Which new character is the biggest failure that will end up being

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> end up
> not "already has been forgotten"

Also, everyone in Avengers Academy

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>>89626903
pic related kinda

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>>89626869

This whole mess

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Hell, I don't see any of the Marvel Nower characters being a thing in a year!

>>89626869

She's the smartest human on earth! How can she be forgotten!

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Do simpsons characters count?

>>89627094
>She's the smartest human on earth!

I don't believe that I have heard this like at all, let alone reading a source about it

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>>89626932
idk why american comic hard women bodies can't please me like japanese

>>89627176

Funny, I can't pass behind the shitty same faces in manga, I just can't seem to see the appeal

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>>89626989
>>89627022
fuck you, do your part to save gwens life, buy her comic.

newsarama /30407-marvel-wants-you-to-know-moon-girl-is-the-smartest-person-in-the-marvel-universe.html

cbr /montclare-reeder-explain-how-moon-girl-became-the-smartest-person-in-the-marvel-u/


you were saying? you smug piece of shit.

>>89627160

newsarama /30407-marvel-wants-you-to-know-moon-girl-is-the-smartest-person-in-the-marvel-universe.html

cbr /montclare-reeder-explain-how-moon-girl-became-the-smartest-person-in-the-marvel-u/


you were saying? you smug piece of shit.

>>89626869
All the gwen characters

>>89627217

Is gwenpool even a good book? Is about Gwen Stacy fighting crime?

>>89627094
>She's the smartest human on earth!
Technically she's an inhuman.

How about tha team with random robins?

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>>89627402
10/10 post anon

>>89627340

it was a joke anon, as in ''everybody is sick about that shit'' kind of thing

>>89627402
>Is gwenpool even a good book?
Easily one of Marvel's best currently running books. Highly recommend it.

>Is about Gwen Stacy fighting crime?
Gwenpool isn't Gwen Stacey. Her name's Gwen Poole, and the only similarities she has with Gwen Stacey are the same first name and blonde hair.

>>89627453

nice goal post moving, asshole.

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>>89626869
That ass thought

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>>89627479
>it was a joke
>nice goal post moving

????

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>>89627428
They dead i think

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Honestly. At this point...

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It hurts

Kid Apoc is probably going to be forgotten like 97% of X-kids

>>89626869
Most, if not all the nuhumans

>>89627753
Like hope being huge just to be forgotten like a month later

>>89627807
what did happen to Hope, like where is she?

>>89627433
>GWEN stacy deadPOOL

Gee, I wonder where did I got the idea

>>89627457
>the only similarities she has with Gwen Stacey are the same first name and blonde hair.

Then why bother calling her that??

>>89627659

Has she ever being shown in the New 52?

>>89627853
asking if Gwen Poole is Gwen Stacy is a popular shitposting tactic in Gwenpool threads.

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Any. Marvel cartoon really

>>89628039
I don't think that it has

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Be real they're as good as gone in like 4 years tops

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>>89628074
>asking if Gwen Poole is Gwen Stacy is a popular shitposting tactic in Gwenpool threads.

Oh you are one of those spergs

>>89628100
> Xavier School having uniforms

That artist really missed the point of the X-Men.

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>>89626869

>pleb not knowing Devil has been around for ages and was created by Jack fucking Kirby

Yeah, okay, Moon Girl. I like the concept. There's a lot of potential for character development for a little girl who is insanely brilliant but understands very little of the real world.

You know what new character needs to be forgotten and never be seen again?

>>89627406

Oshit.

>>89627479

What is so interesting about Lunella that you feel the need to jump up and defend her?

>>89627803

Minus the only GOOD ONE, you know which one

R-right???

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>>89628233
Umm, Anon?

>>89628200

...Where IS Superboy, anyway??

>>89628285
Ugh, Wolverine and the X-men was when Marvel was still making food comics, I member!

>>89628253

Mosaic?

>>89628306


He is dead, Jim.

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>>89628253
Yeah, Iso will be fine.

>>89628253
reader will be okay, thankfully

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>>89628334
>Mosaic?

Wasted potential, the character.

Whor

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>make a new character
>call her an inhuman

Why do they do this? It's popularity suicide

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Mohammed Ali of course

>>89627884
>Then why bother calling her that??
Meta-jokes, mostly. But also because the thing that led to her creation was:
>Spider-gwen becomes popular
>as a joke, Marvel does a "Gwen" variant cover month where Gwen replaces every major character on the cover (like the X-Gwens, Gweneto, the Gwenvengers, etc.)
>the Deadpool cover does "Gwenpool"
>that cover ends up being really popular and people start to cosplay as "Gwenpool"
>Marvel decides to cash-in on the popularity and make Gwenpool an actual character
>the actual character has nothing to do with Gwen Stacey though and just re-uses the design from that cover

>>89628285
Shark Girl looks cute there.

>>89628368
They just had an issue where the obligatory famous character crossover was justified via the character learning about themselves, I'd say Mosiac is actually doing really well.

>>89628246

>What is so interesting about Lunella that you feel the need to jump up and defend her?

fuck off shill youre the one defending her not me

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Every mutant from now on. Holy fucking ducking shit

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>>89628514
Sharktits looks cute everywhere.

>>89628549
>>What is so interesting about Lunella that you feel the need to jump up and defend her?

black loli ass

>>89628368
>Wasted potential
Eh, his comic is about as good as I'd expect from "asshole pro basketball player becomes Deadman."

>>89628535
>I'd say Mosiac is actually doing really well.

Somebody post that image, you know the one

>>89628535
Kek

>>89627884
Wasn't the idea that she combined too very popular characters to ensure her own popularity.

Gwen's from our world, she's like the Superboy Prime of marvel

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Her HUGE character development was forgotten

>>89628200
I mean, Damian's already been around for over a decade (even the Morrison version) and he seems to only be getting more and more popular

>>89628343

...H-how did he die?

>>89628368

It's brand new. How can it have wasted anything? And it's pretty enjoyable so far.

>>89628426

From your mouth to Allah's ear.

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>>89628757
nah, it was just a gwen stacy variant for deadpools book, in her own she had zero input on her costume design or name.

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>>89628757
>Gwen's from our world, she's like the Superboy Prime of marvel

But without the talent behind what made Superboy Prime oh so memorable.

Superboy Prime was about going full retard while Gwenpool is bland and safe/boring

>>89628309
I believe this was actually from the "Spider-man and the X-men" mini, which was actually grwat

>>89628796
>It's brand new. How can it have wasted anything?

Because it was a good concept wasted on a terrible writter using google translate to use spanish lines and then not even attempting to that for other languages like Corean.

It feels forced, like the writter is doing homework rather than telling and developing a story

>>89628549

But you posted this. >>89627340

Wasn't that meant to back up the claim about Lunella being the smartest person on Earth?

A claim, by the way, based ONLY on her mathematical brilliance.

You are wayyyyy too upset about this.

>>89628757

I wonder whether they'll have the balls to actually kill her off.

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Whatever happened to him?

>>89628891
He died in the very run you're posting a cover from.

>>89627402
No, it's pretty shit, the art is the only good thing about it.

>>89628909
whaaaaaat???? I knew that he ''died'' by drill to the brain or something, but was that the last time that he was used?

Really??? Is marvel so affraid of being called racist that Iron Man's Joker get shelved for like 8 years at this point???

>>89629006
>was that the last time that he was used?

Yes. Braindead, though, so he'll be back.

But for now, thanks to Fraction, he's pretty much toxic.

It's only been about four-and-a-half years, btw.

>>89628805
>in her own she had zero input on her costume design or name.

That's what I find baffling, that she was with the ''costume creator expert'' that has worked with tons of heroes and she creates her costume based on her name, not her powers or lack of, anything.

Just on her name.

That's what I hate about Hackstings or whatever the hell he is called, is one of those ''fuck common logic as long as I get to make a joke!''

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I hope he's gone soon.

>>89627884
Because the origination of her character concept was Gwen Stacy dressed as Deadpool

Hastings took a fucking retarded concept and made it into something enjoyable.

>>89626869
The Joker's Daughter.

>>89629204
>Hastings took a fucking retarded concept and made it into something enjoyable.

Isn't that the same book that loses sales the moment they change artists?

>>89629260
Yeah. Gotta admit, Gurihiru is probably a massive draw there. The other artists aren't BAD usually but the contrast makes it look bad

>>89629148
>that has worked with tons of heroes
you're missing the real joke anon, Ronnie is a hack that hasnt worked on shit, so her terrible design choices based solely on a similarity to deadpools name makes perfect sense.

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He will never be, Bendis!

>>89629176
What, just for the GotG to be again forgotten or worse, getting BENDIS-ed?

If anything, the fact both Richard and Sam work as a team in the new Nova book is proof that you can have both.

Unless you're one of those Dick-Rider/DnA fags, of course.

>>89629406
Never read any of Dick's shit, I just don't like Sam and want him gone, he was a mistake like this nigger >>89629362 .

>>89628200

Nah Damian will stay. Jon maybe depends how Super Sons will doing.

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>>89626869
Read for the Dinosaur, left because of the brat.

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>>89628200
get a load of this guy

>>89629148
>worked with tons of heroes
The only actual hero that we know she's designed a costume for is Daredevil. The Spider-man and Captain Marvel quotes were fake, and we've never seen anyone else aside from Gwen and randos shop at Ronnie's. She likely sells her costumes to z-listers.

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>>89629794
all black girls are my fetish so that's fine by me

>>89629451
Nah, Miles is the bigger mistake, because unlike Sam, Miles hasn't been written in a good way by other wirters.

>>89629893
Sam has actively made every book he's appeared in worse.

>>89629966
Even Champions?

>>89629966
Factually incorrect. In most of the books he's appeared in, he's one of the few good things propping up an otherwise shit comic.

That's Miles Morales once Bendis leaves, or dies, or is killed, whichever happens first.

>>89629999
Yes
>>89630006
This is just plain wrong, why are Samfags so deluded? He was the worst part of New Warriors, he's bad in Champions, he was bad in ANAD Avengers, he's been bad in every cross-over, he was shit in both of his own Nova volumes, and the current Nova book would be 10x better if he wasn't there.

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>>89630006

>>89630072
Oh god you're one of those lunatics who posts on forums where they call him NINO and shit aren't you? Fuckin oath

>>89630093
No, I don't give a shit about who has the Nova name, that'd retarded since as far as I can tell they're Marvel's Green Lantern Corps. Sam is just a shitty boring character.

>>89627402
i think her book is pretty cool. i don't read comics very often but i like it.

>>89626869
how old is this girl and why is marvel sexualizing children?

>>89630192
>reverse image search
>real cover comes up
You can't be this incompetent, Anon.

>>89630006
>the autistic samfag strikes again

>>89627402
>Idiots still think gwenpool is Gwen Stacy

Every time.

>>89628450
Also liking is far easier than retweeting. Liking a post is akin to saying "I fucking like you", retweeting dumb shit constantly makes you a bitch to follow so smart people don't retweet garbage.

>>89630286
Those polls were carried by the X-Men brand. There's no fucking way BlackBolt legitimately can lose to Dazzler in a popularity contest.

>>89630221
Why would you reverse image search? 4chan is a board of peace and would never lie.

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>>89626903
>Also, everyone in Avengers Academy
You can thank Hopeless for that
How was this allowed?

>>89628253
>Reader
>Triton
>Gorgon
>Flint

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>>89630221
first time doing edits, its fun

>People posting Miles and Damien
Lol normies know them. They are probably the most popular "new" characters

>>89629362
>forgotten
Know you like getting triggered over this nigga and shit but do you know how many years it's been?

>>89626869
Tumblr Wasp is going to be memoryholed harder than Rita DeMara was.

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already happening

Dakken.

>>89626869
that's no way for a child to dress

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She's clinging on to life. I don't see why Marvel won't make a mini series or something, they're all about teen girl legacy characters right now.

>>89631712
>It's the Gwenpool_Unmasked.jpg shitposter

>>89632890
I kind of like it, we need more brown lolis around

>>89629799
And Dr. Strange.

>>89627176
saus plz

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>>89632890
this is /co/...

>>89630243
I so, so, so wanted New Warriors to do well, but it was so inaccessible that I new it would fail.

Still sucks.

>>89627523
She's like 9 or something.

>>89627659
Nobody's forgotten about her, it's just that DC has the same deal with Gaiman and the Sandman characters that they have with Robinson and Jack Knight where they could use them if they wanted to but don't do it out of respect for the writer. Cornell explicitly got Gaiman's permission to use her Action Comics though.

>>89628757
In-story she's called that because the costume maker heard "Gwen Poole" and thought it was "Gwenpool".

>>89634407
Anon balck people were made to breed

>>89626869
All of Marvel for the last decade

>>89630243
Was that amulet thing shopped in?

>>89628783
>Damian
>popular

Literally everyone hates him

>>89626869
What's so great about this moongirl character anyway?
"oh she's the absolute most smartest person in the world, that's all"
give me a fucking break

>>89634896
Only people that don't read comics.

Damian was under character development since Morrison's "Batman and Robin". That is more than YAAS QUEEN!

>>89634545
>black people were made
get a load of this clown. I bet you think the earth is only 6k old, too. No wonder you hate your fellow humans so much; You're a moron.

>>89635341
I want to know if she's actually done anything smart, or do they just keep saying she's smart to shove the issue down everyone's throats without bothering to show it?

>>89635457
see that's my fucking problem.
let's be honest, this characters was just made to pander to sjw's who don't even read comics.

>>89635341
Her books alright. Nothing special, probably wouldn't buy it.

Honestly it would be a lot more tolerable if Marvel wouldn't keep pushing it. It's like someone telling you over and over and over about how great something is until you hate it

>>89635457
>>89635525
Before he died, Banner made a logic puzzle. One so difficult he himself couldn't solve it. She managed to solve it.

Banner is dead, Reeds is assumed dead (we know, the Marvel world doesn't), Pym is off being a robit.

The only people around that level of brain power left are Doom and arguably Stark (who is now in a coma)

So the only possible challenger at the moment is Doom. This is why she is the smartest. It's fucking annoying they keep tooting that horn, but that is how it is.

If Reeds comes back and they go on about how she's smarter then him, THAT'S when I am calling utter bullshit.

>>89630803
Not even a decade.
Dark Hawk was around for longer and guess how many give a shit about him now.
And he keeps appearing thanks to Bendis, who hopefully won't be around for long himself.

>>89635419
>criticize people that don't read comics
>then turn around and reveal you don't read comics

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>>89626932
Did I ever tell you about Firestar?

She used to work with Spiderman, and the Avengers.

She was an Amazing Friend

>>89635569
well now that you explained it, it sure does sound like.
so banner and reed are dead huh?
that's clearly being used as a plot armor to say that she's that smartest person in the world, at least smartest living person.

>>89633277
Ah right, and Dr. Strange.

>>89635457
Her being "the smartest person on earth" wasn't even brought up in her own comic until a dozen issues in. In fact, it was announced in a press release before it was brought up in the comic itself.

>>89635684
>Carolfag got offended, like usual.

>>89631712
Gwenpoole is very fuckable.

>>89635694
Banner is dead, Reed is "dead"

Reed basically has omnipotence at the moment and is rebuilding the multiverse along with his immediate family (which also removed Valeria from the list of smarties)

Pretty much only Doom knows this, everyone else assumes he is gone.

I don't think the reason he is gone and Banner is dead is to make her the smartest. I think that was just an opportunity thing. Reed in particular seemed like the result of the movie issues it's convoluted, but basically FF were unwanted because they didn't have the movie rights. Now Marvel comics is kept out of Marvel movies, there is no reason for the CEO to want them out

Stark is being replaced by Riri, Banner has a replacement in Cho.

>>89635694
Technically, Reed isn't dead. He just became God of the Multiverse. Everyone on Earth assumes he's dead though because they aren't privy to that fact.

But yeah, as far as the characters in-universe are concerned:
>Banner: Dead
>Pym: Dead
>Reed: Dead
>Stark: Coma
>Doom: disappeared for ~8 months and didn't re-enter the public eye until after Lunella had been given the title "smartest person on Earth"
And even though Lunella has the raw intellect to make her the world's smartest person, she doesn't have the knowledge to apply it. Her only education comes from a shitty public school and whatever small amount of self-teaching she could do.

>>89635830
And Pym has a replacement in Nadia.

>>89635830

but Stark says RiRi is smarter than him.

and Cho was in the top10.

so they're still saying shes smarter than Riri, Stark, Doom, Cho, Pym, Leader, Mad Thinker, all those guys.

>>89635931
Pym is still around though, he's just going beep boop
I think I would consider Nadia a replacement Wasp, although she seems halfway between Pym and Wasp.

>>89635959
Thing is that, like Reed, the people in-universe think he's dead. Even if you accept the fact that Pymtron is still Pym despite being fused with Ultron, the last they saw him, they were throwing him into the sun with no way out. It's only we as readers that know that he shrunk down small enough with his pym particles that he survived and is waiting for a solar flare to jettison him out of the sun.

>>89635957
Cho couldn't solve the BannerBox and was the person that presented it to her in the first place, and yeah, she's smarter than Riri. In Riri's appearance in Moon-Girl's book, Riri tries to talk down to Lunella and she calls her out on it. Nice to see someone put a Bendis OC in their place every now and then.

>>89635957
Leader and Mad Thinker don't count on those lists. Something to do with altered intelligence or something.

It was

>Reed
>Doom
>Pym
>Banner
>Stark
>T'Challa
>Beast
>Cho

Everything between Doom and Cho is sort of arguable, including Pym.

Now it's

>Moon Girl
>Doom
>Riri
>Blue Marvel
>Nadia
>T'Challa
>Beast
>Cho

Again, basically everything between Doom and Cho is arguable. I just slapped everyone in there.

>>89635996
I wasn't considering the argument for in-universe knowledge when I mentioned the replacements. Those are for us.

In universe, Nadia is solely a replacement for Wasp. They don't use any of Pym's names/titles for her

>>89627739
Prime Time is coming, I promise.

>>89635824
Literally every female drawn by Gurihiru is. He suffers from same-face syndrome, but I don't even come close to giving a shit.

>>89636290

>he

Gurihiru is two middle aged Japanese women

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So basically if you're a bitch nigger your IQ is +200?

Marlelverse is a silly place.

>>89632997
I don't think Mania fits in this thread. Mania never really had the chance to be a failure. She never got a push by Marvel in any way so there was no fall, so to speak.

>>89628306

Locked up by Dr. Oz next to Bart and Tim.

>>89628816
>he continues to pretend that he has read gwenpoole

>>89638423
>>he continues to pretend that he has read gwenpoole

According to sales numbers, nobody reads Gwenpool

>>89626903
>pic related
that's the point

>>89628579

Black loli ass is good, I just wish her personality was better and her comic didn't crossover with these other heroes I don't give a shit about.

I think it would have been better if the comic was about Moon Girl traveling to the past and meeting DD instead of Devil Dino getting sent to the present.

>>89627340
Calm down sperg. You must be the worst person to be around.

>>89639959
Moon Girl is aimed at 8 years old girls.

>>89627402
Not very good (imo)

>>89626869
Is this real life? They took a character who was a monkey and updated them as a black girl?

>>89627592
Except for Duke, who just won't fucking go.

>>89635902
What about T'Challa and Blue Marvel?

>>89626869
All of the minority women with inexplicably high intelligence.

>>89628200
Damian is permanent but I can see Jon being fake or getting retconned out in the next Crisis event

>>89640023
8 year old girls don't like adventures in prehistoric dino times?

>>89630438
>How was this allowed?
Because Marvel under Brevoort operates under the mindset of angry fans = high sales.
It's good to show contempt for your audience.

>>89633310
its a manga where an evil tyrant woman develops a crush on her arch rival superhero.

I cant for my life remember what its called

>>89633310
>>89641606
Black General, can find it on batoto

It's by Jin, who also did the Daily Life of a Friendly Orc comic about the lewd elf and the bro orc.

>>89628796
He flew into a wall inside a hologram.

Not even meming.

>>89641485
>Sales crawl ever lower while DCs has recovered simply by giving fans what they want.
Great strategy buckaroos.

>>89634485
>they could use them if they wanted to but don't do it out of respect for the writer
Why doesn't this expand to Alan Moore's characters? Is it because of his hissy fits at DC as a whole?

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Kenan