Why did we have to wait so long to get violent R-Rated movies

>>89858388
Because executives assumed that superheroes were for kids and, therefore, superhero movies would make the most money if they were marketed to kids or at least watchable by them.

Then Deadpool came out and made a shit ton of money and that proved them wrong.

They were viewing superhero movies in the same category as Star Wars and Harry Potter.

>>89858388
Muh China. Rated R films make less money and considering most capes mostly operate under PG13 guidelines in the comics so there's no REAL reason for them to be rated R. It's is appreciated though, PG-13 action is neutered as fuck.

Because the studios always want to bet on safe returns, so everything is screened for test audiences to death.

Ryan Reynolds was one of the producers on his own movie, so he got a large say in how it turned out. So you got a passion project and it turned out they made a good movie and audiences loved it

The studios will now make R rated comic movies because someone else took the risk

>>89858827
>The studios will now make R rated comic movies because someone else took the risk

Which studio is that?

>>89858511
Comic violence often goes beyond PG13 (without much benefit) but pretty much everything else would be fine.

But when will there be graphic sex scene in a big Hollywood superhero blockbuster film? They should do it. Have Iron Man smashing the pussy, it shows his ass and the lady's breasts, and they show as much as they can get away with

>>89859373
>wanting to see a manlet have sex

>>89859395

>Wanting to watch a man during a sex scene

>>89859220
Whichever one made Deadpool

>>89859424
Are you the gay

>>89859424
>wanting to watch a woman during a sex scene

gay af

>>89859460

So that's the only studio who will make R rated comic book movies?

>>89859395

Manlets deserve to see themselves in impossible situations just like tall people are allowed to see tall people that fly.

>>89859424

I just watch to learn the penis techniques, nothing like that you idiot

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R-Rated movies in general are a smaller fraction of what gets made now more than ever

The only difference is maybe that the budget they tend to require would necessitate a juicier bottom line than a regular action movie. After all, a superhero movie without a bunch of crazy gimmicks is just a regular ass action movie.

Deadpool got around this by being made by a bunch of enthusiastic people who were willing to take it on the chin in terms of the payday. Logan seems to be getting around this by featuring hardly any action, no fancy costumes, and no cool set pieces.

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>>89859526

Sure sure


faggot

>>89859220

They literally had to end-run the execs to get deadpool made and to show just how worried they were over their 60 million dollar investment, just before they started shooting and this was after massive upswell from the internet liking the 'leaked' concept video, they cut a couple million to make it even more cheap, and dropped it in the death field that used to be February.

January, feb were considered death zone for movies so it had all of that working against it.

I think mild weather saved deadpool more than just the internet reaction, meme advertising campaign or anything, we had lightest winter in probably 50 years, last year.

So it had all of those things going against it and it was rated R so no china, and that was just starting out.

It rewrote the book in a lot of ways about quite a few different things, and it took all of that to get people to notice at all.

>>89859220
20th century fox made Deadpool to make Ryan Reynolds shut up, it made a gorillion dollars, now everyone's scrambling to make an R-rated superhero movie.

>>89859526
Don't try and learn things from how they're depicted in a movie

Doing something in real life is fundamentally different from doing something for a camera, in a way that's meant to be amusing, for an audience

>>89859563
>now everyone's scrambling to make an R-rated superhero movie.

Which studio is scrambling?

>>89858388
Thanks to the religion of peace people are so inundated with pointless, unjustified violence that R ratings aren't a big deal anymore.

>>89858388

Wasn't Blade and Spawn Rated R?

>>89859693
Blade movies were R-Rated

Spawn was PG-13, which says a lot

>>89859693

And Super, which was directed by James Gunn. And Kick-Ass.

>>89859719
Super is a superhero-themed movie, not a superhero movie

Calling Super a superhero movie is like calling Dodgeball a sports drama

>>89859589

honestly I think the industry understands fairly well that it is still dangerous to make big tent pole r rated movies, I don't think there is a big scramble, I think some thought their might be but really Logan going R by same company is biggest change probably.

Marvel's bread and butter needs china so they won't change much and that leaves..Sony? who is teaming up with Marvel/disney so that isn't going R either.

There is 3 companies in U.S making big movies, so there ya go.

>>89859693

>Again

Not the first time.

>>89859771
Dodgeball is a sports comedy.

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>>89858388
Thanks to this guy
>Deadpool banned in China
>Still went on to be the highest-grossing R rated movie of all time

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>>89862514
Also, it's all Deadpool-verse now
They even removed the F4 cast for the newer promo pics after it flopped

>tfw America's bizarre ratings system is infecting the rest of the world

>>89862639
Well you make movies people want to see outside of a film festival then we'll talk.

>>89859771
>>89860286
Dodgeball is the definitive sports movie.

>>89858511
Most Batman comics would be rated R easily.

>>89858388
Because everyone knows superheroes are for kiddies.

It's true though

>>89859510
It gotta trend first before others will follow suit.

>>89862514
Why was it banned in China again?

>>89862582
Why does this bitch is still at the middle?

>>89862777
Probably sex and violence.

>>89862796
I thought only ghosts and politically motivated movies were banned there.

>>89862802
Hardly matters. The internet is huge

>>89862802
>ghosts being banned in China
>Spirited Away is a really popular movie there
As you wish...

>>89862802
Does that apply for hollywood movies only?
Cause they sure have shitloads of their own supernatural/ghost movies

>>89862846
Maybe.

As I already mentioned. Spirited Away is really big in China as well as the other Ghibli films.

>>89858421
If I were Ryan Reynolds I'd fucking open souvenir shop in Fox's studio with Deadpool's box office numbers posters, T-shirts and etc right next to the office where shareholders meet.

>>89859589
None but the people making DC movies keep saying "oh we wanted to go R-rated" or "the original version was R-rated"
Of courae they have only said this after Deadpool was a success

>>89862582
How long until Tatum is edited out?

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One of these was a PG rated film with Joker and Harley Quinn, the other an R rated film with Colossus and Doughnut Steel.
(neither opened ini Chinkland)

Makes you think.

>>89864426
>Doughnut Steel.
negasonic is an actual character from an actual xmen comic

>>89864426

It's really sad how terrible Suicide Squad turned out to be. I don't even know how to describe it, except an emo/scene bait movie or some shit. Disappointing as fuck. All because they thought Batman v Superman was "dark" and not because it had too much shit going on.

>>89864446
>negasonic is an actual character from an actual xmen comic
Negasonic is not a buzz-cut female Cannonball-character with an attitude.

>>89859526
That does not really make you sound any straighter

>>89864468
Remember when the Enchantress' FINAL FORM was basically Nightcrawler from the X-Men (a teleporting swashbuckler). What the fuck was that?

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>>89858388
You were saying?

>>89864519
Shit, she basically became Dudepeel.

>>89864520
STILL this is not out in region 1 Blu Ray.
Pisses me off.

>>89858388
You mean like Deadpool?
Or Kickass? Or Blade? Or Super? Or Watchmen?

>>89864552
Yes, that has been the ongoing conversation in this thread.
Nice job catching up.

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>>89864519

I should have seen the warning signs when Enchantress didn't look or act like this and was an ugly voodoo meme character. I should quit the cinematic universe and stick to comics. At least the comics that didn't turn out to be shit.

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>>89858388

>>89858421

Plenty of parents snuck their kids into the movie though so honestly, it didn't stop kids from showing up anyway.

>>89864468
it couldn;t decide if it wanted to be a Repo: The Genetic Opera or a Queen of the Damned, and suffered for it

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>>89864572

>>89864586
It also didn't help that it couldn't decide if it was a vehicle for Will Smith or Margot Robbie; it was weird how they basically had two entirely separate films going on simultaneously.

There's never a real meaningful link between the two characters aside from a nanobomb. No romance or camraderie or even real friendship, they are just both in it doing their own thing.

>>89864598

>still no sequel
>we'll never get Angel Gang, Dark Judges, or Mad Dog

>>89864682
It made negative 15 million dollars, more or less.
You'll get the sequel the minute you become rich enough to bankroll another 50 million dollars.

>>89864641
like....some sort of Suicide Squad...

>>89864715
Yes, but even the Dirty Dozen had meaningful interactions between the characters.
Also, they could have just sent Deadshot, Diablo and Croc, as everyone else was busy being completely useless or actively detrimental to the mission.
Harley's whole inclusion was to gin up ticket sales along with her boyfriend.

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>>89858388
There's nothing to suggest that this movie will do any better than the last two solo wolverine outings, R rating or no.

Also the Thumbnail looks like "Mel Gibson and his granddaughter bury a Jew in the back yard".

>>89864702
DVD sales were good.

>>89864802

old man logan might work in comics but honestly it doesn't seem like a good idea to me make a movie about it when one thing people wanted was iconic suit that they never got.

>>89864819
They weren't 15 million good, even when they only sold it as a 3-D combo pack.

God, I am glad the 3D meme is dead.

>>89859373
There's porn for that, action movies don't need useless sex scenes and in many cases don't need useless romances either, they're just there because test audiences are retarded and the creators need to pad out their movies.

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>>89864598
Just make a goddamn netflix series already
200mil they wasted on Marco Pallo (which got cancelled) surely could've been better spent on other originals like Dredd

>mfw the closest thing we got was Almost Human

>>89858388
because last time they tried R superheroes movies things went terribly wrong.

>>89858388
They write in a way that connects to their audience.

And the audience of today is an over-entitled group of semi-hedonists that indulge in nothing but fleeting pleasures with no regards to a livable future, and yet still come away with a sense of ennui and a lack of personal fulfillment that they blame on the world at large rather than themselves.

>>89864566
>meme character
Dirt witch EnchantreSS>Comic Enchantress>Belly dancer Enchantres

>>89868168
The projection is strong with this one

>>89858388
Until Deadpool 2 comes out