Why the fuck is /co/ going gaga for this all of a sudden? I thought

i like the cute cat and dog designs

>>89723652
>you guys hated it, and now you love it all of a sudden, what gives

I've like it for years in a love hate kind of way. My guess would be that for one reason or another the amount of anons who like it has managed to exceed the amount who hate it. Or the ones who hate it just stopped trying. Either way the internet echo chamber effect makes it seem like more people like it than actually do.

Cute art and melodrama I get to observe and not have to be a part of. It's like Degrassi with more cats and less school shootings.

I only found out about this comic about 3 weeks ago. It's cute and entertaining with likeable and relatable characters.

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>>89723652

The author and their IRC is shilling it now, they're the ones creating the "general" and bumping it with images every time it would normally 404

The IRC for the comic isn't paying any bills so they're trying to promote it to get more furries into it so it makes more money

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>>89723652

I'm glad I didn't have to make this thread myself. For what it's worth I'm right there with ya anon. I can't really imagine how anyone outside of high school could really find any worth in this shit.

>>89723652
Remember when that weebshit show RWBY first came out? All the /co/ threads were just constantly laughing at and making fun of it. Then eventually fags who actually liked that show started moving into the threads. Same with this.

It's like that quote about how a group pretending to be idiots will eventually attract real idiots who think they're in good company. Except instead of pretending to be idiots it's just having threads about this weird furry comic.

>>89723801
The comic isn't even furry.

>>89723811
to be fair i remember reading this back when it started near my last year or so of high school so i guess it's kinda nostalgic in a weird way

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>>89723652
Are you one of the forum refugees? Are you the one of the anons who posts about how butthurt they still are about the old community? If so, we get it. I wasn't there, but I also read the BCW page, and I get it. Taeshi is a lolcow and can't run a community forum. It's better to make a thread for each page as it's released and discuss it /co/ style with suitcase occasionally coming in to shill. Where else are we gonna discuss webcomics? There's a niche of webcomic readers and all the posters for them are probably all the same group of people, and it's allowed to be discussed here. Yes, the art is crap, but we're all suckers for teen melodrama and cats suffering. Now don't make threads like this, the mods let us have one, this is gonna get deleted pretty soon.

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>>89723652
it really isent, the comic finally got some momentum going again for it after years of stagnation, but the only people who care the the same 40 fags circle jerking in the general shilled by the bipolar bitch and her draconic handler

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>>89723765
>likeable and relatable characters

This is one of the most poorly written dramafics I've ever read and you're seriously going to post that? Just because it's sad doesn't mean they're relatable or likable, I swear once the story actually gets rolling someone starts crying every other goddamn update, for anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about just read a few of the most recent pages, it's honestly the most ridiculous fucking shlock ever.

>>89723857

I also read it back in high school, but as my tastes matured even I realized this comic sucks. I'll tolerate a lot of lame shit out of nostalgia, but BCB kinda sails past my limits.

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>>89723877

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>>89723652
The characters are all shitty people so I await for their doom

>>89723913
daisy is fine

>>89723883
If you say so. Sill like them.

>>89723925
That's funny anon. Real funny.

>>89723967
her only flaw is insecurity

checkmate

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Why don't they wear pants? Seriously, why the fuck do some people wear full sets a clothes and some just wear an accessory of some sort the character designs look like they were drawn by a 2007 era furry/wolfaboo, fucking furthia high and concession concession is honestly the worst furshit webcomic I've ever read, I know you guys think BCB is bad but woah dude, someone needs to storytime that shit sometime gave its characters clothes

Synopsis?

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>>89723945

It's okay to like things that are shitty, anon. I still hold a certain fondness for Concession, but I'm damn sure not going to call it well-written.

>>89723786
>>89723801
is that why this shit has been going on?

>>89724009
Teen drama comedy with cats and dogs
>>89724018
ok. No this is not intended to be snarky

>>89724018
>I still hold a certain fondness for Concession

How?

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>>89724018
Don't talk about concession

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>>89724054
>Teen drama """""""comedy""""""" with cats and dogs

FIFY, shill.

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>>89723652

>>89724095
it's a comedy in that it's funny how bad the characters are

But what about twokinds

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>>89724055
>>89724068

It's just so fucking terrible and absurd that thinking back on it is a good way to make myself laugh and brighten my day.

Also the changes to the site's CSS to coincide with some of the weirder events was genuinely clever and something I wish more webcomics would do.

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>>89723652
>this
>concession
>furthia high
>twokinds

Do furries just have an inability to write good characters, stories, and drama? The only one objectively good furry webcomic is probably Lackadaisy, which could honestly get a pass on art alone in my book, and maybe Prequel but that's really pushing it, both on if it's a furry webcomic and if it's any good. Are there any actual good furry webcomics? I love anthros when they're done right, they can be so much more fun than just drawing regular people but fucking hell people can rarely ever get it right.

>>89724113
Then why do I still fucking hate all of them? Well written bad characters go like this, you hate the things they do but you still like them. Every single one of them is unbearable and poorly written. Quit with this fucking excuse

>>89724133
It's shit dude.

>>89724205

I've heard Endtown is good, but I can't confirm that personally because I hate the artstyle.

Poppy O'Possum is also pretty good, although it's dead ATM.

>>89724267
honestly because none of the characters develop very much if at all, at least from what i've read

>paulo gets a chapter where he's acknowledges that he's a dick and wants to be less of a dick
>next chapter has him being a big dick

this can be said for most of the main cast desu

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>>89724205
Taeshi doesn't consider herself furry, and furries have berated her for not drawing her characters more furry-like. But obviously Taeshi can't change her drawing style because she can barely draw at all. She didn't design characters to be furry. She made cartoon animal characters when she was like twelve and just kept rolling with it.

Can you point out some webcomics with better written melodrama? I have a problem.

>>89724267
David did nothing wrong.

>>89724346
>and furries have berated her for not drawing her characters more furry-like.

Haha what? They're not fuckable enough or something in the cutesy look?

>>89723913
same here, i'm just waiting for everything to go wrong for all of them

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>>89724267

>Well written bad characters go like this, you hate the things they do but you still like them.

What really makes a well written bad character work (in a comedy series) is the world round them. People like bad characters as long as they don't prevail; when the universe seems to continuously shit all over someone, it makes you root for them and potentially even identify with them on some level, even when they deserve it. Always Sunny is probably the best example of this.

If things are constantly going a bad character's way, it makes you hate them. It makes their world seem unfair and shitty, and kills any desire to immerse yourself into it.

>>89724002
>concession
it's been a while since i heard about it, i agree it's the worst webcomic i have read but i don't know if it is storytime worthy because it makes no sense

>>89724469
Indeed, but the BCB cast is chock full of mary sues who never learn a goddamn thing.

>>89724348
he just wants to see the world burn

>>89724524
it's too slow for them to learn anything

>>89723652
Fetish fags

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>>89723652
I've never read Bittersweet Candy Bowl before, but I've been following the updates posted here for the past few weeks because I wanna see Augustus fuck the suicidal chick

>>89723652
The people from the dead forums and the creators are pushing it. I know because I've seen people writing emoticons, they're clearly new.

>>89724133
It's on /trash/ because /co/ mods hate it, just like many other things.

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>>89724530

>>89723652
we all used to agree it was crappy but good and threads where short and few
now that tumblr runs this place, well its a furry comic about teenage drama.

I'm giving it a go but I'm a little disturbed by the fact that after about a hundred pages it hammers in that emo cat has an unhealthy fixation on ponytail cat, something I know from the recent threads has not resolved....1500 pages later.

>>89723652
Suitcase started coming to /co/ so /co/ is sweet for it now

>>89724029
Makes sense. The creators often utilize their IRC clubmates to spread their word and help with comic stuff

>>89724317
Endtown is GOOD
Poppy is also good (come back Morbi!!!)

>>89725309

Suitcase has always lurked and occasionally posted on /co/ though, his presence here is nothing new or special.

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>>89723652
It's a horrible webcomic (don't let the IRC shills fool you into thinking otherwise) and I hate all the characters and its cunt writers, but I keep reading it for some unknowable reason. I think I've gone stir-crazy because I haven't been able to shitpost about Poppy or Lackadaisy in 6 months since they're both dead as fuck and never get threads. I need help.

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We should all read Questionable Content and Dumbing of Age instead

>>89724892
We all do, Anon. We all do.

And then I wanna see Mike and Paulo cry about it.

>>89725524
Is blaming the IRC guys the new /co/ thing now?

>I need help.
Don't fool yourself.

>>89723652
zootopia made furries mainstream again

or something

someone post a link or the last panel to that doujin where the line "a cat is fine too" came from

>>89724317
While i like Poppy Opossum i dislike how much morbi shoves his lesbo fetish with each character

>>89725675
the IRC guys admitted that's what it was. This is being done to gain audience

>>89725862
I always knew those IRC guys were fiends. One of them has a piss fetish

>>89725687
I doubt Zootopia had any effect on the popularity of anthro entertainment in /co/

>>89723652
>Why the fuck is /co/ going gaga for this all of a sudden?
Because of the recent tryhard "death" thing. Even the "fans" admit the creator is desperate as shit because nobody cares about this webcomic and recent panels are a desperation move.

>>89723652
Some people like it, some don't. /co/ isn't one person. Personally I just read it for the same reason I read Dreaming of Utopia, to see where it goes. It's like playing Drakengard, everything is awful but you can't really turn away out of curiosity.

>>89723652
bronies getting tired of /mlp/?

>>89723988
she deserves it for being vapid

>>89726962
Oh fuck off, at leat our show is just cleam and stupid instead of tryng to be the vision of how a forever teenage gilr see the world working

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The reason why /co/ is going gaga all over this is because a main character just returned to the series after several years(9 months in story) of her absence. The drama as been slowly building up to explode at her inevitable return.

>>89723652
what the fuck "going gaga" even means? is this a forced meme?

>>89731331
It's a colloquialism...?

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The reason why it's good is because the simplistic style allows Taeshi to draw lots of art and keep the comic on time, while still allowing her to experiment with various techniques to express the same style. While I dislike when those techniques change, I still find it interesting.

Storywise the characters fit their tropes, but still manages to reverse those tropes on themselves. The tsundere gets eventually called on her violence, while the jerk with an heart of gold gets called on being a jerk and his flirting. The biggest flaw with this comic is that the characters don't seem to actually learn their own lessons and keep doing the same mistakes, which is all well for the drama.

I think the biggest point that sells this comic is the huge ammount of drawn art by the author on Candybooru and Extras, either as simple references, absurd amount of shipping, the babies that result from said shipping and entire AU comics where the characters get further developed(including the polygamy ending which you can see on the image).

Before you ask, i'm neither on the IRC(which I heard here that it's cancer) or the author(which are SJWs, but don't seem to be the vile kind of SJWs).

>>89731377
that means it doesn't mean anything?

>>89723913
Sue literally dindu nuffin

>>89731509
Sue is the best character.

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I stopped reading because the comic really became Degrassi. All the characters are vile and that's not entertaining, it's just excruciating

The main character/plot came back, so everyone's reading again.

>>89726361
What? We've been waiting to find out what happened for ages now, I don't think it was tryhard or out of place, and it was pretty heavily implied by the fact she was in the hospital the chapter before she left. This wasn't out of nowhere, dude.

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Why is a large portion of /co/ suddenly so adamantly against the idea that -anybody- could POSSIBLY like this comic? That, not only are people enjoying it, but don't seem to be ashamed of it.
And because its cartoon anthropomorphised animals, like Looney Tunes, anyone reading it must be deep, deep within the furry fandom.

Someone either makes a thread or repeatedly posts in the BCB "general" asking why and how anyone is enjoying this, and expecting them to explain themselves like "oh well its just light fluff haha" or "yeah its TOTALLY SHIT but guilty pleasure lol", because "shit, I'm a sucker for cute visuals and melodrama" just never seems to cut it.

I not upset in any way that people don't like it - thats expected - I'm just failing to understand this sudden anguish and mock-confusion over the fact people like this teen-drama with cats and dogs.

Its likely either autism or people feeling embarrassed that they're enjoying BCB when they check it out briefly and so they lash out

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>>89731779
We get a lot of vengeful people from the so-called "old forum days" of BCB ragging on either the comic or the creators every update-thread, I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of them since its known the creators visit /co/ often.

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>>89723652
>Why the fuck is /co/ going gaga for this all of a sudden?
Main character in the comic has finally returned, now a single thread is made every 2 days and modestly populated, hardly staining /co/'s archive at all.
Relax, m'man

>>89732041
Stop liking what I don't like syndrome?

>>89732162
Yeah. people complain about a BCB thread being created ONCE for each update. Meanwhile, there are entire GENERALS made for the sole purpose of shitting on one fandom or another.

>>89725862
>IRC
Ha. Trust me when I say that it's not the IRC kids pushing these threads. They're neurotically incapable of being more than hangers-on in them, and they're usually cussed out because of their autism.

The real answer is that when the story picked up again with huge developments, some random anon started creating regular threads with goofy gimmicks to gain attention, and /co/'s closet fans organically kept them alive. The content of the latest chapter seems to have attracted new readers along the way ("Why is this girl trying to kill herself?"). The creators have always been known to lurk /co/ and jump in every once in a while.

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>>89723652
It got better, like really good later on

Also, it is interesting to see how it evolved from a shitty sketchy 2006 cat comic into a professional web comic.

>>89724205
I mean, there's Housepets but it's not stellar, just passably good.

>>89723652

I've been on /co/ for probably +5 years now and didn't hear about this comic till last month or so. It's probably just being exposed to a lot of new people.

What I love about it personally are how expressive the faces are. It's something that in my own art needs improvement.

>>89725302
Emo cat likes daisy
Mike likes ponytail cat

you seem rather mixed up

She doesn't understand anatomy, or even proportions at all, but I think the characters are still cute and aesthetically pleasing regardless, so honestly no harm no foul

>>89723652
I've been on /co/ for a little longer than I've been reading BCB. I'm happy it has threads now because there hasn't been an optimal place to discuss it until now and the IRC is garbage.

It's cute, I want to see how the story ends, and the author has started doing some genuinely interesting things with the format that I enjoy.

>>89732092
>>89731779
I've never read the webcomic because I never heard of it and it was only brought to light with the recent death of a character thing. As an outsider looking in many people that actually read this have made the same remarks I stated in my OP post, even further breaking down the specific set of panels like "why is she posed like that when she has this particular wound?" and so on. I was even replied to by several viewers saying they know it's a desperation move and that viewership is low, also acknowledgement that the creator is batshit insane or the sorts.

>>89733773
Honestly, if everyone in BCB had more detailed or realistic anatomy, whether human or feline, it would look awful and uncanny. Its cute, plushy style is a big part of its appeal.
Check out fanart on the Booru to see why "better anatomy" doesn't suit the characters

>>89733856
This. I vastly prefer the cutesy style. When things start looking more realistic it gets weird/creepy

>>89733805
It's not a desperation move when it was foreshadowed three years ago? She didn't die, this was a clear flashback to what happened and we knew she was fine the while time. You don't know what the fuck you're posting about.

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>>89733773
>>89733856
>>89733965
yuckeroo

>>89733975
Look it's obvious you're a big fan of this but don't try to damage control for the creator, it's fine to accept something has faults. This isn't some fucking "all according to plan Jigsaw master plan" shit, I've seen the threads and the reader's reactions, I've looked through the comic, stop being butthurt.

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>>89733805
Her "death" happened like 4 years ago IRL (9 months in the comic), and we never saw what happened. It was a school morning, and the teacher announced "Lucy won't be at this school any more".
Half the chapter happening right now is a flashback, told after Lucy came back to the school.

>>89734045
Nice non-existent counter argument. You admitted don't read the comic, I'm not the one on an autistic damage control mission here.

>>89734045
You mean the complaints about this being told via flashback all these years later, instead of when it chronologically happened during the story?

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>>89734030
indeed

>>89734030
Dude, that's the older art from like 8 years ago.

>>89734144
>Never read the comic before the recent death part
Guess what, it's possible to check something out after hearing about it retard. Like hearing about Undertale and going to play it and realizing it's a massive pile of shit. You're obviously a stressed child that can't accept when an opposing party doesn't agree with your views, you need to grow up or go back to tumblr so your wittle feelings don't get hurt.

>>89724317
>I've heard Endtown is good, but I can't confirm that personally because I hate the artstyle.

Considering the current storyline I'd say it's VERY self-aware anthro; when the characters act in any regard as they animals they mutated to appear, it doesn't end well.

>>89734214
Yeah I know, the point is that when the characters are more detailed or proportioned "realistically", they don't look very good.

>>89734219
>before the recent death part
This is what indicated you didnt even start at the beginning of the chapter. Maybe you should go back to fifth grade and learn some reading comprehension skills before calling people retarded.

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>>89733378
>professional web comic

I wonder how strong the correlation is between people who use that term unironically and aspiring webcomic artists, is it 1:1?

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>>89734219
>I don't care about this comic I don't read
>Actually I just REALLY quickly read some bits so I'm 100% informed
>Did the same with OveratedTale
>Which was IRREDEEMABLE SHIT, BTW
>You're probably a kid >:J
>Go back to Tumblr, you triggered?
Not the anon you're replying to but this entire post shows you're either baiting or just a genuinely aggravated autist. That Undertale part also shows you get REALLY pissed when people like something you don't or don't get.

>>89734279
You're genuinely retarded and can't into reading comprehension.
I've never read the comic before the death part as in our time. After those panels were released and all the threads were spammed, I checked out the comic ITSELF and found it extremely boring. Another dumb tumblr shit that's so fucking retarded you have to spell literally everything out to them like a child. I would say take your own advice but it's best if a mouthbreathing retard like you stopped wasting resources and just kill yourself faggot.

>>89734383
It's getting to the point where your posts are 90% angry nonsense and 10% content

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Why is there drama in this topic? I get enough of that from the actual comic.

>>89734417
>Uh oh I can't provide a counterpoint
>y-y-y-you're dumb and makes no sense!
Kill yourself faggot. Retards like you shouldn't be allowed on the internet. Are you even old enough to browse here kid?

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>>89734359
Y'know, i've never given the term "Professional Webcomic Artist" much thought until your post, and now I'm wondering who is. What defines one of them as professional?

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>>89734483
This one is also 90% angry nonsense and 10% content, thats crazy.
>>89734418
I don't know, someone seems to not like the comic but isn't content with just that; WE need to all hate it, too.

>>89734487
There is a school of thought which considers being paid to perform an activity the only important measurement of professionalism.

It's not so much a school as a defensively held opinion, actually.

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>>89725868
>One of them has a piss fetish
You mean the creator of the fucking comic?

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>>89734508
>I don't know what this is but I want to shove my dick into every single one of those cats.

And that's why this is a global rule.

>>89734599
What are you going to do? Tell on me?

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>>89734575
> this is piss fetish

get on my level

>>89734532
Is that all you can say kid? You must be really upset.
>>>/t/umblr

>>89734616
Yes.

>>89734677
Nothin personell kid

>>89734711
Well that makes you a no good tattle tale.

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>>89734677
Apply yourself.

>>89734755
At least I'm not a doo doo head.

>>89734760
>>89734728
Nice samefag kid, you must be REALLY butthurt.
>inb4 shitty MSPaint edit
Saving you the trouble now newfag, just stop embarrassing yourself.

>>89734781
Yeah, well I'm rubber and you're glue and whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.

>>89734536
>Webcomic artists
>ever on a payroll for the comic
Real-talk, has this ever happened? Most just sell merch or ask for donations.

>>89734828
>>89734781
>>89734760
>>89734728
>>89734755
>>89734676
>>89734616
The viewers of Buttersweet everyone.

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>>89723652

Do you really gotta ask?

>>89734865
At least I'm not a doo doo head.

>>89734677
I'm different from the guy before. You've got about 4 people talking to you now. Anyway, threads not derailed yet so keep trying?
>>89734845
Not to my knowledge. Maybe porn ones where they're part of a company with multiple artists, like Mana World or Slipshine.
So yeah, so far the only professional webcomic artists are porn ones.

>>89734868
This...is not an accurate comparison...mostly

>>89734865
at least >>89734901 isn't a doody head like you.

>>89723754

Where do those of us who want cats AND school shootings go?

>>89734865
>3 people
I could swear it gets more viewers than that
>>89734868
>thinking the 500 pages of emotional turmoil is leading up to these damaged 16 year olds fugging
A bunch of the characters have fucked already anyway, but it was tasteful silhouettes or "The next day" skips.
Also the characters aren't even hot

>>89734865
Why are you such a doo doo head?

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>>89734938

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>>89734575
>"tough" girl cries a lot and is extremely sensitive

>>89734865
>Buttersweet
How much am I going to regret googling that on a scale of 1 to WHY

>>89734868
> the punchline I've seen for years was not in fact a reference to QuestionableContent

I've been living a lie

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I come to /co/ because you guys post sappy cute shit all the time. Last year someone made a BCB thread just like this one saying the comic is shit and the creators are terrible, so I read it to see how bad it was.

Now I can't stop. It's utter melodramatic shit and unironically can't get enough of it. Yes, I'm the cancer ruining this board and fuck you guys for introducing me to it.

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>>89723652
They got over half their kickstarter target in 3 days.
3 people paying $600 each for a comic, here's hoping one of them is more watersports.

>>89734575
Tae was requested to draw piss fetish art for Amaya in a stream and she seemed pretty uncomfortable with it
She did it but it was very vanilla

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>>89733856
>>89733965
It'd be neat seeing the whole cast in "too much detail" but that's more of a "once is enough" kind of thing.

I mean...you can always filter those threads if they bug you.

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>>89736092
>too much detail
Taeshi actually made a comic making fun of this.

>>89736677
Oh God....it burns. It fucking burns!

>>89734277
Luckily the creators very much agree and think the super-deformed style is a big improvement, based on their past comments.

The fanbase really complained when the characters started changing proportions but it paid off in the end.

>>89732041
People are self centered and think their personal tastes are the ultimate truth and that the world revolves around them.

>>89724992
>>89723786
>>89723801
>it's a conspiracy

Your posts are very believable, especially when one comes right after the other

In reality I noticed these threads around November when people were all "she's back" and remembered that I had seen this same comic four years ago being pushed. Back then the threads were whining about how much they hated this character or that character or about how the main character had disappeared from the plot. Someone was going on about how this cat was gay for that dog. I saved the link to the website but later lost it and forgot about it and didn't care because gay cats and dogs in highschool being sad didn't really seem like my thing at the time.

Four years later and it seems likable enough to read, so I'm reading it now.

remove furfags from /co/

>>89736677
jesus christ this nails 90% of furry artists' style
I've never understood why the overly detailed animal person look appealed to anyone. The point of animal characters is to either be cute or have fun with shapes and body language that anatomically hominid characters can't do (see lackadaisy for an example of both).

>>89737460
>Funny Animals are furries meme

Furries hate this series because it doesn't pander to them

>>89734045
That doesn't mean something is a fault just because you say it is. The comic has plenty of faults but that wasn't one of them

>>89737504
They want to fuck animals. That's why furries are so repulsive, they ultimately are just zoophiles. They want their characters to look like that

>>89737580
Can we not open this can of worms?

>>89737580
But they don't even look hot, just ugly.

>>89736677
>i've been criticized for having poor art skills so im gonna make a passive aggressive comic against all the haters!!
wow this person and their fans really are pathetic

>>89737777
It wasn't about art skills though, just them not looking furry enough. The art is equally shit either way.

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>>89737777
Wasted lucky quads

>>89737509
Suitcase complained in the BCB thread that they have difficulty getting new readers because it's too furry for normies and too normal for furries.

>>89737877
That's a major reason I read it though
I like anthro comics that don't give me a furry vibe like BCB and Endtown

>>89734938
Jack?

Because they brought back the dramawhore character, and people love drama.

Also because Suitcase got back to shilling it alongside some pals. They've always operated like this. It's the reason the "fans" don't respond to criticism or bait while every other general under the sun guarantees one (You) to any post like that.

So half earnest, bile fascination combined with a love of cute and safe from the kind of posters who discuss QC and DoA and half blatant shilling.

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>>89723652
Thank you. I thought it was weird as fuck that after nothing for years, there seems to be a general up every time I look. I guess a bunch of new people found out about it.

Maybe you can surf the BWW and see what other long runners might reemerge in relevance.

This thread is much too bitter and not enough sweet.

>>89738212
Personally I always wanted a place to talk about this comic that wasn't complete trash. I had never even been on /co/ before, I just joined in when I saw these threads.

>>89738260
That I'll give you. The forums must have been absolute dogshit from what I've heard and there are almost no places to talk about webcomics in general as it is.

I wanted to see if anyone really gave a shit when webcomics nation lost its domain but my threads just sank.

>>89732041
Because people desperately want some level of faith in their peers. They want to believe the people they discuss things with don't have standards so low that they give a comic this lazy and drawn out a pass. They want confirmation that these people understand that it isn't good, but also some understanding of what they find appealing in spite of its faults.

You didn't actually want an answer. You just wanted an excuse to be passive-aggressive.

>>89738200
>It's the reason the "fans" don't respond to criticism
A good portion of the BCB threads are fans bitching about the pacing, story lines and character motivations
>or bait
Yeah, nah. The threads are so fun because if you know the comic's memes, you can bait the fuck out of everybody. Outside of donator exclusive content dumps or Suitcase shamelessly shilling, the bait posts get the most replies and generate the most discussion.

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>>89738245
Here's some extra sweet, the results of MikexLucyxPaulo ending.

>>89738424
What are the requirements for being "good"?

>>89734487
>>89734359
Professional means they do it as a profession, you retards. Taeshi has stated she uses BCB as income so yes, she is a "professional" webcomic artist.

>>89731453
It's just a saying, dude.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/gaga

The only thing I know about this comic is that the creator had some crazy ass feud with the chick whodrew another webcomic about a fat chick banging a mickey mouse-like monkey character in the style of steamboat willy.
Of course this was years ago and I can't remember the details but I do remember that the salt was glorious.

>>89738498
Here's an easy one: not spinning your wheels for ten years.

BCB makes The Guiding Light look concise.

>>89734487
Anyone who designates themselves as "Professional [Blank]" is just trying to elevate themselves. If you're good at your craft, you don't need qualifiers.

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>>89738424
I've stuck to this thread the whole day and other than "stop liking what I don't like", I haven't had a good answer.
No, I wasn't being passive-aggressive, I wouldn't spend time typing out a comment that big and thorough just to be snide to strangers online. I wasn't trying to bait some (yous) or attempt to change minds by being snippy. I really was hoping for an honest answer.

Why is it so hard to just discuss things here and have decent conversation?

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>>89738424
>I only like things of quality and decency. So something I don't like is not quality or decent. I don't like this comic, because it must not be those, so no one else should like it, because why would anyone like anything that's not good, like the things I like.
The day you let the lost and damned of /co/ dictate what media you enjoy in your spare time is a very unfortunate one.

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>>89738424
>I don't like it
>I think its of low quality
>How DARE others enjoy it
>How dare they talk about it!
>Haven't they considered what I might feel about them talking about it?
>Why don't these anonymous strangers talk about media that the majority enjoy?
Jesus WEPT, people can't enjoy a simply comic without needing your approval? The approval of 4chan of all places?
And then you accuse the other guy of looking for a fight instead of wanting discussion, cause thats what you would probably do, right?

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>>89738707
I personally enjoy that its still going, theres been so much going on and character development that a single volume would've not been enough.
Apparently it might finish this year, which sucks. I've stuck with it since the cast started school, I want to see them finish it.

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>>89723883
You're not wrong, but I swear to god I could copy/paste your comment into an Endtown thread and start an entire shitshow

>>89739159
It won't finish this year. I love the comic but don't kid yourself. It ends this in comic year for the cast though, but that doesn't translate to real life.

>>89739159
Theyve been saying that for the past 3 years anon

>>89738961
>>89739074
Those sure are a lot of words I never said.
Even funnier that they're in direct contradiction to my point (that people understand that you can like things whether they're good or bad, but tend to want a reason).

Seriously, don't let your love of the comic blind you to the point that you view anything that isn't praise as "HURR DURR I HAET IS BAAAD WHY YOU LIKE."

>>89738885
Then I apologize for the accusation. I gave you an explanation for why people do that, though, so I'm not sure why you're acting like you still haven't gotten a straightforward answer.

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>>89738885
>I've stuck to this thread the whole day
>I wouldn't spend time typing out a comment that big and thorough just to be snide to strangers online.

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>>89723652
Goddamn that looks embarrassingly halfassed, I know Calarts and Tumblr has dragged the standards down, but c'mon, it's not illegal to put some effort into making it look like something that isn't the worst of DeviantArt that refuses to die.

>>89737777
*raises paw*´
people shouldnt criticize the furry community before trying it first

>>89740989
There's something to be said about simplistic designs. The ones for this comic aren't terribly good in that they're not easy to read and enticing (most characters look the same with differences amounting to color, expression and accessory), but this kind of simplicity isn't necessarily bad and the comic isn't anywhere near the bottom of the DeviantArt/Tumblr barrel. I mean, it has inks and colors, for starters.

>>89740595
But you're qualifying it as necessarily bad because you think it's bad. BCB has a ton of flaws, but for me the things I like about it outweigh the flaws. Therefore I don't think it's bad.

>>89724205
What about Blacksad?

>>89741071
This, t.b.h.

Trying the community is simply logical

>>89741396
Don't criticize pedophilia before trying it first either.

I stopped caring about this comic in my 3rd year of high school. By then, everything was over-dramatic, everyone was an ass to each other, and it was mind-numbing to read. The best I can liken it to is one of those old Teen Nick teenage drama serials.

>>89740989

Honest question. Exactly what kind of art style are some of you expecting/want?

>>89740989
It's cute, clean and simple. It's not high art but looking at it doesn't offend my eyes. There's far worse out there. To sum up the art:

Pros of Taeshi's artsyle
>aesthetically decent and clean
>great facial expressions
>pretty good coloring

Cons
>absolute shit anatomy and proportions
>shit perspective too
>character designs too similar sometimes and some stand out as being awkwardly different

Overall it's pretty serviceable as something that gets shat out three days a week.

>>89741429
>one activity harms others who have little to no control of the situation
>the other is merely unusual
>I will pretend they are on the same level

>>89741557
>not understanding the analogy is that you don't need to try something to understand what it's like
Just as you don't need to try pedophilia to understand that it's horrible, you don't need to try being a furry to understand that you don't like it.

>>89741575
>I will now pretend that I wasn't making sweeping assertions on the grounds of objectivity

>>89741653
>I will now pretend you were saying something you weren't because I have no real refutation for your argument

>>89731446
>and entire AU comics where the characters get further developed

Those makes me wonder how the fuck are they ever gonna end it when they have to. They already burned off most of the path ideas in AU comics.

>>89741981
I can't imagine any of the major AU stories actually happening in the comic honestly. They're all either too far in the future or wouldnt fit the tone. Except the LucyxPaulo stuff, but it's clear that's not happening (at least not in the fluffy way it's portrayed AU).

>>89741707
>I will now make a baseless claim to try and cover the fact that not only was my analogy recognized as inapplicable to the context of the previous discussion, but my smug response to its criticism was also moot

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>Not sure if this is bad or good art.

>>89742247
It's a meme.

this is the only bittersweet candybowl related thread on /co/ right now

hilarious

>>89741148
>But you're qualifying it as necessarily bad because you think it's bad.
Go ahead and quote me doing that.

Anon asked a question ("Why do people [distrust the idea anyone actually likes this/equate its success to furry fandom/want a detailed explanation of the appeal]"); I explained the point of view that leads to these things. I agree with the two common points of contention that I listed, but I never said that the comic is 100% factually, unarguably, irreparably bad. I think it's bad, and I can explain my point of view, but that doesn't mean I'm stating that this is an iron clad law of the universe.

You're taking an answer as an attack on the comic and its readers, m8. Take a step back, because fandom has a tendency to do this to people.

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>>89742579
Yeah the next page is in 17 hours, everybody's gonna wait for it before making another thread.

Have a proto-relationship chart.

>>89742579
>Existing thread dies a few hours after this thread shows up
>Make a "witty point" ignoring this

I want the shill squad to leave.

>>89742843
It usually hits the bump limit the next day after a page releases. It's definitely not for lack of discussion.

>>89742843
So you acknowledge that there was 1 (one) thread at the time, and it was deleted

but you complain regardless

I just want everyone not name mike and abbey to be happy

>>89743375
this guy

this guy knows what he's talking about

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>>89743375

>He doesn't like Mike

Shit taste

>>89743375
I REALLY fucking hope Abbey becomes an antagonist

>>89743537
>Liking a fag

>>89740989
>CalArts
>Tumblr
Taeshi's been doing this before Tumblr existed and before the CalArts meme

>>89743537
he's more fucked than lucy

>>89743537

I want to hold mikes hand.

>>89742682
>They want confirmation that these people understand that it isn't good, but also some understanding of what they find appealing in spite of its faults.
>that people understand that you can like things whether they're good or bad
You're implying that BCB is objectively bad, and that things in general are objectively good or bad, and saying "sure it's okay to like it, but you have to acknowledge it's not good". No one has to acknowledge it's bad. No one has to acknowledge it's good either. You can try to backpedal on this and I can believe you don't really mean it, but it's still what you said. You worded it in a way you knew would cause people to react like that instead of approaching discussion in a more open manner.

>>89743933
...Are you fucking with me or something?

I explained the viewpoint. The first quote is me explaining that point of view. The people who ask "How can you like this?" want to have confirmation that the people they're talking to get that it's bad. That's the mindset. That doesn't mean the comic is objectively good or bad, it's how they see things because I'm explaining this shit.

The second quote isn't even ABOUT BCB. It's basic understanding of the difference between liking something and an assessment of quality. You can like things that you think are bad, and you can dislike things you think are good. That's not a hard concept to grasp, and I was saying that the people asking these questions most likely get that.

You seriously have to be fucking with me here if you think I ever said "BCB is BAD and you're WRONG if you don't agree with me!" I think it's bad, but there's nothing wrong with disagreeing about that. All I ever did was answer anon's question and defend the fact that I never made these sweeping generalizations that people are accusing me of. Like, you're playing the "no matter what you say I'm RIGHT!" card right now and shoving blame on me. I apologized for assuming
>>89732041
's intentions, can't you extend the olive branch as well instead of painting me as a shit-stirrer?

>>89743351
I always wanna call out Suit or Taeshi, but then I remember their close fans mimic their behavior, making it impossible to identify who's being a catty little bitch to boost their fragile ego.

It's cute, I'm invested, and I enjoy it. I don't see a problem.

>>89742739
I don't read this comic... is this real? Why would you make such complicated dynamics? How would you give time to each? how would you make each relationship itself actually engaging, instead of just "friends" or "ex"?

>>89745306
I have to applaud Taeshi and Suitcase for creating a comic that can trigger this level of autism from all sides.

>>89745311
Yeah, in good comics characters only have opinions on one or two other characters.

>>89745311
Tons of content, basically. The backlog is huge due to having updated daily or 3x a week for years, and lots of side-stories and Q+A sessions expand on secondary characters' relationships.

>>89745311
>is this real?
Yes.
>Why would you make such complicated dynamics?
Because when you make comics for over a decade straight without planning most of it, cheap drama and relationship clarification is the easiest way to keep people invested (see, most soaps, 80ss90s Spider-Man, etc)
>How would you give time to each?
Unless you're extremely talented, you don't.
>how would you make each relationship itself actually engaging, instead of just "friends" or "ex"?
Unless you're extremely talented, you don't.

>>89743895
Shut up S-Paulo

>>89745451
Wouldn't a comic that dedicated extended amounts of time to every relationship between every character become bloated and unfocused?

>>89745515
not BCB

>>89745390
I know this is sarcasm, but generally this is correct. Comics are inherently a difficult medium for pacing, so the best work tends to either have many simple character relations, a small group of characters with very well defined relations, or a combination of the two. Generally, you're unlikely to have a very strong sense for how one character feels about more than three others unless they're in a group/team or they're the protagonist.

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>>89745311
This one's a prototype for the third iteration of the relationship chart and it's the most complex one yet. Here is the second.

It evolves over the years so stuff like this gets naturally more complex, with some characters being dropped while others are added. Some of these are only hinted in panels, others get their own chapters and some are due to answers in the question blog.

>>89745569
BCB has been going on awhile, and a lot of these relationships aren't deeper than "Sue gets annoyed when talking to Paulo". It's probably good as a writer to know what the characters think about each other even if it's not that important to the story.

>>89745569
BCB aims to accurately portray social life as a teenager. As a result, people have roughly the same level of networks with others as they would in real life and there are many branches outward from given characters (more for central characters like scarf cat in the middle).

Not everything is at the forefront all the time; a lot of characters' opinions and feelings about other chars are developed quietly in the background or through extra content.

>>89745515
Yes, unless you were extremely talented.
>>89745557
I don't even think Taeshi believes that. That's like saying Hamlet isn't tragic.

>>89745652
Well that's nice, but my post wasn't about this comic. Just that anon was more right than they think.

>>89745656
Why do you post like an ad.

>>89745731
Because Suitcase or one of his minions has showed up to ruin our fun.

>>89745731
>>89745764
I've never even talked to Suitcase or Taeshi beyond one or two anonymous questions. I just read the comic.

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She also made a baby quiz, which revealed what the children of a lot of combos would look like.

https://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/quiz/

>>89745800
It's just a meme than Suitcase and the IRCfags are constantly shilling in these threads.