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Can someone explain to me why this shitty movie got such a huge

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Can someone explain to me why this shitty movie got such a huge fan following and pic related got an ungodly amount of porn?
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>>89673906
Fangirls have shit taste
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>>89673906
What movie is that?
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Tumblr
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I,too, want to understand the logic behind Tumblr's yaoi fanbase
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>>89674426
A lot of the time I can kind of see the reason, but not so much for a throwaway movie like this.
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>>89673906
He was an attractive bad boy. Nobody actually cares about the movie, though.
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>>89674415
>>89674426
>>89674446

What movie is that?
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>>89673906
He's cute and he's a bad boy. Doesn't really need anything more than that to get porn.
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>>89674457
The Lorax
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>>89673906
I was a weeb just getting into animated movies when it happened. I'll tell you.
Saw the movie with my female friend, we agreed onceler had a cute button nose, nice hair, and his guitar playing made him fuckable, we looked him up on tumblr to find quite an amount of fanart- seems they agreed.
more fanart was produced, and more people were curious about the film and went to see it, the character got so popular that people started saying they liked him to fit in, RP fanart blogs started, but eveyrone wanted to be original so you had all this "OC DONUT STEAL HIPSTER TIEDIE ONCELER garbage"
it soon became an unstoppable monster.

Honestly, the whole thing was kind of beautiful. it was the most cringy thing that I had seen at the time.
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Good characterisation. He's got a hot aesthetic.
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>>89674468
I think the question is the enormous volume of it, especially when there's other notable bad boys in better movies who got just as much general publicity
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dump onceler stuff
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>>89674506
The tumblr collective just made it insanely popular. Just like how that kevinxedd ship got infamous for a while because of a single tumblr artist.
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NONTHREATENING
ATTRACTIVE MALE
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>>89674639
what's this, did the warden from superjail! and the onceler switch glasses or something?
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>>89673906

It has porn?
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>>89674685
To elaborate on this:
SELF STARTER
CARES ABOUT HIS FAMILY
RICH
PLAYS ELECTRIC GUITAR
SINGS AND DANCES
BAD BOY
SNAPPY DRESSER
KNOWS HOW TO COOK AND KNIT
SMILES ALL THE TIME
GREAT HAIR
GREAT TEETH
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>>89674687
yes
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>>89674734
>le tumblr noses

why why WHY?!?
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>>89674701
It has more porn than you could possibly imagine of every fetish. I had an image dump of some of the worst but I can't remember where it is anymore sadly. Just look up oncest if you're brave.
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>>89674760
>asking why the tumblr once greatest husbando is drawn with a tumblr nose
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>>89673906
Thank God we didn't have to create /once/ like with the brownies.
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>>89674412
The Lorax
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>>89675402
Theres a board dedicated to brownies? Were they banned from /ck/ or something?
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>>89673906
it's practically a game/challenge to sexualize the most obscure/ugly guys they can on tumblr and pretend to be attracted to them

see: benedict cumberbath
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>>89675402
>implying the general would even last long when it was still popular

Unless Tumblr raided here, it would have bombed terribly.
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how bad me be
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>>89674426
The reasons are the same as /co/'s or anyone's fetishes: it is just something that appeals to you, and if you're a part of a group then you create hype within the group and that interest scatters.

Pic in OP looks really bland though.
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>>89674728
Even Turbo???
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>>89679547
Even Turbo.
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>>89679604
I don't understand why
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I guess power and hidden secrets are sexy on Tumblr? That's the only connection I can make between the characters that had unusually big followings there
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So the lorax wasn't just a complete shit film that happen to look good and use Dr. Success' name.
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>>89673906
/co/ once created a pretty elaborate fan fiction for sword in the stone in which some random-ass squirrel from one scene gets turned into a human and becomes Arthur's gf
Because people wanted to fuck that squirrel

What I'm saying is that none of this should surprise you
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>>89679982
Hey! That's different!

It's ok when we do it!
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>>89679982
>shitting on /co/'s squirrelfu
You monster.
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>>89679982
>>89680065
link?
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>>89679982
Yeah, we're fucked up, but it's nice to discuss varying types of "fucked up"-ness across the internet and how they work
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>>89679982
>What I'm saying is that none of this should surprise you
This. Motherfucking this. I hate the SJW tumblr shenanigans as the next anon, but some anons can get really "pot calling the kettle black" up to 11.

Teens, young adults, middle-aged men---we're all horny at some point and make up stuff to cater to that
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>>89680504
Mm.

Now, what we SHOULD be disgusted by is WHAT is being sexualized, rather than why.
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>>89674639
>>89674734
Character has stupid hat + suit + is an asshole = tumblr gold (even if the character doesn't really look like that but tumblr decides they do), that's the formula. There is no character who fits that formula or was made to fit it that didn't get a huge tumblr fangirl following. There's your answer.
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>Domestic
>Filthy rich
>Well dressed
>Musician
Chick magnet.iso
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>>89674701
Oh anon, everything has porn
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>>89680115
It's more that both /co/ and tumblr will fixate on some minor character strictly for the sake of fetishes and built up incredibly elaborate fetish shit for them including fanfic and fan art. But both sides will make fun of the other side for doing it although it's the same thing. There's no clear rhyme or reason. Why all the Creepy Suzie threads that pop up here to this day? She barely says anything and the Oblongs ended what 10-20 years ago? There are lots of other characters the Creepy Suzie thing could have happened to but it became a meme the way other random things make it to memehood and so did the Onceler for a little while.
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>>89674728
Wait,why Turbo?
I can understand logic behind those but why him?
He's not attractive ,he's not young,he's not effeminate.Why?
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>>89681139
It's probably just all about that one spider form that he took at the end of the film to do fetish stuff of.
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>>89673906

Onceler's Tumblr FotW legs were actually amazingly short. It seemed like it was all over in a few months at most. I expected him to go the distance a little more.
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>>89681435
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>>89681466
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>>89681435
>keeps seeing R63 of Totally Spies
goddammit
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>>89681490
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>>89681500
Hey, you're right.
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>>89681435

The Onceler fandom is actually experiencing a small resurgence in popularity due to How Bad Can I Be and Let it Grow becoming Youtube memes.
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>>89679982
>turned into a human
one of /co/'s shittiest ideas.
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>>89681435
its definitely still going, anon. its just not as huge as before
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>dorky and attractive with a BAD SIDE (tm)

It's like what happened to those skeletons in Undertale
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It wasn't a great movie, but the onceler is a pretty realistic villain character. He doesn't think what he's doing is wrong, even it if it's obvious to the audience.
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It wasn't even the fangirls that were weird about it, it was that the entire fandom dispensed with giving a fuck about literally anything else from the movie of anything to do with it. Usually there are at least two characters people are shipping even if they give a shit about nothing else, here it was just one guy they had to make two people out of him somehow before the shipping could even start.
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>>89679848
>sans
oh..
OOOOHHHH i get it now, what a fucking clusterfuck of shit.

its all about the villian, tragic and fragile nature of the character, also how powerfull it actually is.

basically women wants a man that can literally destroy their clits, but they want to turn him into a little baby they can threat like a cuck all they want.

jesus fucking christ.
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>>89681529
Almost forgot about Wheatley. Can't deny I liked the art from that fandom
>>89682159
Yeah, same with Sanstale, woops I mean Undertale. He used to be shipped with a weak paperbag replica of his brother and a self-insert goat woman, but nowadays it's mostly him x him in a different outfit
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>>89682343

I don't know. Let's look at some of the characters that were standout tumblr heartthrobs (outside of just fujobait shows with lots of men or yaoi shows where all the male characters are popular and the reason they are is obvious).

Onceler from The Lorax
Jack Frost from Rise of the Guardians
Hiccup from How to Train Your Dragon
Captain Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Carribean (yes this one was a long while ago)
The Warden from Superjail
Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls
Sans from Undertale
Loki from the MCU
Another old one is Prince Zuko from Avatar

I've heard of the Turbo thing here but never saw it myself so I'll leave that off for now.

I don't know if the patterns are that clear. With Jack Frost, he's this typically attractive character you just figure girls would like. Same with Hiccup and these characters are pretty generic and standard protagonists.

With Hiccup you get into another big common theme which is that the characters are "dorky" and "quirky." Fangirls see themselves as dorky and quirky and think they can identify. They seem relatable and approachable because they're shown as dorks. Benderick Cumberbumble's Sherlock is another example of a dork or nerd.

Often they are supposed to be funny and quippy characters. Spike from Buffy was before tumblr a breakout fangirl magnet.

But then, lots of the characters are morally ambiguous or amoral or outright villains so you get into "bad boy" territory. But that leaves out Sans, Jack Frost, and Hiccup and others who are clear good guys for their entire stories.

Lots have superpowers. But is that just about characters in general? See Elsa from Frozen, audiences like characters with cool powers.

One thing that is almost always true is the characters are skinny and are not muscular. Typically muscular guys do not seem to get the big followings of fangirls here. Super skinny twigs do. Only exception is Sans but he is also a skeleton. Is it because they seem too threatened or unrelatable?
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>>89674701
There's a pic by Prophet.
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I DON'T GET IT, HE'S NOT EVEN TEENAGE-GIRL CRUSH CUTE OR ANYTHING
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>>89682903

So looking at all of them, a few things stand out that make it more likely a character will get this kind of following.

1. He is nerdy or dorky, probably like the fangirls see themselves as. This might be the single most important one.
2. He is skinny. Or speaking of which Wheatley from Portal, who in the game is just a robot sphere thing, they turn him into a skinny British guy even though he's shaped like a ball, so he is never drawn as tubby. So he can be an object or animal that gets drawn as a skinny human guy.
3. He has funny lines/quips.
4. He looks "girly" and bishonen.
5. He is a bad guy or an anti-hero.
6. He has cool powers, bonus points if he's one of the most powerful characters in the game or whatever, even a god.
7. There are male characters he can be shipped with and maybe a few female. If not that, for some reason it becomes easy to ship him with other versions of himself. Or all these things.
8. There is some gentleman/genteel/classy bit like his clothes or accent or both (suits, British accents).
9. There is a sad sob backstory or you can give the character one to make them moe. Or bad things happen to them.
10. General quirkiness.
11. This is an obvious one for everyone but traits or scenes that can play into big sexual fetishes. Can you easily make them a submissive bottom to some other guy? Or do they have mind control powers or are sadistic and you can make them into a top in gay porn? Both?

That's all I can think of right now there are probably more.
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>>89673906
As someone who's been obsessed with this admittedly shitty movie for five years and counting, I can tell you that, at least in my case, it's because there was something really cool buried under all the garbage, and the garbage only makes me more interested in finding that which is cool.

I really like cartoons and musicals. I really like animated musicals. Most of my favorite musicals deal with grey morality and often have tragic heroes. This movie's interpretation of the Once-Ler is more of a tragic hero than the one in the animated short (though the book definitely followed a basic tragic structure), and he's made into a generic, likeable everyman to help sell it, like Seymour in Little Shop of Horrors. His entire tragic arc is shoved into a single three minute musical number, though, which is fucking nuts, given that they have a 90 minute movie to work with. It's insane to me that a Dr. Seuss movie had issues with being too rushed, as opposed to being too padded.

The look and sound of this movie is great. The Once-Ler, himself, is great. My only problem with the Once-Ler/Lorax portion of the movie is that the animals act too human and not animal enough.

The other portion of the movie has cool set design and great music, but it's totally disconnected from the movie's other portion and I don't understand the thought process behind it. And don't get me started on that dipshit from Illumination who said it was hard to adapt Lorax to a three act structure. There's literally a three act structure laid out for you in the fucking book.
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>>89677639
Nice image. I actually enjoy the Tumblr memes and culture aside from the SJW shit. It'd be nice if there was a Tumblr alternative for people with dissenting views.
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>>89682075
Exactly. Imagine an animated musical where THAT is our villain.
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fujoshis are weird, mang. It's best just to not question it.
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>>89683387
>As someone who's been obsessed with this admittedly shitty movie for five years and counting

so what tumblr user are you
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>>89683134
It's not about the looks, it's about the personality. On sites like /co/, the body is more important. Here they'll take a twig girl and make her thiccer because, why? Because that's what's important to them. On Tumblr, the personality is what they care about, and they will twist it until they get what they want. Screw the body. If the body is literally unfuckable, then they just give it a generic white boy body and call it a day
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>>89682903
Basically some combination of Dorky Quirky and Edgy.
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>>89683648
That's literally the exact same thing though.

/co/ - Sexy personality, shit body ==> Off model fanart
/tumblr/ - Sexy personality, shit body ==> Off model fanart

The archetype, and the execution of the archetype, is far more important here.
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>/co/
>same website who salivates over underage furry female characters
>ragging on people who at least ship an of-age human character

Really guys?
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>>89679982
haunts me to this day
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>>89683789
>ragging on people who at least ship an of-age human character
>WITH HIMSELF
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>>89683847
Anon we have a fucking board dedicated to girls with dicks. Anon we have a fucking global rule against loli porn because without it there would be no guarantee that the site wouldn't get shut down for hosting CP.

Tumblr ain't got shit on our degeneracy.
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>>89683847
>he wouldn't his own clone
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>>89683648
This whole post is so true
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>>89683847
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>>89674701
he's been shipped with himself, anon
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>>89684309
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>>89683749
>/co/ - Sexy personality, shit body ==> Off model fanart
>/tumblr/ - Sexy personality, shit body ==> Off model fanart

Yes I think the first happens more here than people realize. There is a lot of fanart that looks nothing at all like the female cartoon characters here, who could be a stick figure or something in the actual property. Instead it's very off-model fan art with huge boobs or hips that appeals to the fetishes of anons in the thread.
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>>89684577
Holy fucking shit
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>>89679982
>Arthur falls in love with a red head
Isn't that just F/SN?
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>>89683847
>WITH HIMSELF

You can switch Onceler before getting rich and after getting rich into the ideal urfujo pairing so easily. The uke will be a loser dork who is "just like me" and vulnerable with niche interests like playing the uklele or whatever the Onceler plays in the movie. The seme will have power and be a jerk or evil and not respect people's personal boundaries. In this movie the different outfits made it too easy to draw the line of where to split the characters and each outfit perfectly fit the ideal fujoshit seme and uke archetypes. So we got Oncler/Oncler by the boatloads.
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>>89674457
A Serbian Film
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>>89683599
This, remember how Osomatsu has a bizzare big fujo following?
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>>89683605
I've never been able to stay on Tumblr for too long. I can't stand their political views, which they often don't even see as political or views.
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>>89685316
>fujos like a show with a bunch of cute boys who get into wacky antics

It's not that bizarre.
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>>89685316
"cute boys doing cute things" not bizarre

see /u/ and "cute girls doing cute things"
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>>89674734
this art style is actually kind of neat
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>>89682903
so women like cucks, what i said.
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Can the Once-ler's whole story count as corruption fetish ?
Because it's a lot of what i'm seeing in the selfcest.
Maybe tumblr just is super into corruption ?
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>>89682029
>Tfw I liked Sans for what he was in the game itself
>Tfw the fanbase butchered him beyond repair
Fuck
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>>89685316
Does Mob Psycho have that kind of following?
Please tell me it doesn't
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>>89679982
The Onceler itself being fetishized isn't what's surprising. It's the sheer volume of it. It would be like if /co/ was totally consumed by those humanized squirrel threads for a few months.
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>>89686817
Then why do people on 4chan have so much trouble with them?
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>>89688750
Not really but there's fan of reigen
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>>89688750
It does. Though I'm not sure why people care so much. It's basically the equivalent of what happens with waifu characters though with seemingly more pinpointed characteristics.
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>>89689775
>>89689806
Getting mixed messages here. Guess the reason I care so much is because I've been a part of fandoms where certain characters get so horribly mangled and butchered it can ruin your perception of said character and make any reasonable discussion of their canon personalities impossible OR make you hate a character you once liked (This happened with Sans and Shadow for me and almost happened with Guzma, but the Pokemon fanbase thankfully didn't make him full woobie)

Also which character in Mob gets this treatment? Only Reigen?
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>>89689860
I don't see how people can allow characters to become "ruined" by other fans incorrect perceptions of them unless they just spend too much time within the fanbase itself. If you ever find yourself in such a position I would advise you actually take a step back and look at why you liked that character in the first place.

Allowing yourself to be controlled by other peoples interpretations only does a disservice to the franchises you enjoy.
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>>89690009
>I don't see how people can allow characters to become "ruined" by other fans incorrect perceptions of them unless they just spend too much time within the fanbase itself. If you ever find yourself in such a position I would advise you actually take a step back and look at why you liked that character in the first place.
Honestly that's some good advice.
I dunno, just makes it really hard to actually discuss the character or work without their misinterpretation of the character taking stage. Doesn't help when said wrong perception leaks out of the fanbase, like with Shadow

But you're right, I shouldn't let their interpretations ruin my enjoyment
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>>89690054
Yeah, I also get what you're saying with that feeling. If you actually want to discuss one of these types of characters you basically have to already know who you want to talk to or it could spiral into memes and fanfiction territory that just makes it hard to find people who also enjoy the character for who they are. Though these things never make me hate the character but rather certain fans who can't separate fiction from actuality (which is ironic because its technically all fiction).
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It screened when jason mraz was still big
>lanky
>wears a fedora before mlady shit became prevalent in the internet
>he sings
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I thought it looked nice, at least. Great colors.

Also she needs more art/
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>>89673906
Tumblr is a place of many odeas and interests, and ine of the major interests is yaoi.
With this, there's a handful of options. Two guys are friends, they're gay. Only one guy is single, the chick's in the way of their love. Two guys are enemies, they're anger-gay. Simple enough.
The problem comes from two sources - either there's not enough (usable) guys, or not enough human guys. Bill is a triangle, so to ship hin with Dipper, he's turned into a white guy in a suit. They provided the guy. Hiccup has no male potential interests, nor does Jack Frost, so they're shipped between dimensions. The onceler has no appealing males of any sort, the Lorax wouldn't be suitable. There's no decent universe to cross-ship him through. The only way is to make AUs and that led to a boom of ideas. This onceler is hotter, no that one, no both combined. So many oncelers, so much shipping. It's what yaoi fan girls love most.
A similar thing happened to Sans because his brother is a "precious cinnamon roll, too pure" and many avoided fontcest as a result. Th is led to a bunch of AU Sanss being made, and then because your alt-sibling isn't your sibling, twice the au shipping. The moral is have two potential gays lying around or shit will go down.
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Women find personality and actions more arousing than bodytype

also,
>board obsessed with personified television channels talking shit about anyones weird preferences
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>>89690550
>more arousing than bodytype
but tumblr loves skinny feminine guys.
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>>89690659
and some like big fat bears
personality and actions are still #1, just like in real life
that's why ugly men haven't been bred out of the genepool yet
that and rape but i guess that falls under the definition of "action"
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I've never watched the movie until now. CN broadcasted it half an hour ago in my country. It was good, not much from that.

>and pic related got an ungodly amount of porn
>First thing comes up to mind are gay encounters with the Lorax
Fuck you, Internet. You did this to me.
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>>89679982
She's better as a squirrel to be honest.
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>>89673906
>and pic related got an ungodly amount of porn?
How bad could it be?
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>>89682343
Sans isn't really a villain.
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I liked the "how bad" song and the red head, thats it
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>>89683431
You could just follow the funnymen and shitposters.
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>>89685316
I mean they kind of do it in the show sometimes so they probably expected/wanted to make fun of it.
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I think I heard (and maybe saw?) that they shipped the Onceler with inanimate objects he had around him.
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>>89688844
It was once, though they were squirrels and they weren't even humanized.
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>>89688683
>the fanbase butchered him
No shit. Only the bones remain.
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>>89690178
That's why I was asking if Mob Psycho had that kind of fanbase, because I'd hate to see Mob and Reigen and co get boiled down to shitty stereotypes
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>>89674484
>good characterization
>is constantly egged on by his family, completely nullifying his purpose in the original story
>transformation in to an asshole is completely glossed over in one musical number
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>>89691699
Yeah, I don't see the point of the Once-ler in the newer Lorax. Big corporations that ruin the environment actually didn't mean it? We should be sympathetic to those who cut down trees and shit? I wouldn't be surprised, considering how much sponsored shilling they had the Lorax do in commercials.
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>>89673906
Snazzy outfit skinny guy.
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>>89691037
They always get political, always.
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>>89690913
Sans isn't a villain at all. He's actually less villainous than Papyrus.
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>>89691822
Dude, are you insulting the movie's main redeeming feature? That's lame. I think the Once-Ler being sympathetic is a good thing and I don't see why anyone would disagree. It says "this could be you."
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>>89674703
The skinny ass guitarist aesthetic never gets old. Add hats.
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>>89677621
That's largely charisma and charm. Guys on /co do the same thing in obscure waifu and why boner threads on here.
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>>89688750
Mob Psycho has a large fujo fanbase. While it was airing, the Mob threads on /a/ were taken completely over by them. Even now, Tumblr and Pinterest are full of gay fanart.
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>>89689860
I would say that there's too much glorification of Reigan. People act like he's a fucking saint or something.
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>>89682343

Sans isn't a villian.
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>>89689860
>>89690054

>letting a fandom stop you from enjoying things

you deserve it
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>>89682343
Don't guys fetishize female characters in the same way, though? I agree some of the specific choices are odd, like Turbo, but a lot of the others are pretty easy to understand the psychology behind. A lot of time it's also a 'but he can change if he's loved' thing women have always struggled with.
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>>89688844
The thing about Tumblr is that the way the site functions creates much more powerful and niche echo chambers full of threads that never die.
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>>89692553
What is the female equivalent of the "fabulous tragic bad boy" archetype? What personality type in a female character lights a fire in the male fanbase?
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>>89692722
Azula?
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>>89691665
That, and psychic jelly dicks, and heart-shaped G-spots according to smut.
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>>89679982
Any links
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>>89692389
Ah,okay. That's not *too* bad.
>>89692344
What's the most popular pairing? I assume it's Mob and Teruki,right?
>>89692817
Man, the Undertale porn started to get really fucking weird past a certain point
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>>89693015
It was the child of the Homestuck Fandom. Of course it got weird.
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>>89688394
I think that makes sense. I get the turn on. Also redemption arcs are always a weakness for most women.

It's just funny because it's just a stand out character who stole the spotlight from a cheesy Dr. Seuss character in a mediocre movie with a very simple ecological allegory.

>>89690009
>>89690054
I'm constantly having to take a big step back from Gorillaz fandom for this reason. I like some of the porn but people try to romanticize Murdoc's abusive behavior toward 2D. Same thing with people who romanticize Ramsay x Theon from ASOIAF/Game of Thrones.

How fucked are you in real life when you can't tell the difference between abuse/torture fetishes and loving relationships? Tumblr girls creep me right the fuck out when they take it to that level.

I guess >>89682903 can add Murdoc and Ramsay Bolton to the list.

I'm just into Murdoc because he's entertaining and there aren't enough decent monster husbandos out there. The long tongue and hip thrusting speaks for it's self, too, right? But there are fangirls who say they want Murdoc to be their daddy and I don't even want to look too long into that abyss.
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>>89683387
So a real case of great character and aesthetic wasted which jut appeals to people who root for the underdog. I get that.
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>>89692722
>>89692752

Check "Reformed Villainous Vixen."

Also, Rich Bitch characters like Pacifica from Gravity Falls.
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>>89693101
It's not so much romanticism as it is denial. They want their yaoi and hell if abuse is gonna get in the way of that.
As for people seeing abuse as good, I'm not surprised. It's been pointed out to death how Fifty Shades is fully abusive and not actually BDSM and how if the guy weren't rich and/or handsome it'd be creepy and unromantic. Despite all this a lot of women were swooning at the idea of their own Rape BDSM husbandu.
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>>89691699
I said "good", not "completely faithful to the book".
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>>89679982
I didn't remember the original cartoon, and the fanart was so good that I had no idea that thread was pure fandom wank. Holy shit. lol It was quality, you got to hand that to them.
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>>89692752

Are you fucking kidding me?
"Mean girls" have fucktons of fanboys, Azula from AtlA is one obvious one, years ago tons of threads were

>tfw you want Azula to dominate you
>tfw you want Azula to dominate Ty Lee
>tfw Evil Dominatrix Azula is sexy

Today you have Lord Dominator and Deathstar shippers (Dominator/Wander) you think that isn't the same goddamn thing?

Studies always show that getting sexually dominated is a #1 fetish for both females AND MALES. Maybe it's a lazy fetish where the other person does everything to get you off in your imagination, but it's not just one gender it's clearly both. Yes some people fetishize the tables getting turned and the "bully girl" or "abusive girl" or "mean girl" gets dominated but some fangirls do the same with the "bad boy" so it's not a guy vs. girl thing it just is extremely common. Fuck Female Draco Malfoy has fans here who post the small number of 63 Draco pictures that exist. It's universal.
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>>89693479
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>>89693292
Abuse and torture have always been genres in yaoi just as it is in straight smut. That is not the issue, there is no denial... instead there is glorification and romanticization of the violence of the relationships. The worst is when fans go full moe with that shit. I wish I'd saved an example but it creeps me out too much. 'Thramsay' tag is full of it.

I have violent fetishes and fantasies myself... it doesn't change the fact that a character like Ramsay Bolton is not cute and sweet.
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>>89693660
She's real now, anons!
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all these complex explanations there's only one thing you need to know: white girls is crazy .
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>>89693015
Definitly ReiMob, from what I've seen. RitShou is very popular too.
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>>89693726
It totally depends on whether most people realize it's just pornography and fetish shit or not. 4chan should know.
Most people know that just because a girl with a giant futa cock fucking you until you are literally split into two or three pieces with gore everywhere might be nice on /d/ but in real life it would be horrible and a tragedy. A tiny crazy minority does not realize that fetishes in stupid internet porn would be shit and terrifying in real life. But that's a minority. Most people do have some idea of what's stupid and the difference between goofy porn boards and real life though. If you don't know the difference between fantasy and real life you are already very mentally ill, same thing with people who kill shit in video games and start to think they should kill people, they shouldn't be allowed to play video games even kids' games where you jump on shit to kill it, because they're certifiably clinically insane and clinically insane people should not be allowed to browse /d/ or /h/ or anything else on this board because they're insane and will do horrible things to real people, because their brains are severely defective.
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>>89693898
>Reimob
>Ritshou
But why? I would think that Teruki/Mob or fuck, Rit/Mob would be more popular. But Reimob? God fucking dammit just when you think you understand fandoms
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Why are there Jasperfags?
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>>89693973
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>>89693973
>Strong agressive woman who could kick your ass and likely tops in sex but also has a semi-tragic backstory that makes her redeemable
Gee I wonder why
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>>89693825

diana from little witch academia is obviously intentionally 63 draco

that means men in japan get off to draco as a girl too you know

enough to fund making her real
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>>89693825
>>89694059

>Harry Potter fans invented bitchy ojousamas
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>>89694059
Occurred to me the moment I first saw the character. Makes you realize how close we really are at heart.
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>>89693479
>>89693593

It's just the sexual fetishes speaking, these "mean girls" turn out to be lonely girls who don't know how to communicate their feelings.
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>>89692722
>What personality type in a female character lights a fire in the male fanbase?
1. Traditionally feminine optimistic girls next door.
2. Manic pixies.
3. Hatefuck material.
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>>89693973
I fucking hate this show's character designs so much
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>>89694325
That tends to be how fujos romanticize their villain and mean guy crushes as well, anon. Fucking Snape, man.
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What I wanna know is, when do we adapt this and selfcest the best /co/ waifus?
Closest I can think of is Violet×Helen art, since they're both made to be the same thicc slutt.
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>>89694510
As a Pokemon fan, this is exactly what happened to N, and Gladion I think, but oddly not Guzma
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>>89694514
They need to be characters who undergo a transformation or corruption of some sort in their cannon arc so that you can pair the before and after. Otherwise it's just boring.
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>>89690467
>The problem comes from two sources - either there's not enough (usable) guys, or not enough human guys. Bill is a triangle, so to ship hin with Dipper, he's turned into a white guy in a suit. They provided the guy.
S

Sums up what happened pretty well.
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>>89694436
Really? I am not a big fan of SU but I admire how they balanced out "distinctive" and "cheap to draw" in their character designs. I think a lot of cartoons, and especially anime, get this wrong producing elaborately decorated but visually samey characters.
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>>89694710
I agree, even though I'm not a fan. It's effective even though it does not appeal to me.
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>>89694710
Just because they have variety doesnt mean they arent fucking ugly as shit
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>>89677578
Everyone started saying they wanted to fuck the brownies and carved donut holes in them to prove it.
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>>89694130
Diana's not just a "bitchy oujosama" anon she's the snobby blonde rival at a wizard school of a scrappy brunette hero it's impossible not to see the comparison.
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>>89694780
Except Diana has redeeming features while Draco is a huge snobbish cunt for several books.
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>>89692722
>What is the female equivalent of the "fabulous tragic bad boy" archetype? What personality type in a female character lights a fire in the male fanbase?
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>>89694780
Agreed. The creators being Potter universe fans is pretty obvious.

Main character girl is Just as fuck, tho.
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>>89694827
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>>89694514

XJ9. Just have it be accidentally activated one day, with her mom explaining that it was supposed to be a backup in case the original got destroyed.
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>>89694827
>>89694875
Oh, you mean the type "Girls who did literally nothing wrong?"
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>>89694765
It isn't just the variety. I agree that the designs aren't especially pretty, but just about every one of them feels complete (not much you'd want to add or remove) and reinforces the character's personality.
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>>89674760
>le
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>>89694827
This is my favorite archetype for both female and male characters.
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>>89693237
>Also, Rich Bitch characters like Pacifica from Gravity Falls.

Pacifica is literally the Gravity Falls male fandom equivalent of Gravity Falls female fandom Bill in every way. Bill gets made a skinny white guy while Pacifica is given huge cowtits, because that yanks the fans cranks. Both get turned into abusively sexy blondes who dominate one of the identical twins in bed depending on whether the fan wants a straight or lesbo/gay pairing decides which twin it is. In fanfiction it even became normalized that both twins need a sexy abusive blonde to dominate them in bed.
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>>89695033
You mean Best Character archetype?
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>>89694514
>What I wanna know is, when do we adapt this and selfcest the best /co/ waifus?

Just use time travel or magic.

Actually /co/, give me one good goddamn reason there is not way the fuck more Ice Queen Elsa x Innocent Princess Elsa in the same fucking vein as Greedy Onceler x Naive Onceler than there already is.

One good fucking reason, /co/.

You disgust me.
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>>89695436
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>>89695487
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>>89695515
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>>89695548
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>>89694963
Fuck you, Homu did everything wrong.
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>>89679982
>random-ass squirrel from one scene
Nigga if you saw the movie as a kid you'd fall in love too
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>>89679982
http://the-conservatory.wikia.com/wiki/Hazel
okay, this was a lot more in-depth than I remembered.

I'd love to see more.
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>>89695271
My nigga

The undoing of so much of his character development by Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus's half assed story mode kills me.
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>>89696106
Testament isn't even in Xrd, is he?

>tfw best boy got best girl
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>>89695924
Oh nonsense. No one could have done any better than her in her situation. She's amazing. 10/10 Magic Girl. Would worship the Devil.
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>>89695924
>Fuck you, Homu did everything wrong.

I know this is /a/ spillover but you shut your goddamn mouth
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>>89696258
>>89696225
No, fuck you both. homu a shit. Go fuck yourselves.
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>>89696151
I like Ky a lot, so trolling me with this pairing isn't going to work.

I'm more bothered that Testament's characterization went to shit over it. In the past he trusted Dizzy to the pirates because it was what she wanted, and he respected Ky despite being enemies, and Ky had clearly been on Testament and Dizzy's side at the end of X2. There was no reason for Tes to be throwing a shit fit over his little girl falling in love with the best possible guy. I never saw Testament as a sexual pairing with Dizzy... he was like an over protective father or big brother, if anything.

His character got the opposite of closure, and now I worry the creators just don't know what to do with him and he'll be relegated to an eventual unlock-able with no story mode purely for novelty like Cliff and Justice had become.
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>>89696436
I wasn't trolling you ya god damn sensitive moron I was just saying something about Dizzy and ky. And asking if testament was in xrd. You over sensitive pussy.
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>>89696465
>tfw best boy got best girl

In response to people calling Testament best character. That's pretty common bait.

How is it over sensitive to respond with character discussion because I'm happy to run into fellow fans of a niche game? You've gotta know he's not in xrd. Google could tell you that.
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>>89696302
>homu a shit
I'm with this anon. Homura did exactly what I would've done, and I'll never forgive such weakness. Madoka deserves better.
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>>89697345
>not wanting homu to abuse mado
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>>89697942
She would never do that.
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...so anyway, in conclusion...

The Lorax CG edition was a shit movie.
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>>89698144
fuck off it was decent

not all too faithful to the book but. decent
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>>89674701

First day on the internet? Oh the sights you'll see,
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>>89694678
Sometimes though you get the good triangle stuff.
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>That shitty tacked on feel good everything is okay happy ending

yeah fuck this whole movie. I shouldn't be surprised but the original story worked because of how bitter and depressing the ending was.
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>>89686817
>effeminate=cuck
wew
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>>89683789
>>89683901
Our degeneracy has style,fuck off normie.
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>>89690790
You're so full of shit ,lad.
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>>89692465
I bet you're one of those overzelous fans that people are describing
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>>89695101
Every. Day.
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>>89679982
Shoul've been an anthrophormisation of the squirrel desu
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>>89700599

Sorry anon, but not everyone is as easily influenced as you are. Some people can enjoy things without letting random strangers on the internet affect their lives.
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>>89679547
ESPECIALLY Turbo.
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>>89698144
As an /o/tist, I love Mazda's engineering and design philosophy, as well as their approach to marketing. Except this. This was an ill-advised move.
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>>89682075
I agree. Hell, if the movie just focused on him like the original it would've been much better.
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>>89673906
Because the main character is a hipster-looking douchebag that was designed to make 14-year olds ginies tingle. And when 'ginies tingle, they make money.
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>>89693237
If you don't pick Lifelong Warrior Friend and use Elven Time Mage to find a cure before his disease gets the better of him, you're a fucking loser.
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>>89682343
Actually, it's "on sale" logic

Villains are sexy but unattainable

Tragic anti-heroes are sexy but holy shit they're on a 75% off sale, grab them while you can, this spicy swaggering asshole has low self-esteem but still shits on people impressively, I can get him to put a ring on it if I play nurse with him, I can get my foot in the door!
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>>89703122
What about the popular ones that are just straight up villains?
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>>89703239
The power of imagination can give even Genghis Khan a sad backstory
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>>89690467
Yaoi just doesn't appeal to me as a gril as the men involved are way too feminized.

Interestingly, it's not entirely uncommon for girls who are really into yaoi shipping to later come out as bi/gay. Het shippers tend to be het.
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>>89703239
Those villains are still presented in a tragic light. That way the "I can change him" mentality can take over
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>>89688750
Do you live under a rock or do I follow a bunch of really depraved Japanese/western artist on Twitter?
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>>89693969
Tumblr loves to think they're on the moral high ground all the time, but actually there are more shotafags than lolifags out there than you can imagine and they're all hiding on Twitter usually.
As for Japan. They love little Mob's pudgy face and thighs in the Anime. And recently we got a prototype for a dakimakura of him showing a bit of navel. Also in the mobage he gets some fanservise on the costumes.
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>>89673906
So can someone please explain how the "shipping him with himself" thing worked?
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>>89704312
The shotafags and the moral highground folks are usually two very different sects on tumblr. There's this trend of 'fiction is reality, if you take interest in a fictional relationship that's not 100% healthy you are literally an abuser' and those people would shun any other user that liked shota. There are plenty of other people on there going 'shut the hell up you delusional cunts.'
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>>89704380
It's fiction so they don't even need to make up an excuse or reason. They just go 'hey this version is hot and so is this one so I'm going to draw them porking each other.'
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>>89704207
I only watched the show around a week or 2 ago and haven't really touched the fanbase side of things
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Because Tumblrtard fujoshits
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>>89674455

Who said he was bad?
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>>89688750
>Please tell me it doesn't
What's so wrong with it?

>>89693015
>What's the most popular pairing? I assume it's Mob and Teruki,right?
In the /a/ threads, it was Ritsumob. It's mine too.

>>89704312
The Tumblr that likes shota is vastly different from the SJW Tumblrites. In fact, the SJWs regularly try to ban anyone who posts or draws shota/loli. One time, they even e-mailed a shota artist's drawings to their boss at work, causing them to get fired.

>And recently we got a prototype for a dakimakura of him showing a bit of navel
I want it so badly.
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>>89708033
>What's so wrong with it?
Really the age difference and the fact that their relationship is more mentor/pupil than romantic. Don't get me wrong, I like how close they are, in fact that's one of the best parts of the show to me, but having it be romantic just feels weird
>In the /a/ threads, it was Ritsumob. It's mine too.
That's what I expected it to be in general.
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>>89685316
That's hardly surprising. Even Doraemon (show) has a fujoshi following
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>>89685316
>Bizarre

It's literally "cute" boys doing crazy shit, being assholes and with drama, comedy and great seiyuus to voice them.

The anime shouldn't have been as fucking popular as it is now, but here we are.

SEASON 2 WHEN?
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>>89693660
>>89693825
If only Malfoy was like this in the books. Malfoy was too much of a bully though, while Diana is just focused on being better to the point of being callous (but softens her ways later).

Malfoy never got a chance to be friends with Potter. Diana fulfills the trope in anime where your rival will become your best friend real soon.
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>>89685316
isn't osomatsu nowadays the mlp/bornies of anime? I'm seeing japs on twitter avoiding them like a plague
thank god it's over
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>>89695101
>Pacifica is literally the Gravity Falls male fandom equivalent of Gravity Falls female fandom Bill in every way
Never realized how true this is
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>>89708033
>One time, they even e-mailed a shota artist's drawings to their boss at work, causing them to get fired.
What the fuck tumblr
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>>89712139
>isn't osomatsu nowadays the mlp/bornies of anime?
I thought it's the titans show
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>>89674455
>He was an attractive bad boy
>attractive

Go see an ophthalmologist.
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Fy
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>>89681139
>>89681251
There's a pretty big vore fandom on tumblr, that's why.
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I just find it weird that this one character has a fandom instead of the movie or book itself. I've even seen people make "Onceler OCs", not Lorax OCs or Dr. Seuss OCs. Onceler OCs.

Take any other series and say you're going to make "Character OC" instead of "Series OC". Shit somehow takes the dumb concept of making an OC and makes it even dumber.
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>>89712255
That and how they loove to call all those artists "LITERAL CHILD ABUSERS" and pedophiles and try to report them to the police over shitty animu drawings as if it was actual cp.
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>>89713176
now everything makes sense
and by sense I mean, I'm glad I stopped using tumblr years ago and I didn't get to see any of that
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>>89712978
You know what's attractive to Tumblr standards right? Like on the cartoon side of it, not the animu. They love Double D for a reason and most of it is from shippy fanatics accentuating how dorky and nerdy he is.
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>>89713369
Too late. I know Pixiv's dark corners.

Just mentioning to the anon that even a timeless kid's show will have a fujoshi following. It's like standard protocol.
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>>89713665
*fanfics
Also fanart
Damn you candyacid
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>>89713687
I love how they draw frollo and mutilate him into this white haired bishonen without an ounce of shame.
And also classic Disney mascots shipping
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>>89695603
>>89695548
>>89695515
>>89695487
>>89695436

/frz/?
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B
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>>89673906
Fangirls are weird, news at 11.
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You know how people start waifuing minor or background characters and start making autistic circlejerks about them here? It was basically that.
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>>89692722
Goth chick from what I've seen
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>>89712028
I think Diana is a sort of fan wish fulfillment thing because Draco fans tend to justify their fandom with a headcanon focused on how Draco really wanted to be friends with Harry at the start and felt spurned and jealous and just didn't know how to deal with such feelings in healthy ways because of his asshole Death Eater parents.
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>>89713845
>look up frollo

Ok. What. The. Fuck.

And I thought I was a little weird for having Wild Child (Marvel) as an obscure husbando. Some ugly old Catholic rapist? Really? Is that a genre of fetish?
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>>89692336
>Cumberbatch
>charisma and charm
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>>89720897
The character Sherlock. Cumberbatch seems alright tho. *shrugs* Seems kind of sweet.
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>>89698439
>People actually defending the Lorax movie
Has contrarianism gone too far?
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