In what /co/ series the hero slowly turns into the big bad over

Clone Wars

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The madman can actually do it. Sun Wukong was a villain on the original novel until he chimp out on heaven and Buddha gave him a lesson

>>89669373
>Two consecutive evil Goku arcs
How original

Nah, Goku isn't gonna be evil.

That said, he's gonna cause the destruction of a shitload of universes and end BILLIONS of lives because he can't keep his mouth shut.

>>89670039
and he's the ambassador of the 2020 Olympics

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>>89669373

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>>89670057
>Surrender filthy gaijins or perish
Trump demanding cash in exchange of military protection disregard the only argument against the return of the Japanese army besides muh PSTD so Imperial Japan is back.

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she probably won't end up evil permanently, but it seems like Star will be briefly evil some time during the next story arc.

>>89670532
>verses

>>89670121

I AM ALLAH

>it's an "OP pretends to be interested in comics/cartoons but actually just wants to discuss something off-topic and will refuse to read/watch anything suggested" thread
Wew.

Anyway, Cerebus the Aardvark.

>>89671812
To be fair the last DB thread the one with 500 reply we discover that the discussion here is better than in /a/ so o don't blame him

>>89672253
link?

>>89672275
89635705

>>89672447
Oops kinda dizzy just look in the archive it just died like 5 hours ago

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>>89669373
This image reminds me of Halt and Catch Fire.

Does it even matter?
All destroyed universes will be brought back via Dragon Balls or Angel Timey Wimey shenanigans

>>89672671
I hope so because Goku is a hero for many children and Toei already fired a director for the Future Trunks arc ending so I doubt they'll go that dark again.

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Look at all these characters who can KILL SUPERMAN

>>89672671
The Half of the Super balls are on one of the destroyed universes.

Shit will not hit the fan that hard, something will stop the tournament, I bet the new Zeno is evil but the old one not.

>>89672983
Who's the beauty in the background?

>>89672983

Can they?
Depending on which Superman we're talking about he could live. Or if we just take everything about Superman and put it together he could definitely live.

>>89672983
And their respective angels are stronger
And the angels's father is the strongest
And Zeno is Dr Manhattan without the existential pathos

Checkmate /co/

>>89673089
They're all the other Gods of Destruction. (Minus Champa, Beerus, and Gimli)

>>89673108
Their "destruction" power is magical in nature. Unless you've got a Superman who can shield himself from that shit he's fucked.

And even then, they're strong enough to casually kick a planet and make it explode and two of them fighting can make a universe implode.

>>89673169

Oh I guess he's probably screwed then in a fight but he still could survive it, since Superman has survived being hit by what was basically a supernova. As for destroying galaxies I'm pretty sure one version of Superman punched reality.

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>>89669815
>Goku said he would no longer be a pawn to the gods
>No longer gives a shit about Beerus threats
>In this episode he did to the thiefs what Raditz did to the farmer
>Chichi goes on how nobody should train since there are no bad guys anymore before Goku goes to train
Shit is real and it's happenign

>>89673108
I'm not talking about regular Superman. I'm not talking about Superboy Prime. I'm not even talking about Golden Superman who spent 10,000 years inside the sun. I'm talking about Superman Thought Robot, created by the Monitors of All Reality, powered by the fusion of the Ultimate Evil and the Ultimate Good, with 3D Super-vision, larger than the entire cosmos, with the power of THE GOOD GUY ALWAYS WINS in all caps.

>>89673717
Still loses to Demonbane

>>89671812
Honestly, Cerebus is only the big bad for himself, funnily enough.

>>89673633
Didn't they leave everyone who was a bad guy dead after boo killed them? How come there are still bad guys?

How did yamcha learn the spirit bomb before goku?

>>89673793
Beerus is Chaotic Neutral who showed up because he was bored.

Frieza was revived by his minions who were unaffected by the wish.

Champa and Co. only needed to be fought because Beerus and him can't stop trying to show off who has a bigger dick.

The Zamasu's only exist because of the tournament that Champa and Beerus held and because Gowasu is a fucking shit Supreme Kai.

The current tournament is the product of Goku being a battle crazy fight monkey who doesn't care about consequences.

>>89673873
I was thinking more about the bank robbers and guys with guns that keep showing up

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>>89673633

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>>89673927
Holy shit what episode is this from and what led up to it?

>>89670039
>billions of lives

Try centillions.

>>89674034
Today episode, some thugs tried to rob Goku after he sold his vegetables in the local market.

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>>89669373
Dungeon

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>>89669373
Does it count if the evil version is from the future?

>>89673089
Looks like Cleopatra. They probably changed her name.

Bojack Horseman

>>89672983
Let me guess. Their special powers involve using super hadoukens, right?

>>89674661
Nah they basically just hit ctrl+x on shit, delete it from reality

>>89674213
The dungeon master could also qualify since he was pretty optimistic in Poltron-Minet.

>>89673898
Good guys doing bad things? Never happened in society!

Maybe they were short on money for their daughter's operation?

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>>89669373
Zamasu was right.

>>89673633
I've secretly been wanting this to go down ever since I saw how selfish Goku could be in BotG. At least in DBZ, he was trying to hurt Frieza's ego, and was giving Gohan a chance to prove himself. In BotG, he was just thinking about himself

>>89673927
Question, is Super worth watching now?
All I heard about it was it was an awfully animated recap of the movies so I kind of stuck away from it.

>>89669373
>Goku's selfishness and stupidity is responsible for all the quadrillions of people who will die because of this stupid tournament
Truly the hero we deserve

>>89673717
gods of destruction aren't evil. STR is powerless against them.

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>>89676097
>is Super worth watching now?
Yes. Watch it since episode 28

Also, opinions on the new opening? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDePUq5fuWA

>>89673866
spirit ball is not spirit bomb

>Goku turns evil
>Akiras original plan of having Gohan become the protagonist comes to fruition

a man can dream

You niggas are digging where there is no oil

>>89676446
Fuck Gohan

>>89676272
Goku beats the shit out of a furry, what's not to like?

>Vegeta is a more considerate and loving husband to Bulma than Goku is to Chichi

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>Goku looks kind of menacing >Beerus looks like the good guy.
What did Toriyama mean by this?

So Bulma has always had blue hair, now the new power level for Saiyans has blue hair.
Has Bulma secretly always been the most powerful member of the group?

>>89676941
this is good

>>89676097
>All I heard about it was it was an awfully animated recap of the movies so I kind of stuck away from it.

It's not a recap after the first ~30 episodes or so, but it is still awfully animated.

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>>89676984
I just want my man Vegeta to finally be on the top once and for all
Is that so much to ask?

Anyone remember the retard who was convinced that Bra was going to be Trunks and Mai's daughter?
Gohanfag never held up his end of the bargain.

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He is a fucking superhero. Superman vs Goku SOON

>>89671107
Dose ah da only churches dat has God!

>>89669373
demon
its a webcomic

>>89669373
What if End of Z is just Goku hallucinating in his last moments alive after his friends banded together to mercy kill him?

>>89670039
This is what makes him blatlanty evil, hes the big bad

>>89669373
bojack horseman

>>89677287
DEEPEST LORE

>>89673927
>>89674034
In Goku's defense, he didn't kill the thug. He contained his strength

>>89675880
Goku is selfish because he's kinda losing his mind while waiting for Buu's reincarnation on this long period of peace but see above. There's still good on him. Even on the BotG movie you can see he really care about his friends and family, even Chichi

>>89677354
When was he ever the hero?

>>89676770
That's, like, half the fun of enjoying a show. Mindless theorizing

>>89677243
That costume is top tier

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>>89677287
>All those bonding moments between Goku and Goten on Super
>Goten worship his dad
>Goten give him the final blow
Now that will be the saddest anime ever.

>>89669815
>Sun Wukong was a villain
citation needed

>>89677499
he got worse trough the series,you have to admit.to the point where the last season finale had him losing almost all of his friends

>>89677523
Journey to the West

>>89670336
>Trump demanding cash in exchange of military protection disregard the only argument against the return of the Japanese army
>not huge change in mentality

>>89669373
I'd say volume 2 Daredevil could've been a great example IF IT WASN'T FOR EVIL FUCKING DEMONS WANTING TO TAKE OVER THE FUCKING WORLD AGAIN, DEMONS FUCK OFF SERIOUSLY.

First he became the Kingpin, then he became leader of the Hand but then Shadowland happened

>>89673110
>And Zeno is Dr Manhattan without the existential pathos
So far we've seen Zeno float, teleport and destroy a universe. He's not that powerful. Zeno doesn't even have Chronal-Awareness like Dr Manhatten does.

Zeno-fags are the worst people in the Dragonball fandom, with non-stop, wall-to-wall fabrication and even outright lying about the character.

Pathetic beyond pathetic.

>>89669373
Star Wars cartoon series.

>>89673873
>Beerus is Chaotic Neutral who showed up because he was bored
He's Netural evil,at best.

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>>89673757
Nah actally. The Thought-Robot shits all over Demonbane. And no, it can't beat Mandrakk either, because Demonbaje is not a character or story which has major real-world influence or inspiration toward real world people. Mandrakk and The Thought Robot are beings of pure Eucatastrophic Fiction.

>>89677243
That's not Superman though.

>>89673927
I knew there was something out of the ordinary in yesterdays episode.

>>89677560
Japan's right wing has been trying to change the constitution for years and besides old WW2 survivors like Hayao Miyazaki protesting, the only sensible argument was that it was cheaper to allow Americans to take care of the national defense, even if they like to chimp out on Okinawa and rape girls but Japan always saw Okinawa more like a colony than an actual part of its territory. Nevertheless the right wing has been pushing the project for years, trying to have a more friendly image of the army among the public opinion. Trump's new external direction fits perfectly for the Japanese right wing's intentions. That's how international politics work.

>>89673927
wtf I hate goku now

>>89677594
>So far we've seen Zeno float, teleport and destroy a universe.

We only saw Dr. Manhattan float, teleport, and destroy Rorschach.

>Zeno doesn't even have Chronal-Awareness like Dr Manhatten does.

Well, this is anime for five-year-olds so even if he simultaneously existed along all points in his timeline we would never get an extended inner monologue to show it, so that's not a real argument.

>>89677696
>even if he simultaneously existed along all points in his timeline
He doesn't. That is why there are 2 Zenos now.

>>89677625
It he evil? He's just doing his job, they even call champa a lazy fuck because he's not completing his share of planets eliminated

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>>89677696
back-peddling, goal-post moving, deflection, psuedo-logic, you do it all. I accept your surrender.

We've seen Manhatten move between universes, manipulate matter and energy, teleport others, alter his own body, create life, create universes, show awareness of the past, present and future simultaneously...

Meanwhile, Zeno fans do nothing but lie and make things up.

>>89676272
The song feels uninspired and generic. There's nothing memorable about it at all. The video was decent enough.

>>89677769
>We've seen Manhatten move between universes
What?

>create life, create universes
DC rebirth ain't Watchmen canon, yo.

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>>89677434
Raditz didn't kill the farmer either. In the anime he was still alive and in the manga the body disappeared which implies he got up and got away.

Thinking back on it, I don't think Raditz killed anyone. Compared to Vegeta, Nappa and all the other villains that came after him he was a saint.

>>89676097
yes and no, some episodes are filler and are worth skipping, but i say the episodes worth watching is when champa showed up and held that tourney against beerus, the black goku arc, and the current new arc now.

>>89677900
i really wish there'd be someway of bringing radits back, i'm mean it's it's not like you can't wish him back with the dragon balls, and since goku is way more powerful than him now, it will sure keep him in line.

>>89677243

I hope these new universe people actually deliver. Universe 6 was such a fucking disappointement.

>Piccolo recolor
>Frieza recolor
>Fuccboi Vegeta
>Winnie the Pooh
>And don't get me on the dumb robot

>>89677504
not going to lie, it is

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>>89677806
>mental quadruple-backflip spiral somersaults.
Your defeat is total and absolute. Zeno-fags are the lowest form of life.

>>89677977
What would his existence contribute to the series?

>>89677986
yeah, it would kinda suck if the other universes were just recolors or alternate versions of already existing characters, but looking at the other universes, with the fighters and gods, it looks like it'll be different this time.
i'm thinking the universe the elephant god of destruction shares the same universe the wolf guy who was getting his shit wreck from goku.
i'm guessing there's a furry universe competing.

>>89678104
to be honest absolutely nothing

>>89678063
>Zeno can destroy a whole multiverse in seconds
>Manhattan isn't even able to destroy all the world's nukes before they land

>Manhattan couldn't stop some really smart human from nuking New York city
>Zeno easily defeated a God who was merging with the entire universe

>>89677977
Same, I actually like Raditz a lot.

>>89678104
He could do that thing where characters on the sideline comment on the fight except be a sarcastic asshole about it.

>>89678129

I'm hype for the elepahtn because he's based Gowasu's partner.

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>>89678148
>>Zeno can destroy a whole multiverse in seconds
No. Again, Zeno-fags making shit up. anyone who can travel between universes and destroy them can do this. Krona was going around destroying universes with a thought.

Dr Doom and Rick Sanchez can do this and they are mortal.

>Zeno easily defeated a God who was merging with the entire universe
By destroying the universe. Destroying the universe is not a major feat when you enter cosmic tier.

Zeno-fags are Fucking disgusting.

>>89678263
>Zeno-fags are Fucking disgusting.
Last time I checked they weren't the ones sperging out over this.
You are.

>>89678171
>based Gowasu
You mean that massively incompetent God who raised an insane monster who claimed incalculable lives?

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>>89678263
>Comparing him to Dr Manhattan right up until you got BTFO, then moving the goalposts to 'Zeno isn't the strongest character in fiction' when no one claimed he was.

>>89678306
I accept your surrender.

>>89678334
I'm not even the same guy, autismo.

>>89678330
You resistance only makes you look more wrong, especially since your greentext entails things that never happened.

>>89678063
Maybe some random Japanese asshole wrote a laughably non-canon fan comic where Zeno does something more amazing than that, who can say?

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>>89678375
I accept your surrender.

>>89678314

The very same, I'm waiting for his new godtube video, should be done by tomorrow if he goes by the usual schedule.

>>89678104
Get him to do hardcore training until he can go SSJ3, then suffocate opponents with his hair.

>>89678104
>What would his existence contribute to the series?

An episode where they get him to cut his hair.

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>>89678263
Not that anon, but If Krona and Doom can do this, why haven't they won? Hell I don't understand how Thanos haven't won, yet he bodied the universe's greatest heroes and villains with the Infinity gauntlet. That shit makes no sense.

EXPLAIN!

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>>89678574
>Doom
Doom wants to rule, not destroy. Doom holds mortals above Gods, and even when he became God, refused to just wish everything to how he wants it because that's what a lazy, weak-willed God would do. Thanos calls him out on this and then Doom killed un-killable Thanos.

>Krona
Krona was going around wiping out universes and absorbing them. He was then stopped.

>>89678574
Doom has won like..... thrice by now.
He wins in the 2099 timeline
And 2/4 Secret Wars

>>89678717
Can i get a source on this?

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>Goku could go evil

Wait, I haven't watched any Dragon Ball stuff since I was a kid. What's happening?

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>Goku has become the bad guy in Dragon Ball.

He should have stayed dead back during the Cell Saga Trunks created the darkest timeline of all.

>>89677551
citation needed

>>89678957
Zamasu? More like Rightmasu

>>89677625
Nah. See he's just doing his job. He's also very lenient to the people he likes and the only thing that hampers him is laziness. He takes a lot of shit from Goku and Co. because he kind of likes them that he'd nuke other planets for.

The fact that he was ready to kill Goku to save the universe earned him some bonus points with me again

>>89678148
Zeno is being toyed around by a literal retard like Goku.

Check and mate.

>>89678948
Goku isn't actively evil per se, he's just extremely amoral and ambivalent. He's best buds with multiple genocidal gods and doesn't see any problem with it.

>>89678957
>If he was dead during the Buu Saga Vegeta wouldn't have got his panties in a twist and Buu never would have been freed
>If he was dead during the Beerus saga, Buu wouldn't have pissed Beerus off AND Goku wouldn't have egged shit on
>Return of F is the only saga where everyone kind of gets fucked by him not be alive for the previous two arcs because then Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue wouldn't have occurred but Frieza, the only logical way to survive is to get Beerus to act, either by having Beerus decide to protect his snack planet or by having Shin literally go "I'm going to fight Frieza if you won't and if I die I hope you like getting ass fucked"
>However without that Beerus wouldn't have the confidence to start shit with Champa
>Which means that Zamasu would have never gotten his Goku boner from watching GodTube
>Which means Zeno never gets his twin and the death of 11 universes is averted

>>89677670
No,thats good and all but their military forces will have to go through 12 generations of apathetic clerks and 8 generation of anime risen infantiles. Not to mention ,they are just as hedonistic as an average american,but doesn't have that many complexes.

>>89677766
yes,because he is misusing authority

>>89677551
Sun Wukong was a dick, not a villain.

>>89679246
Yup, they've accidentally created a situation where things would objectively be better if Goku didn't exist.

>>89679381
There are plenty of nationalistic madmen in Japan; perhaps not on the same level as their kamikaze grandpappies, but the idea that they're the world's best race is still there. It wouldn't take that much propaganda to turn otaku into soldiers; a huge percentage of anime now is "if you were just put in a world where YOUR knowledge was king; you'd easily prove how much better you are than everyone else". That's so easy to twist into a "go abroad to teach those fuckers Japanese superiority" its not even funny.

>>89676272
Android 17 is back? Maybe I should watch this

>>89672884
Wasn't the ending of the Future Trunks arc just Top God going "This timeline's stupid. Imma erase it from existence so I won't have to deal with it"?

>>89679381
That's the magic with Asian populations, they do as they are told by their elites. Also the kawaii culture was a reaction to Japan's butthurt for not having an army and losing political independence for becoming an US colony de facto. Historically, things stay stagnant on Japan for too long and then they change too quick. Hell, the emperor Akihito has already made public his intention to quit the throne in favor of his heir, what mean a literal new era for Japan.

>>89673757
Wouldn't that Superman just be DC's Demonbane?

>>89674661
They can erase things from existence in addition of super hadoukens.

>>89672983
And Batman

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>>89679642
The Thought Robot is above Demonbane. It operates on some major higher-reality 4th wall (is aware it's a comic book character) shit.

>>89679753
>>89674661
>>89672983
They can beat Superman because they have the abstract power of destruction, and can will things and people destroyed. Superman has no defense against magic like this.

If they don't use that power though, Superman can beat them. However, they have no reason to not use that power.

>>89677243
Kinda a missed opportunity for Toei to create a Superman look alike for Goku to defeat.

>>89679867
That would be supremely childish. Also they all ready did Supperman in Dr Slump.

>>89679603
Zamasu pulling a gygas fucked that entire timeline up beyond belief. There was no other way to save it.

>>89669373
Goku being the big bad would involve him knowing that Zen-Oh is going to destroy the losing universes.

While Goku did remind him, that's really as far as the blame can logically go because he doesn't know about what will happen to the loser. None of them know and won't until the next episode. Shit, you might as well toss Beerus and Champa in there considering the fact that Zen-oh was watching them gave him the idea for his own tournament in the first place

>>89679824
It's really foggy. Right now, Beerus is at "stronger than Goku" level. but there's no real measuring stick when it comes to winning in a 1v1.

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>>89679903

>>89679824
>If they don't use that power though, Superman can beat them.

No, way. Beerus and Champa fighting against each other would physically destroy both of their universes.

Beerus also cancelled an universe wide-explosion during his battle with SSJ God Goku and he wasn't even tired after the battle.

Even baseline they're operating on a way higher level than any mainstream version of Superman. The only ones that might be on their level, like Superman Prime (from One Million, not Superboy Prime) lack feats showing that.

>>89679553
>There are plenty of nationalistic madmen in Japan
Yep,entire Japan. But still not enough.
>It wouldn't take that much propaganda to turn otaku into soldiers; a huge percentage of anime now is "if you were just put in a world where YOUR knowledge was king; you'd easily prove how much better you are than everyone else". That's so easy to twist into a "go abroad to teach those fuckers Japanese superiority" its not even funny.
No,I'm not saying it will be hard to turn them patriotic. But fat piece of shit remains fat piece of shit even if its determinant to serve his duty.

>>89679628
>That's the magic with Asian populations, they do as they are told by their elites
The problem is that they are really successful at it.

>>89679107
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>>89679991
Champa hurt his leg on a coffee table. Explain.

>>89680075
What? Just because you're nearly indestructible doesn't mean you don't feel pain.

>>89674323
Sure

>>89673169
Its not magic, its just rule of the universe type stuff conceptual.

They are given authority to kill by multiverse creator, so they can kill whatever. They're kept in check by angels so they don't abuse this power.

>>89679824
Its like saying "Superman can only beat Batman due to eye beams, but if he doesn't use the eye beams, Batman could punch him out"

No, they're still galaxy breaking planet destroying when they sneeze, star breakers. They are things that aren't allowed to fight seriously or else they end up breaking the entire universe. Beerus himself has broken three stars in his sleep once out of frustration because they were keeping him awake, with casual attacks.

They aren't things Goku can fight either currently.

>>89677243
His goD is Joker
Angel is Harley Quin
Kai is Robin
But who is he?

>>89673633
Don't forget about the part where he intentionally invoked a multiversal tournament where, if your team loses, your universe and everyone in it is erased from existence.

>>89677790
Is the other way around for me

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>>89680740
Also he interrupted Zeno, which caused a bunch of planets to break and be destroyed.

>>89680357
Superman cannot be hurt by a coffee table. His invulnerability is always on. Fact remains, Champa can be hurt by a coffee table.

>>89680967
Its a gag. Anyone can but hurt by anything, including poop, as a gag in DBZ. Gags break powerlevels every time.

Superman is also weak against gag characters, like that time he fought the Nesquick Bunny or Bugs Bunny

>>89679589
After he was revived he went off and became a park ranger, got married, adopted two kids and had another. He never told 18 about any of this because he found it embarrassing.

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>>89676272
latin dub when?
I'm tired of grandma Goku

>>89679100
Zamasu? More like TheMath

>>89669373
Wait,goku went evil? I thought it was an AU goku

>>89682176
People are just making theories because of the new intro and stuff like this
>>89673633
>>89673927
>>89669815
Read the thread

>>89669373
I haven't watched since the twin Zeno episode. Why is goku going to cause destruction?
Also to answer your question, rightclops from marvel. But they want you to think he is a villain for the shirt inhumans

>>89682176
Black wasen't really a AU Goku it was more like mindswap kinda deal

>>89682242
If goku turns as the big bad i hope vegeta becomes the big good.
That last episode had vegeta being more empathetic than goku

>>89682176
>>89682261
>Goku wants a multiverse tournament already
>Zeno forgot about it
>Beerus begs Goku to not remind him, stop seeing Zeno already
>Zeno is childish, but that's what makes him super dangerous. Stop playing with this bomb.
>Whis agrees, don't involve Zeno in this anymore, don't remind him
>Beerus threatens to destroy Goku if he doesn't heed this warning, his naivety is going to be the death of them all.
>Goku goes ahead and reminds Zeno anyway about the multiverse tournament
>Zeno decides to start the tournament
>All losing universes get wiped now
>Goku doesn't give a fuck

>>89678902
For Doom or Krona?

>>89682331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxRdecTW14

>>89682331

Wew lad, Goku just left Majin Vegeta eating dirt with this.

It's funny how Boros from OPM, a guy made to be a parody of DBZ, ended up predicting exactly what would happen.

>>89682328
>Vegeta:Goku i can't eave my wife while she is about to have the baby
>Goku:She's the one having the baby Vegeta, let's just go, don't bea puss, i wasen't during Goten's birth and look everything fine

Gokuis kinda an asshole

>>89677900
>in the manga the body disappeared which implies he got up and got away.
Or Kami let him take his body to the afterlife with him, to train with King Kai against Raditz.

>>89669373
Steve Universe

>>89682521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49-nEvUSv6s

Toriyama has said in recent years he hates how Goku is treated as a super hero, or a protector of Earth.

His reasons are often more selfish in nature. He wants to fight strong guys, which is often the villain.

People blame Goku for staying dead that one time "You should have stayed and raised Gohan and Goten", but it was probably the right choice.

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>>89682538
>SU's Universe is Universe 4 and three of the fighters are the Diamonds.
>Goku finishes what Rose Quartz started.
I could live with this.

>>89680075
>>89680357
>>89680967
>>89681080

Wasn't it explained at some point that it basically had to do with keeping your guard up / ki.

I think that was the excuse they gave when SSB Goku got taken out by a laser gun

then again Beerus was in a similar situation where he comically facedesked clean through a stone table without even flinching so it could be just because humor

>>89679246
Do you think any of the gods are disturbed by the fact that they now have two Zenos both capable of wiping the entire multiverse if they wanted too

>>89669815
>Sun Wukong was a villain on the original novel until he chimp out on heaven and Buddha gave him a lesson
Literally only the first 7 chapters of a 100 chapter story.

>>89682721
>His reasons are often more selfish in nature. He wants to fight strong guys, which is often the villain.

Is like everyone forgets how he let Vegeta scape after the first fight on earth, the guy it's following his nature

>>89673757
>thought robot
>losing against demonbane

Nigga, Thought Robot is: "nuh-uh, I have Demonbane +1"

>>89682483
would you care to explain?

isnt that boros guy, the last boss from the anime?

>>89674213
came to post this, herbert of craftswich was one of my favorite characters in all comics

>>89682721
What the actual hell, this is the first time I've heard Goku's jap voice. I cant believe he sounds like a 10 year old

>>89683235
Goku has the same voice since dragon ball, his voice is literally a old lady

>>89683274
also, if you want to know how old, we are talking about 'old enough for your work to be considered guinness record material'

numberwise, we are talking about close to 90s, hope miss nozawa has been trying to find a proper succesor to continue the goku legacy once she bites the dust, because , realistically speaking, she doesn't have much time left.

>>89677551
He just wrecked the shit out of Chino-Indian pantheons in the first half, and was a dick about it.
Then he was Piccolo personality-wise.

>>89683071
>>89677626
>>89679642
Demon is JUSTICE. If one fights for justice, then they too are part of Demonbane. The justice that "we" here in the real believe in is Demonbane. So if DC was to close their doors tomorrow and the world ended for us humans, that is it for SMTR. Meanwhile, If alien life on another world fights for justice, they too are Demonbane. YHWH is Demonbane.

>>89682331
Is that true though. I don't think he was told about the universes get wiped rule yet only that a big awesome multiversal tournament was gonna go down now

>>89682176
I have no idea what the face in the intro is about

Its not Black because him and ZAMASS have been wiped from reality

Maybe Gokus saiyan instincts end up resurfacing?

That would explain him risking the universe for MUH FIGHTS

>>89684368
Implying this isn't the first time he risked the world for MUH FIGHTS

granted this is the largest scale version of this though

>>89683947
But Demonbane as a concept hold no real power while Superman does. If you asked what Demonbane stood for to some random jackass on the street they wouldn't know what the fuck you were talking about while if you asked the same question about Superman they'd say "Truth, justice, and the American way."

Demonbane can claim to be justice, but Superman demonstrates it by doing stuff like helping bring down the KKK as an influential organization.

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eliminating universes is fine as long as they don't get rid of fembroly

>>89684619
Be it the Marvel U, DCU, here, Starship Troopers, or any other realm or universe. As long as you fight and believe in justice, you too are Demonbane. Justice exceeds Superman, it even exceeds humanity.

>>89684727
Thought Robot wins because nobody gives a fuck about Demonbane except people wanking over power levels. Superman has helped shape what justice means to a lot of people in the formative years of their life while Demonbane suckles parasitically at his teat.

>>89685047
Fame or infamy does not matter. Demon=Justice. the concept of justice exceeds the early 1900's where two jew teenagers created Superman anon.

>>89685263
but it also exceeds the early 2000's when some japanese pedo came up with a robot

>>89682721
Maybe Goku being a good parent would've mellowed him out a bit more. Worked with Vegeta

>>89685263
>the concept of justice exceeds the early 1900's
Wow, Demonbane is a literal monster then, because a just punishment to the Aztecs for the crime of public intoxication under the age of 70 was the death penalty.

And this guys is supposed to be good?

>>89685725
I don't see what's wrong with the strongest thing in existence being a mech embodying the concept of Aztec law.

>>89684658
Who is she going to job to

>>89686397
Roshi or Tien clearly

alternatively she gets the hots for Krillin and 18 will have to lay the smackdown on her

>>89686579
Why Krillin