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Hey /co/! You wanted the original heroes back? Well, Eddie Brock

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Hey /co/! You wanted the original heroes back?

Well, Eddie Brock as Venom again!
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>>89357880
about fucking time.
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>>89357880
But will it be good, though?
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>>89357880
boooo
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>>89357880
Finally
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>>89357979
Almost certainly not
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>>89357979
What do you think?
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>>89357880
Wasn't Eddie Brock Anti-venom?
Are they just doing a reboot?
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Then wtf is the point of the current Venom book? Why even try to care about the protagonist if he's getting replaced for a nostalgia act? Fuck the status quo
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>>89357880
Don't care, where's Mania?
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>>89358035
He hasn't been Anti-Venom for awhile. He's been Toxin for the last bit, and judging by the Carnage #16 preview, he's losing that symbiote too.
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>>89357979
>Costa
>good
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Even marvel knows they shit the bed
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>>89357979
>Same creative team
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>>89358045
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Called it.

Still disappointed its not Flash getting the symbiote back, Eddie was my second choice anyway, even if I'd rather see him be Anti-Venom.

It'll be interesting to see how he reacts to the symbiote trying to do good.
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So he's about to lose Toxin in the Carnage comic, but what happened to new guy i hated the first 2 issues so i never read again did they kill him
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>>89357880
No Flash no-

>That McFarlane mouth

....Okay, you win.
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>>89358164
Nope, he's still currently Venom in issue 3, and from the solicits, we know he will be until issue 5.
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Eddie Brock is my favourite. I hope they do good work with him this time
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>>89357880
No, i wanted Eddie To be the Anti venom
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>>89358202
Are they finally pandering to us?
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>>89358132
If she's be brought back it'll be just so she can die for sales

Have you already forgotten the fate of every other symbiote?
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Think he'll be in MvsC4 now?
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>HEY PETER! I'm fucking your ex co-worker again!

>A-Are you jealous yet?

>pls be jealous
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>>89358202
Yeah, Sandoval's art has been hit or miss for me, but he draws a nice classic Venom.
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With all the build with Eddie when he was Anti-venom and then Toxin i can't see how this will work.
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>>89358230
I wont believe it till they issue an apology for One More Day.
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>>89358275
That was going to happen when they finally merge RYV Peter with the current Peter
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>>89358256
Spotted the casual!
Brock was never peter's co-worker in the comics
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>>89358305
Please no. I mean, Annie is fine, and Peter is top notch, but super powered MJ kills it for me.
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There goes years of Character development down the drain

If they make Flash anti-venom I'll slightly forgive Marvel
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>>89358307
You sure got him! Wow, being an elitist sure is fun
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>>89358241
She's a quirky teenage girl in the Marvel Universe in 2017, she's never had a better shot at sticking around than now.
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>>89358041

better than SJW pandering atleast, could have been worse and could have tuned venom into mexican immigrant or something
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>and people were actually crying because they thought Lee was supposed to be the new protagonist

I'm laughing at all you stupid faggots right now.
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>>89358307
Clearly Venom has to get its hands on an actual ex-coworker and ex-girlfriend.
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>>89358351

>August 2017
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>>89358041
Maybe it's selling like shit? I don't know but having Brock as Venom again will probably boost sales.

I can't see a way to make Brock being Venom again interesting without rehashing old stories.

More importantly where the fuck else can Eddie Brock as a character? He's been a nemesis, a lethal protector an evangelist, a cure and he's had had like, 2-3 goes as government agent.

Maybe it's a fake-out and it'll be the new guy again but I doubt it. I'll wait for the trade I guess or pirate it. Pretty much every argument I've seen against this book has been "why wasn't it Eddie or Flash?" and people saying the new guy was too edgy.
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>>89358395
Hey the Mexican Falcon isn't that bad, mostly because latino don't careabout muh representation
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>>89358041
As a casual observer who just skims the book, it feels like you're supposed to hate Joe Mad's Sasuke because eventually Brock will come and for the symbiote and kick his ass.
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>>89358351
I'd miss Flash and the symbiote's relationship, but it'd be worth it to have Flash still doing super hero stuff.

I could see it.
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>>89358041
>he thinks Lee is the Protagonist
>He doesn't know that Venom is the Protag and Lee is the Antagonist
Shit, and they say /co/ doesn't read comics...
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It's gonna be shit
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>>89358514
That's probably because they have their own culture and think everything whites do is bland and boring.

I had a Mexican friend back in college who just couldn't get into comics because, to him, its the same white guy in a halloween costume punching a monster or another white guy in another halloween costume.
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>>89358651
Maybe if Toxin survives Carnage, you can give that to Flash, that way you keep the symbiote relationship.

Hell, Toxin already looks like Agent Toxin.
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>>89358813
Not really, it depends of the person i love comics, but lately they're so dull, i wouldn't give a fuck about black girl iron man if she wasen't a cunt or at least a cunt with a personality, i give afuck about the raceor gender if the story is funny, also the only to good hispanic super heros are Nu52 Vibe , Blue bettle Jaime and Robbie Reyes
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So are they going to pretend the current book never happened? Because it was one bad decision after another. It felt like the writer knew nothing about the symbiote or anything for that matter
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>>89359006
Hey DCpretend Nubo never happened and i'm okay with that
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>>89359029

They brought back 80s Lobo?
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>>89359055
Yes Justice league vs Suicide squad it'spretty good, look like giving fans what they like boost sales, who would thought it
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>>89357880
I knew that this was inevitable, but why do people care about Eddie Brock so much? He was always a boring character with pathetic motivations, it was the Symbiote itself that made him cool.
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>>89358922
>Hero Toxin
JUST BRING PAT BACK YOU MOTHER FUCKERS.

HE WAS KILLED OFFSCREEN, IT WOULD BE THE EASIEST THING.

I will never give up hope.
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>>89359212
Oh, absolutely. No body, no death.
Plus, if Flash got Toxin, my symbiote squad premise could still work, I'd just need to swap some symbiotes around when they find Pat.
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>>89358493

I'd rather have Brock or Flash just stick with it permanently or for at least 8 or so years. This constant game of musical symbiotes is what's old and dull as shit.

It's tough to build on a character and advance them when they keep coming and going. Just keep it one person, and change things about the symbiote.

Although I agree with a lot here saying keep Brock as anti-venom and flash as venom.
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>>89359029
>>89359095
They ever going to address that or is it better just to forget/move on? Regardless thank god old Lobo is back
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>>89357880
So I guess he kept his promise /co/
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>>89359330
I think Nubo is trapped by someone they probably gonna adress him later, but no one cares because the original is back
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I thought the Symbiote was bonerrific for Flash because he's angsty as fuck and it'd given up Brock because he mellowed the fuck out?
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>>89357880
I don't mind the switch, but what about the current Carnage story though?
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Nothing against Flash, because Agent Venom was great before he fucked off into space, but Eddie will always be Venom to me. So yeah heres hoping Marvel doesnt completely fuck this up like the majority of their books.
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>>89359298
>This constant game of musical symbiotes is what's old and dull as shit

I agree, it's strange to see Carnage of all people be the most consistant symbiote out of the lot.
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>>89359390
It's ending this week.
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So does this end with Edge Lord dying?
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>>89359381
He's the only thing from Larfleeze's collection of shrunken things Braniac-style that the GLC didn't free.
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>>89357880
Oh God no
Not again
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>>89359330
Here is Nubo trapped like the little bitch he's
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Bait and switch. But which is the bait? Eddie or the new guy?

Money's on eddie. The bait and the ensuring rage will be a shot in the arm for the book.
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I don't want Eddie to be Venom again though. He's moved past that.

It would be like making Peter wear the symbiote again.
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>>89358493
Well both of the characters (mostly the symbiote) have been through their own personal development since they've been apart from other.

Assuming the symbiote doesn't regress back to the personality it originally had when it was with Brock, it'd be interesting to see how the two bond now.
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>>89359212
>>89359255

A COP as a hero nowadays? They'd lynch the creative team for portraying a cop as a hero.
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Scorpion is next issue, and will probably be the joke he always is
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>>89359584
>always
reeeeeee
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>>89358041
Anon, it's pretty obvious that Lee is meant to be hated. The whole first arc is about making you feel bad for the Venom symbiote while praying that Lee gets killed.
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>>89359584
given he never fixed the exposed jaw, itd be hilarious if lee ripped it off again
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>>89358813
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>>89357880
I bet it only lasts one issue. Even if it lasts, I'm not looking forward to it.
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I can't see Venom killing Lee despite hating his guts because it really wants to be a hero, so I guess Lee is now a Venom villain that will occasionally attack Eddie.
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>>89359662
>Wanting Jackie Estacado to die
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>>89359542
Boy this reads like a 14 year old's Sonic fanfic.
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>>89359965
It's an edit.
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>>89359517
Gotta love how Guy was just about to throw it like a football at Larfleeze before Hal intervened and went "No, just no."
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What if it isn't Brock in there still?
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>>89359989
Thank God, I was considering going back to Todd McFarlane era Spider-Man and that almost spooked me out of it.
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>>89358256
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>>89357979
Costa's a fucking hack so no. Can't wait for him to write Eddie as an edgelord instead of kind of a well-meaning brickhead.
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>>89357880
But I wanted Flash. Hell I was interested in seeing where Sasuke was going. Are they abandoning him?
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>>89359662

Which is why I expect the symbiote to be made to choose between the two, and it picks Lee because of Stockholm syndrome and blaming Eddie for selling him in the first place and abandoning him like parker. And Eddie will take it like a bitch and blame himself.

There, saved you the money.
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>>89357880
>Eddie Brock as Venom again!

WHAT TOOK SO LONG ?

also


WE


ARE


VENOM
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>>89360074
>Can't wait for him to write Eddie as an edgelord instead of kind of a well-meaning brickhead.

Listen to this anon he's right
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>>89359584
I really hate how they keep fucking up his look more and more. Why not just use something like the TAS design and be done with it?
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>>89359662
Just because you're supposed to hate the character doesn't mean it's good writing.

The symbiote is being 100% out of character and has never once been such a bitch.

Feeling sorry for the symbiote is pretty hard when the writer can't even do the absolute minimum research regarding the character and have any idea how to properly write 'em.

Everything about Costa's writing is shit. It reads like a high schooler's fanfiction. Right down to having the most obnoxious tropes right in your face.

It reads like a parody. Except, it's not a parody at all.
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>>89358256
>ex co-worker

Read a fucking comic, casual scum.
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>>89358437
Watch. Brock will be back for one issue, until Lee forces the symbiote to return to him from pure force of will.

You know it's going to happen.
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>>89360535
>Read a fucking comic, casual scum.
Speaking of which, did Eddie ever actually appear in a comic before he showed up as Venom?
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>>89360535
no one cares fag
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>>89359382
Aka
>I don't actually read comics. Hold my hand and tell me everything!
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>>89360580
Kinda. You see his hand twice as he grabs Peter's leg while climbing a wall and pushes him in front of a train.
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>>89360617
Clearly, you do.
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About damn time.
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>>89360699
nah, you're just sperging out, it's funny
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>>89357880
>No FlashVenom and Mania book ever

IT'S NOT FAIR :(
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>>89360742
>No one cares!
>I'll show him how little I care by responding and throwing a fit!
>See, see guise! I don't care!

kek. ok, anon. If you say so.
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>>89360956
>>89360742
>>89360699
>>89360617
Why don't you both fuck off
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>>89357880
>6 issues in and Lee's already getting the shaft
OH, COME ON NOW
Can we just have one thing, one fucking thing that doesn't get changed up?
Is a little consistency so much to ask for?
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>>89360977
> wanting Lee around
Shit taste
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Watch Lee somehow gets Carnage.
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>>89360977
>Lee has actual fans

You are everything wrong with the comics industry right now.
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>>89360882
Mmm, good. Let them fade away.
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>>89361050
That wouldn't end well for Lee.
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>>89361093
why would the star of the best Venom volume fade away?
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>>89360682
no, I meant, actually showing up in full, and being identified as "Eddie Brock" before issue 300 where he shows up as Venom
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>>89361049
>>89361080
Look, I was around back when Brock was diagnosed with cancer alright?
I've been there for Eddie, Angelo, Mac and Flash and I'm sick and tired of it playing fucking Roulette so often
So I don't give a shit if he is an edgelord navy seal or whatever
I just don't want the fucking host changing AGAIN
And what the fuck do you think's gonna happen to the Toxin symbiote?
You think they're gonna retcon Pat being killed off-panel?
I think not
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>>89361080
That is some aggressive hyperbole.
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>>89361178
>I've been there for Eddie, Angelo, Mac and Flash

Where Venom threads always this shit? Serious question.
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>>89361178
>and I'm sick and tired of it playing fucking Roulette so often

If you've been around that long (which you haven't), then you'd at least know that the symbiote has stuck with each of those hosts (minus Angelo) for several years.

So just fuck off, casual scum.
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>>89361178
>And what the fuck do you think's gonna happen to the Toxin symbiote?

SOMEONE isn't reading Conway's Carnage book.

I know its hard, but try to be less of a newfag.
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>>89361127
Because he's going to become Toxin. And Mania won't like it.
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I can't wait for Eddie to come back and be humiliated by the new guy to show how bad ass he is.
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>>89357880
>fucking one of your (scarce) good minority character.
>for something that nobody really wanted anyway.

Why Marvel?
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>>89361361
see: >>89361348
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>>89361408
>>fucking one of your (scarce) good minority character.

Who are you even talking about? Lee? He's:

>A- One of the shittiest characters the medium has ever seen.
>B- A white dude.
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>>89361426
>Based Flash
>>A- One of the shittiest characters the medium has ever seen.

You're out of your fucking mind?
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>>89361457
You utterly fail at reading comprehension.
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>>89361483
Sorry I didn't see Lee.
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>>89357880
Wow, it's the same old fucking shit!!!
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>>89361410
>>89361348

What are you talking about? I've read all 15 issues so far. Toxin is fine.
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>>89357880
i didnt want him back, i wanted him to never leave in the first place. unless you can make that happen it doesn't really fix anything
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>>89357880
Took long enough. Sucks I'm not interested enough in comics anymore to bother reading.
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>>89357880
But what about agent venom?

Did Flash get cucked but the symbiote, or did Eddie some how get a new one?
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>>89362073
pretty sure it's still unrevealed how Flash lost the symbiote, but I'm so apathetic to Marvel now that I might have missed it
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>>89361426
>Lee
>Is white
What?
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I hope it's good, but damn that's a lot of character development down the drain.

I hope they don't kill off or forget about Mania.
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>>89362189
Ever heard of Robert E. Lee
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>>89358704
>He thinks protagonist means "the good guy"
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>>89359542
>Black Cat's ass is exposed
>Comic mentions she's been raped

Dang Eddie Venom is brutal
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>>89359989
Good, I don't remember reading that so I suspected as much.
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>>89362765
It's an edit.
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>>89361903
>Toxin is fine
Then you completely fail at following a story. Brock no longer has Toxin, dumbass.
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>>89362189
How is Lee Price not white?
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>>89363810
It's hard to tell with this shitty fucking art
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>>89362211
>I hope it's good
Its written by Mike Costa. It won't be.
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>>89363852
Yeah, I mean, the whole part where they spend like 3 pages discussing the pros and cons of giving the Toxin symbiote to Jubulile and then, you know, do it, is real fucking hard to follow you illiterate mongoloid.
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Post yfw Toxin is sacrificed to save the world on Wednesday.
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>>89363924
>>89363970

Not him but they're not gonna let Toxin die. I bet my right hand that he'll slip away at the end and fall into the ocean.
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>>89363986
I never said he was going to die. I said Brock doesn't have Toxin anymore. Which is fact.
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>>89364067
Well yeah, but that doesn't mean he won't end up on someone else down the line. Give him to Miles and toss them into obscurity.
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>Edgeleord McSasuke is gone
Even if it comtinues being shit, I'm happy so long as anyone else on the fucking planet has the symbiote.
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>>89364157
>but that doesn't mean he won't end up on someone else down the line
How fucking dense are you? Toxin already IS with someone else.

Learn how to follow a storyline you dumb wog.
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>mfw Marvel somehow fucks this up
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>>89364269
>somehow
Ock is Ben now. Superior Scarlet.
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>>89364233
I know that dumbass, I don't give a shit about this host. That's why I want him with someone else.
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>>89363970
What the fuck is this shit, the symbiote designs in this book have been fucking awful.
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>>89364409
>I don't like the host, so I'll just pretend that never happened. That's ok, right guise? Right?

Just fuck off.
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>>89361361
Why would Mania not like Flash being Toxin? I don't see why she would give a shit if Flash was wearing a different symbiote. I could see her being mad at Brock though because she may feel that the Venom symbiote belongs with Flash.
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So it's been awhile but are the remnants of hybrid still around? Last we see of them they were attached to that military dog
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>>89364546
>Last we see of them they were attached to that military dog
Yeah, they haven't been brought up since.
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And thus we finally return to status quo.
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>>89357880
Is that a jojo reference...?
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>>89363970
Reading this comic without the previous ones made this strange as fuck. At first thought it was "Jubilee", so that was a vampire ex-mutant host hunting down other.
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>>89364593
Well, at least they're safe I guess.

I hope. Still upset they took Scream from me
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>>89364285
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>>89364285
>>89364666

Soon
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>>89364656
The Scream symbiote might still be alive. After all, Brock failed at killing the Hybrid symbiotes.
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>>89364442
To be fair, there's a bunch of mystical Darkhold shit being involved with Raze and whatever Carnage did to Jubilele. Hell, it gave Cletus a split jaw and digitigrade legs.
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So what's going to happen to Toxin

Plz go to Flash so he can be his adaopted Pat
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>>89364697
Don't give me hope anon, I'm not emotionally ready.
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>>89358922
Just have the two sit in a room and swap symbiotes like they're loaning each other different outfits.
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>>89364698
>Cletus a split jaw and digitigrade legs

I forgot about that. Weird as fuck
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>>89364722
>So what's going to happen to Toxin
Gotta read Carnage #16 when it comes out, dingus.
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>>89364696

>you right now

Literally had nothing to do Ock.
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>>89364656
Scream killed her fellows. Nothing wrong.
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>>89364780
Anon please, she stopped being bad and was just being innocent after the 90s. She caused no troubles
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>>89364269
Why do people keep giving Slott's schlock a chance?
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>>89364449
Not him nor have I read Carnage but why can't Toxin just be separated from this Jubilee chick? Symbiotes have been separated from their hosts and gone to other hosts numerous times so what's the deal here?
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>>89364814
Slott is the Bendis of mainline Spider-Man. He will be writing it forever.
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>>89364897
Unless I deal with him..
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WHERE IS LEE "THE BEST VENOM" PRICE?
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>>89364903
Better hurry up with that, anon. He's been writing Spidey for nearly a decade now.
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>>89365073

Good Riddance.

Edgelord can stay gone.
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>>89365096
What were they thinking with his hairstyle?
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>>89365096
Lee is the best Venom and you can't change that, Flash.
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>>89365187
Anime
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>>89358045
>>89358241
Cullen Bunn said he'd like to have the Monsters of Evil appear in the Monsters Unleashed ongoing and Mania has control over them so maybe she'll appear in that?
https://news.marvel.com/comics/58291/monsters-unleashed-madness-continues-april/
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I kinda liked Lee. Appearance wise. Not his personality.

Please don't hurt me
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>>89358371
Mania/Andi isn't quirky. She's more of a rebellious, smartass teenage girl with attitude.
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>>89357979
>Any Klyntar
>good
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>>89365269
Only one way to deal with these alien scum
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>>89365194
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>>89358156
>It'll be interesting to see how he reacts to the symbiote trying to do good.

They'll get mind wiped or something and then go back to munching brains.
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>>89358307
By this point when it comes to symbiotes TAS might as well be more canon than those old comics.
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>>89358651
That could work, all Mr Negative has to do is touch him... does MR N still have powers?
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>>89365252
>I kinda liked Lee. Appearance wise.
Can the weebs please leave?
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Pshh.
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>>89365398
I can't go back to /a/ right now after a failed bet.
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>>89365362
>all Mr Negative has to do is touch him
Assuming Flash even has any of the symbiote's cells still in him. And assuming something else doesn't get inverted first.
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>>89365315
Brock isn't inherrently a bad guy, he just has some jelousy issues and the symbiote fucked them up because it wasn't very good at being...good. it still was applying primal, instinctual logic to civilisation's standards and tering shit up beause that's what Venom knows best. Now that it's figured out how to empathy he's probaly gonna be more hero than anti, but still be a dick about stuff.
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>>89365423
Well you're not welcomed here, either.
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>>89359212
One thing I liked about Pat is he was a cop, which don't really have anything in comics beyond "Oh no, our guns are useless, call the military/S.H.I.E.L.D./Supers/whatever!" And it'd be great to show not all cops are murdering racist gang members with a badge like a lot of social media would have you believe.
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>>89365423
/a/ loses a bet and has to stay in /co/ for a time period... Fucking comedy gold.
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>>89365227
>and Mania has control over them
Did you even read the interview you linked? This is literally never said. He doesn't even bring up mania at all.
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>>89365458
You're stuck with me.

>>89365500
I'll never make a bet involving Gohan again.
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>>89365538
>make a bet involving Gohan
Get a load of this faggot.
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>>89365264
They will throw her in Champions
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>>89357880
Didn't they just get a new venom like two months ago?
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>>89357880
no I wanted Peter with the symbiote again. Eddie 'sloppy seconds' Brock can go fuck himself with a bible until he returns to being Anti-Venom
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>>89365681
>no I wanted Peter with the symbiote again.
So you want something that would literally never happen again?
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>>89365666
he was intentionally written as a massive heel to put fans in a place where regardless of who they prefer as a host, ANYONE but Sasuke McCree would be preferable.
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>>89365398
>>89365423
>>89365458
>>89365538
>>89365616


kek i know you
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I love Venom!
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>>89358132
please christ no, leave her out of this shitshow

Andi deserves better
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>>89359531
>It would be like making Peter wear the symbiote again.

Considering the development the Symbiote has gone through over the last few years, good or bad or if you like it or not are irrelevant since it's still development, and the fact that it and Peter are kind of on good terms now, that's not that far fetched. They just need more time working together to get on better terms, or a desperate time that calls for desperate measures.

Of course this would require for the writers at Marvel to both know and care, two things I don't think they can do.
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>>89365874
>hey just need more time working together to get on better terms
You haven't been keeping up with upcoming Venom news, have you?
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>>89365712
yes.
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>>89364487
Not that anon but I would imagine her symbiote, clone or not, might not react well to Toxin.
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>>89365765
I really hope they ditch the green drool if he gets into MvC:I. Of all the traits he's ever been depicted with, the green drool is my least favorite. It just makes him look like he has a really bad sinus infection
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>>89357979
I like your style of humor
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>>89366005
I never thought of it that way, now I can't unsee it.
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>>89364546
What book and issue was this again?
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>>89366039
Deadpool vs Carnage #5
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>>89358257
People need to stop giving sandoval and humberto ramos work already. I don't care about anime inspired art but their art has this gross "how to draw manga" feeling and it just looks sad really
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>>89365449
They'll, plural, as in both Brock and the Symbiote.
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>>89365948
No, I just read the comics as they come out.
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So, Carnage will be able to go back to calling Eddie/Venom dad. Instead of son/dad.
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>>89357880
Oh boy, I can't wait for Venom to be a whiny loser that blames Spider Man for all his problems and has a hypocritical moral code again.
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>>89357979
The first issue was absolute garbage.
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>>89366516
Now anon, he's going to blame Flash instead. And then Peter.
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>>89358813
>My personal experience with one guy represents a gigantic group of people.

You're pretty fucking stupid.
Mexico is a HUGE market for comic books. Also most mexicans despise SJW shit.
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>>89366720
As a spic living in NY, I hate SJW shit. I just want to enjoy people in costumes fighting bad guys and stuff. Even as a kid, I never noticed the person's ethnicity or whatever, I identified with the characters themselves.

I just want to have fun with comics, now I feel depressed seeing all this SJW shit in. Yet happy when they don't sell well.
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>>89366257
Well, Venom is already gearing up to fight Pete.
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>>89366516
Look at this deranged Flashfag. Is that somehow better than an even more pathetic being that whines about his dad, alcohol, and his mom and can't ever decide if killing people is okay or not?
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>>89357880
>not flash
fuck off
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>>89365096
But he's just getting replaced by an even worse edgelord
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>>89366844
>I identified with the characters themselves.

But anon, those characters don't have the same skin pigmentation as you, so that's impossible.
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>>89367009
Sometimes I wish I could go up to Marvel's writers and tell them off, anon. They would at least give me a chance since I'm brown
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>>89366855
Why do you say that? It's just a cover.

And so far, both Eddie and the symbiote have made their peace with Spider-Man
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>>89367116
>Why do you say that?
Because the whole creative team has already confirmed it, numbnuts.
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>>89366973
Either:
>A- You have never read a single book with Eddie in it.
or
>B- You have no idea what "edgelord" means.

Take your pic, faggot.
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>>89367218
You got a source on that?

For all we know, Venom's trying to save Spidey on that cover.
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>>89367315
>What is google?
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>>89357880
>Marvel proudly announcing the return of a strong white man

Well that's a first, I'm sure half of their staff suffered an aneurysm from so much triggering.
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>>89367473
See his glowing blue eyes? They know what I want.
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>>89358395
>better than SJW pandering atleast, could have been worse and could have tuned venom into mexican immigrant or something

SJWs don't care about making villains minorities. SJWs only care about making minorities into flawless, perfect heroic ciphers who are objectively better than the white guys who came before and are also boring as fucking shit.
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Why does everyone like Anti-venom? Even for Marvel that was a cornfest.
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>>89357880
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>>89364067
>Jubulile

Black people need to stop. Seriously, this shit is getting stupider every day.
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>>89367473
dont worry anon, they know what theyre doing. hell be evil and do a lot of terrible things
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>>89364157
>Miles using a non-Bendis OC symbiote
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>>89367650
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>>89367459
I googled it and found nothing. They mention Eddie, sure, and Lee as Venom is shown to be battling Spider-Man in issue 5, but no Eddie vs Pete.
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>>89367552
Because it was a good progression for the character. Allowed him to be the gift from God that he always thought he was. He embraced the craziness.
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>>89358813

Your friend is a pendejo. We love comics an cartoons as much as you guys.
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>>89367574
To be fair, she's from another country. Her name probably means something in a different language.

Carnage even made fun of her name and called her jujubee.
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You know there's always the change that it's bullshit and it's either a one-off Eddie cameo or something like that, right?
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>>89367876
Oh please no
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>>89367717
Has Bender B. Rodriguez been canonized into mexican psuedo catholic magic yet?
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Did they ever explain why flash and venom got seperated?
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>>89359584
Have we gone full Armor Wars again?
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>>89367876
It's not a chance it's what'll happen.
Even a trainwreck like this book knows its narrative coherence, they're not about to ditch their new host and protagonist. It's like when people thought Peter would return in Superior #9. Just no.
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>>89357880
I can almost hear the Maximum Carnage theme music by "Green Jelly" playing in my head. Hmm, I might still be able to play it on my SNES.
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>>89367876
I will be after your ass if that happens.
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>>89357979
>Marvel comics.
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>>89357880
What's the point of Venom anymore?

I mean, his whole schtick was that they wanted revenge on Peter, knew Peter Parker was Spider-Man, and as a result could touch any of his loved ones.

But neither the (((Klyntar))) not Eddie remember Peter is Spidey and they don't hate him.

So what's the point?
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>>89368524
No.
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>>89368717
1. Nostalgia
2. Lack of ideas
3. Venom doesn't need Spidey to be good
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>>89368717
Venom will remember, in some form. Just to stalk and hunt Peter again. It's gonna happen.
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>>89368646
"Green Jello" if you don't want to look like a pleb
If you're gonna use the y you put uemlotts on it.
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>>89368524
It's supposedly gonna be explained in the 150th issue special.
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>>89368913
Because they need to pander to old school fans but bendis didn't want them to fix any of the characters they ruined, so they fixed the one character who didn't turn to shit when they got re-identitied, because he was the only one bendis would let them touch. Also because 616 flash is white and that will not do.
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>>89367552
eddie's Catholicism was a good aspect to his character, and turning him into a well-meaning but eccentric preacher could 'heal' both real ailments and 'unnatural' powers was a good concept that could have stood to stick around for a while longer. the salt on the wound was that the reason he had to give up anti-venom went against what we'd been told about how his powers worked and what we know irl about white blood cells and vaccines
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>>89368717
Venom is cool, that is all. People like symbiotes.
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>>89366904
I don't even have an opinion of Flash. You don't need to be a Flashfag to realize that Brock's a terrible character.
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>>89367690
>I googled it and found nothing
Then you're a fucking idiot.
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>>89367258
I've read several Lethal Protector issues. Brock character was hilariously edgy complete with a "DADDY DIDN'T LOVE ME" backstory and a retarded moral code that didn't even make sense. He wasn't quite Kratos or DmC!Donte levels of edge, but he was up there.
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>>89368717
>his whole schtick
that was a schtick. the other schtick, which didn't have much to do with Peter at all issue-to-issue, was that Venom was the 'lethal protector' a monster who targets monsters. more comparable to that show Dexter (as an example) than to Punisher's eternal war on organized crime.
'revenge on Peter' stopped being a big deal when they agreed on a ceasefire in ASM #375
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>>89367876
This is the most likely case. Lee will end up back with the symbiote by the end of the #150 issue (which is coming out immediately after #6, shown in OP).

I could even see Eddie telling the symbiote to go back to Lee, just to show him how to be good. Or some idiotic shit like that.
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>>89368524
Its gonna be told in the #150 issue (which is actually #7 of this book).
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>>89369189

What if the world were made of pudding?
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>>89369384
>Brock character was hilariously edgy complete
You have no idea what the word "edge" means.

campiness =/= edginess

Learn what words mean, dumbass.
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>>89369380
I said that you idiot
>Lee as Venom is shown to be battling Spider-Man in issue 5
Look at the Venom design. That's Lee. It's got the lightning eyes and elbow spikes.
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>>89369594
It's possible to be both edge and camp, genius. Hellsing comes to mind here.

It's just that Venom didn't really do it all that well.
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>>89365504
It was established in Bunn's Venom that Mania's Hell-Mark (which she still currently bears) allows her to control the Monsters of Evils. And yeah Mania isn't brought up at all in that interview. But the Monsters of Evil are and the fact that Bunn wants to have them appear in the book opens up the POSSIBILITY of Mania appearing also.
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>>89363924
>like 3 pages discussing the pros and cons

Because that's what people want to read: discussions of things that have happened.

>to Jubulile
...arn't they overstuffing her with the powers?
>>89363970
God that's awful and continuity breaking in different ways, Damnit.
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Give Venom back to Flash already. He was the best host, everyone fucking knows it.
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>>89369658
>Hellsing

Weebs can just leave.
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>>89369691
I am aware of what happened in Bunn's Venom run. That doesn't change the fact that he said, literally, nothing about Mania in that interview. Nor did he even hint at anything Mania related.
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>>89369380
That's Lee you retard
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>>89369705
>discussions of things that have happened.
You severely lack reading comprehension. You need to be 18 to view this site.
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>>89369705
>and continuity breaking in different ways
So something that has literally never happened before breaks continuity? Care to enlighten us?
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I can replace the writers you have problems with, /co/
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>>89369915
Please do it.
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>On the twitter announcement, the most liked responses are people asking for Flash back

So is Brock only more popular among casuals?
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>>89368557
>>89369447
Hey morons. Remember Angelo Fortuanto? Yeah probably going to be a similar situation for Lee Price. The only difference is Lee may not die because the symbiote is a moralfag now.
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>>89369915
I'll accept your offer if you take Aunt May's soul in return.
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>>89358651
I can live with this. do this please Marvel.
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>>89369900
Right, Toxin had no other character development ever. Forgot he just was created last year. My mistake.
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>>89370043
>>89370000

I want Captain Marvel, Female Thor and Sam Wilson Captain America. Along with Iron Heart and Moon Girl.
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>>89369915
As a born again DC fag, no, please keep bendis away from DC.
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>>89370021
>So is Brock only more popular among casuals?
You have it reversed. Flash is more popular among casuals.
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>>89370101
Ok?
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>>89369422
Damn I loved this issue so much as a kid. That jacket looks fucking cool and Brock looks imposing as shit towering over Spidey.
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>>89370101
deal. Monica Rambaeu, Jane Foster, Sam Wilson, Riri Williams, and Lunella Lafayette are yours.

now get rid of bendis and slott
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>>89370034
>Yeah probably going to be a similar situation for Lee Price.
Screenshot this. I guarantee Lee won't experience anything like Angelo's death. Guarantee it.

>The only difference is Lee may not die
...so then it's nothing like Angelo Fortunato at all, dumbass.
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>>89370162
He can't have Monica fuck you
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>>89370050
And how does this break continuity? Do you know what the word "continuity" means?

Toxin getting a new host doesn't change or alter any of his previous appearances, dingus.
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>>89370114
>>89370126
>>89370162
>>89370194

Deal is done, Slott and Bendis will work for DC only.
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>>89370194
too late. consider yourself lucky I didn't let him rape Mar-Vell
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>>89363970

>After all this time since Pat's offscreen death, finally get used to Brock being Toxin
>Now this shit happens
>Toxin didn't get his own dialogue the entire run.

Just fuck my shit up
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>>89370258
Could've just given him Carol, fuck.
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>>89370254
fuck yeah
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>>89370118
>Flash is more popular among casuals
That couldn't be more wrong.

Why do you think all the Venom merchandise is classic Venom? Because that's all casuals know.
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>>89370277
I actually like Carol. You should have prepared for this possible outcome.
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>>89370176
The point is that Lee, like Angelo, is a temporary host.
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>>89370311
>I actually like Carol
All the more reason for Mephisto to take her from you
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>>89370254
I'm OK with this.

Thanks Mephisto!
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>>89370260
>>Toxin didn't get his own dialogue the entire run.
Except for anytime Brock turned into "Toxin", that was the symbiote talking.
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>>89363970

>That hair
>That face
>Fucking purple/pink
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>>89370308
>Why do you think all the Venom merchandise is classic Venom?
Uhh... its, you know, not.

I think the truth is that you're a casual yourself and zero idea what you're talking about.
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>>89370333
it's called a loophole. if you don't exploit at least one when making a deal with a devil you're just not showing proper respect
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>>89370348

The only time that applied was the "Brock isn't here" line, after that it was just Brock talking.
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>>89370324
So are tons of people. Are you aware of all the hosts the symbiote had between the time that it broke out of the Baxter building and Web of #1?

That doesn't make them anything alike. Nor does it make the story anything similar to Angelo's.
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>>89357880

Hell yes!
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>>89370378
C would be perfect for a time travel story where they got send to the wild west
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>>89359595
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>>89370435
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>Its a Flash vs Eddie thread again
Jesus Christ /co/, you're both pretty. Look, Eddie was stagnant until Anti Venom, and Flash went to shit the same time he fucked off into space.
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>>89370435
>>89370467

Wow, Carol seemed tolerable here compared to now
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>>89369837
I linked the interview because of Bunn saying he wanted to have the Monsters of Evil appear in the book. I didn't link it because I thought it had anything to do with Mania. Mania appearing in the book was more fan speculation on my part due to Mania's connection with them, sorry for the confusion.
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>>89358041
I said it from issue one, the whole thing was a bait and switch.

You were SUPPOSED to hate the new host, he was just there to make the Symbiote less goody-goody and also to die and make you feel good when Brock reclaimed it.
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>>89370218

It sure as fuck changes his established personality. Remember when he didn't want to be a monster like his dad? Remember how hard he tried to do the right thing? Pat wasn't in control of Toxin ether, it was all Toxin.
Toxin was a character of his own.
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>>89370382
Not that anon you're arguing with. But where could I get that figure?
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>>89370382
Of course there's still gonna be some Agent Venom stuff, especially when he's on the Ultimate cartoon, but the vast majority of stuff has classic Venom imagery.
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>>89370518
Thats because Marvel forgot Ms Murder was best Carol
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>>89370600
Well, can't we have her back?
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>>89370566
>It sure as fuck changes his established personality
Except it doesn't. We have no idea what the internal dialogue between Jubilele and the symbiote is like.
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>>89370491
>Flash went to shit the same time he fucked off into space.

The worst part of this was it had so much potential, even the Klyntar and agent of the cosmos shit. Symbiotes come from space so it makes sense for them to get stories there. But fuck the writing was so bad.
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>>89370566
>Remember when he didn't want to be a monster like his dad?
Remember how different hosts affect their symbiotes?

Remember how the Venom symbiote didn't want to be a monster or do anything evil until it met Brock?

This isn't continuity breaking in any way, moron. If anything, it completely follows established continuity.
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>>89370382
You have to be an idiot if you honestly believe Brock Venom merch still isn't being made in droves or hot shit years later. Hell, they're still making Anti-Venom merch.
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>>89370566
Toxin being different you can attribute to Blackheart doing shit to it, even if it was off screen. I still miss Toxin's old character though.
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>>89370597
Right, because Eddie sells more than Flash does.

And this has always been the case.
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>>89370660
I think he just misses Pat Toxin.

>>89370685
I miss his old character as well. And his Spider-Man look.
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>>89370611
Not unless the movie does it so Marvel can later rip it off
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>>89370660
>didn't want to do anything evil until it met Brock

Holy fuck does no one read comics. Did you forget the whole reason the symbiote bonded to Eddie was because he hated Spider-Man and also wanted him dead?
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>>89370586
It was a walgreens exclusive. I don't think it's in stores anymore, but you can get the Marvel Select Agent Venom off of Marvel's online store.
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>>89370491
I knew it was going to happen the moment I found about the news. Though to be honest it's not as bad as I thought. I was expecting stuff like "LOL Flashfags BTFO".
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>>89370703
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>>89370665
That isn't some magic qualifier that means that only casuals like Eddie, though. More, its proof that not enough people give a shit about Flash to make any actual difference.
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>>89370696
>Exactly, because casuals love classic Venom. You're only proving my point.
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Hey remember last issue when the first page had all symbiotes wearing the spider logo on different alien species? Cant remember when an issue went full retard that fast
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>>89370747
That bothered the fuck out of me.

This was better
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>>89370722
Hey, the movie can only help Carol at this point
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>>89370628
Eh, the first arc was boring, but I thought it got really good after the first arc with the lame space pirate ended. The fact that Robbie Thompson reintroduced Mania at all shows that he respected the character. It seems he just had to clean up after Bendis left him in space.
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>>89370737
>casuals love classic Venom

They only love the suit. They don't give a shit or even know who's inside it.
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>>89364656
>me
you mean me
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>>89370711
>Did you forget the whole reason the symbiote bonded to Eddie was because he hated Spider-Man and also wanted him dead?

Once again, you show you have no idea what you're talking about. The symbiote loved Peter. Even after he rejected it... twice. See pic related. But I wouldn't expect a filthy casual like yourself to have any clue about this.

It bonded to Eddie because it wanted a host who actually wanted to be bonded to it.
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>>89370776
I was talking about all the issues with Flash in space, GotG, Space Knight, and anything else I missed.
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>>89370798
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>>89370777
>implying this doesn't also apply to Agent Venom

BLACK CALL OF DUTY SPIDEY SO COOL
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>>89370798
But anon, those old comics don't matter and they're no longer canon cause "lol rebuilt universe". Try watching TAS to see what the writers get their Venom from.
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>>89370747
>Cant remember when an issue went full retard that fast
How about the summary on page #1 of Costa's first issue. Sentence #1 is incorrect, saying the symbiote increased Spider-Man's aggression. Outside of cartoons and the movie, literally never happened.

Literally the first thing you read in Costa's book was wrong.
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>>89370764
Those aren't' even actual symbiotes. Those were artificial and created by Doctor Doom.
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>>89370798
>>89370823
These pages prove nothing, especially when the symbiote was supposed to die and never come back right then. You might want to actually read those early Venom books instead of cherry picking your favorite PeterXVenom pages.
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>>89370518
>compared to now
KSD's run ended ages ago.
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>>89370378
A B and D are the only good ones.
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>>89370420
>C would be perfect for a time travel story where they got send to the wild west

Dammit now I want to see Mania in one of those big frilly dresses from that time period.
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>>89370876
Even Venom's children didn't have Spider logos. Scream, Carnage, Toxin, etc.
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>>89370825
People only know about Agent Venom beecause of the cartoon. I doubt most casualfags would even know who he is if it wasn't for USM.

>>89370851
Wasn't the symbiote making Peter more aggro later retconned into the comics after TAS and Spider Man 3?
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>>89370892
>These pages prove nothing
Then you're a blind moron.

>You might want to actually read those early Venom books
You should take some of your own advice, anon. Its painfully clear you haven't read them. Wikis aren't the best place to get all your info from, you know.
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>>89370907
>Flash and Mania in Wild Guns
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>>89370804
I was too. Like I said, the last 7 issues of Spaceknight were really enjoyable. Thompson did the best he could with what he was given, he just had to maneuver around Bendi's bullshit. The ending is obvious he wanted to do a Mania and Agent Venom story the whole time.
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>>89370928
>Wasn't the symbiote making Peter more aggro later retconned into the comics after TAS and Spider Man 3?

Nope. Only happened in AUs, like Ultimate Spider-Man.
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>>89370938
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>>89370928
>Wasn't the symbiote making Peter more aggro later retconned into the comics after TAS and Spider Man 3?
No
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>>89370907
>>89370938
>>89370990
So would >>89364546 take the place of the dog in the new version?
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>>89370913
Oh, I agree. My point was, if you wanted to show native symbiotes and how they don't have the spider logo, there are better examples. Like pic related.
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>>89370937
I'm sorry you've wasted all your time writing PeterXVenom fan fics and begging Peter would bond with Venom again on Twitter to Slott and Bendis.
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>>89371039
Wasn't there an alien that fed on the symbiote species? I feel like there's planets full of symbiotes. The degenerates mostly all over the place.
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>>89371032
Sure why not
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>>89371067
>cherry picking
Ironic, huh?

There is a reason why pic related happened, moron. But, once again, having not actually read any comics, you wouldn't know about this.
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>>89371067
So I guess we're completely gonna disregard the entire beach fight
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>>89371039
>>89371123
Proof that the Venom lore was only good when Brock was Venom. This is a good thing, /co/ don't fight it.
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>>89371136

>>89371123
>Wasn't there an alien that fed on the symbiote species?
Yup, the Xenomoprh. That's him in your pic. He's from Venom: The Hunted. Actually a really cool story. Scream is in it, too.
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>>89371169
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>>89371136
>posting the origin of a character is cherry picking

woo lad
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>>89371163
>>89371169
I'm going to read it. thanks anon.
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>>89371203
>recap page
>origin
wew
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>>89371198
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>>89371169
>the Xenomoprh

Xenophage.
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>>89371136
>>89371169
>>89371198

See now this is cherry picking. You just posted one of the earliest and only Venom stories where they toyed around with the symbiote caring for Peter. After this, it never tried to bond with Peter again over love. This was it's last straw and completely devouted itself to Eddie afterwards.
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>>89371231
>Xenophage
Oh shit, that was a bad slip up on my part. Yeah, definitely Xenophage.

>>89371261
>See now this is cherry picking.
Still you. Using a recap page.

>You just posted one of the earliest and only Venom stories where they toyed around with the symbiote caring for Peter.
Ok, how about when Eddie left it for a short while, it tried to get the closest thing it could to Peter: Ben Reilly and bonded to him for a short time? That was years after the fact.

Or the fact that one of the faces it replicates during Separation Anxiety is of Peter's. Does that count?
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>>89371345
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>>89371345
>Or the fact that one of the faces it replicates during Separation Anxiety is of Peter's.
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>>89357979
>post 2010 Marvel

No.
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>>89371428
Not any of the ones you're arguing against, but what's the point of this one? Why is it remaking their faces?
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>>89370614
We haven't seen ANY dialogue from the symbiote Toxin. That's the problem.
There are/have been opportunities to do this and they haven't done it.

>>89370660
>Remember how different hosts affect their symbiotes?

You mean Venom, the only one who's been on multiple people. Two at the same time if you count Mania. But I'll let you tell me how the hosts affected the symbiote (Venom) differently.

>Remember how the Venom symbiote didn't want to be a monster or do anything evil until it met Brock?

I remember that part of Venom dying saving Pete from the church bell while the other half fell though the floor of the steeple and onto Brock.

>completely follows established continuity.
Only if we where following Venom continuity, but apparently you never read Toxin's book so there you go.

>>89370685
> even if it was off screen.
They could have had a whole arc devoted to the mind rape and spirit braking of Toxin which led to the death of Pat. Nope, he ded of screen lol.
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>>89371345
>bonded to Ben Reilly

You're equating "disguising himself as his hoodie to stay close to Eddie" as bonding? And shape shifting itself as love? Does it love the doctor too?
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Slightly related. Was Scott Washington AKA hybrid black?
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>>89370701
>I think he just misses Pat Toxin.

He was a newborn trying to better himself in a world that hated him.
It could have been so good anon. so good.
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>>89371591
Yeah
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>>89371565
>You're equating "disguising himself as his hoodie to stay close to Eddie" as bonding?

It attaches to Ben, so yeah. It bonds with him for a short time. When it does so, it wasn't anywhere near Eddie.

They eventually meet up later and the symbiote returns to Brock. But the intention was never "to stay close to Eddie".
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>>89371594
Maybe in another timeline..
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>>89371591
Imagine if they killed him now? People would go nuts
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>>89371745
Not enough people even know who Hybrid is. Nothing would come of it.
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>>89371454
>post 2003 Marvel

FTFY
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>>89371793
Him being black is good enough.
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>>89371932
No. Hybrid is less popular than Night Thrasher. And no one would give a fuck if the current Night Thrasher got killed.
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>>89371957
>Hybrid is less popular than Night Thrasher.

There's no justice in this world.
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>>89360263
They need him to appear in the new marvel game
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>>89366387
What would Carnage call Mania? Ben Reily and Kaine are clones of Peter and they have often been referred to as brothers of Peter and uncles if Peter were to have any children. So maybe Carnage would consider Mania an aunt, since Mania is a clone of Venom?
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>>89372127
Most likely aunt Mania.
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>>89372127
I predict hick incest jokes
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>>89365621
What about Avengers or Uncanny Avengers?
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>>89358052
>he's losing that symbiote too.
Are they going to kill off Toxin too?
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>>89364696
>>89372127

Mania and Hummingbird adventures when?
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>>89372528
Up to Kaine if he allows her to go.
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>>89372559
Mania and Hummingbird adventures getting into Speedball's pants.
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>>89372742
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>>89370907
six trillion hours in mspaint
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>>89372742
>quest to get into speedball's pants
>not inviting squirrel girl
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>>89373794
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>>89373794
Give her one of those big hats.
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>>89373794
Can you make the background a dark blue or something? It's kind of hard to see her
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>>89370435
>>89370467
But how would that work? The symbiote is fused at a molecular level with it's host. It shouldn't be as easy as "Pulling him out of the suit".
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>>89373794
Can you change the background to a different color, maybe to something lighter?
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>>89375023
The symbiote really just wanted off Mac and onto Carol. Can't blame it.
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>>89375053
Wait, why is it HUGE on her? She isn't swole AF.
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>>89375118
>She isn't swole AF.
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>>89375151
Now compare that to Spider-Man's body and the body of Scorpion.
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>>89375118
Given the way it was talking that issue it probably shapeshifted her a dick to fuck Pete with too.
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>>89359584
I hope that black cat didn't pay for that dumb armor
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>>89375197
You would think that he wouldn't be such a screw up considering his creation was to be "Spider-Man, but stronger and with weapons". At least Human Fly has excuse of different strong points.
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>>89375246
He may be stronger but Gargan's an idiot. You could probably put him in Tony's bleeding edge, superior, whatever his current best armor is and he'd still lose to Pete cause he's an idiot.
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>>89375301
I bet he would take the fucking jaw off the first moment he could
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>>89375197
Nah, it's the same armor he had from when Alchemax hired him.
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I saw this chuckled.
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>>89358222
Just need some Doctor Nemesis' touch
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>>89359921
you're just reminding me that we'll never get a The Darkness 3(or even just a HD remaster of Darkness 2), and that makes me sad
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>>89377100
Thansk
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>>89359212
What if Flash helps Toxin to rescue Pat?
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>>89360497
>The symbiote is being 100% out of character and has never once been such a bitch.

To expand on this, the symbiote has shown multiple times that it's usually the one in control, or at least, the relationship between the symbiote and it's host will be 50-50, with no true superiors, but most of the time, it's the symbiote calling the shots.

Pic related. When Venom got fed up over it's host being a weakling, it just outright left him to die. There's no reason for the symbiote to be the slave of some random host, with the flimsy excuse that the host is a military vet expert on some sort of psychological bullshit.

>>89362211

Wouldn't be the first time a character development's went down the drain in comics. Tony Stark in particular even had his fucking memory of the Civil War wiped away.
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>>89375023
>But how would that work?
Shitty writing. That's how.
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>>89375118
It was the age of "Venom is a generic monster!" and artists always drew the symbiote all hulked out.
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>>89375181
>and the body of Scorpion
Ignore Sandoval's rendition of Gargan entirely. He draws fucking everyone jacked, even if they shouldn't be. Even fricken Wiccan.
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>>89373872
Why would you want to invite Squirrel Girl? She's ugly and would steal the spotlight from Mania and Hummingbird.
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>>89378779

Though Mac being jacked at least makes sense and isn't entirely unprecedented.
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>>89379452
Not for uncostumed Mac.
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>>89379452
>>89379802
didn't everyone used to be fairly jacked?
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>>89380038
Uhh... no.
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>>89360074
>Costa's a fucking hack so no. Can't wait for him to write Eddie as an edgelord instead of kind of a well-meaning brickhead.
wasn't part of the point of the character that he was kind of an asshole who wouldn't accept responsibility for his actions?
I mean, the thing he hated Spider-Man for was bringing down a serial killer, because it revealed that Eddie had been printing the confessions of a fraud.
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>>89380171
well, as a kid I seem to recall just about every guy in comics, apartt from civilians being drawn with some sort of body-builder physique.
Scorpion here looks like a guy who never skipped leg day
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>>89380345
>Being this casual

Just admit you don't know a fuckin' thing about Gargan. Or any Spidey villain for that matter.
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>>89358041
People called it back during issues 1 and 2, but Lee is literally a diversionary tactic so people will REJOICE that BASED EDDIE IS BACK and forget that they liked Flash.

It's not going to work terribly well aside from speculators buying a FUCKLOAD of the first few issues. The actual fans aren't that stupid, and are just going to bitch about what happened to Flash and complain about how nuEddie sucks.
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>>89359147
Because "muh nostalgia", honestly.

The number of people here who caved just because Marvel is pandering to them is disgusting.
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>>89377100
Eddie Brock & Venom = OTP
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>>89382497
I can't tell if you're trying to be a parody of the more retarded side of superhero fans, or if you're the real thing
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>>89360535
The comic we're talking about treats TAS as canon, recapping that the symbiote made Peter "aggressive."
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>>89382676
I'm being serious.

You know literally nothing about Scorpion's origin. He wasn't jacked at all (pic related).

Stop being a stupid nigger. Not all of Spider-Man's rogues were roided out. Have you never heard of, oh, "Vulture"?
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>>89383443
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>>89383443
>Not all of Spider-Man's rogues were roided out.
I said, "just about", so mentioning one or two exceptions isn't some contradiciton.

That picture's from about 40 fucking years ago, and it's before he even got super-powers.
Gargan has been a big guy for most of his publishing history.

>>89383443
>You know literally nothing about Scorpion's origin.
It's been about 20 years since I read it, but as I recall he was hired by Jameson, who also sponsored the process that gave him superpowers, and that the guy who gave him his powers died(didn't he fall to his death?).
So I literally, do know something about his origins.
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>>89384732
>just about

So "just about" excludes:

>Vulture
>Chameleon
>Dock Ock
>The Rose
>Crime Master
>Fancy Dan
>Montana
>Silvermane
>Kingpin
>Styx
>Cardiac
>Tinkerer
>Spencer Smythe

And many, many more, right?

Just admit it, you've no fucking clue what you're talking about.
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>>89384890
The Enforcers and Kingpin are healthy bodied.
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>>89384732
>Gargan has been a big guy for most of his publishing history

This is objectively wrong. Literally one post before yours shows this isn't the case. He's a decidedly "average joe" when out of costume.
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>>89384931
That's one page, from one comic, it doesn't count for much.
To the best of my knowledge the Scorpion costume isn't a muscle suit, it's skintight and conforms to his physique.
If you want to show that he's been built like an average joe for most of his existence, post a couple of pages from different eras where he's not big-built
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>>89384890
I didn't mean just Spider-Man villains though, I was talking about guys in superhero comics in general.

And how much presence did the Enforcers really have? Did they honestly make any kind of regular appearances in Spider-Man comics past the 1960s?
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>>89385890
>That's one page, from one comic
Then go read some fuckin' comics with Gargan in it. This is pretty consistent through his entire history.

If you'd bother, you know, actually reading comics, you'd know this.
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>>89385890
>the Scorpion costume isn't a muscle suit
It hasn't been for like 2 decades. Its mechanized armor. Read a comic.
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>>89386215
>Did they honestly make any kind of regular appearances in Spider-Man comics past the 1960s?

Uhh... yeah, they do.
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>>89386987
I've read comics with Gargan in them, though admittedly not that many. He's usually been a big guy, outside of his earliest appearance, and his more recent post-Venom ones.

>>89387002
Learn to read, moron. I said that it wasn't a fucking muscle suit. And the image I was linking to, is of his classic outfit, a skintight outfit that shows what his body looks like.

>>89387031
Really? When? Because I saw them show up in a bunch of the early stories reprinted in the essntials volumes, then didn't see them anywhere else until more recently when they showed up in Daredevil or something more recently, and Ultimate Spider-Man which is a different continuity
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