Logan Is Not Set In The X-Men Universe, Says Hugh Jackman >When

>>89309946
I don't mind this. It's obvious that ALL the X-Men (sans Logan and Xavier) are dead. So having it be an alternate tineline story is okay since it means we can have another movie with Cyclops or Nightcrawler (hopefully they won't fuck it up this time).

Plus it worked for Deadpool. Deadpool is pretty self-contaied and can take place in any continuity.

>>89309946
since fox always ignores the movies before it, isnt this just business as usual?

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Will they reference what happened to the other X-men at the school? They've seemingly written-out the presence of most other mutants anyway, right there is a pretty good way to do it.
Disappointed they've dropped the apocalyptic setting, but seeing as basically every other character in Old Man Logan is MCU territory its not surprising - they'd have to come up with a lot of replacements for Hulk and so on.

They just keep accepting that their movies and universe have been shit, this gives me some hope because Fox hasn't made a good mutie movie since X2

>>89309946
Man, I love that X-Men movie continuity is so messed up. Keeping it true to the comics.

>>89311217
Its really not that messed up at all desu. There are two timelines: Original X-Men trilogy+Origins, which leads to the evil DoFP future with Sentinels. Then, there's the First Class/DofP/Apocalypse/Deadpool timeline, which is the timeline that leads to the immediately "good" future at the end of DofP, which apparently then leads on into Logan.

This meme that it's confusing is totally retarded.

At this point I don't even give a shit about timelines, I just want a good wolverine movie.

>>89309946
Its not that hard of a concept. /co/ has been saying it from the beginning. She will get aged up and sent to the current Xmen timeline to replace Logan as Wolverine on the team.

>>89310966
>this gives me some hope because Fox hasn't made a good mutie movie since X2
Days of future past was at least on par with x2, and deadpool was certainly better.

>>89310693
Ooh I bet Picard is suppressing Logan's memory and when he dies at the low point of the film, Logan will suddenly remember everything he did.
Who would have fooled him though, hmmm.

>>89311573
I don't really count Deadpool as an X-men film, it was a Deadpool movie with two X-men characters. And Dofp had two worth while scenes, the rest of the film is painfully forgettable

>>89311573
desu, x2 (outside of the wolvie beserk scene and anything with brian cox) doesnt hold up well. and dofp is a good film, but a terrible x-men movie. they still havent made a good x-men movie, just one with those characters names and powers in it.

also deadpool wont hold up in the future, its very of the time with its family guy-tear jokes

>>89309946
At this point, Fox should just give the X-Men Film rights back to Marvel. It would be the polite and right thing to do (the X-Men belong back home anyway).

>>89309946
Please just give the rights back

>>89311692
Slapstick doesn't ever age.

>>89311761
Go the fuck away MCUfag. No Marvel reader wants that. Current Marvel movies and comics are by and large trash.

>>89311793
but still better than Xmen movies. Which says a lot about them.

>>89311692
>x2 (outside of the wolvie beserk scene and anything with brian cox) doesnt hold up well
This.

I can remember when it was being considered the pinnacle of the comicbook movies.

>>89309946
ITS CONFIRMED
RIGHTS REVERTED BACK TO MARVEL
LOGAN TAKES PLACE IN MCU
IN MARVEL WE TRUST

>>89311910
No, DoFP is better than about any MCU movie.

>>89311910
No. The Xmen movies aside from X3 have been better than any MCU movie except Iron Man 1.

Get some taste. A movie needs a beginning middle and end. Not just a beginning and ends in the middle of the plot.

>>89311761
>>89311783
No you faggots. I don't want one single company having monopoly over everything, competition is good.

>>89311956
Hawkeye confirmed?

>>89311971
Winter Soldier was at least on the level of DoFP.
Maybe Civil War.

>>89311793
>being this much of a Foxshill
The MCU is literally the greatest. Eveyone loves it (well, everyone with taste). And the MCU has literally never had a bad movie. Just look at Rotten Tomatoes.
FoX-Men has had several bad movies on rotten tomatoes.

Therefore, the X-Men would be better off in the MCU

>>89312017
>bait 2/10

>>89311984
But anon that's why the DCEU exists.

>>89311974
X-Men Apocalypse ha a rotten score and is lower than Man of Steel and The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

The MCU all have fresh movies on RT.

Therefore, the MCU has never had a bad movie. While Fox has had several.

>>89311984
The MCU had no "competition" until 2016 and they were just as great then as they are now

movie ends with everyone dying and logan sending x-23 to the past/main timeline

screenshot this

>>89311984
But since FoX-Men and the MCU movies have ties to Marvel Comics, aren't they just competing against themselves.

>>89311984
Even if the company makes good quality movies ad would do the frachise right?

Just sayin.

>>89311497
Well it seems like people just didnt know how it would work out before days of future past then after that came out some of those same people didnt bother trying to understand it so shout overcomplicated at every turn.

>>89312012
Bullshit

WS and CW were MUCH better than that piece of shit

>>89312033
>implying

>>89312071
Too late bitch
>>89311554

>>89312061
they had competition, just no cinematic universe competition.

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Give me a X Men movie with manlet Canadian Wolverine complete with costume and maybe I'll care. Also how are you anons coping with no Mister Sinister?

>>89312111
>WS
>the movie that didnt even resolve its plot
>the movie that couldnt even progress one character
>the movie with some of the worst shakey cam quick cuts in recent film history
>Good

Oh I am laffin.

>>89312074
Very little of the money they make actually goes to Marvel Comics, most of it goes to the movie studios who don't give a shit what company created the characters.
>>89312082
By not being apart of MCU there's a chance they can take risks that Disney might not allow, like with Deadpool and Logan being rated R. MCU's most risky stuff is with Netflix but they don't even acknowledge that as part of the universe.

To end all the faggotry in this thread:
The X-Men movies have highs and lows.
The MCU movies have highs and lows.
You can enjoy both.

>>89312122
i actually saw it, not imagining things.

>>89312158
Yeah that movie made a bunch of people in my theater physically ill. They had to put a warning on the door that if you are disoriented easily please be advised.

>>89312231
That makes the fact that I was right without seeing it even more impressive.

>>89312158
And still better than anything else they've done.

>>89312142
>Also how are you anons coping with no Mister Sinister?
Disapointed. At least there isn't more Magneto wanking.
Also
>Wolverine literally picks up an X-Men comic.
>"Maybe a quarter of it happened."
>"And not like this."
I wish it did happen like that, Logan. That comic looked more fun then all the FoX-Men films.

>>89312158
>Foxshills are this desperate to insult WS
You are almost as cute as the ten DCEUfags.

>>89312142
>>89312288
>No Mister Sinister
Isn't he coming for the new X-Men/New Mutants film?
I'm more sad that they'll probably never touch stuff like Mojo and Spiral.

>>89312231
How do they send her back through time?

>>89312322
No one has to try to insult Winter Solider. If you are over 18 and didn't walk out of that movie laughing you have terrible taste.

>>89312387
It was a good movie in my opinion.
I also thought DoFP was good.

We don't need to be fags over this.

>>89312387
If you're over 18 and care about superhero movies at all then you probably shouldn't be talking.

>>89312338
Even if he was coming, theyre never doing the costume

>>89312417
What're you in for?

>>89309946
Good, maybe you autists obsessed with continuity will shut the fuck up now and just watch the movie.

>>89312387
Rotten Tomateoss says otherwise.

But I can understand why someone as autistic like you wouldn't like it. Bayformers seems more suited for your small intellect. ;^)

>>89312427
One of the sad parts of comic to movie adaptions.
Although Marvel and DC are getting a bit better about this.

>>89312347
if i tell it spoils the whole movie and a big twist

>>89312017

Bait. But the Thor films and Iron Man sequels are much worse than their RT scores show

>>89312492
I don't mind

Just put it in spoiler tags if you want

>>89311984
That's what DC is for numbnuts.

>>89312122
>>89312071
>>89311554
nope

she murders Xavier at the top of the third act, after he's given this big speech to Logan about doing something that matters and raising the girl to be something other than a weapon like Sinister wanted/paramilitary like Xavier did with the X-Men, Logan kills the remaining Reavers and then fucks off with Laura to be her daddy

no sequel, no comebacks, no age-ups (which is retarded, by the way, because why even bother going to the expense of hiring a child in a leading role when they can only work a 20-hour week maximum and they're in nearly every scene and a whole lot of CGI crap, then replace her with an adult actress on another movie with a convoluted as shit time-travel device that has nothing to do with the story Logan is telling, if you could just hire an 18-year-old and pretend she's 15 like they do with LITERALLY EVERY OTHER X-MEN MOVIE), no nothing

it's just a movie with an end that was supposed to cap off the series, but i guess Jackman's too greedy to know when to quit

hope he tears a rotator cuff on Deadpool 2 and never walks right again

>>89312535
Says YOU. Some of us love the Thor an Iron Man movies (I.e. this with taste).

>>89312082
Disney would never make an R-rated comic book movie. There's no way the Deadpool movie that came out would have ever gotten made under Disney, nor this new Logan movie. They won't even allow their Netflix shows to say fuck.

>>89312581
none of this is true.

>>89312582
t. Disney intern

>>89312581
How sad is your life that you just took the time to make all that up?

>>89312581
I could see this happening

>>89312655
Disney doesn't need to

They can just settle for making a GOOD movie

>>89312451
I'm an omnipotent god from the 4th dimension. Why should I care what some human tomatoes think?

>>89312558
he's a lying faggot, don't encourage him.

>>89312683
t. Foxshill

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>>89312712
:^)

>>89312730
>not caring about Rotten Tomatoes
Go away, Max Landis.

>>89312759

I've noticed you're in every Logan thread these days spouting the same shit. I'm honestly wondering if you really are a Marvel intern.

>>89312758
Still lower than Captain America Civil War.

And now that Fox got rid of the director, the sequel will be terrible.

Marvel is more in competition with itself then it is with DC. DC movies being successful isn't going to have any impact on Marvel, despite what fanboys say they'll watch both companies movies. But Fox and Disney having to split up the characters is the biggest problem for them.

>>89312781
I could say the same thing about you, Fox intern

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>>89312789
Still higher than most of the garbage in the MCU. They also got the director of John Wick for the sequel. :^)

>>89312830

Everytime someone says something negative about RT you call them Max Landis. You've been doing it for days. That's dedication to the art of shilling for a company that doesn't give 2 fucks about you.

>>89312836
Not higher than guardians of the galaxy or The Wintet Soldier. ;^)

>>89312865
>That's dedication to the art of shilling for a company that doesn't give 2 fucks about you.
The same could be said about you, Foxshill. Seriously, do you honestly believe that X-Men Apocalypse, X-Men the Last Stand, Wolverine Origins, and all the Fox Fantastic Four movies are actually good? Call me when James Gunn or Joss Whedon makes an X-Men movie.

>>89312873
Still higher than TIH, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, Thor, Thor 2, FA, AoU and Ant-Man.

:::::^^^^^)))))

>>89312921

I haven't defended anything though. I'm just calling you out on your shilling that you've been doing for days now.

>Call me when James Gunn or Joss Whedon makes an X-Men movie.
Yikes.

>>89312921
joss did re-writes on the first movie. he also wrote the "toad struck by lightening" line. no good comic run could fix that.

>>89313035
The problem was that they cut the conext out of the joke. Would have worked better with it.
>>89312975
>hating based Gunn and Based Whedon
It's always so hilarious when /co/ turns so contrarian.

>>89312017
Snyderfags are patethic. Just stop crying on X-men threads.

>>89311984
I love the fact this post doesn't even acknowledge DC and Warner as competition, and assumes the only way to fight back the MCU is by using Marvel characters and keeping them from joining the MCU.

>>89313278
>praising the MCU's superior movies and wanting the X-Men BACK HOME TO THEIR CREATORS makes you a Snyderfag
*taps your head*
Not a strong think, are you?

>>89312781
Are you retarded? Its a snyderfag falseflaging.

>>89313305
Seriously, the X-Men and FF belong in the MCU anyway. Don't know why everyone is so against the natural order.

Hell, we would finally have a complete universe.

>>89313377
>hating FoX-Men and wanting them to be saved by the MCU makes you a Snyderfag
Because X-Men Apocalpse and X3 were suuuuuuuuch great films.
*slaps face*
Dumdum

>>89312797
>But Fox and Disney having to split up the characters is the biggest problem for them.
I believe the problem is with Disney and the MCU is that every movie that introduces a new character is a "risky bet" that survives thanks the MS and MCU brand alone. Guardians got over as fuck, but Strange and Ant-Man were just a monthly fad.

Now, if they had actual known heroes like the X-Men, Galactus and FF they could shit even more money without having to rely on the MCU brand alone. It's a safer bet.

If Fox had the rest of the Marvel characters they would drive the entire franchise to the ground and the super hero bubble would burst for good.

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>>89313231
>Based Whedon

>>89313465
>but Strange and Ant-Man were just a monthly fad
>implying

>>89313453
No worse than the Thor movies or Iron Man 2 and 3.

>saved by the MCU
This is how I know you're just baiting.

>>89313551
You're right, they were more like weekly fads. I've never seen a movie come and go as quickly as Doctor Strange.

>>89313551
Let's be honest here for a moment, anon. I absolutely loved both movies, in fact they are in my top 5 MCU, but the characters didn't get mainstream like Guardians did (Ant-Man in particular). Strange still has an opportunity seeing how he'll be heavily featured in Infinity War and Thor 3.

>>89313532
>I hate good directors because they are popular
Don't worry, kid. One day your balls will drop.

>>89313612
>Whedon
>good director

>>89313556
According to rotten tomatoes they were.

>>89313642
Do you have an independent thought of your own?

>>89313612
But Whedon is outright terrible.

Avengers 1 was boring and AoU was fucking terrible. Buffy was his "magnum opus" before Avengers happened, fucking Buffy!

>people falling for snyderfag false flaging.

You guys deserve to be baited.

>>89313576
>>89313592
Yes, the movies that made millions of dollars, is loved by both critics and audiences, and has hundreds of kids dressing up as for Halloween and buying their toys and shows are SO UNPOPULAR. Unlike Cyclops and Noghtcrawler of course.
(This is sarcasm by the way).

>>89313633
>>89313682
>Whedon is bad meme
I miss old /co/

>>89313675
Do you? Becaus wit seems like you can only like shitty movies made by Fox because of your envy and fear of the extremely popular and successful MCU. Perhaps your mother did not love you enough and this is how you turned out.

>>89313696
>>89313771
I don't think I've ever seen someone shill this hard before.

>>89313689
But I hate Snyder (both Scott and Zack). Hell, if WB gave the DCEU to Marvel Studios, Superman wouldn't snap the necks of people.

Hey, it's not my fault that Marvel Studios are the ones making the best cape films of the decade. Maybe if Fix, WB, and Sony up'd their game, things would be different. Even paramount is literally raping the power rangers and losing money (right after raping TMNT).

>>89313807
Its bait.

>>89313696
I said characters, not movies. After Guardians all Marvel movies are carried by the MCU brand money-wise.

No kid dresses like Dr. Strange or Ant-Man for Halloween.

>>89313841
I know that Its bait, but this one is truth.

>>89313724
Whedon's X-Men run is decent, but his TV and movie works have always been looked down upon, newshit.

I guess we won't be seeing an older Kitty Pryde as the leader of the mutant safe haven, then.

NEEDLESSLY CONVOLUTED

>>89309946
I guess it makes sense since Mutants are practically extinct in the movie. It would be weird for Fox to permantly kill all the X-Men. Maybe we'll get a sequel with Gambit.

>>89313724
not either of the quotes, but i dont think he's a bad writer, aside from every character being an extention of how he sees himself, but he isnt that impressive of a director. his style is flat, the acting from new characters comes off bland because they haven't had better tips from better directors, and he also seems like he doesn't want to do it on such a big scale. i wish he was just an idea man in the company, doing occasional punch up work on scripts.

>>89309946
Oh look an excuse to shoehorn the new Wolverine into films.
>So... like any other X-Men movie?
Also this.

>>89311793
>>89311984
You faggots are why Marvel V Capcom 4 has Zero X-Men in the starting roster

>>89309946
They should just reboot the franchise at this point.

>>89311497
I like to think there's two timelines:
Origins Wolverine-X Men-X2: X Men United-X Men The Last Stand-The Wolverine-Logan
And then there's an alternate timeline that's
First Class-Days of Future Past-Apocalypse

>>89317007
in fox's mind, first class is a part of both timelines, and in singer's mind, both his old movies happen sometime after apocalypse as well because hes a doofus

>>89315575
>Wolverine is main focus for most X movies
>Wolverine retires
>replace him with female Wolverine
>New Wolverine to hog to center of attention of new X films

>>89321161

Good.

>>89315649
>You faggots are why Marvel V Capcom 4 has Zero X-Men in the starting roster
>no Wolverine, Magneto, or Phoenix in MVC4
And don't you forget it

>>89311761
At this point I think this is just falseflags.
I like the MCU, but the X-Men would just make it overcrowded.
Maybe the Fantastic 4 since they clearly have no idea what to do.

>>89312836
>:^)
Is there something that screams more ''I'M A REDDITOR'' than this?

>>89312017
If that dude you're responding to is a foxshill then you are clearly a marvelshill

>>89309946
is the Gambit movie still happening or what?

>>89325557
Obligatory "You would know ;^)"

>>89325557
I blame /co/mblr

>>89312061
>MCU had no competition
>2008 we saw IM, TIH, Hellboy2 and TDK
>2011 had Cap, Thor, GL and XM:FC
>2012 had Avengers, TASM and TDKR
>2013 had MoS and IM3

I mean I could go on and on. There were multiple studios making comic book movies. One down now, sony is under disney. These films do compete. November has Thor 3 right near JL. Other movies ARE competition for them. Which one people spend money on. 2014 was one of the least competitive years because it was all so spaced out. It probably helped cap 2, DOFP TASM2 and GotG all do as well as they did. Sometimes its not though. When it comes to family budgets to see movies, they don't go see them all.

so they're not even hiding that she's x-23 anymore?

>>89329550
No

>>89309946
Wait do people actually think the film is in a separate universe to the other films?

Surely that statement is just PR babble that doesn't mean it's actually in a separate universe, and it's more commenting on how the X-Men universe is being portrayed vastly differently to how it's been done before, with the Mutants just dying out and what not?

>The previous clones X-1 to X-14 were revealed to be imperfect and was used to deploy on clandestine operations all around the globe
>The blame piled up and is put on Logan, the original Wolverine
>The previous clones disintegrates after a few days
>Laura has been tortured and caged for atleast 30 years, and had a human mother to incubate her at birth
>this lead her to age virtually slower than normal instead of faster like the other clones
>X-23 is freed when the facility who housed the cloning chamber was attacked by another mutant with similar abilities who viewed the clones as 'an abomination'
>the mutant proceeded to kill X-15 to X-22
>he then finds X-23's cell where she is treated harsher compared to the dormant clones
>the mutant frees X-23, claiming that 'you smell just like him' and instructs her where to find Logan
>Reavers arrive just as the mutant is about to kill the final clone labeled as X-24
>Pierce laughs at the mutant saying 'You wouldnt have won, either way', implying that the final clone was close to perfect, even more stronger than Him'
>the mutant runs away and is never seen again
>we later see X-24 as the climax villain
>He is a younger clone of Wolverine whose claws resembled Daken's
>He is also played by a de-aged Hugh Jackman
>Logan dies similar to how he died in the comics

>>89312057
Really? RT is your standard? Pathetic.

>>89331956
Sounds pretty fake, senpai.