Assuming Finn ends up with a girl we know (if at all), is it

>>89644112
No.

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>>89644112
ya know,if it bugs you that much ,there's always fanfiction

>>89644112

And risk pissing off the /u/ segment of their fanbase?

Unlikely...

>>89644193
Its all shit except when its bubbline, right? I know its redundant to think about this shit at this point because they probably made a decision ages ago, still one can hope

>>89644193
There's more reasons that just that. To have Finn and PB get together now, would feel completely out of left field.

>>89644193
> And risk pissing off the /u/ segment of their fanbase?
This argument is sort of flawed. By the time (and if) they commit to stating who Finn's girl is, the show will already be over. And at that point scoring progressive cookies no longer matters because you don't aim to get fans, or ratings, or media coverage, or anything. That's the beauty of show finals, you can do whatever the fuck you want because it doesn't matter if viewers like it anymore.

>>89644193
Even if they ignore that part of the fanbase, making Finn and PB get together after all that's happen would just feel forced and one sided.

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PB ended up being my most hated character, aside from Cinnamon Bun. I hope Finn gets with someone better.

His best picks are:
Canyon
Huntress Wizard
Water Nymph
Bronwyn

Flame Princess used to be okay, but now she's shit tier. Susan would be a great sister, but I feel like she'll never be seen again since the special. Since she's going on a lesbian adventure around the world.

Marceline used to be cool too, but they really are forcing Bubbline compared to the early writers.

>>89644363
> literal who
> B-lister
> literal who
> literal who
Your hopes are a bit unrealistic.

>>89644112
Finn has moved on from seeing her as a romantic option and has accepted their pure platonic relationship, and frankly you should too, shipping isn't emotionally healthy bro.

>>89644363
>but they really are forcing Bubbline compared to the early writers.

The AT crew has been fairly constant over the years. It's more a change of direction.

They probably wont give Finn any girl because CN is keen on selling merchandise and making any fans angry is just not a good business deal.

The best thing they can do is just give Finn someone we dont even know. I would be disappointed but thats how it has to be apparently.

>>89644373
You want Finn to be with PB? She's an awful person. Still way more mature than Finn too, by a thousand years.

Canyon a literal who? She is the girlfriend of the legendary hero, Billy.

Water Nymph, shows interest in Finn. Still needs more episodes to show development of character. She lives and hangs outside of his house. She definitely likes Finn.

Browyn is a bit younger than Finn, but with the rapid aging of Rainicorn and Dog, she'll be older than Finn if she gets another episode. I'm sure Jake, would be fine with letting his bestfriend fuck his granddaughter.

Huntress Wizard is cute, she stalks Finn as well. She had no bad features aside from not wanting to be in a normie relationship.

>>89644112
No, because of this >>89644385
And it will most likely end in this>>89644404 in a flash forward or him not getting anyone at all (by the show's finale) because it doesn't matter that much, it is the most satisfying thing for everyone and for the story

Although I wouldn't mind if he gets marceline or pb

Even if that relationship is probably buried and they arent really compatible... I still see it as something interesting. Probably because I like idealistic knight/princess relationships and here we have very different people who actually complete each other in a way. I am biased but Id like to see it happen.

>>89644193
remember,finn did have that dream where he was the king and pb called him her husband,the one with the ghost of shoko

Never supported Finngum at the start.

Finnceline is where its at.

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Remember to purge all bubbline naysayers

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>>89644703
I'll laugh my ass off if it becomes official.

>>89644112
No son. You need to give up on that.

>>89644419
> You want Finn to be with PB?
I don't think I said anything like that in my post, did I?
My point is, you can't realistically expect Finn to end up with a character who has appeared in 3 (three), if not 1 (one) episode out of 284. In-show arguments are pointless here, it doesn't make sense from a meta perspective.

>>89644731
Idk man, I'd say Huntress Wizard has a pretty good shot and she's only appeared once.

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>>89644729
>>89644730
I mean purge you and your kind

>>89644739
>GRASSED

PB had to become a child to consider Finn. Get the message already.

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>>89644795
Seems like you're the one who can't get the message

>>89644806
>Resorting to the comics for evidence

wew lad

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>>89644806
> posting the comics

>>89644833
Just a small glimpse of things to come, kiddo

>>89644806
>those legs

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>>89644840
>bad end where Marcy gets murdered and Bubbline killed off forever
>Shrek Finn
Such counter-productiveness anon

>>89644806
Yeah, those mean fuck all since they do their own thing and aren't canon.

>>89644863
I agree.

>>89644854
> Marcy gets murdered and Bubbline killed off forever
Best timeline, bro.

>yfw everything could be solved with Fin and Fiona swapping bodies

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>>89644112
Its just a stupid ship from a wacky adventure cartoon but god I want them to be together

>>89644112
what if he just ends up banging everyone and it isn't revealed until the last episode when they all have very fin like children.
adventurers don't get settled, they roam and bone.
I really wish >>89644193 wasn't right.
generally though, romance is what killed this show.

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>>89644901
this desu i'm going down with this ship

>>89644586
>Probably because I like idealistic knight/princess relationships
Like Guinevere x Lancelot?

The problem with idealistic knight/princess relationships is that the time the ideal knight fucked the ideal princess it was an affair that ruined everything for everyone forever.

Or at the very least until the once and future king awakens and reclaims his throne.

>>89644902
> romance is what killed this show
Nah, the writers just got tired of writing random crazy comedy. If romance hadn't killed it, Jesse's pseudo-philosophical masturbation would have. Or Sugar's MUH FEELS. Or DEEPEST LORE.

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You think they'll jump the shark and have finn end up with a guy? personally I wouldn't mind as long as they're good for each other

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>>89644934
I mean, there aren't any non-assugly guys around in Ooo so I doubt it.

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>Finn will still not have growth spurt by end of the series
sadness

>>89644920
actually, it could have been a show about a boy taking TIME to go on half light-hearted ADVENTUREs instead of crying about girls and daddy issues like it was for a good while.
then the flame princess nation attacked

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>>89644960
looks like lich

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I have a moderate feeling that Season 9 might be a mess because of all the development and story arcs they'll scramble to end out.

Anyone else share this feeling?

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>>89644112

No.

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>>89644960

>>89644983
That's Death, dipshit

>>89645014
Possibly

https://twitter.com/samalden/status/803116467809980417

>>89644960
well this pretty much confirms that finn&jake&bmo&pb&ice king are just buddies and they will go that way till the end.

Endgame comes to either finn becoming some sort of a ruler of Ooo or him going to explore something he hasnt been in before (like space maybe). I dont know man.

>>89645048

there's always an option for a movie.

>>89645071
>implying they'd put spoilers on that board

>>89645082
They probably dont give a shit.

>>89645082
Am I delusional for thinking that's why they didn't put Huntress Wizard up there?

>>89645101
Wait, nvm, she's in the bottom left.

>>89644308
>you can do whatever the fuck you want because it doesn't matter if viewers like it anymore.

Not in these days of box sets and binge re-viewing. How much money have shows like St Elsewhere and How I Met Your Mother lost in DVD sales because they pissed people off in the finale.

I would pay top money just to see Finn's children be from different mothers.

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>>89645152

>>89645164
when finns not home, they can play with each other huh

>>89645164
Is PB even capable of reproducing? I mean, she's literally bubblegum.

Is bubbleline even a good ship, at all?

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im somehow nostalgic on this art

>>89644363
>Bronwyn
My fellow dark-skinned brother!

>>89645201
The idea is okay at least, you got a finn whos a knight and bubblegum whos a princess. Pretty simple, they are different from each other but can be complete each other because of that. It was probably an original idea of Pen.

But it all went to shit and they made PB a lesbian and Finn a cuck who will be a lonely adventurer till the end days.

Why was Bubblegum willing to make a clone of herself for some random guy, but she wouldn't clone herself for Finn?

>>89645201
It's not bad if you're into the whole 'prim proper/wild chick' dynamic. Probably more potential there that hasn't been realised in-show which makes it hard to care for it.

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>>89645272
Makes you think

>>89645260
They said bubbline.

>>89645272
Braco was a nuisance, so she made a sexbot to get rid of him.
Finn is a useful dogged hero, who she can exploit to the benefit of her kingdom. It makes no sense to make him a sexbot - he might stop obeying her orders.

>>89645294
Shit, my bad, I am kinda tired.

>>89645278
That's just the problem, the writer's don't care about the pairing beyond the tokenism of it. The number one reason they do it, is so they can proclaim their progressiveness because "lesbians".

Almost any pairing can be done well with the proper time and devotion given to making it work. The problem is that the writers won't give this pairing more time than they need to be able to wear it like a badge of honor.

Finn will probably end up alone in the final while saying shit like "what time is it Jake? Adventure Time!" while running off into the sunset. Him being with anyone would probably tie down his adventuring but meh. I'm emotionally dead after all the flame princess business anyway since Finn lost her in the shittiest way possible.

>>89645321
I'm not convinced they do it as solely pandering, but they definitely haven't delivered on the full potential of their relationship. That's why I'm hoping they just stay friends, or else they'll have to do some serious work in these last two seasons to convince me. Either go all in or not, don't make this another Korrasami situation.

>>89645501
It would be corny as fuck but this is the safest way to do that and CN is fucking jewish, so...

>>89645501
>What time is it?
>Adventure Time!
When was the last time they said that?

The last five seconds of the final episode will be Huntress Wizard popping up out of nowhere "Hey all that stuff before about not falling in love was real dumb, wanna bang?" and Finn will get a big 'U'-shaped smile and nod, cut to credits.

ASSUMING IT FUCKING MATTERS

YOU PIECES OF SHIT HELPED CHANGE THE FOCUS ON ADVENTURE TIME FROM ADVENTURING TO THIS ROMANCE BULLSHIT

>>89645739
fuck adventures and fuck white people

>>89644112
he is gonna end up with grass finn symbolizing how he can only hook up with his hand

>>89645033
Triggered

>>89644112

TOO YOUNG

AND

TOO OLD

>>89645675
Like half way through season 1.

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Finn is going to die alone in a cave surrounded by gold, Like Billy

No. Even if he did, he'd outgrow her pretty quickly, since she won't mature beyond being in her late teens or early twenties in his lifetime.

>>89645191
Everything in Ooo seems capable of making babies with weird shit.

If PB decides she wants to get pregnant, she'd probably have an easier time than anyone on the planet, considering she's queen science bullshit-mancer.

>>89647603
I thought you were gonna say cause PB is made of gum, therefore she's more flexible and stretchy than a human woman, making the delivery much less painful.

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>>89646870
>>89647575
delet

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I just want them to be buds like pic related ;_;

>>89644112
>Assuming Finn ends up with a girl we know (if at all)
After the RS ending the writers could make a girl that never appeared once in the show and make her marry Flinn

>>89648774
It seems like they're at that point now really.

>>89648864
no it aint. I mean ya got Pajama War but that's about it. Comic PB treats comic Finn with much more respect imo

>>89645304
IM pretty sure he would fuck off and stop listening to her forever if she gave him a clone of her that's nicer to him and is willing to put out.

>>89648912
From what I saw in season 7 and 8 so far, they're on great terms with one another.

>>89648959
i dont see it famalam but agree to disagree

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>>89648912
do we watch the same show, PB and Finn are chill as fuck.
Please stop watching with your shipping eyes.

>>89648982
Fair enough senpai.

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>>89647603
She already did that in Season 1 i think. She took some of Finn's DNA and spliced it with her own to create a Sphinx to protect Ooo. I remember he felt weird about it at first but PB just manipulated him into being okay with it since it was for the good of the Candy Kingdom.

Knowing PB she will never be able to truly love anyone because she cannot see people as living beings. To her everything is an object that she must protect/own as part of her kingdom or a threat that needs to be manipulated into her collection or destroyed. This is why I can't stand Bubbeline shippers because once you get past the "lesbians makes it awesome" bullshit, you realize that the relationship is destined to be toxic and unstable. Marcy is miss wild child, sure she's reined it in such as her LSP episode and stakes but the one thing that pisses her off the most is being taken advantage of/manipulated (Like her Father/Ash/Vamps did to her). PB is a sociopath who is a pathological manipulator and feigns apologies/remorse for her actions only to repeat the same behaviors that constantly get her in trouble and alienate people from trusting/liking her. Put those two together and it's a toxic timebomb rivaling the Lich Nuke.

>>89647387
If anything PB would probably capture Finn as he got too old to fight and put him in one of those candy pods like the Alien episode. She'd harvest his genes and use it to create candy-human hybrid warriors to protect Ooo and add to her collection.

Knowing the writers it's highly likely Finn will stay a Lone Wanderer of Ooo with Jake as his only companion. Huntress Wizard abandons him because he doesn't have the grass sword and Finn gets cucked by Fern. Soon just like the revelation that he's the comet of change he'll settle for his lot in life as an object to be constantly used and abused until his mind, body, and/or soul are completely shattered as the cycle begins anew.

Finn dies unceremoniously in the finale, few mourn him.

>>89648912
Different (better) writers.

>>89644960
I'm not sure how I feel about locking his age to 16, I really liked the concept of Finn aging with Jeremy, but there would probably be story complications if he was 20.

>>89649024
Damn those toys sucked. Finns left arm is perpetually in "holding up sword" pose and they didn't go for the obvious Gumby and Pokey, wire in plastic style toys.

Probably the reason Rebeca Sugar hasn't OK'd Steven Universe figures yet.

>>89645048
>last two seasons are bonkers
>stills waste time on stupid shit like High Strangeness

>>89649298
I loved High Strangeness...

>>89649298
>Still waste time on character development like High Strangeness
What's it like being a jackass.

>fin wakes up from coma
>everything was just a dream
>goes back to work at MCdonalds at the age of 30.
this is how it will end

>>89649436
>>89649442
All Treetrunks episodes are complete trash but if you've stuck with AT this long, you will probably won't find anything to complain about

>>89649508
>All Treetrunks episodes are complete trash except High Strangeness

FTFY

I quite liked Crystals have Power too

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>>89649508
>All Treetrunks episodes are complete trash
what's it like being a tasteless jackass

>>89649560
>>89649549
>Idiot whores with shit taste

Let finn hook up with viola

>>89649685
His own (adopted) niece?

>>89649623
rude.

TIMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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>all of these fags not realizing that Finn is a celibate knight

>>89649974
Did that cat ever make a return? So fucking weird.

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NEVER EVER

There's a lot of things that could happen to Finn during the ending desu, he could finally bring humanity back to the main land of Ooo, he could hit fuck it and journey with Jake and BMO, he could find someone to love and then cut to the credits, he could throw a large ass party in the candy kingdom with damn near the whole cast, or he could simply die and the comet cycle continues.

There's a lot of possibilities but desu Finn and relationships are kill at this point. PB is thousands of years old, has a kingdom to look after and is basically with Marceline at this point, they could both live for ages to come so why not pair the immortal's together.

Flame Princess could give Finn a second chance since he matured a lot but he's probably friend zoned for life.

Canyon is a wandering adventurer too so maybe, but then again she's probably old as fuck and never wants to date again after Billy.

Huntress Wizard will probably end up with Fern so Finn essentially cucked himself and got the girl at the same time

People say Water Nymph but she really just chills in the pond and does her own thing.

I would say it's too late to introduce a new love interest but Huntress Wizard got introduced as a love interest during the end of Season 7 so anything is possible really.

At this point Finn could jump universes and date Fiona and I wouldn't really mind.

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>Natasha Allegri drew this once upon a time

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>we will never find out what it meant

>>89650383
She also drew a hell of a lot of bubbline if I'm not mistaken?

>>89650470
He sees her as being someone relatable to his own age.

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>>89650255

>Huntress Wizard will probably end up with Fern

That sounds stupid as fuck, Fern can't even play the flute

Also, I don't think the Water Nymphs were ever an option

>>89644112
PB doesn't deserve Finn at this point

>>89644404
>They probably wont give Finn any girl because CN is keen on selling merchandise and making any fans angry is just not a good business deal.
>The best thing they can do is just give Finn someone we dont even know.

But wouldn't that anger all of the shipperfags? If they want to avoid angering any fans so they can keep selling merchandise, their best bet is to pair Finn with no one.

>>89644189
>fanfiction
>bubbleine
Choose both

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>>89644112
>Assuming Finn ends up with a girl we know (if at all), is it possible for him to actually get PB in the end? Even with all that lesbian crap.


No it's not possible. Each season since the 2nd, we've been given a bread crumb trail of exposition regarding PB's personality and history.

She's almost on par with Stalin or Mao in terms of how she runs her government.

In the end, despite her physical appearance, she's mentally too old for Finn.

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HW or bust

>>89650383
That was specifically because FP just showed up and it seemed like Fubblegum was deader than dirt, that was like her going away present to the ship

Nat had some good art, sad she didn't stay with the show and moved on to make something as mediocre at best if you want to be really generous as Bee and Puppycat

>>89651103
>Bee and Puppycat

The Mighty No. 9 of animation. What a clusterfuck

He might end up with FP since he's matured a ton since the break up and this show has a shit ton of morals, it's not out of the park for them to be together again with the message of "Everyone deserves a second chance" or some shit.

I don't know how I'd feel if Finn ended up being single when the show ended though, there's high chances of it happening but regardless the blow of the show ending will probably kill people way harder than any ship so fuck it.

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>>89644419

>canyon and finn

How can anyone look at those two and think it's going to work?

Finn would need a huge cock curse or become a giant.

It's almost as bad as him dating FP.

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I hope if anything, it's Huntress Wizard. She was pretty cool and she has a great design.

Why are there no good HW fics?

>>89651320
>Canyon will never hold you against her huge bosom

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>>89651320
Or she could just use him as a dildo.

Why does Finn need to end up with some one at the end of the show? Why not end the show with Finn and Jake doing their thing? Isn't that a committed relationship? Too many AT and RS fans are obsessed with the lead(s) finding a girl to settle down with. To be honest, you people are too fixated on arcane religious practices.

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>>89650483
Yup, it was good Bubbline too.

>>89644672
Finn and PB will end up together, if not in this life in another. PB and Shoko's souls are destined to be reunited.

>>89651945

because a big part of finn's character is trying to find a girl to be with.

>>89644193
Western lesbians are shit! SHIT!

I don't want them even tangentially connected to /u/

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>>89652922
So he's trying to substitute an inner emptiness with an external source. The problem is that isn't a healthy relationship. That is a dependency. It isn't love; it's addiction.

Finn will not fill that void via external source. It is unfair to the other partner to be forced to act as a crutch for an emotionally impotent significant other. It won't work, and it hasn't worked.

>>89653233
no, he's experiencing normal human romantic desires

Why does everybody think Fern will cuck Finn with Huntress Wizard? I mean, yeah, Finn's flute song with grass hand is what attracted HW in the first place, but she still ended up liking Finn for Finn.

The way it's framed in the current show makes Fubblegum seem literally impossible to happen but because I'm a faggot who reads fanfiction there was a cool story that made it seem plausible
Marceline overthrew her had and became queen of the Nightosphere and made a deal with PB to defend the CK in exchange for a child (demon rules) and Marceline encouraged Bubblegum to get with Finn so they could be happy together and last time I checked they were dealing with a human colony that recently landed in Ooo (and this was written years before Islands)

That actually made Finn/PB seem possible but it was so divorced from the show I still think there's pretty much no chance they could work in canon

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I love that this episode BTFO shippers.

>>89653391
Because Fern is likely just as much of an exceptional beast as Finn is, perhaps even moreso since he has everything Finn had but even stronger grass shit powers. Only bad thing is that he can't breath to play the flute but who knows if that's that important for HW.

It really comes down to id HW is shallow enough to go for a new sexy grass Finn. Well I guess she would consider Fern to be sexy, she can morph into the ground and turns into a log when she sleeps so it seems like she would be down.

>>89653436
NO STOP IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>89653489

I think it's pretty clear that Fern and Finn are different enough that it wouldn't be an instant attraction. That assumes Fern would even be into HW.

>>89653654
Fern is just slightly earlier series Finn made of grass and with some identity issues, I think there's no reason to assume he wouldn't be as down to bang as regular Finn.

Or at least he won't be down to bang once he finds peace with his existence or whatever.

>>89653391
>>89653489
>>89653746
HW going out would Fern would mean she would stop being able to use magic.
Not going to happen.

>>89653861
What? How does that work?

>>89653889
Fear of stagnation is "what drove her to the mad and sad world of wizarding".
In order to use magic you have to either be crazy and/or depressed. Something that Betty noted in her research. "All wizards displayed a degree of madness and sadness."
Her being single is part of her dedication to magic.

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There is only one girl for Finn

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>>89654007
>episode is a metaphor for Finn masturbating by fucking pillows when he is alone
I can relate with that.

>>89654055
thanks for ruining the episode for me

There's a couple issues with Finn & HW, like the fact that she would most likely outlive him, if she get's deep in love with him she'll end up losing her wizard powers and become a normie which I doubt she wants either. If she falls in love with Fern she'll still end up a normie but they'd probably relate better since he's literally grass.

Speaking of Fern though, I feel like he got introduced pretty late, will he even do anything relevant or have his character resolved by the ending? I doubt they'll close up every loose plot point in the story and leave a lot of shit open ended. I still want to know the deal with Lemonhope out of anything though desu.

>>89654007
Too bad she never existed

>>89654265
>will he even do anything relevant or have his character resolved by the ending?

His entire existence is him finding an identity of his own, rather than being another Finn.

>>89654265
Fern and Finn will fuse into one being, and Ferinn will become one with the earth. I mean grass.
He'll become the ultimate protector of Ooo.

>>89654265
Yeah I'm weirded out by Fern too. I thought he was gonna be an antagonist that Finn would fight to resolve the grass curse plotline finally but instead he's just a new character to do shit with, and there's only like 30 eps left.

>>89654355
Well he has been shown to have a violent streak, and he's been left alone for 3 whole months on the main continent while Finn was away, who knows what finn will return to?

Finn's end game is obviously Tiffany.

>>89655126
But that would be gay.

>>89652994
>>>/a/

Will 32 episodes be enough to end the series properly? There's quite a few things that need proper endings.

>>89655784
In theory 30 episodes is plenty.

In reality they'll waste most of them on dumb unrelated bullshit or open up new plotlines, so no it won't be enough.

>>89655853
isn't there a film in the works.
Even if it's one of those tv specials that's only an hour and a half, that's like 8 AT episodes in one.

Bubblegum representes Finn's childhood and innocence, when he idolizes her over everything.

Flame princess is Finn's adolescence, he actually manages to have a relationship but ultimately fucks up due to immaturity.

Huntress Wizard is an adult relationship where Finn has the maturity to deal with romance stuff, such as letting her go when he knew shit was too complicate to develop into a proper relationsihp. She is endgame.

>>89655920
We haven't heard anything from that in ages, so the current accepted theory is that it fell through or got caught in development hell.

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>>89654007
>>89654055
I've said before and I still stick to it: Finn NEEDS a girl like Roselinen.

He keeps going after wild or powerful women that match his wild and adventurous nature.
But the truth is Finn needs a wife who will be there to reign in his wanderlust.

Someone calming to hold down the fort while her hero is off on a crazy adventure,
and then be there for him when he returns weary, with a warm lap to lay on and regain his humanity.

>>89656076
Puhoy was a great episode.

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Will Martin come back?

>>89656199
It would be pretty odd for them to give his character so much more depth if he never showed up again.
But it would also be equally as odd for them to back peddle on him being on a new plane of dimension. And what else would he do, apologize to Finn? Talk to Minerva? Not sure that would be worth rendering the end of his arc void.

I have no idea.

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>>89656199
maybe

>>89656286
Didn't that dream refer to king of ooo taking over?

>>89656460

Probably, but she kinda died in the end and the Kingdom literally went to shit in that drean, which still hasn't happened

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best thing about AT fanbase: that one small subset of Asian fans that always make the coolest Finn art
bless their slanty-eyed souls for existing

Fern's existence kinda disturbs me, it's literally /ourboy/ Finn, except with his job taken, and possibly mind-controlled by a grass curse (a detail which seems overlooked in this thread). He's forced to change his name, personality, and behavior because his role in the world is already fulfilled, by him, imagine having to deal with that yourself.

I really hope he overcomes the curse and merges back into himself, this shit is Ben Reilly all over again.

Real talk here, did they legitimize PB is a lesbian recently?

There's been a lot of he-said-she-said since "What was missing" and it's hard to take anything without an actual explaination since.

>>89650470
i forgot, when this was brought up?

>>89657370
It's not entirely canon but I feel like they're basically as close as they can get without full on having her and Marceline either announce they are/were dating or kiss or something.

>>89657370
No they didn't.

>>89644193
/u/ might like western lesbians sometimes but please don't associate tumblr with /u/

>>89657370
Marceline was openly mirin on Susan in the first Islands episode so that pretty much confirmed her as a lesbian, which I would take as confirmation for PB as well.

>>89657422
"Don't Look" when Finn got the curse of turning everyone he saw into what he saw them as, PB being"a teen boy heartthrob".

Also in that episode:
>Jake and Finn discussing the treasure which can change anything you want about yourself
>Jake says he'd change nothing and that he considers himself a complete package
>Finn says he'd like to be taller, about the same height as PB

This was a season 7 episode folks.

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So, Adventure Time is obviously a pretty lore heavy show, despite it's beginning as a fun, episodic series that wasn't too deep at first. Do you guys think that the writers had the lore planned out early on, or was it written in with the later seasons?

>>89657687
Early on they were fucking around, having fun, and throwing stuff at the wall to see what stuck. They weren't seriously plotting stuff out because they had no idea they were gonna get 9 goddamn seasons in total but I don't see why they wouldn't have been planning some stuff in advance just in case.

They made most of it up as they went though, while trying to connect it all to past episodes to create a (hopefully) seamless experience.

>>89657687
They clearly make shit up as they go along, sure, but when you have so many fucking hiatuses it's pretty clear eventually they came up with the full story.

I've just started watching AT (got to Power Animal currently). At what point does it turn into not about adventuring? It's really damn comfy so far.

>>89657370
I think legitimized Marcy as a lesbian but PB gives off this vibe that she doesn't really do relationships. Even Bubbline

>>89657687
In beginning?
Absolutely NOT. They were just having fun with the series making up things as they went without putting too much thought in it. Then when the series went on, they began to set some lore and build the world up more.

>>89657370
She's bisexual unless they retconned her previous attractions to men, that is.

>>89657787
It never really stops being about adventure but it branches out a whole lot, to other themes and characters too. You never realize how much the show used to focus on only Finn and Jake until you go back and watch season 1 and 2.

It never turns into just shipping or teen drama like some people say it does, but it focuses less on "Finn and Jake to to X new location to help Y character with Z problem" which was the usual format early on.

Hope you have fun with the show dude. If I could watch early seasons AT again with fresh eyes it would be such a treat.

>>89657787
Well some argue it's never not about adventures, it's more like the adventures get way less creative and more dramatic, but not in a good way, and when they are good they have an unsatisfying ending.

Nonetheless I would be lying if I said it isn't a rollercoaster worth riding.

>>89657687
Early, no. Later they threw shit all over and have been trying to bandage it together ever since.

Even now they have been trying to piece together old hints that led nowhere. Like the clock bear, for example.

>>89657882
Season 4 and 5 were a big LOW on adventure iirc

>>89656627
source?

>>89657821
nope, still bi

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>>89644112
I like when PB treats Finn like a younger brother of sorts.

Just give him a smeck on the cheek like the old days, damn it. Marceline can give him one too.

>>89658060
I can recall some pretty big "adventures" from those parts just off the dome piece
>Nightosphere episodes
>Goliad
>Beyond this earthly realm
>Gotcha
>Sons of Mars
>The hard easy
>Lich finale and season 5 opener

And season 5 was fucking huge, people don't look back on it too fondly but there was a bunch of episodes besides the break up arc and Red Throne and shit. Hell, in between Earth and Water and Red Throne there were like 10 adventure episodes.

I think it moved away from the classic adventures of its early lifetime but there was still lots of adventure to be had, all the way up until the present day

>>89657821
no no she was confused by patriarchy magic, I explain it in disturbing and autistic detail in my slash fic that should totally be considered truecannon because it is untainted by known alt-right supporting CN.

>>89658112
http://ftsartblog.tumblr.com/post/156776518871/precious-son

hasn't done much other AT work but I got hope they'll do more in the future

>>89657955
That's a relief, I'd heard it suffered a serious decline later on. F&J are a solid pair, so I hope the focus doesn't stray too far.

>Hope you have fun with the show dude.
Thanks man, loving it so far. It Came From The Nightosphere best ep.

>I've been meaning to ask, what's with the pocket?
>Oh, Jake's in there.

>>89657882
>Nonetheless I would be lying if I said it isn't a rollercoaster worth riding.
Excellent.

>>89658253
They're great and thankfully never really get worse, imo. Glad you're liking it, Nightosphere was great.

Gonna give you a fair warning: the show will probably do some shit that pisses you off. They make a lot of questionable story decisions a bi later down the line, but looking at it from the perspective of the show's lifespan they're not all that bad. It always seems worse than it is when it happens, but then later on it simmers down, ya know.

Careful about spoilers, if you care. Seems weird for the current point but the show really does open up a lot as it goes on.

>>89650470
why would he see her like that? She doesnt even fit into that cool girl buddy archetype, shes just all about science and that shit

>>89658155
But I'm talking about REAL adventure, like Dungeon Train !!!

>>89658321
>It always seems worse than it is when it happens, but then later on it simmers down, ya know
Thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind.

>Careful about spoilers, if you care.
In that case I'd better bail on this thread and watch more AT. Just started watching Crystals Have Power and I'm glad they've finally mentioned the fact that Treetrunks fucking died. That sudden explosion, shocked look and cut to credits caught me completely off-guard.

Thanks again, man!

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>>89658615
Glad to help my African compadre.

>>89653436
Probably... not. A few reasons:
1) Breezy (the Bee) would also be into Fern Mertens.
2) Huntress Wizard, while she did decide she wanted to focus more on, err, wizarding and Nature let's say?; she is still particularly a fan of Finn's flute playing. -With- his robot arm, not his grass arm. That's a good hint--but it's not 100% so I'm not completely confident.

>>89658144
Is Marceline also bi?

>>89656076
Finn just needs to stay euphoric about adventuring. He is enlightened by his own heroic alignment.

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>>89656076
A man needs a maid, a man needs a maid, a man needs a maid.

>>89659051
Is English not your first language or did you just flunk English class?

>>89659112
oh wait no, I thought that guy was talking about marceline.
PB's only been confirmed to have gone out with a man. Whether she's bi or not hasn't been solidified yet.

>>89659590
We literally met Marceline's Ex boyfriend in "memory of a memory" i think there both bisexual honestly.

>>89651945
>arcane religious practices.
I know, right? Normies and their fucking magical rituals and goat sacrifices.
The word you were looking for was archaic. Fucking pseudo-intellectuals I swear to god.

>>89659051
Would HW be willing to sacrifice her wizardry for Finn? The more I think about it, the more unlikely it seems, but it's clear that they haven't forgotten about her, so what direction would they take with her character otherwise?

>>89660177
I actually wouldn't be suprised to find out someone attempted to preform black magic to make their favorite ship canon

>>89660264
I perform the darkest magics to make my waifu real desu.

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>>89660205
Love is the strongest magic

>>89661351
>that face at the end

Lel

>>89656627
it's passing onto Fern so much, all you gotta do is make a angsty, confused dude made of grass with green hair and no one can resist em

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>>89662655
see: image I forgot to post like a retard

>>89653301

and he's doing that in a world where the majority of the girls aren't compatible with him.

wouldn't be surprised if marcy gives him a pity fuck every now and then.

his sexual frustration is only going to get worse.

>>89657370
I feel like What Was Missing permenantly changed AT for better or for worse

>>89657680
No, PB described herself as teenboy heartthrob. Finn sees her as a bro.
>Finn wants to be PB's height
So what?

>>89657796
Really? PB has opened up to Marceline and Marceline only, PB just isn't a very affectionate person in general. Also, in Broke His Crown, Simon asks Marcy,"So, you gotta boyfriend, yet?" and as Marceline is startled trying to answer, PB looks back and smiles when Marceline says 'no.' She also was very clearly emotional for Marceline in "Take Her Back." PB is shown to care for Marceline deeply, while it's Marceline that's the flirtatous type. PB also winked at Marcy in The Music Hole.

>>89657882
That format is still in effect even from the latest episodes.

>>89658011
The clock bear was in a premonition dream, so any explanation for him won't be obvious. Is that really the only example you can come up with? Was the clockbear even supposed to go anywhere? Ask yourself that.

>>89662793
>So what?

The fact that he explicitly mentions PB could mean that he has some kind of inferiority/self-image issues in their relationship and that he wants them to be equal, which would mean he considers her more important than he lets on. Baseless speculation of course, but it means *something*, even if it's just baiting fans, otherwise they could have just said taller, period.

>>89660074
If the two were to date, then they could be called bisexuals. We don't necessarily have concrete evidence for PB and Marcy having a hard on for eachother, because it can also mean they are best friends, which doesn't necessarily mean the former is true, vice versa.

>>89663007
it just means he still wants to plow her and he thinks he'll have a better shot at that if he's taller.

and he's right, manlets don't deserve to live. poor Finn, at least he isn't in denial over it like most manlets are.

>>89653489
Fernando confirmed for final boss
Finn needs HW and I can see a Finn on fern battle happening

>>89663007
Yes, but nothing romantic is suggested from that. He could just feel immasculated by standing next to a taller woman, which does not mean he has feelings for her.

>>89663060
But why would he think that if the culture for the man to be taller does not exist in Ooo. And also, men obsessing about their height is to be TALLER than the woman, not the same height.

>>89663071
I agree.

>>89663007
>"I want to be approximately 11.5 inches taller"
(The actual thing that matters)

>>89663107
they still got old movie and shit, cultural standard has probably been preserved.
and I think Finn was just going easy with it or something, probably wants to be taller to impress her but not like 8 feet or something, just better than he currently is to get her bubble juice churning ya dig.

>>89662713
>the majority of the girls aren't compatible with him.
I can't accept that as the canon explanation. It's too silly, his world is totally stuffed with females and his requirements SHOULD be simple. At this point I am forced to conclude he's a choosy beggar and it's his own fault.

Guys who are frustrated for too long shut off a part of their brains and become immune to 3DPD.

(why didn't he go after Susan in Islands?)

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>>89644112
He's not getting with PB, just accept this Fubblefags. The shows going to end next year with PB getting her pussy licked by Marceline and I'm going to have to listen to all your bitching when it's been pretty obvious they aren't going to date for some time now. Take note of how they planned for Marcy and PB to stand closer

>>89653233
so like, is this how the writers justify their virginity to themselves?

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>>89663148
>culture has been preserved by old movies

>>89663188
Have you ever thought that maybe Finn isn't actively searching for a love interest?

>>89663188
Finn has tunnel vision on princesses but the fact that he tried HW means he's expanding his range of plausible impregnation targets which is a good step.
And it's not like you can blame him that much, he met a girl who was fucking amazing (seemingly) when he was only 12 and it looked like he had a decent chance, then that fell through and he got someone else and that ended even worse than the first relationship did, then he spent a while getting over that and being depressed then he emerged on the other side being mostly content. Now I feel like he would totally be open to more casual dating stuff, maybe not right now but in another year or two.

And he didn't go for Susan because she smelled like shit and he was trying to find humans dude.

>>89663218
i mean, you're not wrong but the fact you're using "LOOK they're standing next to each other how can you beat that!!!" as irrefutable proof is retarded.

what else are they gonna do, have Fern stand in the middle? those bitches stand next to each other all the time.

>>89663218
Unless they show them kiss or whatever, its all just implied so basically worthless

Seeing how this show was ruined by shit writers, I want them to go the most bizarre way possible. I want Finn to be alone so much that everyone gets a pairing except him. Literally everyone, except Finn the human cuck.

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>>89663307
>they stand next to eachother all the time
That's the point

>>89663352
yeah so why were you citing that specific detail from Islands like it's the linchpin of anything.

they stand next to each other often, and if you wanna try really hard to not see them as a thing that's something best friends do too. so it doesn't ultimately prove anything.

>>89663188

>I can't accept that as the canon explanation

He's in a post-apocalyptic world with talking hotdogs and assorted breakfast.

At some point he's going to think that a mouth is a mouth.

>>89663262

I'd say he still is.

He's just learning not to look desperate and played it cool with HW.

>>89663309
Kissing just prove how far their relationship has gone, we don't need a kiss, we just need romance.
>shit writers
Islands quite clearly proved they have the capacity to make quality episodes, hell, season 7 should have proved this by now.

>>89663262
Maybe now, but he has an established deep burning need for a girlfriend (which is absolutely normal and fine and I don't know why people imply otherwise). It's been such a big part of his character that to suddenly drop it suggests more that he's given up in despair rather than that he's come to peace with it. You don't come to peace with this kind of thing especially when you're 16 and a virgin.

>>89663309
They're the same writers.

>>89663262
I mean he's not asking every woman he sees out on a date but there's nothing showing that he wouldn't still like to find someone.

The HW episode just shows he can handle himself getting rejected without lapsing into despair this time around. That doesn't mean he's going full chastity mode.

>>89663377
>actively seeking
This is different than if a girl approaches YOU and not denying her. He admitted his feelings to HW, and whether or not if he is trying to not appear desperate is claim without evidence. Being a possibility does not mean it is a likely possibility

>>89663373
>doesn't prove anything
It proves the writers intend good and well for them to be close, in both an emotional and physical context.

>>89663460
yes, which doesn't prove they are/were dating, which means jack shit because we're speaking specifically about the dating part of that.

they have to push harder for it to be 100% undeniable canon.

>>89663407
>has an established need for a girlfriend
As evidenced by?

>sudden drop is suggest
Love Games quite clearly explained that Finn wants to go back to focusing on being a hero in lieu of girlfriends.

>you dont come to peace
Except he has, and it has been demonstrated thaf he has throughout the show: he isn't making any moves on any women.

>>89663411
You're right it doesn't, but opposite isn't true as a result of this fact.

>>89663488
>doesn't prove they are dating
I think having an attraction is what matters more

>>89648997
yes we do. now shaddup

>>89663577
standing next to someone does not mean you are attracted to them, it means you're standing next to them.

come on dude, I think Bubbline is gonna stay unsunk but this 'evidence' is showing they're good gal pals at best.

https://youtu.be/D8E_jtl-v1s
THE NUMBERS MASON

>>89663602
Do you think this is the only evidence used? I could fill up two whole replies as an argument for why them being together has been justified.

Did PB see Marceline's reaction to Susan's built body? If so, did she address it in any way?

>>89663602
>being someones best friend and romantic partner are exclusive.
It proves both possibilities

>>89663652
I was originally speaking about this >>89663218 where you were acting like them standing together is proof that it's happening. that's just stupid and you sound like a deluded shipper or something.

there's a lot more proof than that, most of which is much more legitimate, I was just pointing out how you were pretty silly in that one post.

>>89645135
>dvd sales in 2016-2017
>CN
pick one

>>89663524
>As evidenced by?
are you really asking? by his going after girls and being horny, you silly. and being *extremely* depressed and/or neurotic when girls dump him.

I know the writers like to insist that he's cool being alone now, but that's so incompatible with the 'desperate for love' part of him that's it's totally unbelievable. It makes it seem more like he's simply repressing his needs. What you are saying is canonically correct, though, I guess.

He's waiting until PB decides he's old enough and calls for him.

>>89663668
No, but PB was probably thinking about how nice it is of Marceline to let her borrow her jacket. Also, why do you guys ignore the fact that Marcy was checking out PB, and even showed sadness when she hugged Finn?

>>89663685
This assume I intended that to be the only evidence

>>89663746
I don't know what you're typing before you type it so fair point

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>>89663668
Nah, but Marceline looked pretty jelly when PB hugged Finn.

>>89663717
That part of Finn has been written out since season 6, so start watching relevant episodes and quit pretending your opinion matters when you can't work with relevant evidence.

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>>89663218
>>89663778
petty bubblinefags you know it to be true

>>89663802

TOO YOUNG

AND

TOO OLD

>>89663790
I hate that IM going to HAVE to listen to Fubblefag tears when the series finale airs

>>89663717
Why do people assume that because Finn went some time without asking a girl out he's totally celibate or something?

He tried some stuff with girls, it all failed horribly, he was pretty torn up over it. He got a bit better, tried again with some new girl, it didn't work either but he handled it better, then he spent some time not worrying over girls.

He does still want someone, he is still horny, he's just doing other shit. With all the damn maturity shit the show shoved down the audience's throats Finn realizing that his romance shit has been horrendous for him and taking it easy for a while is very believable.

>>89663802
I don't give a damn about shipping, I'm just giving my honest analysis.

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>>89663815
>>89663828
CRASHING THIS SHOW WITH NO SURVIVORS

>>89663828
was meant for >>89663802

>>89663790
So your argument is that the character isn't consistent? Can't argue with that, you're right.

I'm just trying to interpret it as if it made sense.

>>89663834
>why do people assume that because he has gone some time without asking a girl out he's celebate or something?
Because he's currently practicing celebacy? Why do you assume he is horny? Jake shelters him so he doesn't understand the sexual urges he should have

I just want finn to chew on some of PBs bubblegum before the show ends, make it happen

>>89663877
Fubblegum has been dead for a looong time dude, get over it.

>>89663877
>isn't consistent
No it's consistent, it's that characters have the capacity to change

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>>89663845

>this one fubblegumfag who won't shut up even though there is literally no way in hell his ship will ever happen

And then you just reply with things like "lol ur mad" and "i-it'll happen just wait"

>>89663928

hasn't she been around a lot of radiation?

>>89663834
what's funny to me is the idea that he's somehow mature enough to not be bitter about this shit one bit. maturity isn't magic.

>>89663920
>Because he's currently practicing celibacy?
Show me literally any proof of this. He's not, he's just taking a break from going after girls.

And Finn is 16 right now, there's no way Jake's been hiding what jerking off is from him after all this time. I bet him finally figuring out the right way to do it is part of the reason he seems so chill right now (and apparently you consider that being celibate which is ridiculous).

>>89663942
This, we live in the era of bubbline now
Fubblefags, when will they learn?

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>>89663958
I have such high confidence is all!

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>>89663920

>he's currently practicing celebacy

wat

>>89663972
Bitter over what? It was his fault, really. Well I mean I guess PB did lead him on a little, but he still fucked up harder. I feel like after shit like the Comet he wouldn't be bitter at his lot in life, he seems really content to take the good with the bad.

Finn rolls with the punches and puts a smile on even if he feels bad inside, that's how the kid works.

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When are we getting new episodes?

>>89664033
I saw something like late February so we got a break. Not too terrible as far as AT hiatuses go.

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>>89663975
>he's just taking a break from dating girls
Nigger do you not know what celibacy is?

>>89663975
boys don't grow up without learning how to jerk off. it's impossible.

it doesn't necessarily do much to kill the urge for real pussy, though.

Wouldnt it be better if finn, pb and marceline were actually in a love triangle

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>>89644840
>flame princess with bedhair

>>89664000
See here >>89664065

>>89664080
Please leave.

>>89664065
Why do you think him taking a break means he's abstaining?
Usually you don't just go "I'm gonna be celibate for a lil bit" it's an all or nothing thing and there's nothing hinting that that's what Finn's doing.

>>89664100
It would be better than constant whining about who's belonging to whom

>>89664105
This implies Finn intends to date again, which is why I said "currently practicing," as there is no gurantee he will forver remain celibate

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>>89664090

I know what celibacy is, I just think you're exaggerating

>>89664179
That's fucking stupid. Just because you aren't dating someone or actively looking for someone doesn't mean you're celibate, if Finn found someone he liked and it was a good opportunity to try to start something off there is no reason he wouldn't go for it, that's not celibacy dude.

>>89664131
bubblinefags only want the two girls scissoring by themselves they're allergic to Finncock

>>89664079

does finn even know what a vagina looks like?

>>89664221
>Marceline's Closet
maybe it wasn't a vag but it was close enough

>>89644112
If you look at what the show has become. The type of people they pander to. He won't win in anything.

>>89664206
Which doesn't mean he isn't actively seeking (my original point)

>>89664221
>implying Finn's mom didn't teach him all about human anatomy when he was on the Island.

>>89664256
And that doesn't mean he's celibate.

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>>89664250
>wahh pander to heterosexuals not homosexuals
Get a load of this guy

>>89644112
no because the people running the show are all tumblr fans thta somehow got hired and they all hate finn/bubblegum and are all about marceline/bubblegum even tho the network says no

>>89664296
Maybe because homos are actually a small percent you fucking fag

>>89664308
Moynihan storyboarded Sky Witch. Fuck, even Pendleton Ward got a writing credit on Varmints. The original crew is pushing it too pal.

>>89644363
honestly is there any character thats still likable in this show? fanboys dont reply, just go back to tumblr

>>89664308
Adam Muto's been around for quite some time. Have you forgotten about Natasha, who drew bubbline fan art, on multiple occasions? Or fucking Rebecca Sugar?

>>89664356
Pretty much every one except Bubblegum sometimes.
What makes you think any of them aren't likable, let alone all of them? Actually curious.

>>89664014
For repeatedly not getting something he really wants and has no control over wanting. He's not really at fault for that. But even if he was at fault, that doesn't mean he would automatically stop feeling frustrated because that's what's logical. He's a kid not a robot.

Basically the problem is sometimes he's normal and average and other times he's superhuman. His behavior in a normal kid would probably signify hidden emotional problems. He himself might be actually fine though.

>>89664322
>pandering
This implies you know their intent, why can't two people be written close and their sexuality being irrelevant?

>>89657687
I think after "Business Time" they decided that they wanted Adventure Time to be post-apocalyptic

>>89644387
its been consistenly getting worse every year yes

>>89664403
I think that inconsistency in Finn's status is a legit problem but I don't think it applies here that much.'
Finn didn't get what he wanted but he doesn't need it right away and he has no reason to think things won't work out in the future so he's taking it easy. Works for me though I can see your points.

>>89664437
They said 'constant.' The writing staff hasn't changed much since the early days. There seems to be this myth where because the show changed so much, there must've been a big change in staff, but it's not true.

>>89664403
I honestly do think he's got bottled up emotions deep within him but it looks like the show won't touch upon that lane.

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>>89664420
Don't listen to Frederator; they just take trivia from wikis, not official sources. They wrote the show as post apoctalyptic and just explained the lore behind it later on

>>89664528
Pen did less and less shit and people like somvilay xayaphone were given more power. That made show worse.

>>89664544
that's no info from Frederator, Pen himself said that once, forget when though.

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>>89664437
>season 6 was better than 7 and 8

>>89664559
No he didn't, it was from Frederator. One of their 107 Facts about AT videos

>>89648864
>they seem like they're at that point now
>yeah it's my boat
>literally being told off by Marcy queen of no fucks given for not giving a fuck about them leaving
WEW LADDO

>>89664598
and they came up with that because Pen said it first, years before they made that video dummy. how new are you?

>>89664549
>storyboaders have always been given creative freedom
>write episodes the fans the dont like and suddenly they not have all the power
>thinking the show runner has every say
If that was the case why would he need them?

>>89664620
No, they took it from the Adventure Time wikia. They didn't interview Pen and post a video

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>>89664322
I never stated I wanted them to pander to anyone. I am stating that they have blatantly pandered and because of this we can assume the direction of the show.

Finns happiness is not the main prerogative of the show. It never really has been. One could even say that for a good while adventuring wasn't even the focus. They know what sells. At this point I honestly think it will end this way:

>Martin comes back
>Martin gets his memories back or something
>Big party.
>Finn and Jake run off into the sunset to another adventure.

Nothing will change for Finn. No advancement. All of the other characters will and I bet they will have a focus on it too.

Credits roll. Shows images of all the other character and how their lives changed in the future with focus on Marceline's and Bubblegum's science buttbaby.

>>89664648
he still said it first dude, they don't have to interview him to get information that was already widely known.

>>89664612
>cherrypicking

Yeah, and then straight afterwards she has a heart to heart, and tells him to be careful and come home safely.

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>>89664612
>tfw its true

>>89664658
>Shows images of all the other character and how their lives changed in the future with focus on Marceline's and Bubblegum's science buttbaby.
delet your post and your life carl

>>89664381
finn doesnt go on adventures anymore, and when he does it sucks because writers cant write finn, there is always the growing up excuse but that didnt fly in harry potter when it went from happy wizard kid in magic mistery school to angsty teenager listens to linking park and cuts himself the same way it doesnt work when happy care free fantasy land boy goes in adventures turns into teeager mops about girl who doesnt pay him attention and wathever flame princess was.
tl dr writers werent good enough to age fin

jake for me got ruined with jake the dad, its clear that they are going nowhere with him, sure the pups shw up all the time now but seriously fuck you too little too late

bubblegum was suppossed to be the character who does bad things for semingly good reasons, she kind of did, kind of didnt. She is mostly stuck in limbo really, she is also now really cold for some reason

marceline got completely redesigned and has no place in the show

ice king is just there, since there is no more action in the show there is no reason for him to do anything interesting at all, when characters complained about ce king being lame it was the characters, i liked seeing ice king do wathever in the show even if he was being stupid instead of crazy, now when he shows up i think its lame

whats left? thats the main cast

>>89663834
If only the show wouldn't push casual sex as wrong he'd be much better off by now. Marceline is right fucking there. This does not have to be such a huge goddamn deal. I swear to god they're going to imply he lost his virginity to his wife.

>>89664673
>the wikia is a reliable force without any inaccuracies
>the wikia says it therefor it is true
Half of the shit on wikia doesn't even have a citation.