>>89723510
Welcome back Anons! Last time, OP messed up on where Bendis's run started and we read The Adventures of Ben Urich, featuring Daredevil.
Today, maybe our main character will actually show up in his own book.
Before anyone asks, I did see the Iron Fist trailer. Most relevant thing is the date, meaning we may NOT be finished with these threads by the time the show starts.
In case you're wondering what's the deal with Fisk's glasses, he's blind now. After Echo found out he manipulated her into trying to kill Daredevil, she blinded him.
>some random gangster tries to start shit with the freaking Kingpin
Predictions on how poorly this ends for him?
>stabbing the Kingpin in front of all his guys
Oh no, they're ALL stabbing him.
All I can think of is "What if Fisk falls on one of them? Will they try and get him off them, or just give him up as a lost cause?"
And Bendis's trend of shitting on pre-existing villains begins.
>two spreads within ten pages
So far, we've got two pages of Matt in a row, more than the last arc.
>"These are the facts of this case."
Was Bendis involved in the Netflix show at all, or did they just like this line?
And a THIRD spread in one issue!
FOUR! Can we go for five?
So... Nitro? Pretty sure he has to reform himself after he explodes, but whatever.
Not even gonna check if the fat guy on top of Foggy is okay?
>"I was the target. Said my name."
He was literally the one guy who DIDN'T say your name when addressing you on that page.
Why is there only one eye on that kid's smiley face?
Okay, guess it ISN'T Nitro.
Dude, you just blew up a crowded area, sending cars flying, in MARVEL NEW YORK! What did you THINK was going to happen?
Well, at least Mack's gone. That's something.
>>89732780
I wouldn't say this is Bendis shitting on the Kingpin, more like when a writer wants to start their run with a bang they take out of commission the big bad to show they mean business, like how Morrison's Batman starts with the Joker getting shot in the fucking face and being taken out of the picture for a few issues.
Did they change his clothes and stab him again, or did Bendis forgot HIS LAST DAMN ISSUE?
What's that? You wanted some Bendisspeak, Anons? HERE YOU GO!
>>89733159
True, I just hoped that would get SOMEONE to respond. Also, "Hi X-Anon!"
By the way Anons, this was back during Busiek's run of Avengers, before Bendis ruined Scarlet Witch.
If this were Spider-Man, they would've already shot at him.
Holy shit, he really did shoot at him!
>"That man you just pulled your gun on is the only thing keeping this city from turning into a living Hell on Earth".
That already happened, and he was basically useless for that.
Speaking of, X-Anon, WEN INFERNO
Wait, that WAS Nitro? Dude's never had a time limit on his powers before. Besides, he's fought WAY tougher guys than Daredevil, and didn't beg for his life then.
Matt, no he didn't. He called you "counselor".
For all you know, he was bought by the person you're up against in court.
>>89733217
Hi dude. Man, I really shouldn't have stayed awake for your storytime last night haha, although I'm still on vacation so
>>89733307
This whole sequence with the rookie and the experienced cop feels like a DKR reference/rip-off. Which one it really is I can't tell because it's Bendis.
>WEN INFERNO
That's volume... six I want to say? I'm heavily considering running all of it and not just the X-related tie-ins. Eh, I'll just run a poll and let people decide.
Like I said, Kingpin's still blind.
Okay, I vaguely remember skimming over some Daredevil, and wasn't Momma Nelson skinny and had a completely different hair style?
I have no idea who this woman is, but I think she ATE his mom.
>>89733407
I don't blame you for not being up and reading Bendis in the middle of the night. Just because I have nothing better to do doesn't mean I assume nobody else does.
>"Who is that?"
>"I don't know."
>"You don't-"
>"I can't see who you're pointing to."
Unlike most Bendis-speak, this is pretty funny.
>>89733434
But man, that's like, not stereotypical enough!
>"Who gives a fuck about a guy in tights?"
How do people with this attitude SURVIVE in the Marvel Universe? I know he's from Jersey, where the only superhero they have was created after this, but come on!
Does... does Bendis think Turk is dead? Wait, WAS he dead, and someone brought back their favorite comic relief character?
>>89733507
I looked it up, according to the wiki, that isn't her. I checked her last appearance before that, and that looks nothing like her.
Who the fuck IS that?
Who's on that computer screen in the third panel? All I can make out is x's on her tits and shoulder length hair.
Remember the "Nuff Said" comics, Anons? Where every writer was challenged to write a book with no words, and I took the time to joke about Bendis doing one?
Well, he did.
Presumably this sign doesn't count, since that's always been there.
The hell is he looking for? Last I checked, Matt's smell isn't good enough to differentiate scents between people, like Wolverine's can.
How did he get this past a premise of "no words"?
>>89733540
According to Comic Vine he died in an issue of Punisher: War Zone. I've never been big on Frank so I had no idea.
>>89733634
Mutie pr0n, obvs.
Resurrection aside, the same guy has killed Matt Murdock's two most well known love interests. Who else has actually SUCCEEDED at that?
>>89733755
So that's not just an obscure 90's mutant I don't recognize, got it.
Do you really not keep a side-arm for protection in situations like this? You're not gonna snipe him if he knows where you are, man.
And boot to the head.
>>89733675
My favorite 'Nuff Said issues were NXM, X-Force, and Avengers. Great stuff.
/k/, is it possible to break whatever kind of rifle this is that easily?
Oh wait, he does have sidearms. He's just using them after too late.
Matt, you're only holding onto him by his jacket. Dude could slip out fairly easily before you get any info.
>>89733874
I never read X-Force's, and I can't remember what NXM was (pretty sure it was Genosha getting Genosha'd though, which was a good issue), but I also liked Thunderbolts and Captain Marvel.
Bendis, seriously, using letters is cheating.
Boomerang? The fuck are you wearing?!
>"DORMAMMU, HELP!"
Seriously, what's with the trenchcoat here?
And that is the face of a man who just shit himself in the middle of a beating.
>>89733966
>I never read X-Force's
Dude! You're breaking my heart right now! Go read that shit ASAP
>and I can't remember what NXM was (pretty sure it was Genosha getting Genosha'd though, which was a good issue)
Nah, it was the issue were Cassandra Nova leaves the Prof in a coma inside her body so Jean and Emma have to venture inside Nova's mind to rescue him
Bullseye, the fuck is the deal with that hat? You're not freaking Kung Lao!
Eh, I don't have to leave for a few hours. Let's try and get through... what do you say, two more issues?
>>89734131
Do you have any IDEA the size of my reading backlog? I've got ALL of Doctor Strange, ALL of Man-Thing, then I'm gonna start reading LoSH/L.E.G.I.O.N. so I don't dissapoint JSAnon anymore, and that's just what I've taken off from my hard drive!
Besides, you'll get to it eventually.
Why do you have a pool AND lakefront property?
Normally I'd whine about such blatant copy-pasting here, but I think it's intentional this time, as opposed to "Jessica Jones is bored listening to another freaking client".
Vanessa's role in the comics was basically as a moralizing role for Fisk. Unlike in the Netflix show, where he turned her towards darkness, abit unintentionally, in the comics he would do anything to keep her safe, even if it meant giving up crime. In Miller's run, the only reason he got back into things was because he thought she was murdered.
Remember this, it'll hurt later.
>"Your husband gave clear instructions to never involve you."
Like I said, this has been part of her character for a while.
I'm guessing that last flashback with this guy was in Chicago, otherwise Bendis is forgetting something ELSE he wrote.
Blind or not, he could literally crush your head between his hands, so I'd watch it if I were you.
For those of you who haven't read Born Again (seriously, read Frank Miller's Daredevil), Kingpin knows who Daredevil really is, and has for years at this point.
>>89734182
Sure thing dude, got nothing better to do anyway.
>>89734213
>Besides, you'll get to it eventually.
In god-knows-how-many years, yeah!
>"If I say no one touches the lawyer! NO ONE touches the lawyer!"
And we all know how this went...
And, just in case you forgot, there's a price on his head anyway.
Those faces do NOT say "fear".
Does "what's in it for me?" work on superheroes ever? HAS it ever?
>>89734367
>he could literally crush your head between his hands
Heh.
>>89734396
Look at it this way, unlike me, you've got a long time until you get to Bendis, or worse.
That's a closer shot of Kingpin's face than I EVER want to see again.
No, Bendis, that was NOT a request asking for a bigger shot of his face!
I guess pulling a Batman is a lot easier when the other guy can't see.
Can you IMAGINE sitting in one tree for three weeks? I mean, I imagine he brought food and supplies with him, but I need a stretch after laying down for three HOURS.
Remember, we already know this guy betrays and gets all of Fisk's men to stab him, because Bendis opened on that.
>>89734538
Yeah, I'm both dreading and giddy over the idea of having to run fucking Schism, or AvX, or the current Inhumans shitshow. Actually, no, that last one is just plain dread.
In case you want to know where the whole "Everyone knows who Daredevil is" thing came from? It started in this run.
I don't know jack shit about Fisk's kid. He was never in any of the books I read.
Although I imagine this is something that would be unexpected from him earlier?
>the diamonds are black
Fucking hell, does NOBODY in Marvel actually play cards?
would be nice if it were real.
9 x 12 each, watercolor and stuff.
http://duss005.deviantart.com/art/demon-nights-315907247
DC was Dick Van Dyke’s 1960’s. It was The Flash, alter ego of handsome, earnest police scientist Barry Allen, and his reporter girlfriend Iris West, whose sharp, delicate features, Capri pants and hair ribbons made you swoon, but not lust. The lettering was clean, and the art, wide and open, imbued with the sense of Ivy League decorum and buttoned-down sensibilities.
Marvel, meanwhile, was Lenny Bruce. Beginning with the Fantastic Four in 1961, Mr. Lee and his crew created comics that tapped into the roiling social and sexual energies of the time. When the heroes weren’t fighting villains, they were battling their inner demons, unsympathetic cops or other superheroes.
As Michael Chabon, author of The Amazing Adventures Of Kavalier & Clay , the Pulitzer Prize–winning novel about two comic-book writers in the 1930’s, put it: “DC was part of the establishment. Marvel was different. When I was younger, I liked the heroes of DC because they seemed like parental figures. When I was older, I liked Marvel, because they seemed like they were my contemporaries.”
Mr. Quesada is convinced that some good old-fashioned gloves-off rivalry will be good for business. “I liked it when the two companies hated each other,” he said. “It made it better for the fans. You know, if you like DC, then you hated Marvel. If you like Marvel, then you hated DC.”
>>“What the fuck is DC anyway?” Mr. Quesada said, stoking the fires. “They’d be better off calling it AOL Comics. At least people know what AOL is. I mean, they have Batman and Superman, and they don’t know what to do with them. That’s like being a porn star with the biggest dick and you can’t get it up. What the fuck?” (Paul Levitz, DC’s president and publisher, declined to comment for this story through a spokesperson.)
Fuck You Quesada
Apparently "Goombah" is deslang for Italians. I didn't know that, because of the far more famous Goombas
>>89734687
Given how long it'll be until you get there, with all the spin-offs, it's possible the Inhumans push will be over by the time you get to that era, and you can laugh at it like how we laugh at the Clone Saga.
>>89734696
Ackchyually it started in the 90's, in Fall from Grace.
Ben, why would you light a SECOND smoke right in front of the guy who literally ripped the first one out of your mouth?
Ben, seriously, let it go.
>>89734820
>Given how long it'll be until you get there, with all the spin-offs, it's possible the Inhumans push will be over by the time you get to that era, and you can laugh at it like how we laugh at the Clone Saga.
Kek
And now you know how Matt's identity started being public knowledge. Junior here couldn't keep his mouth shut.
>>89734834
There's always been stories where the hero's identity gets almost revealed, but in this run, it's a big public thing that never really gets undone until Soule. At best we have early Waid where it's ust not news anymore, since he isn't publicly admitting it.
>>89734780
I miss the days where they were just vaguely cheeky about it.
One of my favorite bits was "What if various characters were the opposite genders."
It went as you'd expect, until the get to Wonder Man, where there's just a picture saying "Our distinguished competition has requested us to stop this joke now."
>>89734893
It could happen!
I don't know why, but this spread isn't formatted like a spread, and I can't be bothered to photoshop it right now.
It's not like the first page has a lot you'd need to see the other page for to get, after all.
>>89734967
I guess. That shit is longStill got do
Conway Version
Ultimate Clone
2010 directors cut
And Ben Reilly Epic
Oh wait, it's happening AGAIN.
>"What are you guys afraid of?"
>montage of Kingpin brutally murdering them all
>>89734994
I just fix 'em on Paint because I'm lazy like that.
This guy's got to have balls of fucking adamantium.
... X-Anon, you seem to know more about Daredevil's pre-Bendis history. Did he always abuse his son like this, or did Bendis make this up to make this plot make sense?
>>89735065
Usually I do too, but I can't be bothered. I'll check better next time.
And now we know how this nobody got Fisk's lieutenants to turn on him.
>"And if Daredevil, or some guy like him, screws with my territory, he isn't gonna be embroiled in some epic game of wits with me. He's going to wake up one morning and his liver will be gone with a note that says 'You don't mess with Mr. Silke and you don't mess with his guys.'"
Do these guys not know what escalation is? You try that shit, and suddenly Daredevil finds something else to do next time Frank comes to town.
Yes, yes, you already pulled that line.
>>89735020
If you want somewhere to go after that, consider Spider-Girl.
>>89735118
I think he did abuse him, yeah. Richard never had a good relationship with his father, opposing him constantly in one way or another.
And now to explain how the bounty got out without Kingpin knowing. It's as lame as you'd expect.
>>89735260
Yeah Spider-Girl is includedRIP MC2 PeterSince Storybro is doing slott run.
You know what, the arc ends in the next issue, and my buddy's still busy. Fuck it, six parts!
>>89735270
Huh, go figure.
>>89735293
What are you talking about, Spider-Dad is fine. He definitely didn't get off-screened by some shitty vampires in an attempt to give darkness to a character who was intentionally made to have none, that would be stupid.
I used to know a guy who'd do this "Salut!" thing every time we drank together. It got more annoying than you'd guess, especially when he did it with soda.
I get not wanting to dick around with superheroes thing this guy's going for, but does he genuinely not know that the Punisher tends to go after people who play that game?
>>89735381
Wait really.Supporting Characters:
Wes Westin (Apparent death)
Mary Jane Watson-Parker (Apparent death)
Peter Parker (Death)
"Croquet" is just stupid enough of a gimmick I'm surprised it isn't already in use.
"Shotgun" on the other hand, is just lame.
>>89735452
Preacher, don't spread your fanfiction, the family's fine.Seriously, fuck Spider-Verse. All he had to do was focus on the unique and different Spider-characters, but instead we got that shit.
>>89734423
I can hear D'Onofrio saying this.
He's a superhero, Ben. His night job is putting on a mask and beating people to a pulp. Of COURSE he has anger issues.
>>89735511
>Preacher, don't spread Slott fanfiction, the family's fine. Fixed
>>89735531
Or Roscoe Lee Browne.
>>89735541
I'm trying to pretend Spider-Verse never happened, Anon. Let me pretend!
Fuck it, my sister has a key to my apartment. I'm pulling this shit on her next time she walks in.
>>89735577
Same. https://youtu.be/yxKXsBKsmnw
Richie, how did you EXPECT her to take the news?
Remember how I described Vanessa earlier? Yeah, this turn came out of nowhere.
So did this.
>>89735624
I should play that again at some point, now that I know who all those characters ARE now.
>>89735647
>She was fearless and crazier than him. She was his queen, and God help anyone who dared to disrespect his queen
>>89734772
All of the suits are black in this illustration, though.
Do you think the prostitutes tried convincing him this was a fetish thing?
What kind of hitmen shoots at someone before confirming they're even there?!
>>89733612
dude is paying some woman to give him the milk —
7th panel is the face of a man who realized just how much he fucked things up.
Based on this page, I assume he's tried this shit before, and didn't learn a thing.
>>89735712
Apparently the Queen needs to pay for a cleaning lady.
>>89735727
I didn't even notice the heart. Fucking hell!
>"Daredevil. He's really the blind lawyer, you seen him on the TV. He's a blind lawyer named Matt Murdock."
DUN DUN DUN!
See you tomorrow, Anons, and we find out where things go from here.
>>89735700
The Game Made me a marvel Noir Fan.
Wew, looking at the Iron Fist thread, it looks like White Tiger will be included.
>yfw the include him for a Lung-Fu extravaganza but RIP him in Daredevil.
>>89735918
Thanks as always, dude.
>>89735948
Did they mention which one?
>>89735987
No, but if its the male Latino in the trailer (and the crew member ranting about Finn), it's gonna be Hector. So, as I assumed "Sons of the Tiger" is a past thing in this universe. Lets see if we get references.
>>89736094
And via the*
>>89736094
Sadly, the Sons of the Tiger are super obscure whereas White Tiger, or at least the superhero identity, is still around and was even in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon.
>>89736168
True. Man, if Marvel wanted to do a Kung-Fu cartoon, Sons would be the perfect property for that.
I assume we'll see Angela Del Toro soon, it's not as though she hasn't been name dropped. They might blend her and Alyana and make her related to Hector.
>>89734618
kek
>Trying to read old Iron Fist in the archive and catch up.
>It has popups and the images don't work
Dader: NOOOOOOO
>>89736242
>I assume we'll see Angela Del Toro soon
Guess it's a good thing we're doing this run. We can see Angela's introduction, as well as Hector's death.
>>89736276
I could do a Mega like X-Anon did, once I finish with this title.
>>89736359
Marvelix really is Bendisvengers
>make a Mega
Mfw, I'm a phone user. :( But, thank you, dear, sweet PMIFAnon.
>>89736359
Is there one one archive?
>>89737457
*only
>>89737426
If you have a computer, you can download it there, and transfer the files TO the phone. It's how I've been reading my older comics.
>>89732570
Reading after work.
Hello.
>>89732644
I really hope Fisk 180s this guy's head by the end of the issue.
>>89732780
Well, I'm sure this Plutarch quoting new guy will definitely have the long lasting appeal of the Kingpin.
That must be why he's getting the stealth mini spin off from CW2, instead of Fisk.
>>89733159
Yeah, but the added element of "lel, superheroes are dumb" really does move it into crapping on something territory.
>>89733171
>Bendis
>Adhering to even his own continuity
You ask too much, anon!
>>89733434
What's more, this woman seems a lot... Jewier than I'd expect of a Mrs. Nelson. But that might just be Bendis's tin ear for character voices and his own terminal Jewishness.
>>89733612
Speaking of characters with zero resemblance to themselves...
I'm pretty sure Richard "The Rose" Fisk was blond.
>>89733675
The 'Nuff Said issues were inspired by Larry Hama's silent issues of GI Joe, and Larry Hama was a much more enjoyable writer and editor than a lot of the guys that came after him.
>>89733707
Signs indeed don't count. The main crux of the challenge is that you needed to do no dialogue.
>>89733727
Maybe he was just doing some cocaine from off the paper?
>>89733814
>So that's not just an obscure 90's mutant I don't recognize, got it.
Well, given when this was written, it could maybe be a poorly detailed Morrison Emma? She was done up like a streetwalker.
>>89733835
>Do you really not keep a side-arm for protection in situations like this?
Who needs a side arm when you have a trusty jar of your own waste?
>>89733966
>>89734070
This is Marvel Knights! Costumes must be Gritty! Real! Of the now! Superheroes must be mocked for looking silly!
bamp
>>89732570
There's a Daredevil sale on Comixology right now - anons, is Love's Labor's Lost by O'Neil any good? Also, is the Miller/Janson collection any good? I don't normally read a lot of Daredevil, but I bought the Born Again trade on Comixology after season 2 of Daredevil, and loved it a lot. Are these two similar?
>>89734538
>Iyiyiyiyi
Bendis was paid to right that. Paid MONEY.
I am sickened.
>>89734722
He's a recurring antagonist in the late 80s/early 90s Spider-Man.
>>89734780
Fuck you Queseda should be a fucking billboard outside his fucking house.
>>89734834
Didn't it really start with Mike Murdoch, though?
When his identity was so obvious he invented a twin brother to maintain a secret id?
>>89747419
This
>>89735202
Or Spider-Man puts on the Black Suit.
Or they end up in a fight with someone they CAN'T cut the liver out of, because they have actual superpowers.
>>89748039
>tries cutting out Luke Cage's liver
>the knife breaks, and wakes him up
>>89747484
It wasn't that it was obvious, Spider-Man just outed him in front of Foggy and Karen, and he had to bullshit his way out of it.
>>89735460
Matt sniffing the shit out of everything is starting to get kinda creepy.
>>89735918
I'm honestly impatient for this moron to finally get shanked already.
Also, I eventually realized why I dislike him: He's basically the same stupid fucking storyline Bendis did with the Hood, just with less superpowers. Complete with a seeming complete lack of understanding of what the nature of the universe he's writing in.