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I just came back from watching this. What are /co/'s thoughts

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I just came back from watching this. What are /co/'s thoughts on this?
I hold this movie on praise for its soundtrack. Seriously, all the songs here were fucking amazing. I still have trouble deciding which one I liked best, but "You're Welcome" might be it.
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>>89138431
>no furry
>no lesbian incest shipping
Forgettable, would not make a general for.
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>>89138431
>What are /co/'s thoughts on this?
frm what i've seen so far, this guy is considered by /co/ to be the most attractive character in the entire movie
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>>89138494
Jesus, don't be so paranoid. If every movie was about the same culture it'd be pretty boring; I like exploring different environments and myths.
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>>89138681
That is something we all can agree on.

>You´ll never be shiny enough for him
>Why live?
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maui has no nipples
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>>89138743
He's a semigod; his genetics don't follow the human faulty design that makes men have 'em.
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>>89138431

I enjoyed it. In fact, I think it was better than Frozen in alot of ways. I'd put in with Meet the Robinsons and other Disney Animation films which are good, but will and have gone unremembered.
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>>89138718 yess!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=93lrosBEW-Q

>(Post more links guise!)
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>>89138942
My brother and I thought it was better than Frozen too. I´m not sure about it being forgotten; the songs on Youtube have several million views.
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>>89139017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DijItQXMM

This one got me dancing in my seat. My brother was surprised by how much he enjoyed this song.
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>>89139017
https://youtu.be/_thMtWX_Vns

french version is my favorite, to be honest
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>>89138681
>implying he isn't the shiniest character in the entire Disney universe
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>>89139193
This anon isn't shiny enough
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>>89139073
Yeah!!

And you're welcome too!
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>>89139143
You are reminding me why I got the french dlc for skyrim.

Great language, and thanks!
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>>89139143
That was pretty good
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>>89139017
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbCujYfIW34
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>>89139073
My nigger.
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>>89139073
Are Polynesian deities OP? I mean, all the shit Mauie pulls off was the work of several gods and demigods in Greek Mythology for instance.
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>>89138431
>>89139073
I have a huge weakness for songs that suddenly turn dark just as they reach maximum bombastic and flash, so You're Welcome definitely hit a soft spot for me.

>>89138743
He has nipples, but they're nearly skin tone and on top of that they're tattooed like the rest of him, so they're barely noticeable.
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>>89138431
I loved this movie!
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>>89141120
I don't know, Shiny did know how to balance the creepiness of a villain song with full blown out flamboyance.
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>>89139505
> those lewds animator anon drew of him
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>>89138681
>, this guy is considered by /co/ to be the most attractive character in the entire movie

/co/ likes Jemaine so much they'd fuck a gas cloud voiced by him, so yes.
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>>89141509
A gas cloud named fart.
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>>89141557

I'd say the name it's the last of the cloud's problems.
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>>89138431
Didn't think it was good but didn't think it was bad either. Too much singing for my liking. Songs were culturally indistinct as I was expecting some feel of Polynesia, there was none. Story was mildly entertaining but underwhelming, felt that Brave had a stronger story.

The manager at the theatre showing Moana in my town says the movie is very lightly patronized by it's 3rd weekend. Sales have fallen off to the extent that the theatre is essentially empty and the night screenings they usually shut down the projectors when no one shows up. They would replace it if they are allowed to but home office seems intent in keeping it on for now. And he says no one wants the movie posters, normally they take a lot of requests but not this time.

YMMV
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>>89140699
Not really, Maui needed a magic hook to pull up islands, Hercules pushed Europe and Africa apart with his bare hands.
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>>89142407
>feel of Polynesia, there was none
Negro what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubZrAmRxy_M
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>>89142450
>Hercules pushed Europe and Africa apart with his bare hands

Was that one of his twelve task or did he just do that because someone pissed him off?
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>>89142517
Not sure, but he created the Mediterranean Sea. The mountains on either side of the Strait of Gibraltar are called the Pillars of Hercules for a reason.
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>>89142609
Compared to his mythological counterpart, is Marvel's Hercules stronger or weaker?
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>>89138431
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>>89139073
The Rock can sing man, who saw that coming?
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>>89139505
I'm glad he was an actual crab.
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>>89142756

Everyone saw it coming, we already knew he could sing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwReSCGL3ss
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>>89139505
>all these human versions of Tamatoa never look like Jermaine doing a David Bowie impression

beginners
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>>89138681
This guy should've been the villain... better yet, A villain.

Why does modern Disney go out of their way to avoid having villains in their movies anymore? Is this really the same company that gave us Scar, Maleficient, Ratigan, etc.?
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>>89143536
>beginners
Absolutely
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>>89143536
> wanting people to do what flight of the concords already did
> with all the most iconic bowie personas, even.
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>>89144358
Except people have already done the "Tamatoa is a chubby generic Polynesian guy with jewelry on," so why not take inspiration from Tamatoa's inspiration, glam rock David Bowie?

also

>thinking I don't know about one of the most iconic and delightful flight of the conchords scenes ever

beginners
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I agree that You're Welcome is the best song, and probably the most enjoyable Disney song of this current renaissance.

The movie was lame, though. Tired Disney formula. The only way they stirred this time was by not presenting a good guy early on and making him bad at the end.

[sub]They made the villain good![/sub]
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>>89146584
(I hope /co/ will forgive my tag confusion)
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>>89138431
The giant magic fish hook look like a manga or comics weapon.
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>>89138431
Shiny is terrible and horrifying.... but I saw the movie opening week and I'm STILL singing it
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>>89138431
Toddler Moana is really cute. Would molest.
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>>89138681
I really don't get the appeal. The song wasn't that good, either.
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Great movie but can't hit beloved worldwide appeal status like Frozen and Zootopia because it stars a brownie.
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>>89143720
The villain was Maui because he was the asshole that caused the Polynesian apocalypse to happen.
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>>89143720

>Why does modern Disney go out of their way to avoid having villains
>Gothel

>Why does modern Disney go out of their way to avoid having villains
>Hans

>Why does modern Disney go out of their way to avoid having villains
>Dr. Facilier

>Why does modern Disney go out of their way to avoid having villains
>Bellwether
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>>89147357
2 of those sucked, and only had about 5 minutes to actually be villainous.
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>>89147357
>>89143720

in modern pixar/disney movies it's not the villain that's important but character's insecurities they need to overcome.
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>>89146584
>not presenting a good guy early on and making him bad at the end

they reversed it. duh
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Boring story, Maui felt underdeveloped compared to Moanna, not enough characters, Maui's tattoo was the most annoying "pet" character in any Disney movie to date.
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>>89138431
How Moana is doing in Japan. I think they like Polynesian island culture or at least Hawaii.
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>>89142670
Kind of depends how you interpret some of Greek Mythology.

Marvel Herc is probably stronger, though as per usual with superhero's he very rarely actually does anything with his full strength
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>>89147357
>Gothel
shit as a villain and unbelievable for not having genuine feelings for the protagonist despite raising her
>Hans
shit shoehorned villain just for the sake of being there, would be better off without nonsensical turn into villain
>Dr Facillier
cool classic 100% villain
>Bellwether
5 minutes "I'm actually bad!" twist villain
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>>89147690
>>89147690
Villains arent inherently important to narrative. Conflict is. Villains are just one of many ways to bring conflict into the story.
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>>89147985
Hasn't come out yet. Comes out in March.
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I'm starting to believe people who cry "shill"
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>>89150713
Everything said in the thread is pretty average and middling.

What are you even talking about.
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>>89150698
Wow! I Hollywood movies take so long to be released in Japan?
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>>89150874

golden week all over again.
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>>89150874
Who knows. Rogue One came out about a week after it's release in the USA. The school year ends in late March, so maybe it was to coincide with that? Dunno.
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when they started singing in Polynesian at the beginning of "we know the way" I legit thought I was having a stroke
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>>89139505
Jesus it just keeps getting better
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>>89138431
Is that an abo?
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>>89139143
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-KUaaBlo1Wc
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>>89138431
The music was shit man... Would you like me to play the Frozen OST for you as well when you take your 3'0 clock nappy?
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>>89151159
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ubZrAmRxy_M
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>>89151623
The music is great, Fuck you Anon

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cPAbx5kgCJo
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>>89151734
>posting the worst song in the movie
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Best song coming trough
https://youtu.be/ubZrAmRxy_M
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>>89151792
I also liked the music in the beginning when Moana is a baby.
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Honestly You're Welcome is the only song I remember....like at all, that song is in my head on a daily basis since I saw it a few weeks ago but I don't remember any of the others off the top of my head, not even the Shiny song people seem to love so much, it did nothing for me and wasn't catchy to me

As for the movie itself I hate to admit that I found it kind of underwhelming, the humor was ok, I liked most of the characters, the visuals looked good, but it felt like something was kinda missing, it didn't feel as "epic" as it should have, like almost rather than a movie I watched a fairly long premiere episode of a tv show, it just didn't feel big enough of an adventure
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Really enjoyed it, though it wasn't exactly groundbreaking, outside of reversing the modern Disney twist and making the obvious villain the good guy all along. Hell, the beginning is basically The Little Mermaid, except with slightly more complex characterization (Ariel didn't give a shit about undah the sea, while Moana at least was aware that she had responsabilities on the island) and the old lady enabler not being an evil witch.
Would have enjoyed more islander-sounding songs than just We Know The Way, too.

Visually though, god DAMN. Remember how liquids and flowing hair are supposed the most annoying things to CG well?
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>>89151912
I loved Moana but I also wasn't expecting too much of Musker & Clemens who made some of worst Disney movies.
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CONSIDER THE COCONUT

There was not one song I didn't like.
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>>89152386
Consider the Coconut will be a meme for the ages.
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>>89152386
>Beginning of movie is nothing but the islanders being super happy about all the stuff Maui got for them
>They won't stop singing about coconuts and shit
>Moiana treats Maui like garbage when she meets him
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>>89138431
I loved it.
"You're welcome" is my favorite song of the movie.
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>>89139143
>bling bling
loved it!
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>>89152600
Maybe it's because she learned that the reason their island was dying was because of a big mistake he made? Maybe watch the fucking movie next time?
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>I know, everybody on this ISLAND seems so happy on this ISLAND.
I know, everybody on this ISLAND has a role on this ISLAND.

Terrible.
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>>89152894
yeah, that was lame and cringy
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>>89141130
Maui and Moana roleswap?
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>>89152600

but of course, and she gets away with it, everytime it's the guy who needs to help the girl and reveal his insecurities.
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>>89152600
>>Moiana treats Maui like garbage when she meets him

> grandma tells her she needs to be forceful because Maui is a trickster god
> first thing Maui does is leave her to die in a cave
> refuses to help even when told that everything is his fault
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>>89143720

Maybe because people want actual characters instead of petty caricatures.

Just a thought
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>>89142517
Neither, Hercules was travelling, needed to get past a mountain, didn't want to climb it, so he just smashed it, creating the strait of Gibraltar and separating Spain from Morocco.
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>>89151854

That would be "Innocent Warrior"
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>>89150576

>shit as a villain and unbelievable for not having genuine feelings for the protagonist despite raising her
So... You hate the classic villain Frollo too?

>5 minutes "I'm actually bad!" twist villain
Eh, I thought her disposition was better suitable for a twist-villain than what they did with Hans
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Really liked Maui, Moana is meh, and the villains are extremely bland.

I dare say the sequel will be better than the original.
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>>89143720
well given the campbellian structure to this particular movie of course there was no villain. Tomatoa being anything other than an environmental hazard would've been pointless and absolutely retarded.
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>>89147985
they don't care much for the culture other than the oddly timed thing with pokemon, it's just a popular vacation spot. But they've got such a firmly established tourist trap trade in hawaii that there's basically no hawaiian culture in it for them when they visit. Japanese tourists go to hawaii to stay in Japanese run hotels, in Japanese tourist towns, to eat at Japanese run restaurants, etc... There's actually a pretty involved history of Japanese tourist racketeering and yakuza presence in hawaii that's given the cops there a hard time.
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>>89138431
>I just came back from watching this. What are /co/'s thoughts on this?

It felt too old fashioned for me. Moana wanting to go out and explore the world, in song, against the wishes of her stern father; they were totally Ariel/Triton here.

The film was also so episodic: the Kakamora appear, then are going in a few minutes. Pretty much the same for the Crab, even with his stinger scene.
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Te Fiti was sexier than Moana.
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>>89139505

If the Kamakora have ships like these, why haven't they conquered the whole Pacific yet?
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>>89156364
>sequel

Never ever.

Only Frozen has the popularity for a 2.
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>>89153706
I wonder if any of the gods ever got pissed when their kids did that kind of crap on the Earth.
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>>89138681
His song didn't even explain how he became great, which was her question in the first place!
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>>89156871
TV series?
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>>89156963
But he did anon.

He got shiny. That is why he thinks he is great.
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>>89156963
Sure it did. He wasn't shiny and then he became shiny. Also free food.
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>>89156995
Now, that I'd watch. Maui fighting all sorts of mythical creatures and monsters, saving humans in need... That'd be a great action/adventure cartoon. If BH6 got it Moana should too.
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>>89156764

meh, another disney sameface.
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>>89157492
All humans look alike.
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>>89157514
those are hardly human proportions.
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Anyone else hear some musical motifs from Hamilton in the music?
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>>89147690
I think there's a potential anti-millennial joke here somewhere.
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>>89142697
Never fails to make me laugh.
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>>89156764
I'd like to put my green beans in her can

If you feel me.
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>>89151792
Recognizing LMM's voice was a pleasant surprise in the theater. Good to see him getting work now that he longer sings in Hamilton. Major role in a Disney movie when?
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>>89159082

Isn't he writing for The Little Mermaid, too?
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>>89156871
See you in three years desu.
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>>89138431
It's the most consistently fun Disney movie in a while IMO. It doesn't hit the same emotional highs as Zootopia but it's the best kind of escapism and the soundtrack is A+.

I'm genuinely torn between them as to which is 2016's best Disney flick. One of them's gotta be snubbed at the awards and I feel like it'll be this one, which is kind of a shame.

And yes, You're Welcome is uber catchy.
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>>89156834
Kakamora master race.
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>>89147690
>>Pixar learned from Miyazaki that villains aren't necessary.
>>Pixar makes pretty great movies without explicit villians
>>Pixar staff get rolled into Disney and continue making films without major villains

QED this is all Miyazaki's fault
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>>89156834
Maybe they have and Moana and Maui just got lucky?
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>>89159202

I don't know why you think an underperforming film with underperforming merch sales is guaranteed a sequel.
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>>89139505
I love this so much
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>>89160902
god bless anon and their willingness to indulge or perverted hearts.
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>>89159082
>Good to see him getting work now that he longer sings in Hamilton.

You do realize he co-wrote the music right? And that he was working on Moana even while in Hamilton?
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>>89156438
>There's actually a pretty involved history of Japanese tourist racketeering and yakuza presence in hawaii that's given the cops there a hard time.

I heard that Honolulu Police Department is pretty much useless.
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>>89142670
If Marvel stayed consistent with "class 100" characters being as strong as a non-enraged Hulk, then yes, he'd be stronger.
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>>89156764
is that an edit of Mona?
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>>89138431
Me and my little cousin went to see it. It was her favourite Disney movie next to Beauty and the Beast.

Yes I did love it, and holy fucking shit I never heard music numbers that good since Aladdin or Hunchback. All the songs were great, unlike Frozen which had Let It Go (and maybe Love is a Open Door) and nothing really else (pun kind of intended).
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>>89159134
Chloë Grace Moretz did dropped out the movie, which is bad news on Disney's part.
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>>89151734
>>89151749
It honestly might be. It's an entirely by the numbers "disney princess wants more out of life" song

The rest have much more interesting lyrics or more accurately more interesting personalities
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>>89156438
There's also a shit ton of Jap kids attending the colleges here. They speak the language well enough to live here but not nearly well enough to cut it at college-level work, so all the teachers just wave them through.
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>>89151792
Song was good but way too short. Could've had another minute.
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look at the concept art for moana, they should have either made this a 2d hand drawn film or made her look more attractive
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