>Doesn't matter if he's a mass murderer who has

why doesnt batman just rape the jester

Bruce would've been okay with Robin killing Joker, but he wanted Bruce to do it

Bruce doesn't want to kill anyone because he thinks it's a slippery slope that'll end with him gutting street thugs

>>89312810
Bruce is borderline insane and probably wouldn't be able to stop himself from killing again and again.

Nothing would have stopped Jason from shooting Joker in the head and leaving his body in a back alley. It could have been done if he wasn't so determined for bat-daddy to prove his love.

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>>89312810
It's simple
Every time Batman is confronted with death, he turns back into that scared little 8 year old boy who's crying in front of his parent's corpses screaming "Nooooo!"
So he won't let anyone die
Literally a fucking manchild

>>89313380
>>89313639
So much this. Jason was an idiot trying to shoot J in front of Bats, he has terrible Daddy issues

>>89312810
Why doesn't he just send the Joker to the Phantom Zone?

>>89313740
Reminded that in nearly every fantasy Bruce had of being happy, it involved him being 8 years old again, with his parents alive, and retaining his innocence. This is why Bruce will never be happy

>>89314078
So basically time stopped for him at the age of eight?

Because then we don't get any more interesting stories about the Joker you enormous autist.

>>89313639
>Bruce is borderline insane and probably wouldn't be able to stop himself from killing again and again.
I fucking hate this excuse. If he really is borederline fucking crazy than why the fuck should he be allowed to dress up as a fucking bat and beat the shit out of criminals? Or have access to secrets that could start wars or get people killed?

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>>89314049
Fuck

That's actually not a bad idea

>>89314261
Trauma's a funny thing.

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>>89314049
Huh

>>89312810
>ignoring the fact DC is literally a constant cosmic battle of order and chaos

Learn the source material before you ask why fgt

>>89314049
He'd probably think it too inhumane. That the PZ is only for Doomsday level monsters.

>>89313740
It's really that simple. Don't know why some people try to overthink it.

>>89314758

>too inhumane
>for the Joker

Ridiculous.

>>89315020
To Batman it would be.

>>89312810
I know Batman is above killing but what about a little maiming or crippling?

I mean shit, Jokester isn't going to get up to much if he don't go no feet or hands

Or just give him the ol Dr Bane's All Natural Remedy

There's quite a lot you can do before you're strictly killing people

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>>89315039
>Sending Joker to a place he can't escape from, hurt anyone, or be hurt is inhumane
>Beating the shit out of him and sending him to fucking ARKHAM inhumane central is a ok
Fuck Bruce's faggotry.

>>89312810
>Rape
He doesn't rape because to him it wouldn't be funny

This is a perfect example of a writer creating a counterpoint that just makes way more sense than the intended lesson.

>>89314358
You try to stop him

>>89313026
I want Garth Ennis to write a story about Batman going crazy from laughing gas and raping the Joker.

>>89315351
And he thinks it's Robin the entire time.

Now THAT's edgy

>>89315173
>he can't escape from
There have been plenty of escapees from the Phantom Zone.

>>89312810
The real question is why doesn't the state execute the joker?

>>89315515
Like Arkham is better?

Why doesn't the joker just kill himself?

Jason didn't believe in or even care about whatever shit he was shoveling, he was just another nutball only trying to fuck with Batman. If Bruce had given in Jason would have left Gotham by sunup and the power vacuum he left behind would have destroyed the city by sundown.

>>89315930
He did in TDKR

So Batman doesn't want to kill, I get that.

...why not cut off Joker's arms and legs?

>>89315039
>>89314758
Isn't this the same Batman that killed Amazons because "It's war"?

Because he's a character intended to be a model of behaviour for boyscouts, like most cape heroes.

>>89312810
> once you cross the line of killing one person no matter the situation or reason including self defense we'll you see it's pretty impossible not to kill everyone else

Batman was only talking about himself. He wasn't talking about society.

>>89316163
He specifically said he wouldn't kill even though there was a war on, at least read the comics you're citing (even if they're wank like Amazon's Attack).

>>89316123
He might not be able to stop himself from cutting off everyone's arms and legs.

Grant Morrison logic: If Batman's power is being Batman, then his kyrptonite would be killing. So if he did kill, the story would be ridiculed for it (like BvS), and end up noncanon in some way (Batman stops being Batman, killed, or just ignored).

>>89315653
Because Batman would break Joker out if the state ever decided to kill him, Batman doesn't want to live in a world without the Joker.

>>89312810
Batman is correct. It is not his place to select who dies, regardless of how obvious it feels.

It is Gotham's. No city should stand for criminals just walking out of jail every week. Of him not going to some supermax somewhere. Of not being sentenced to death, or sent to Guantanamo Bay for terrorism.

Gotham is shit. Batman's doin just fine.

>>89315126
you see the joker is TOO INSANE to be crippled!!
his CRAZY brain would still send the signals to his limbs letting him keep going!

>>89314049

Because it's not up to him.

>>89312810
Bruce knows if he starts killing he won't be able to stop. Why do people have problems understanding that? Autism?

>>89316753
Kek

>>89314358
for the same reason
because he's obsessively committed to not killing anyone or even hurting them too badly, and he's never slipped up as far as I know

>>89312810
can't go a fucking day without this kind of thread

>>89314049
You are talking about the guy who wouldn't even let Superman and the rest of the Justice League transport criminals out of Arkham and to a secure facility. He needs criminals, he thrives on it. A world with order and peace is not one for Batman because he would have to abandon the only thing that keeps him from having a total mental breakdown.

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>>89315126
Honestly, Joker would probably still be a threat even if he was crippled. It's not like he's a physical threat to Batman, he's about as helpless as a cripple when it comes time for his ass-kicking anyway. He'd probably still mastermind his schemes and manipulate proxies to carry them out.

>>89316070
>Jason didn't believe in or even care about whatever shit he was shoveling, he was just another nutball only trying to fuck with Batman.
That was the most disappointing thing about the ending, I mean aside from his lame-ass explanation of Batman's rule - when he seemed to genuinely want to control organized crime, he actually made for an interesting foil to Batman, and raised some real questions. And then he threw it all away because it was all just an insane long-shot gambit to set up his dream revenge fantasy.

>>89314358
>allowed

Have at 'im, see how far you get.

>>89314358
It's not who's gonna allow him.
It's who's gonna stop him.

>>89312810
I feel like this is Batman's one character flaw though.
Like, he's got so much plot armor, this is the thing that makes him vulnerable; his logic is flawed. His parents were murdered as a kid, and now the thought of taking a life makes him queasy.

Look at TDKR, at the end the Joker is basically taunting him for being too much of an old bitch to finish the job. It's stupid, but it's an aspect of the character I kinda like.

But then again, a lot of writers write it as "YOU SHOULDN'T EVER KILL, EVEN AS A LAST RESORT" moral lesson rather than a way to explore Bats' motives in an interesting way.

>>89314358
Batman is basically a nonlethal version of the Punisher.
Yeah, Superman or Gordon could just go "you know what, this IS technically against the law, I'm gonna stop you", but they know him well enough to know that doing so would be way more trouble than it's worth.

>>89315653
Gotham's home state doesn't have the death penalty?

From memory that lame fucking story where the one time they decide to fry the freak, Bats has to save him because he was framed only got that far because it involved the postal service and thus became a federal level crime.

>>89316935
Morrison is a fucking idiot.

>>89314326
>interesting stories
>the Joker

Why don't the city execute Joker? Batman did his job bringing Joker in.

>>89324797
More importantly, why don't random beat cops "accidentally" shoot him after he's in custody

They can write away official killings, but isn't it strange that the most corrupt police force in the world isn't bad enough for that?

>>89324888
They're not the most corrupt though. Hub City and Bludhaven's police departments are both objectively dirtier than Gotham's, at least since Gordon took over.

>>89324888
>hundreds and hundreds of black people being shot ranging from minor altercations to full out assault
>not one writer has had some nervous as fuck cop jump the gun and blast his pasty asshole away

Does Gotham even take place in the US? Is the city corrupt as fuck and yet has an angelic police department?

>>89324888
Especially with New 52 Joker being a massive cop killer.

>>89325015
Joker is actually a black man who bleached his skin to make the cops incapable of shooting him.

>>89315515
Like who?

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>>89324888
>>89325015
Joker has as much plot armor as Batman.

Why doesn't Bats just break Joker's back and legs.

Has Batman ever asked Superman to lock Joker away in the Phantom Zone?

>>89313740
Yeah, when you think about it its a huge weakness, which is something Batgod really needs to balance against all the crazy shit he pulls off

>>89325080
>Joker is Michael Jackson
So much is explained

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>>89314358
>allowed

>>89314326
We haven't gotten any interesting Joker stories since Joker became as much of an author's pet as Batgod.

>>89312810
Why isn't Gotham quaranteened off from the rest of the world?

>>89317806
Because it's stupid when Batman goes out of his way to stop Joker from being killed by others.

>>89328983
And when was that for Joker?

>>89329222
When fans of TAS grew up and went into the industry.

>>89329311
Examples from said fans?

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>another vigilante kills the Joker
>everyone in Gotham loves him for doing so
>Batman starts tracking down and plans to defeat and turn in the other vigilante
>the public turns on Batman and sees him as a villain persecuting a hero

Would you read it /co/?

>>89329634
>In the end, Batman accepts what the vigilante did
>Seeks him out to apologize for other actions
>Goes to shake hand
>Pan up
>The vigilante is the joker.

>>89312810
it's not his job, and it's not his responsibility to kill the joker no more than it is the responsibility of all gcpd cops or really any citizen of gotham.

>>89314078
not true, there are some worlds in which he finds love and has kids and shit

>>89312810