So >Harley beat up a guy almost to death >stripped his

>>89594906
>strong independent womyn taking charge

>>89594906
SJWs don't read comics.
They get sent specific pages with no context and then complain about them.

>>89594934

I think they just read Gail Simone's twitter and get mad about whatever she's mad about at any given moment.

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>>89594934
>>89594979
Most didn't even understand what was going on.

>>89594999
This is true, one reviewer didn't know what was going on because she couldn't understand Harley's dialogue

People are very hypocritical when it comes to Harley, or female characters in general.

I'm disappointed that we didn't get a detailed description of the Joker's dick though.

>>89595371
Palmiotti makes her speak like a retard.

>>89594906

>sjws
>getting mad over death of a straight white male

oh anon, you're so new.

>>89595416
I agree. He puts so many random words into her dialogue that I don't think some of those words are even real words

>>89594906
"It's OK if a woman does it" mentality.

>>89595418
EEEXCUSE ME, the JOKER identifies as a CLOWN, and is the duly deputized Ambassador from IRAN to the UN.

Check your privilege.

>>89594906
Because they don't care. Contrary at what this thread says, most SJWs dropped the book for various reasons

>>89595493
SJW's dont care about comics or videogames or /stuff/ in general most of the time.

I dont wanna be generalizing, but I -feel- that they go where there's drama and ways to virtue signal, and if comics-videogames, ect is where they go, they go, and get involved, like chameleons, temporarily, and then, move on.

It's happened a lot.
A lot of LBGTQ+ and SJW friendly titles and stuff just die really fast, and the authors complain.

https://popcultureuncovered.com/2016/04/18/comics-youve-got-your-diversity-so-why-dont-you-buy-them/

https://archive.is/QcEme

>>89595527
That's what Marvel fails to understand - that people who blog about comics online are not the same people who actually spend money on them.

>>89594906
Because you say so. You want to feel oppressed by imagined sexism, so you've decided that no one would ever complain about this, asked "why not", and in all likelihood decided to answer that question for yourself.

An appropriate follow-up question would be, when people complain about this sort of thing happening to a woman, why do you attempt to shout them down, and why are you flip-flopping now?

>>89595527
This one SJW I know used to buy the book but don't anymore since she realized that it was a waste of time and money because of how Palmiotti treated Ivy and the Harley/Ivy ship

>>89594906
Because Harley is a bad girl and she Killed the one who dared to pretend to be her precious Mr. J.

Make sense to me.

>>89594906

I just think Harley is a shit character in general. Liked her a bit in TAS but I always found it far fetched that the joker managed to turn her full batshit.

Also she solely exists to be jokers side kick and stories with her that don't also have the joker in them are trash.

>>89595568
If they thought it was ever going to be canon they were delusional. Palmiotti, hell, even Dini, don't care as much as people think they do.

>>89595568
See, that's the trick. Real comic book fans stick with comics. They focus and forgive bad runs, and if they stop collecting comics, they get back into the horse eventually. I cant tell you how hard I dropped Spiderman after the OMD debacle, only to get back on it a year later, only to try to drop it again during the Superior Saga, only to pick it up again.

Comic book fans are diehards who come back to their love.SJWs just wont be. They'd rather have an extra cup of Starbucks coffee a month.

>>89595592
Agreed.
I never liked her. I dont even know how she ends up being so capable a fighter in Suicide Squad or surviving any fight- she's not a fighter, she's not a rogue, she doesnt have any training- she's BARELY a psychologist after fucking her way through college, and then now she's apparently on a on and off relationship with the Joker, whom with she was a genocidal massmurderer with, an accomplice to brutal , heinous crimes, if not also a mass murderer by herself.

I dont understand how she's 'cool'.
She doesnt have a heart of gold, either, or secretly spared people from the Joker's wrath.She was always MUH PUDDIN.

>>89595600
Yeah, I agree. What's funny though is that her and her friends like to pretend that this book doesn't exist

>>89595623
Thing is Harley solo is a bad run throughout. So your logic doesn't apply here until the book has a creative change. This book never had a good story

>>89595592
I liked Harley in TAS because instead of going on to be a mass-murderer, she got a brutal reality check, got out of the business permanently, and slapped her grandkids upside the head when she found out they were making the same mistakes she did.

>>89595527
>I don't wanna be generalizing, but I -*-*-*-FEEL-*-*-*- that the people with bad opinions who say bad facts are all just bad invaders who pretend to have personality traits other than being bad just so they can be more bad and hurt our good with their bad.
A lot of people feel the same way. You might call them "warriors".

>>89595643

we could have had a much better character

>harley ends up as the jokers keeper in some way as she distracts him from murdering people with her body and secretly lets his prisoners escape

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>>89594906
I thought she was being re-branded as a hero, or at least anti-hero

>>89595782
Killing cis scum is just supposed to be an "oh you!" moment

>>89595782
I never thought so.
This isnt Dragon Ball, where a innocent killing, mass murdering, genocidal fuck gets to come back and just be accepted as part of society.

She was never a Punisher Anti Villain who only killed badguys, she never got retconn'd to be always under the influence of a magical alien parasite from beyond space.She just fucking killed because it was fun to her, and because she liked making puddin' happy.

She should just have gotten killed years ago, she's not the hyper paranoid- edge of sanity Joker, where he's like a quantum box capable of anything because writers deem it so...she's just a random woman who fucked through college and became a fucking evil bitch.

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>new issue comes out
>"YAS QUEEN SLAY"
>"Free Harley from Joker's abuse!"
>mfw

>>89594906
>Why aren't sjws yelling sexual assault?

Why are you?

>>89595939
Imagine if the Joker did this.
>"ah, not her pussy, moving on"

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Harley is a nice lady.

>>89594934
Sounds like /pol/. They're sjws?

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>>89596025
In a sense, though they wouldn't use that term, of course.
There's two sides to every coin, after all.

>>89596025
Pretty much the other side of the same coin

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>>89595993
>GMILF

>>89595993
So what happened to harley in batman beyond after joker died? just became a normie and started a family after all that shit?

>>89594906
Is Harley the new face of DC or something?
I see her being plugged everywhere.

I mean she was a sexy Psychologist who barely passed Gotham University thanks to a large Gymnastics Scholarship amid rumors of seducing her professors. With a fearsome determination to succeeded, as a Criminal Psychologist, a oddly specif goal that needs more details. Then was "rehabilitated" by the Joker at Arkham while she was trying to rehabilitate him. The only interesting note was that it was Batman returning a beat up Joker to Arkham that was said to have made her snap.

There are too many good back stories that just got crammed into her in one big mess, and now what is she?
Any time she starts acting in a typical manner they smash her up again. But the Joker is the lord of Chaos and you can't have two of those alive at the same time.

So what is she?

>>89596079
Pretty much. I don't think they ever explained it in detail, but her granddaughters were part of the Neo-Joker gang and she bitched them out after bailing them out of jail.

>>89596079
Yes.

>>89594999
Harley dear, I think you're the dysfunctional one when it comes to relationships. Or, y'know, functioning as a human being.

>>89596079
Most likely. Dini never explained Harley's story after Joker's death, and I don't think he ever will

>>89596025
Look up horseshoe theory. /pol/ and SJWs are essentially exactly the same in every way except they argue for different ideologies.

>>89596079
Can only assume something like that.
But she said something that implied the Joker was the father and having kids changed everything, but honestly that raises more questions.

>>89596095
I only remember some retard who asked him if the twins were related to Ivy and he shut him down.

>>89596120
Nah, she said that Joker and her were planning to have kids but (and I quote) "rather than go through all the joy of childbirth, they decided to adopt" which is why they kidnapped Tim. Joker never really impregnated Harley

>>89596114
>Horseshoe theory
>not a crock of shit
The political spectrum is a 2D Cartesian plane not a 1D line, the only reason you perceive horseshoe theory as valid is because you're comparing the authoritarian left to the authoritarian right, and the similarities come exclusively from the authoritarian aspect of the ideologies. The extreme left and right are nothing alike. If you compared the libertarian left to the authoritarian right or vice versa you'd find diametrically opposed views. That, and the marginalization of the authoritarian left and liberal right often cause left ideologies to be misattributed to the right.

>>89596161
I was talking more to the fact that radicalization looks similar no matter what ideologies are being used.

And you know what. Honestly, the ideology isn't really important to these people. Its the sense of belonging and community they lack elsewhere. Its why most SJWs and pollacks actually know very little about politics despite spending most of their time arguing about it.

>>89595849
>she's just a random woman who fucked through college and became a fucking evil bitch
oh, so that's why sjws identify with Harley

>>89596143
I remember Harley saying something about not wanting to ruin her figure.

>>89596143
>>89596237
Actually I remember her complaining about the idea of kids ruining her figure, as she liked loosing slim.

This idea that they kidnapped kids would explain a lot. Would keep her thin, not deal with Jokers messed up biology and seems halfway reasonable given they are both criminal psychos. But I wounder how the legal paper work worked that let her keep them after all that.

>"Hello, I am the Joker and I here to adopt some kids. I'll take the finest miscreant you got. But not too young, I hate kids you know."

>>89594906
He's a white male, so it's okay.
You can kill/rape/torture those and it's fine, fine.

<spoiler>double standard? what?</spoiler>

>>89595527
that's exactly what they do.

>>89596237
https://youtu.be/eXMxRDpopoo

1:57 timemark

She didn't want to experience childbirth

>>89596317
>Actually I remember her complaining about the idea of kids ruining her figure, as she liked loosing slim.

Where it was explained that? All I know is from the flashback from Return of the Joker

>>89594906
for sjw it isn't about justice, it's about revenge for shit that never happened to them.

>>89596376
I don't remember, but it would likely be one of the older animated ones or maybe justice league as I watched those more.
I think there was another time were she got mad at Ivy over a vague fat joke, so her figure is something she cares about on some level.

>>89594906
harley ongoings shouldn't be allowed to feature or mention the joker at any time

>>89594906
why do you care what they think? why are you going out of your way to give them more attention? why are you so 12?

>>89596043
>>89596045
>>89596114

>anti SJW are just as bad as SJW XD

You stupid fucks make me sick.

The difference is they don't have a strangle hold on the media or the ability to get people fired and ruin their professional lives. When was the last time "/pol/" got pandered to? When was the last time a business or publisher was pissing themselves because they said something "/pol/" didn't approve of?

>>89596517
They got Hillary fired. Get your life in check cause you're sjwing right now.


Gamergate

>>89596502
What attention? Unless I struck a nerve, that is.

>>89596549

Ohohoho I see what you did there.

>>89596557
>You gave them a single post on 4chan, do you not realize how much more that adds to the legitimacy?!

>>89596517
I never said anti-SJWs were as bad as SJWs, just that they are basically doing the same types of things on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Your blind rage is hilarious, though.

>>89596085
She's the Deadpool of DC now. She was a niche character popular with comic fans who had a sudden increase in fame after getting more exposure to more mainstream audiences through video games and later movies. A funny mass murderer who gets a free pass from even the most virtuous of heroes (Spidey/Batman) to do whatever she wants because she's popular. Now she crosses over with everyone, is nothing like her former self and her old fans are all tired of her.

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>The comics are using movie design for harley

>>89595527
>hey guys, here's a crazy idea, maybe when you demand comics to cater to you you should buy comics that cater to you!
Took them too long to figure out. The comment section is a little extra dose of spicy cancer.

>>89596517
Anti-sjws are worse than sjws cause they're entirely reactionary. Your whole lives are centered around what the sjws do or think and you constantly bring them up.

>outrage over the lack of outrage.
Way to be a colossal faggot OP.

>>89594906
Men should be ashamed that they have a penis.

>>89594906

>Harley kills a guy after comparing cocks

Lol, what?

So does the Joker have a huge cock or multicolor pubes or something?

>>89594934
Only at least they bitch about the comic and not what people thought about the comic so they're still better comic book fans than /co/.

>>89596855
She's so intimately familiar with it she can recognize it at a glance.

It's probably above average in size, though.

>>89595824
Wasn't there a white cop who got brutally murdered while trying to help as a sight gag in a recent Marvel event? I think it was with that little girl who was a living cosmic cube or something.

>>89596855
The Real Joker's cock has a tattoo of a smiley face.

>>89596614
No its not even remotely the same thing.
SJWs are trying to remove what people love and hold dear, we are trying to preserve such things.
We are all fucking good with diverse characters we just ask you don't nuter/prude up or mischaracterize beloved characters to make them look good.

>>89596855
A bone white cock.

The fake Joker bleached his skin... but not his cock.

>>89594906
Sexual assault only happens when a MALE attacks a Woman or LGTBIMQIAASOSIDK

>>89596874
>we are trying to preserve such things.
No you're not, you're just impotently bitching.
>We are all fucking good with diverse characters.
Well that's a huge fucking lie.

>>89596893
Yes I am, I want to preserve Cheesecake so I buy cheesecake comics.

Not a lie at all, Black Panther is the best comic coming out by Marvel by far, its fucking fantastic. And Fem Thor is actually good aside from the Titana issue and a few plot holes.

>>89596893

Well what else could you do? How do you fight back then? Because "fighting back" means not catering them. And that's a fight the creators themselves have to do. And they're not doing that anytime soon if Marvel's any indication.

And before you say "don't buy their shit", you're implying that anyone buys the comics they're bitching at in the first place.

>>89596855
Huge white cock with purple tip.

>>89596909
Why can't Hardin replace Timms for the whole book?

>>89596614
>they are basically doing the same types of things on opposite ends of the spectrum

but they aren't you bottom feeding troglodyte.
If it wasn't made clear that they are losing customers because of this behavior it would be far worse than it is. Money is the only language these people care about and right now social media is the holy grail of advertising. There are no forms of entertainment that are immune to this so you can't simply stick to products that you know.

It would be the same if "/pol/" campaigned seriously against the Twilight movies or romance novels because of their portrayal of men. But nobody cares.

>>89596923
>How do you fight back then?
Going to an anti-sjw echo chamber is not fighting back, it's you going to your safe space tonl bitch cause you don't have the stones to face these people head on.

>>89596992
>but they aren't.
Yeah they are.

>>89594906
You are being silly anon, woman can't rape. Also killing a man after torturing him and humiliating him is exactly what all man deserve, what are you a misogynist pig?

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>>89596642
That explains a lot, after all if you rake in enough money your character is invincible.

Man that video game spike really did change things.

It was ashame as I always felt DC's joke character Ambush Bug had the perfect setup to mirror Marvel's Deadpool, and even predates him as I understand it. They are kind of similar with as they started as forth Wall Breakers with jokes and plot determinate teleporting powers. But Deadpool is more violent and fleshed out, They never did much with Ambush Bug outside of short joke bits, but it looks like he got a short run in 2008 but he just never made it far. I'd love to see him unleashed as the character he could be.

>>89595976
somehow i find that more fitting

>>89596860
SJWS shame people for liking things that are "problematic" all the damn time.

>>89597033

It's not like confronting them on Twitter would be any better since they can just block you before you even get a word out.

Look. Anti-SJWs can be annoying as SJWs, and they can get overly obssessive over picking fights over shit that doesn't matter like SJWs do. But the fact is, only SJWs are getting what they want, even if they DON'T reward the media for pandering to them. Telling the media that would just make them ignore you.

Or you don't really care and you just want anti-SJWs to shut up. Well too bad. Anti SJWs will stop whining when SJWs will stop whining. And you're just adding to the pile instead of helping.

>>89597115
>only SJWs are getting what they want.
Boo hoo no one wants to publish kikehunter woe is me freedom of speech is dead.

>>89596870
Was this the Mockingbird tampon gig?

>>89597145

Anti-SJW doesn't mean "neonazi", and you know that.

>>89597114
This whole thread is about shaming people who like a problematic book.

>>89597165
Just saying, don't be surpised when liberal writers or liberal artists listen to young liberals.

>>89595373
Probably has a Batman tattoo on it

>>89597181

Yeah, but just because one's a conservative, doesn't mean they listen to Alex Jones.

It's like those idiots who think Jontron's a Nazi because he talked to Sargon. (even though none of them are right wingers)

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>>89596806
>Anti-sjws are worse than sjws cause they're entirely reactionary. Your whole lives are centered around what the sjws do or think and you constantly bring them up.
If sjw's left people alone no one would be "reacting" to them.
>>89597033
>cause you don't have the stones to face these people head on.
When you do face them head on you're only met with even further lack of logic and reason than they already have. There's no convincing them of anything and they will never change their minds
>>89597042
>Yeah they are.
No. They don't and they aren't the same or just as bad either. Those are terrible arguments that also reek of fence sitting and being too lazy/afraid to think for yourself.
>http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/07/marvel-social-justice-insanity/
>https://radishmag.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/pump-and-dump/
>https://radishmag.wordpress.com/2013/09/27/fair-sex/
>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/04/the-sexodus-part-1-the-men-giving-up-on-women-and-checking-out-of-society/
>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/09/the-sexodus-part-2-dishonest-feminist-panics-leave-male-sexuality-in-crisis/
>https://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/

>>89595849
>She just fucking killed because it was fun to her
She killed innocents due to legitimate mental illness. Absent that shit she was just a slutty subpar shrink.

Not guilty by reason of insanity is a thing.

Characters like Harley and Riddler get some degree of pass for any shit they pull due to illness.

>>89597267
Not those guys you're replying to but

>Breitbart

You know that those guys are like Kotaku and Mary Sue, right?. They inject their own bias just like Kotaku or Mary Sue.

>>89597252

Fence sitters aren't ALL bad. You NEED someone to point out that you're heading a path that will lead to being as bad as the opponents you claim are bad. Without fence sitters in your group, you have what's happening in Berkeley or the Chicago kidnapping that happened a month ago. No one telling them that they are becoming as bad as their enemies, and that happens.

>>89597220
>Alex "Hillary and Obama are literally possessed by demons and you can literally smell sulfur near them" jones
>Alex "lizard people seems so sensible now by comparison" jones
>Alex" this is who the american president trust above any other news source" jones

>>89597252
>>89597267
>brietbart
Sorry m8 but I don't listen to government propaganda.

>>89597292

That's what I meant you idiot.

Just because on'es a conservative DOESN'T meant they listen to Alex Jones.

Just like how one's a liberal DOESN'T mean they listen to The Fine Young Turks.

I know Alex Jones is insane. What are you trying to accomplish? My point is just because one shares the same political opinion as their base, doesn't mean they have to listen to EVERY SINGLE political point that they spew.

>>89597327

Well sadly, there are no liberal places that speak against SJWs. Instead, they sing praises to them, take their word for it without research. Jontron only spoke on Breitbart about the unfair treatment he got for being critical about his own political side because all the OTHER so-called "reputable sites" joined in and fanned the flames. Like what they did with the AVGN.

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>>89594906
It's ok when girls do it.

>>89597358

Besides, if the election taught us anything, is that NO news site is reputable anymore. In b4 they were never reputable to begin with and some only had better illusions at being reputable than others.

It's better to assume ALL journalists nowadays are agenda driven vultures seeking stories for their own purposes. Doesn't matter. As long as you get your voice out there. Wanna complain about [insert political party/viewpoint here]? You're better off getting that message out via a news site that opposes said party/viewpoint.

>>89594906
>beat up a guy almost to death
You mean, other people beat him up.
She did

>>89597562
She did nothing but to torture and execute him.*

>>89594906
because liberals and sjws hate white men

the actively call for white men to be killed and treated like second class citizens

>>89594906
I don't see her sending him any mean messages, how is this violence?

All that happened is she (rightly) fought back against the system

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>>89596517
look at this faggot everyone

>>89596992
Look even if /pol/lacks aren't a 1:1 reflection of SJWs, they're every bit as annoying and toxic to a given online community.

This one in particular.

>>89596517
don´t bother anon

this is is /co/mblr after all

most people here are sjws that have no problem with comics being ruined as long as it pushes a far left agenda

for them politics come first and fun second

>>89596806
Objectively false becasue:
a)Anti-SJW is basically a normal person. Indifference to man-made structure is rather an act of ignorance or an apahy. First one is just a ascertaining of fact that you never encountered such "object";second is a sign of a broken spirit. First one is cured by time,second progresses by it.
b)SJW considered himself to be reactionary.You can't be reactionary to reactionary

>>89597697
those so called /pol/lacks are just fans trying to take back their community

sjws were the aggressors that outlawed sexy female characters and straight, white male protagonists

>>89597652
Like hitler to the jews?

>>89594934
They're /co/?

>>89597744
And /pol/lacks are trying to remove everything non-white, non-straight, and non-male from existence.

>>89597743
>Anti-SJW is basically a normal person
PFFFFT- anon pls.
normal people are not obsessed about what SJWs thought of something or belive they're firmly entrenched in a culture war.

>>89597744
> white majority
> somehow taken over by the minority

yeaa...nah senpai. its their own fault and you shouldnt feel sorry for the lazy fucks.

>>89597796
Sure they are, Bernie. Sure they are.

>>89597840

Okay but then don't complain about what SJWs do when they ruin your shit. You seem HAPPY that they're ruining comics.

>>89597857
Sjws don't ruin comics anon, bad writing does.

>>89597652
>because liberals and sjws hate white men.
So white guys can never get hurt or be killed because that means the writer/artist hates whitte guys.
>where have I seen this line of thinking before...
>oh yeah, from the SJWs.

>>89597875

Yes, they just so happen to cater to their interest and beliefs this time. At least we agree on THAT.

But that's just it isn't it? I'm NOT asking for shitlord comics that are just as bad, I just want bad SJW writing to stop. I just want good comics period. Today's crop of writers can't hold a candle to the comics of yesteryear that are also political but were better written.

>>89597830
>normal people are not obsessed about what SJWs thought of something or belive they're firmly entrenched in a culture war
Nobody said anything about obsession . It's just that viewpoint of a normal human will see SJW as a group he will most certainly antagonize with.
And expressing those views is enough for you ,faggots, to start screaming ANTI-SJW,MUH SAFE SPACE ,/POL/,/R9K/ PLZ LEAVE.

>>89597857
they didnt ruin comics anon. I know there has to be some big conspiracy to explain why you live a miserable life which averts all blame away from you but sjw aint it. they have their corner of the world and you have yours

>>89597899

No, but maybe stop making only THAT race the acceptable race to depict villains. Actually have villains that are varied. If you make EVERY bad guy a straight while male who is also a misogynist and a right winger while your protagonist is a woman/minority who is a feminist and a left winger, it gets obvious.

At least they don't seem to be making Harley redeemable.
She is still and awful, selfish, self obsessed, piece of shit.

Why did all of you forgot the time where she mass murdered hundreds of children by rigging their gameboys with explosives?

>>89597917
>they

anon, its a SMALL handful of comics nobody is forcing you to read. it was A-OK when they catered to you, wasnt it? Back when Marvel catered to you, they almost went bankrupt and had to sell the rights to the Xmen and FF

>>89597937

Don't patronize me. I know comics have been going downhill as of late long before they showed up but atm, pandering towards them hasn't made things better. I know why they do it. Diversity push to increase sales to a new audience. It's just too bad the new audience isn't eating it up no matter how much they try. Meanwhile, they end up alienating the older fans in the process.

>>89597136
>you killed a building load a`people
didn`t she do the same?

>>89597985

Who's talking about being catered to me? The comics of the older days didn't necessarily cater towards my beliefs either, but they were well done in how they presented it. The Xmen used to be their bread and butter to show prejudice being bad. Now they end up getting shat on in favour of the Inhumans which NOBODY FUCKING LIKES.

>>89598054
>but they were well done in how they presented it


bankruptcy !

>>89598088

And are you trying to tell me catering to SJWs is what saved them? Because the sales are saying otherwise.

Does anyone have that image where Batman basically describes Harley in his own words?
Saying how awful she is.

>>89598149
> currently not bankruptcy and daddy Disney bought them out

>>89597983
Cause that isn't canon.

>>89598173

So what is your argument? That SJWs are the only audience that matters and everyone just has to deal with it?

>>89598179
But it is though.

>>89597969
So white guys should only be heroes and never villains.

>>89594906
If he had succeeded on getting in her pants on a false identity, which was his goal, that would have been pretty bad.

Though "Heroic" Harley Murdering people isn't new. Remember the baggage claim clerk at the airport.

I'm more disappointed that this didn't play into the "3 Jokers" plot. Wasted opportunity.

>>89598251

I said "make more varied baddies"

You somehow think I said "white man should only be the hero"

What are you trying to do? PROVE that you're full of shit when you say anti sjw are just as bad as sjws?

>>89598250
Not as far as DC is concerned, the writers have already decided it's not canon and I take their word over yours.

>>89598285
I wouldn't trust Palmiotti with any Joker. Remember that he rewrote his meeting with Harley, making him more sexually forward for some reason.

I hope he doesn't interfere too much in Dini's backstory about him.

>>89594906
A woman can´t sexual assault a male. Even he´s 8 yo

>>89597969
But comic book baddies were already majorly white, this isn't something that happened because of the sjws.
>this was something that was already in place way before most sjw were even born.

>>89598364

The difference is, the political shit wasn't shoved in. Or at least, weren't overt.

>>89598305
You're full of shit cause you're saying that Harley killing a Joker imposter is somehow indicative that superhero comics hate white people.

Fuck this gay earth, he's never gonna leave this book.
http://comicsalliance.com/jimmy-palmiotti-five-stars-interview/

>CA: How much free range do you have with DC on the series? You’ve not only cemented Harley as one of their most popular characters, but you’ve done so while making lasting, notable decisions for the character — having her come out as bisexual, for example, and exploring her relationship with Poison Ivy. I wonder how hard in particular it was to have that decision approved, and put it into text within the comic after years of it being subtext?

>JP: I think Paul Dini and Bruce Timm did it early on, and we just built on it. I will say we have had our conversations with the publisher regarding how far we can take things, and we always find a comfortable middle ground. With all of Harley’s relationships, there’s risk involved. We see this in the Rebirth issues, and will see more of that in the future. Harley is a character driven at times by her passion for everything and everyone — it’s one of my favorite things about the character.

>>89597147
>>89597136
>You monster, you killed all those people!
>*proceeds to shoot him in the face*
Man, Marvel's lucky women don't actually read comics or else Harley wouldn't be nearly as popular.

They're bad guys- they murder people all the time so on a scale of reaction it isn't that extreme.
And she killed him for being a doppelganger trained specifically to fuck with her head, not because "his dick wasn't right".
I hate the character, but this response does seem vaguely appropriate.

>>89598397
You're still asking for special treatment for white people.

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>>89594906
I stopped reading Harley when I realized how much garbage it was. I read the last issue and nothing changed.

She's sure sanctimonious for someone who has no problem killing children, and that makes her intolerable.

>>89598414

Sorry. I wasn't talking about Harley. I'm referring to Marvel's schtick lately.

>>89594906
>Joker does something "problematic"
>tumblr gets triggered
>/co/ correctly answers "there's no problem with a villain doing something evil"

>Harley does something "problematic"
>/co/ goes full hypocrite

>>89598226
no, thats just the argument you wish I was making so that you could be upset about it.

>>89598482
That's non-canon.
It's been three fucking years and no other comic has mentioned this.
Just Let it go.

>>89598543

Currently it's because Harley's supposed to be an anti hero instead of a villain. If she's still a proper villain, this wouldn't be happening.

>>89598543
The Joker is still a villain, Harley is being advertised as an anti-hero/hero.

>>89596986
>my fucking dream
>hundreds of budgies to cuddle with

>>89598553

Well what is it then? You seem damn well convince that SJWs are completely irrelevant and that we should ignore whatever they do, but the creators aren't ignoring them.

>>89598511
>SJW's, their behavior and ideology has certainly had a hand in making people's lives shit

and the patriarchy hasnt? get in line anon

>Their corner is quickly becoming every corner and they seemingly don't want to stop until all of them are infested with their ideology,

and thats everyone elses fault for letting them. You dont blame the rapist for wanting to rape, you blame the poeple that let him rape them. if nobody let the rapist rape then he wouldnt be a rpaist. see how simple that logic is. Someone let the sjw sj and now we are where we are. last i checked sjw were and still are the minority

>>89596986
Why does she speak like a pirate?

>>89598576
But this is well within anti-hero territory anon.

>>89598628

Please tell me you're not serious.

>>89598609
>>89598576
Midnighter has done shit that's five time worse than this.you guys are actually showing a huge double standard when it comes to a male anti-hero and a female anti-hero and you don't even recognize the hypocrisy of it all.

>>89598677
why are you blaming the minority for what the majority let them do? They didnt ruin what wasnt given to them to be ruined

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>>89598437
Nah. Sales are starting to drop considerably, if sales keep going like they are I can see this being their last year on the book

>>89598053
yes
>>89598482

>>89596909

Its wrong that now i wanna see a comic/cartoon about what sort of shenanigans the four daughters of Joker and Harley could get into?

>>89598790

they would need to lose another 30k readers to even be considered for cancellation at DC

>>89599081
Well, Harley is the fourth pillar of DC so I think her book doesn't need to reach that level for DC to start considering a creative change. Just for the sale to be in the 40k range I think

>>89595849
Nu 52 actually gave Harley a reasonable Freudian excuse for being evil to ease her transition to anti hero: her dad was murdered by a rich guy who was driving drunk and used his connections to avoid arrest. Joker had the guy brutally killed as a gift to Harley to win her trust/bind her to him

>>89595457
He gives a damn good clownjob.

>>89595623
So comic book fans are like Harley, and publishers are the Joker?

>>89598438
>implying

>>89598317
Better source this.

>people are hypocrites

If you are over the age of 9 this really shouldn't be news to you

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>>89597052
>Longtime fans
>#9 of a 2013 series, meaning presumably september 2013 at the earliest
>Longtime fans
>3 years

>>89596855
Maybe Joker's uncircumcised?

Because Harley has always been batshit loco, plus the person being tortured isn't anyone of worth. Now, go back to your moms basement and cry me a river.

>>89598364
But comic book heroes were already majorly white. As it turns out, in the interests of diversity Marvel/DC managed to find all sorts of ways to introduce female, homosexual and/or PoC characters into comics. I don't think it's a valid argument to talk about historical precedent of villains without looking at the historical precedents for heroes/supporting characters/literally everybody else.

Consciously trying to include a more realistic/diverse representation of a population is fine. Ensuring that this diversity is only in the form of positive role models or heroic characters is pandering.

>>89597743
>Anti-sjw is a normal person.
... No. Anti-sjw are people who argue against SJW.

I, for example, am all for gay rights and religious freedom. I am not, however, okay with character shilling and excessive minority pandering in any form of art or media.
I am for accepting refugees, but I also understand that our vetting procedures should be more strict and that more countries should examined with scrutiny coughsaudiarabiacough.

Would I be an SJW? Would I be anti? Neither. I'm a person with morals that can empathize with people on both sides of the spectrum.

>>89598628
>and the patriarchy hasnt? get in line anon
>>89597267
The patriarchy is largely a meme. And alot of people and groups throughout history have. But that doesn't mean others who are legitimately suffering and having problems should have those labeled as trying to avert blame from themselves or that they're making up a conspiracy. Escpecially when this
>conspiracy to explain why you live a miserable life
actually does have basis in fact.
>and thats everyone elses fault for letting them.
It may well be the case that people who let them are also guilty. But those who actually did it are equally if not moreso responsible as well. They don't just get to push the consequences of what they do onto others; especially people who didn't do anything; and get a free pass.
>You dont blame the rapist for wanting to rape
Wanting? That's a whole other debate that can involve how they were raised to neurochemistry. There definitely times rapists can be blamed for wanting though. And they most certainly can be blamed for acting on it and committing the act
>you blame the poeple that let him rape them.
No you still blame the rapist. Sometimes some victims of rape could have actually done a few things that could have stopped it
>inb4 victim blaming
But the rapist is still the one who forced themselves on innocent people. Even if someone "made" them. They still made a choice.
>if nobody let the rapist rape then he wouldnt be a rpaist.
Like I said they made a choice. And it could be argued that the rapist might have just turned out like that anyway, simply beacuse he was just born evil. He'd choose to do it whether anyone made him or not.
>see how simple that logic is.
But it's not that simple at all
>Someone let the sjw sj and now we are where we are.
The SJW's still had a choose and could have looked and thought for themselve, stopped even. But they didn't and it's most just because they didn't want to. They choose to keep at it.
>(cont.)

>>89600612
>>89598628
>(cont.)
>last i checked sjw were and still are the minority
With a lot of power and influence they're using to manipulate and lie to people as well as infect different forms of media with their rhetoric and ruin people's lives

>>89600751
But she didn't rape him.

>>89596517
>When was the last time /pol/ got pandered to?

I take it you don't follow US politics?

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>>89594906
But, OP, (you) are.

>>89596664
To be fair, her new look for the comic and the movie originated from the Arkham games.

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Feminists are hypocrites, who knew?

>>89595623
>comic fans come back to products that prove themselves as inferior/not up to par
man you guys dont set up a good image for yourselves

They didn't yell sexual assault when Nightwing got raped, why would they now?

>>89594999
>D'ya even understand what a relationship with someone actually means?

What so when you're in love with a girl you have to show her your penis? Ew, no thank you.

>>89597166
Pretty sure this thread is just about calling attention to a double standard, not actually shaming people for liking it.

>>89594906
>>lets make up something because the SJW MENACE is NOT saying anything about a comic

>>89603446
>make up something
There's nothing to make up.

>>89594906
>Why aren't sjws yelling sexual assault?

You already know the answer to this so why are you making yet another thread about this?

Oh right, moral outrage threads make your epeen hard

That was anti-climactic.

So there's just one Joker after all, and the other two are groomed imposters?

This issue really felt like a letdown. I understand Harley's behavior at the end, but you'd think this guy would say something more convincing like I knew Joker was using me, but I didn't care. Cause why should he? He's trying to get what he wants, and Joker is helping him. Better than being locked up forever.

>>89595782
Did you forget that Deadpool is an antihero who still goes on berserk killing sprees from time to time?

>>89594906
I'm more baffled by how you even came to this conclusion.

>>89596868
>She's so intimately familiar with it she can recognize it at a glance
i wish i could unread this

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>>89596025
/pol/ and alt rightfags in general are EXACTLY like SJWs.

>>89606193
Both groups also get triggered if you use the term "horseshoe theory" around them.

I mean... wasn't he just going to try to kill her?

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>>89605843
No, anon. You now know that the image of his dick is engraved in her mind.

>>89595554
>hundreds of posts later
>"Because they're evil sexist subhuman nazis!'
>"Because they're evil sexist subhuman nazis!'
>"Because they're evil sexist subhuman nazis!'
>"Because they're evil sexist subhuman nazis!'
>"Because they're evil sexist subhuman nazis!'
Well, that turned out as expected.

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>>89597145
I am suddenly very interested in this Kikehunter guy.

>>89598285
It'd be basically rape but that's OK for /co/

>>89598285
Wait, I thought this is one of the 3 Jokers.

>>89609230
Who knows at this point. Maybe ask Palmiotti.

>>89609290
Can I ask Conner instead?

>>89597198
>this

>>89597033
>not fighting back
Like Milo? Like Sargon? And what, get banned?