106

Season 1 has gotten harder to watch pretty much every time I watch the series. With the exception of the universally loved episodes like The Storm and The Blue Spirit.

>>89888105

I don't watch it for alright. All the alright episodes drag the season down overall. Also I think Jet is a terrible episode. I didn't make that list I was just agreeing with the overall sentiment in >>89888068

>>89888135
You're thinking of Aaron Ehasz, he's the one who made Toph a girl. Both halves of Bryke wanted to make Toph a guy.

>>89888153
Well thank fucking christ for Aaron then. Guy Toph would have probably been much less memorable.

>>89888026
I don't know maybe a competent leader that just hates benders with a fucking gun

>>89888141
Let's break it down.

Great tier: (5)
The Storm
Blue Spirit
The Deserter
Siege of the North pt. 1
Siege of the North pt. 2

Good tier: (7)
Avatar Returns (?)
Southern Air Temple
Solstice pt 1 and 2
Waterbending Scroll
Fortune Teller
Waterbending Master

Okay tier: (4)
Boy in the iceberg
Kyoshi Warriors
King of Omashu
The Northern Air Temple

Bad tier: (4)
Imprisoned
Jet
Great Divide
Bato of the Water Tribe

Even Jet and Bato had some kick ass fight scenes at the end which make them passable. I still say season one was good overall.

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>>89888187
Beyond forgetful to down right unknown. This was the final pic if they went male.

>>89887794
I will never forget how shit season 2 was
Fuck Korra

>>89888226

I would move Deserter down to good tier. Then move Avatar Returns, Fortune Teller, and Waterbending Master, Solstice down to okay tier. Then move Waterbending Scroll down to bad tier.

So it's Great (4), Good (2), Okay (9), Bad (5).

>>89888241
He was going to be the Earth Bender in the opening.

But the design was reused for Roku's Earth Bender master, that is implied to be Toph's previous life.

>>89888283
>Waterbending Scroll

It's OK.

It has a three way fight between the gaang, Zuko and pirates. Also plenty of foreshadowing for later episodes.

It was mediocre.

>>89888302

Okay I disagree but even if I moved it to okay we're still looking at Great(4), Good(2), Okay(10), Bad(4).

>>89888283
You could sway me on Waterbending Master and Solstice pt. 2, but I think they had enough going for them for me to classify as good. Depends on how harsh you're being.

>Then move Waterbending Scroll down to bad tier.
Why?

>>89888293
the fact I can't even picture either of them reaffirms how forgettable the design was

>>89888026
Not a fucking bender that's for sure. Made everything he preached utterly pointless and hypocritical

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>>89888359
To be fair, Sud just showed up for 5 seconds.

>>89888378
>Made everything he preached utterly pointless and hypocritical

That is the point, he is a self hating bender, and this secret being revealed would fuck up his entire ideology and organization because everyone would realize that they are subservient to a bender dictator.

Equalism was just patethic as an ideology, like comunism and anarchism are.

>>89888406
>That's the point!
Shut the fuck up lol
Bryke just have the combined writing skills of a 12 year old.

>>89887948
i would give S1 and s3 each one point more, but i basically agree

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>>89888324

>There are bad episodes of Avatar

>>89888226
>Great Divide
I don't understand how people can say this is a bad episode when it has René Auberjonois grumping his ass off.

I also think it's a fine episode regardless

>>89888428
I don't think any episodes in ATLA are truly awful, but there are definitely bad episodes in comparison.

There are, however, plenty of awful Korra episodes.

>>89888415
Nigga, just because it didn't fit your personal headcanon, it doesn't mean it is bad. There is nothing wrong with making your villain a hypocrite, even more if he is based on the kind of leader that is usually hypocrites.

>>89888415
The fact that is was badly done doesn't change the point.

>>89888455

Awful is a strong word. There's a few mediocre ones, but that's about it. Remember, Korra had less filled than Avatar.

>>89888428
>>89888455
>what is The Great Divide

>>89888463
You are under some delusion that the show actually deals with this political conflict at all. All that happens in the end is Amon gets knocked out of a window, runs away, gets blown up, and the problem somehow solves itself after that. It wasn't Amon who was important, it was the ideas he embodied, and the show never addresses them properly.

>>89888479
I've never thought it was bad. What was the argument for it being bad again?

>>89888479

A perfectly okay filler episode with some funny parts.

>>89888504
>>89888506
Filler that does nothing for the story and almost nothing for the world. And I just find it boring and bland.

>>89888472
A lot of Avatar ""filler"" was great, and most of the plot-focused Korra episodes were bad, what's your point.

>>89888336
>Depends on how harsh you're being.

Pretty harsh I guess.

>Why?

I just don't find it very funny or interesting. There's a couple of chuckles during the fight and with Iroh, but it's the sort of thing I tend to think seriously about skipping when I rewatch (unless I'm watching with someone else).

>>89888428

There's a few in book one that are nothing special. Every episode is important for a first time watcher but I've seen the show 10+ times now I think and I just don't care for a number of them.

>>89888500
Why do you think that Amon being revealed a bender WOULDN'T cause the most radicals and deluded equalists to fight among themselves, and the most reluctant ones to basically search for pacific and actually realistic ways to solve their problems (like electing a president)?

>>89888500
>It wasn't Amon who was important, it was the ideas he embodied

The oppression of people who were never show to have been oppressed in any way?

>>89888528
>Filler that does nothing for the story and almost nothing for the world.
that doesn't make it bad

>>89888548

There's a big difference between bad and nothing special. I agree that some of the are nothing special, and I don't really care for them, but that doesn't make them bad.

>>89888584
I guess it's just my opinion then man.

>>89888528

The Ember Island Players is also complete filler that does nothing for the world, but it's still one of the best episodes of the show.

>>89888590

In a show that's as good as Avatar nothing special may as well be bad. When your show is an 8 or a 9 episodes that are a 4 or 5 seem all the worse.

>>89888576
Exactly, but does the show every explore that angle either?

>>89888565
Of course it would, but the show doesn't explore ANY of it. Instead it's like "Amon's gone now, guess that solves all of this rampant terrorism and political/social unrest." Korra never deals with the poitical conflict at all.

>>89888528
>>89888603
>does nothing for the world

What you guys mean with this? It's all world building.

We got to see 2 tribes on the earth kingdom and learned about their legends and magical artifacts, we also saw how a play works on the Fire Nation, and got to see more of their people humanized and what they find fun/scary/what they have pride for and so on.

This all flesh the world more. It is the EXACT KIND of thing that Korra needed.

>>89888621
- But I genuinely don't see the Great Divide as a 4 or 5, or whatever properly scaled score you were going for, because:
- A 4 or 5 IS a bad score.

>>89888640

For me a 5 is a meh and a 4 is kinda bad but not offensively awful.

>>89888640

4 is a kinda bad score. 5 is more like average or mediocre. I would give Great Divide a 6. It's just.. .okay.

>>89888638
>Of course it would, but the show doesn't explore ANY of it. I


And it has nothing to do with him being a bender or not, so I don't know why you are being autistic regarding it. If you wanted them to explore more, it's OK, I agree, but seems that you are just confusing things.

>>89888654
This.

>>89888664
>And it has nothing to do with him being a bender or not

But the show acts as if it does, as if it unravels the entire movement because he's a waterbender. They turned a political/ideological conflict into a fist fight between Korra and Amon.

>>89887794
what was this picture? it wasn't in the show.

would have been amazing if amon was aang though.

>>89888467
That wasn't the point in the first place, just your interpretation of it

>>89888691
>But the show acts as if it does, as if it unravels the entire movement because he's a waterbender.

It does.

His entire basis is that the spirits gave him power to replace the avatar as the new guy who dictates the balance of the world.

Turns out he is just a guy that need to PERSONALLY be there to remove bending. He has no real authority either.

He probably would never be able to find and remove the bending of all the benders of RC,much less the world.

Worse, without he having any other "powers coming from spirits", the equalists would be COMPLETELY eliminated once the other nations started to pay attention to what happened on RC, because he only has few fighters against 4 fucking countries.

So to be an equalist, you would have to live knowing that you are working for a bender that has all the power, will never remove all bending of the world, and that will probably die in a suicide crusade.


Equalism is fucking stupid on their world, it is basically fighting against mother nature and the law of gravity. Their only chance was if Amon was indeed chosen by spirits to change the world, and had much more powers.

>>89888703
>would have been amazing if amon was aang though.

Are you retarded?

>>89888038
I'll raise you.

Avatar:

S1: 8/10
S2: 10/10
S3: 9/10

Korra:

S1: 8/10
S2: 4/10
S3: 5/10
S4: 3/10

>>89888808
think about it

>season one of korra
>amon is at large
>korra still can't master that final element yet

>off comes amons mask, amon is aang.
>korra has been lied to her whole life, she's not the avatar
>"only the avatar can master all four elements" Korra can only master 3.

>>89888970
Stupid. People complained about mutant blood benders, imagine THIS.

>>89889113
yeah but people were gonna call whatever they did stupid.

>>89888026
Amon should have actually been in contact with spirits and not just bullshitting. If some random turtle can give Aang spiritbending then someone could have given it to Amon too. Having him be a mary sue bloodbender was retarded and just a way to force a connection with Tarrlok so they could both be killed off at once.

>>89889122
of course they would if what they did is fucking stupid

>>89887794
I remember how terribly written the show was and how the hero is literally bailed out of how terrible her plans are by plot

I mean first season Korra decides to stop amon by just accusing him of being a waterbender and that just works somehow.

nah. mlp broke /co/
korra just cut the remaining tendons

>>89889891
To be fair it didn't work until Amon became a complete retard also he used water soluable paint despite wearing a Mask he'd be breathing in all day.

>>89888603
The Ember Island Players fulfills the role of a recap episode before the big finale in a very clever format.

It ain't really filler.

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>>89888094
Meelo starts to fart bend... I'm out

>>89889166
This could have tied into Vaatu in Book 2. Just like Raava helped the Avatar gain the four elements, Vaatu could've helped Amon be a literal anti-bender.

>>89888063

Still makes zero sense, because if so then korra would be from the earth kingdom and not from the water tribe (the unknown avatar would belong to the water tribes).

ATLA

S1: 8/10 honestly, a lot of filler episodes but they help building the world, also lore and art is already present, Shao or however thats written is a good antagonist that gets a good build up. Finale is great obviously.

S2: 9/10 Ba Sing Se and many other eps are GOAT obviously but theres a lot of shit at the beginning of the season

S3 Part 1: 9/10 again filler but lot of great stuff and lore, also great finale

S3 Part 2: this is subjective but that was easily a 10/10 for me. Just a few eps exploring the characters further and then the grear finale. Also boiling rock was great too imo

>>89888063
That doesn't make sense because the Avatar reincarnates. It's not like a Slayer where just the powers transfer, it's literally the person's soul leaving their body and going into a newborn.

LOK

S1: 5/10 promising since its in the avatar universe but other than that kinda bad actually. I hated the characters, hated the """"""romance""""", hated the sport that they were doing. That last suicide scene was good but other than that it was just bad. Good music and animation though

S2: 3/10 pants on head retarded story, more unlikeable characters. Two parter about first avatar was good and had amazing visuals

S3: 4/10 some better characters were introduced, story was still shit

S4: 2/10 what????? Some red lotus members had good characters but in the end they were all shallow. Boom man from ATLA had more aura than any of them. Ending was shit also they ruined Iroh in this season but i dont really remember. Ending was not satisfying

Overall this was shite and can be considered the prequel trilogy of /co/

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Objective view on Korra:

S1: 8/10 - I like that it's all set in the city and doesn't try to be another Avatar with another big adventure. The city looks great and comfy. Especially at night. Amon is a solid first villain and him being a blood bender makes sense. Season is dragged down a little by the love triangle, but other than that, it's good stuff.

S2: 7/10 - First six episodes are kinda slow and not that interesting, but it gets much better once we get to the Wan episodes. They are fantastic, and the animation style is really cool. The remaining six episodes are very entertaining and I absolutely love the colorful spirit world. Unalaq isn't the best villain, though, and the whole thing is solved a little too easily, but other than that, I enjoyed it.

S3: 9/10 - Series finally gets on the level of Avatar with the strongest season yet. The villains are great and a lot of fun to watch. I love that there's still creepy shit going on in Ba Sing Se. Zafou is a great new location that gave us the top tier qt Opal. The last five episodes are truly exciting with some really great fights.

S4: 8/10 - Not as good as S3, but a strong conclusion to a great series. Could have been better if the budget didn't get cut, resulting in that forced clip show episode. One could argue that the series goes a little too apeshit with the giant mecha, but it's all very fun and entertaining.

And this is what all of /co/ hates. I'm glad I was able to enjoy it. I've already seen the whole thing three times and I'm looking forward to see it again.

>>89887794
>Was Korra's failure what broke /co/?
/co/ getting itself all excited for something that wasn't going to be there is what broke /co/. We thought it was going to have 1920's Flappers. It didn't. We thought it was going to have Jazz. It didn't have enough. We built up Amon as a savior to Republic City. He was defeated before he could carry out his plan.

>>89888406
His ideology was never actually defeated, you were just supposed to forget about it because he wasn't preaching it for real.

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>>89891019
>Objective view
>7/10 S02
>9/10 S03
>8 for fucking S04

Please, delete your post.

>>89891019
I'm sorry about the current state of your brain

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>>89891019
>I absolutely love the colorful spirit world

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I love how it's pretty much an established fact here that Korra is the worst show ever and anyone who disagrees must have brain damage.

>>89891019
>They are fantastic, and the animation style is really cool
I liked it when Korra turned into sonic, it was really funny

>>89891019
>Series finally gets on the level of Avatar with the strongest season yet
I don't get how you can think this. Can you really say you cared for Korra's characters as much as you cared for ATLA's? That they were as fun and compelling? That the animation had that same "wow" factor? That the setting had the same magic?

I swear it's not nostalgia, I just look at every episode of Korra and it all seems to be standard at best.

>>89891344
It was big on tumblr, enough said

>>89891344
>Korra apologists
Is...is this the new meme? Like Prequel shitters? Jesus fuck I thought we were better than this.

>>89891344
Anyone who disagrees is free to tell us why... so we can show him why he is wrong.

But seriously, it is far from being 'worst show', but there are serious flaws in it that you cannot deny. You can't claim it is more than a 6/10 show unless you value art/setting by a lot. Then you can call it a 7/10.

>>89891380

That explains it then. Everything tumblr likes must be hated here. I never saw any of this bitter hate towards the show while it was airing, so that must have been before tumblr picked up on it.

And let's be perfectly honest, if it truly was such a bad show, it wouldn't have an 8.6 rating on imdb with good reviews pretty much everywhere else.

>>89891435
>if it truly was such a bad show, it wouldn't have an 8.6 rating on imdb
do you even know how imdb rates things? it's not reliable. It's just slightly better than ign and the likes that gave it a 10/10 because of lesbians.

If you're really going to consider anything to say if it is good or not, consider the number of people that Dropped the show. Millions of people just stop watching it.

>>89891474

I know how it works, and I know for a fact that if Korra truly was an objectively bad show, the rating would reflect that. Of course the ratings aren't totally reliable, but nothing truly bad is rated that high.

Except Bollywood movies.

>>89890910
>Overall this was shite and can be considered the prequel trilogy of /co/

You mean the perfectly fine addition to a popular franchise that was hated because of nostalgia fags with too high expectations and too many silly headcanons that were contradicted?

Yep, I can agree with that.

>>89891250
His ideology was proven wrong on every way.

See >>89888796

>>89888118
>>89888828
I've never understood people who rate S1 of Korra so high while rating S3 and 4 so low. LoK was, on the whole, a disappointment, but S3 and 4 by themselves were decent, if not actually kinda good.

S1 and 2 were both complete shit.

>>89888796
But that doesn't negate the fucking point. Non-benders felt oppressed and terrified by benders, and with good reason, since firebenders are apparently the Slytherins of the Avatar-world. What's more is that while your well-spoken argument that being a Equalist is futile, this is never brought up in the fucking show itself.

>>89891797
I agree. Season 1 had a terrific start but fell apart hard in the end. Season 2 was all over the place and was a fucking mess in the end. Season 4 maintained this pattern.

If anything I felt that while Season 3 meandered a bit, it actually had a strong ending.

>>89888406
What you have to stand is that the majority of /co/ has always looked at the first season through some bizarre "the Equalists were right" lens even though, like, there's no actual evidence of inequality in the show itself.

It's just that the people here are natural Lex Luthors. They feel pathetic and held down and not special in their own lives, so they're always going to sympathize with a character in media who believes supers are bad.

>>89892142
>What you have to stand

I swear I typed "under"

>>89892142
>there's no actual evidence of inequality in the show itself.
There were plenty of instances of people being harassed by benders in TLA and Korra. In like the second episode a couple and their store is being extorted by the triple threat triad, and it's implied this is a frequent thing.

I don't think /co/ sympathizes with the Equalists but it's hard not to acknowledge that the people who don't have special abilities are under the mercy of those who do.

>>89892296
It's more like they need a better police force than overthrow benders. "Bending" is something too random amd too common to really create a class division, unless it is being actively enforced by society. This is why half of the most powerful people of the world on Korra and ATLA are non benders, and why we saw plenty of poor defenseless benders.

Also, people painting non benders as they unable to defend themselves is kind of weird, considering that non benders martial artists of the setting are basically super human too, because of wuxia movie logic.

>>89891797
S1 is suprisingly strong in hindsight. The worst part by far is the love triange, but the rest works. It feels like what Korra really should have been, rather than the thematic clusterfuck of S2-4, even if S3 had some good parts.

>>89892670
I wasn't a fan of the Korra/Mako/Asami triangle, but I thought the Mako/Korra/Bolin episode was a lot of fun, and we got a lot of insight into the characters.

>>89892726
I imagine most people didn't like the triangle. Honestly they should just have kept Masami and Borra and drop the drama. Use the time on Pro-bending/Equalists/bonding plot instead.

>>89888063

Azula didn't kill Aang she just put him in a coma.

>>89887812

I remember /co/ writing a better ending to Season one of Korra where Amon Wins and take over the City to set up a season 2 where Amon is voicing the opening season boasting about his victory over the Avatar, it also set up terrorist Korra rebellion against the equalists. Some one wrote a real good Amon Opening speech too.

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>>89894154
With that premise you could even start introducing these guys

>>89888068
The writing quality's not all that great either. ATLA's wasn't GOAT but it at least had some interesting character arcs. LoK doesn't really have anything like Zuko or Azula, it's more of a cavalcade of events that everyone reacts to without changing a whole lot.

>>89891525
>I know for a fact that if Korra truly was an objectively bad show, the rating would reflect that
People that don't like the show don't vote for it. Why would it reflect the ratings if the people that didn't like it simply won't bother with it? explain to me.

The show lost MILLIONS of viewers each season. How do you think those people that didn't even bother to finish it would vote?

Avatar was never good.

>>89895443

Why do you think those who didn't finish it didn't rate it?

>>89887812
That's not so bad, what's bad was how it's never actually explained what he does to remove bending. You can make all sorts of assumptions, but given that it's so easy for people to say he's permanently blocking chi or some shit, it just makes the lack of elaboration more annoying. Not to mention that Amon's plan to eradicate Airbending makes no sense since we already know FROM THE FACT THE HE AND TARRLOCK ARE POWERFUL BLOODBENDERS that removing someone's bending doesn't remove their ability to pass on the genetic trait. Even stranger is that whatever he's doing is something biological, it's not spiritbending, he's using bloodbending to remove bending abilities, so why the fuck does spiritbending solve it?

>>89895878
Not him, but all the rating sites i've seen are only thousands of votes, there are barely any voters compared to what the show lost in viewers, and since they stopped watching i doubt they liked it very much.

>>89894210
Set them up as a benders looking to help squash Amon's revolution, only to find out that they have their own nefarious plans with Korra. As they try and convince her the way of the Red Lotus.

>>89891584
>being this fucking delusional
No, people can go into great detail on why Korra or the prequels are absolute garbage, but people like you always fail to address any point and just make shit up. I bet you thought DMC Devil may cry was a great addition too, you filth.

>>89888026
A fucking energy bender.

Removing bending was an established power of energy bending from the original series, where as there was never any mention of blood bending being able to shut off bending.

They ignored a perfectly good, unique ability supported by the previous show, and instead went with some bullshit addition to an already existing power.

>>89895878
Why would you bother rating something you didn't like?

why would you bother even researching it?

Also, if they did vote, the ratings wouldn't be 8's and 9's, so we can say for sure that they did not vote.

>>89888026
>What the fuck else would he be
As people said before, what Amon said would actually make more sense (a spirit giving him powers).

>>89887794

>implying any of these qualities is what broke Korra

Hypocritical, misguided or hollow villains is Avatar's gib, ever since the first season. No, Aang should not have been Amon. Y

es, Amon being a bloodbender wasn't unique or mystical, but like real life villains Amon was far simpler, and had a general simple goal beneath the complex speeches he hade.

Yes, it was pretty much the best way to wrap it up in 12 episodes; remember these guys are used to working with nearly double that amount.

No, Amon was not the worst villain, that still belongs to Unalaq (as admitted by season 4 itself), nor was he the most disappointing, which belongs to Zaheer.

Yes, TLK should have played up flappers and Jazz more, though the former does turn up in season 2.

No, it is not the worst thing ever, it is still moderately entertaining, it just didn't have the same quality or cohesive overall story as the original; a good comparison of the original to the sequel is Davies to Moffat, where the former can write a long running story and the other just makes it up as they go along with initially interesting premises that fall flat.

>>89896012

It's not confirmed that she fixes it with spirit bending; bloodbending has been used by previous avatars. Alternatively, maybe energy bending can reconnect sections of the brain via the transmission of signals that would have otherwise been blocked by bloodbending.

>>89898998
>Alternatively, maybe energy bending can reconnect sections of the brain via the transmission of signals that would have otherwise been blocked by bloodbending.

>You can make all sorts of assumptions, but given that it's so easy for people to say he's permanently blocking chi or some shit, it just makes the lack of elaboration more annoying.

>>89887812

I liked the idea of a non-bender kicking the ass of benders. It felt like a human winning a battle against saiyans. But yeah, turns out he's a bender.

>>89898998
The story didnt make any sense at all in S02 so i don't get what exactly you're saying that saves It.

It wasn't 100% cohesive even in other seasons (Kuvira basically defeated herself, for example).

>>89894139
What?

>>89888528
The Great Divide isn't even filler, though I was under the impression it was the single filler episode for years.
It winds up being an episode about how Aang needs to not pick sides, but mostly that deceiving outright lying to people for the greater good is okay.
Sure, it's not really a part of later episodes, but it's still growth of his role as Avatar.

>>89894139

I'm pretty sure Katara actually had to bring him back to life with the spirit water

>>89890427
yeah that made me give up on it until season 4, kept me away right before the kickass fight with the Red Lotus too
God damn it I hate Meelo SO MUCH.

>>89902181

Nah we see he is alive in his mind.

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>>89889891
>Season 1 was supposed to be a stand alone season. As in, this was the real ending of this series, if Bryke only got one season.
>Bryke honestly wrote Korra being Deus Ex Machina by the previous Avatar out of nowhere was a good idea
>They thought pairing Korra up with Mako on the last minute and having him suddenly leave Asami was acceptable
>They believed spending so much time on a pointless love triangle and a fictional magical sport instead of focusing on the Equalists.

I will never forgive Bryke. They earned their title of being the George Lucas of Western animation.

>>89902219
No, she literally brought him back to life.
Go rewatch it.

>>89902611
I did, he was just in a coma.

>>89887794
>Was Korra's failure what broke /co/?

God no. After season 2, people were jumping ship left and right, but that's not what broke /co/.

What finally broke them was the brutal murder of the Cartoon revival of 2012. So many promising shows from dedicated people, and we had to watch them all die.

Korra isn't what broke the cartoon side of this board, the fact she limped on and continued to fail even the lowest of expectations every time while the bright new stars in the sky burned out did the trick. Someone might have screamed "I will become a DARK AVATAR" on screen, but it would have been survivable if just one of them had lived on.

They're gone now.

>>89887794
The biggest problem with Korra (besides the absolutely atrocious animation from Studio Pierrot in Book 2) was just the sheer lack of planning. Each season was haphazardly put together and treated as its own story because the writers had no idea whether they'd be getting another season or not. Nick deserves a lot of the blame for this for sure but Bryke should have strongly demanded a full show from the get-go, or at least treated it like one. There was no consistent arc like in ATLA.

>>89902645
"I went down. I didn't just get hurt, did I? It was worse than that. I was gone. But you brought me back"
A coma would still fall under getting hurt.
He died, anon.

>>89903150
>or at least treated it like one
I really don't get why they didn't.
They did with AtLa and it worked out great.
Why have so little faith after that?

>>89899475

I'm saying there were flappers in season 2. Ginger?

Nothing saves it, I pointed out that avatar had a cohesive story throughout, while it's sequel did not.

How do the Avatars know that being killed in the Avatar State will end the Avatar cycle? I mean, the only way they can possibly know that and be completely certain is if an Avatar actually died in the Avatar State, but then there wouldn't be an Avatar anymore and the cycles ends.

>>89902698
This. So many great shows and Korra survived because she was a """""""Strong female character""""""

>>89903373

They don't know what a coma is.

>>89903641
He still died regardless.
Go rewatch it.

>>89887794
I miss the Saturday night Swing/Jazz threads we had back in season 1. All that Jazz and rainymood com, so good.

>>89903673

He didn't.

It was supposed to be /co/'s cowboy bebop and open up a string of great new action shows.

Instead it was a huge flop that killed the vibe

>>89903790
You're just saying this get a rise out of people, aren't you?

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>>89903768
Forgot my pic dammit.

>>89903804

No, there is no solid proof that Azula's attack killed Aang.

I feel like ATLA had the edge on the fact that Ozai was the villan from the beggining, Aang could beat all the baddies he wanted but in the end the true challenge was going to be Fire Hitler.

And Korra had a villan per season, it doesn't help that most of them are bad, but the biggest flaw imo is that it's hard to get exited about Earth Dictator or the Fantastic Four when Korra already beat a fucking god in season 2. Season 3 and 4 are better written but that doesn't mean much when the enemy is weak.

>>89903886
Except >>89903373 and the fact that he died.
Fuck off, retard.

>>89903917

Aang was just being a little bitch. If he really died he wouldn't have come back.

>>89903954
He did really die and only came back because of extra magic water.
Again, go rewatch the show or, shit, just watch it in general because I feel like you haven't seen it at all.

>>89903954
>If he really died he wouldn't have come back.
People die and come back all the time.
It's called resuscitation. That heart stops beating? You're fucking dead, they just brought you back before you got brain damage from lack of oxygen.

>>89904002

I did, but Azula does not have it in her to kill.

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>>89887794
>tfw you wanted Korra to be good
>tfw it was worse than nothing at all

>>89904591
Oh, it's been Scrapper all along.
Fuck off.

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>>89904591

>>89904613
>>89904647

I'm not Scrapper but Azula would never kill a person.

>>89904699
Good thing the Avatar isn't just a person now, huh?

>>89904699
If you actually think that you're insane.

>>89904834

I do and anyone who thinks she would is a fool.

>>89891019
You know what? I could actually somewhat understand this if it weren't for one thing: Season 2 was TRASH! Seriously, it was one of the worst seasons of any highly-regarded franchise.

>>89891019
>And this is what all of /co/ hates.
Not all of /co/, just a vocal group of autists who like to circlejerk.

Your opinions are pretty much objective on the show within the fandom as a whole, and among the people in the LoK threads when it was airing that weren't just hating on the show.

>>89888118
>Season 3
>5/10

I'll fucking fight you mate

>>89902508
It's even worse honestly, because they didn't even stick to that ending either. When people started complaining they caved and tried to satisfy the "fans" instead of writing their own story.

>>89887794
Avatar

S1 6.5/10
S2 9.5/10
S3 8.5/10

Korra

S1 5.0/10
S2 2.0/10
S3 7.0/10
S4 6.5/10

Korra was overall a mediocre show, but it certainly wasn't the worst of the worst. I think a lot of anons got bit by the hype and continuation of how great AtLA was. When it failed to deliver we got over exaggeration on how shit it was yes, but Korra would receive even worse backlash if the art and sound wasn't good.

>>89889923
There's an alternate universe where the mods did their jobs, MLP was fully integrated into /co/'s compendium, and we have peaceful threads about it to this day.

I wish I lived in that universe.

>>89896045
If they were not so sure about Viacom axing the show at any second for not meeting the "Spongebob Standard" I would see this as possible, but unlike the first series I think they had a very real fear of an incomplete story if it didn't wrap major plots in a single season. Frankly I blame the environment of Viacom for holding the potential of the series back, but heck considering that it wasn't such a bad show.

>>89887794
Suggested slogan for /co/
>/co/: Eventually we'll hate everything

>>89888038
Avatar:

S1: 7.5/10
S2: 9/10
S3: 8/10

Korra:

S1: 7/10
S2: 6/10
S3: 8/10
S4: 7/10

>>89891380
>It was big on tumblr, enough said

Everything that's popular here has a following on tumblr.

>>89892670
>The worst part by far is the love triange, but the rest works.

Really Korra getting all her powers back at the last second and the sappy "I love you bit" works?

I still like the season overall but here's my proposed fix for this:

>Show Korra and everyone being sad/torn up
>End season on the murder/suicide
>In season 2 when Korra is trying harder to pursue the spiritual side of being the avatar she has the moment with Aang and then gives the other people her bending back.

That way it can be basically the same outcome wise but it flows a little better.

Korra was only a failure if you have issues with women, but that's your problem.

To decent people it was amazing.

>>89903799
It was Nickelodeon's fault that it (((flopped))), if you can even call it that.

>>89903599
So you ADMIT to hating women. Good to know.

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>>89887794
>Was Korra's failure what broke /co/?

Probably. It was kind of really unexpected the drop in quality.

At least /co/ moved on. ATLAB fans took it harder.

>>89888479
>What is Crossroads of Destiny
FTFY

>>89888532
This is why you are a child, everybody treats you like a child, and nobody outside of your safe space on /co/ (or heaven forbid fuckwitchan) takes you seriously.

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>Atlab was written by Aaron Ehasz and DiMartino with Konietzko

>Korra was written by just DiMartino and Konietzko

Funny how just one piece missing fucks up everything.

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>>89887846
>Maybe if we had more ten episodes, his back story could be better explored.

No, we really wouldn't have. The first season was pitched as a mini series that was made into a full series as production started. They got more episodes than they knew what to do with already.

Korra is the better series because it is genuinly a show designed for mature viewers (hence the crying on this board).

AtlA is still only a children's cartoon when you get down to it.

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>>89914532
I think I lost brain cells reading this shit post lol

>>89914504
You mean your soul?

>>89888063

That was from an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer!

>>89914519
Funny, they did just fune for themselves with every other season.

>>89914542
Isn't it time you cleaned the cheeto dust off your fedora?

>>89914532
You heard it here folks, only mature viewers can watch a show with repeated fart jokes, forgettable characters and no cohesive story. If you didn't like Korra you're genuinly retarded.

>>89902508
You have issues.

>>89891382
And I thought we were better than your attitude, but lo and behold...

It's really amazing how easily you can seperate the people who actually watched the show, discuss it and appreciate it; the the dickweeds who just hate everything with a woman in the lead role ITT.

>>89914571
I don't like cheetos unless they're spicy and I believe only grandpas should wear fedoras.

I myself thought it was even better than AtlA. Public opinion seems to agree.

Don't know what /co/`s problem seems to be, but I hope someday they'll get over themselves.

>>89914735
why are you samefagging? at least change up your format for shit posting.

>>89914735
Public opinion actually feels AtLA > TLoK, but they don't feel Korra was utter shit like /co/ does. It's just the 4chan mentality it seems.

>>89887794
was bending ball just a one off thing?
because that's why i stopped watching the show, i really didn't care about that stupid sport

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>/co/ says The Legend of Korra is bad
>It's actually great

>/co/ praises Star vs The Forces of Evil
>It's actually average

How is this allowed?

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>>89914788

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Just gonna leave this here
https://youtu.be/bmKaQqinWKY

>>89914813
not giving views to your youtube shilling

>>89914788
Star vs sucked first season except its finale. S1 finale to S2 has been pretty good, and thus deserves the recognition. It reminds me of Gravity Falls S2, just before Gravity Falls started to fall halfway through, so until that happens we should just respect it.

As for you saying TLoK is great, most people on /co/ just shit on it because of its failure to deliver like AtLA did, but the majority opinion on any sphere of the internet is that AtLA is better, though not the shit show /co/ says it is. We can use statistics, ratings, and viewership charts if you want.

>>89914838

Not him but why do views matter if you use adblock? I use it on everything.

I had a hunch this show was going to be terrible when it was announced it would have a female protagonist.

>>89915042
Don't even play like that. /co/ was hyped as fuck.

>>89914788
>/co/ says The Legend of Korra is bad
>It's actually a very mixed bag

>/co/praises Star vs The Forces of Evil
>fucking good, it's a good show

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>>89887794
All that show needed was Korra to have character growth instead of four seasons where she's just an obstinate fuck-up over and over.

>>89914842
>Star vs sucked first season except its finale

fucking plotfags

>>89914500
I am baffled by whatever the fuck you're on about. Are you okay anon?

>>89915068

Does it have a plot in season 2? If yes, I might pick it up again.

>>89915052
/co/ was, I had so many reservations I opened a casino.

>>89910986
Yeah, I remember a post by one of them on their Tumblr that stated they usually don't listen to fans and pander to them during the the airing of the first season. It's pretty hilarious how they completely caved in on that immediately after the season ended, but by then, it was too late and the ratings fell.

>>89914788
Korra is awful, but I do agree that Star Vs from what I've seen has been terribly mediocre.

Does anyone have the link of the Korean studio that animated LoK being interviewed over their thoughts about it? Even they said that Korra was an annoying character and they didn't like certain aspects of where the show was going.

>>89915476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrOILCn0ggc

this the one?

>>89902508
Fuck you Pro Bending was a fantastic addition to the world, one of the few things that S1 did right.

>>89914320
Yeah the ending definitely sucked, but it seemed to be more a fault of Nick for not giving Bryke information about S2, one of the few things that Nick actually did wrong here vs. Bryke on the show.

>>89915502
>Fuck you Pro Bending was a fantastic addition to the world, one of the few things that S1 did right.

When you've got twelve episodes to tell your story, wasting time on a side plot that goes nowhere is generally not a good idea.

>>89915502
Pro-bending was joke that even Bryke dropped immediately in season 2. It had no relevance to the overall plot, other than to introduce Korra to Mako, Bolin, and indirectly, Asami. It was a boring sporting event. When you look at it objectively, this sport could have been removed almost completely.

Seriously, the most popular sport in the country, listened to and watched by people everywhere, doesn't even adequately pay their players above minimum wage? And those that make the play-offs have to pay their entry fee, which ends up the prize money on a winners-take-all scenario?

>>89915510
>Yeah the ending definitely sucked, but it seemed to be more a fault of Nick for not giving Bryke information about S2, one of the few things that Nick actually did wrong here vs. Bryke on the show.
They knew they only had 12 episodes to work with. There's no excuse for the ending of S1 to suck, it was planned as a stand alone miniseries.

>>89888090
>Jet sucks

what the fuck

>>89915068
I didn't even watch Star Vs for the plot. I tried Season 1 and it was just annoying as shit so I stopped. Then I watched Season 2 and it felt a lot smoother. S1 and S2 just aren't the same, though S1 isn't as bad as I originally thought now having watched S2 and S1 in that order.

>>89888038
Avatar

S1: 8/10
S2: 9/10
S3: 9/10

Korra

S1: 3/10
S2: 2/10
S3: 4/10
S4: 3/10