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Has /co/ discussed this page yet?
Watch as Riri and Tony discuss what her superhero name should be and discuss gender identifiers.
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>lemme explain the word play from that cover a year ago because not everyone got it
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>>89130484
What I don't get is why are they talking about Iron when the suits are made of anything but
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>>89130484
Bendis can't stop bashing She-Hulk even when she's not around.
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Oh my god marvel
Who
CARES

Good Christ why would even tumblr want to read that shit? Just get to the fucking POINT

lord I hate Bendis and I hate Marvel more and more every fucking day
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>>89130529
Because his name is Iron Man.
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>>89130484
>giving Bendis free publicity
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>>89130484
Whoa whoa, how dare you talk about Bendis like he doesn't the know anything about social issues. He is a Jew with 2 adopted black Jews for godsake.
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>>89130484
She-Hulk means a female Hulk. like She-Wolf. whats confusing, Riri? You'd think someone so smart would be able to figure it out...
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>>89130529
It's figurative

Metal Man or Armor Man don't sound as good and DC owns Metal Men
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>>89130484
Might as well post the rest.
Tony Stark is an asshole with no respect for privacy.
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>>89130631
End of preview.
What's The Rhino doing in Chicago? Isn't he currently working for The Jackal over in New York?
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>>89130484
>reading a comic written by Bendis
Nope, I learned my lesson with Guardians of the Galaxy and X-Men, Bendis should be ignored and considered non-canon.
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>>89130484

You know what would happen if, say, the Oscars got rid of separate best actor and best actress awards?

the first time half (at least) of the nominees weren't women, they would demand a quota system.

IE - right back to where you were.

we've seen exactly this behavior with black nominees. blacks make up 13% of the population, whites 62% (or 77%, when counting white latinos), but they're not happy unless half the nominees are black. the obvious answer, "Best African-American Actor" award.

Segregation is bad. Integration is bad. There is no winning with professional whiners.
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>>89130652
Bendis already doesn't give a shit about other books, why would you expect him to care about a slott book of all things? Dude probably put rhino there on purpose.
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>>89130652
Bendis doesn't know any of Ironman's villains so he has to barrow from Spider-Man. He's probably still mad that Slot wouldn't let him kill off Peter in CW2.

It bumbs me out because Ironman does have some pretty cool villains, it's just no one has written them in ages.
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>>89130631
>>89130652
That's a sexy suit of armor.
>CLANG
Got that right.
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>>89130668
Don't let Will Smith's hear you say this.
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>>89130682
Someone ask Slott why the Rhino is there, I want to see his answer
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>>89130731
Well it cant be NY, Bendis have to be original here.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQy9GCHM2_E

HEY LOOK

ACTUAL SUPERHEROES


LET THEM DISTRACT YOU FROM THESE NON HEROES
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>>89130730
Clearly it's a clone.
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>>89130718
well when a real writer comes back and Stark shakes his coma, I'm sure the Mandarin will fridge Riri once Marvel discovers no one gives a shit about their diversity snowflake brigade
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>>89130484
>FE-male

Fuck you guys I laughed
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>>89130926
>fridge
That would imply any character actually gives a shit about her and would be affected by her death.
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>>89130860
Who's the cutie in your pic?
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>>89130926
Naw, Mandarin is too good for her, she should get iced by Blizzard, so taken out by the U-foes.
>>89130957
Yeah, that was a great cover during Superior Ironman, too bad Bendis would never be able to come up with anything like that on his own.
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>>89130631
>>89130652
Her new armor is so shitty and lame. Its too much like a generic Iron Man suit (but with a more feminine ass). Even the Rescue Armor Pepper got was a more orgiginal female Iron Man.

Why couldn't she have just built a more advanced version of her big Gundam armor, or at least give the new suit a colour scheme based on it, like Blue and Chrome.
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>>89131010
Enjoy your ban :)
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>>89130728

Will Smith, and his wife, were just butthurt that *he* didn't win. They didn't give a shit about a larger African-American cause, she opened her mouth because his not get nominated was going to have a direct impact on their bottom line (nominations and wins = bigger salaries).

Oh, and add this one for the fun - Don Cheadle (War Machine), who was in the 7th and 12th highest-grossing movies of all time (Avengers AoU, Civil War), with an estimated net work of 20 million dollars, tweeted that he would be “parking cars on G level” during the oscars.

The sheer amount of disconnect that these multi-millionaires have from reality is staggering.
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>>89130728
Fuck Will Smith, dude's a shill for Scientology.
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>>89131010
>I fucking hate niggers
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>>89131027
for fucking what? racism has been a part of 4chan for way longer than you've been here
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>>89131022
How many Iron-Man types are there?
Iron Man, War Machine(ded), Rescue, Iron Patriot, Ironheart, DOOM?
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>>89130484

didn't her first issue sell like shit
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>>89130631
There is something kinda sweet about Tony worrying about Riri being a shut in.

Especially when you remember what a shut in he was at the start of his career as a Superhero.
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>>89131031
>“parking cars on G level” during the oscars.
Is this a bad or good thing?
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The gender talk is kinda silly, but I did like Tony pointing out that she's fucked in the head from no social interaction. If making her a healthy individual is going to be a major theme in the books, that probably won't be too bad.

On the other hand, isn't that basically Moon Girl's character arc already? Is Bendis ripping Lunella off?
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>>89131122
>>89131166
Going by solicits, Riri is going to start making friends in the superhero community. However, she really does need some actual normal civilian friends, both for her mental well-being and for narrative reasons.
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>>89131191
Everyone she gets close to fucking dies
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>>89130484
>all new ironman who is a girl
neat
>she doesn't want to identify as genders
aaand nevermind
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>>89131221
In the armor no one knows who you are
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>>89130987
https://youtu.be/lUpWCk_O7h0?t=50
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>>89131283
But then why did they give the armor such a delicious ass?
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If you didn't know what page this was from, what would you think she was trying to convey?
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>>89131474
Maybe she's having a stroke
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>>89131474
butt stuff
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>>89130484
>an antiquated and weird line in the sand
what the fuck?
no, it's the difference between people who put kids in people and people that carry and birth kids
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>>89131474
It looks like she's taking a load up -
>>89131502
Fuck, beat me to it.
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>>89130484
First off... is that true about unborn babies and strokes?

Second, Bendis writes Tony for shit, even when he's technically in a coma.
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>>89131309

Interesting, thank you!

What happens to Manah afterward?
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>>89131636
>Second, Bendis writes for shit
*Fixed
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>>89131677
>Bendis writes for shit
HOLD THE FUCKING PRESS!
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Can we have Matt Fraction back on Iron Man? Like I want Matt Fraction to write his awesome Robert Downey Jr comic version as Riri's suit AI and constantly pestering her when she puts her suit on.
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>>89132169
Matt Fraction left Marvel on bad terms it seems, he's been doing indies ever since. I doubt he'd come back, and if he did it wouldn't be on Iron Man.
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>>89132169
Fraction and Marvel are not on speaking terms.
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>>89130631
those lips are a bit much, we get that she's black
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>>89132268
Damn!
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>>89132268
>left Marvel on bad terms it seems
Can't be too bad, I mean Axel Alonso gave him a blurb for the cover of Sex Criminals
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>>89130484
When did Marvel start pandering to the Tumblr crowd anyhow? When all the writers got a twitter account?

Also nice dick sucking lips, at least she isn't a trans-demi-queer landwhale.
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>>89130600
What about a "Hulk" implies male? But we have to say She-Hulk because, oh hey, this one is a woman and that's different.
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>>89131067
The age of 4chan is over, now tumblr reigns.
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>>89131191
Kamala can be both for her.
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>>89131474
Spitting out white cum.
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>>89132417
>>89130600
Fun fact: She-Hulk only exists because Marvel was afraid that the Hulk TV show executives would introduce a female Hulk (kind of like what happened with The Six Million Dollar Man). They wanted to be sure that they would own the rights and trademark to the concept of She-Hulk.
Spider-Woman exists for similar reasons.
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>>89130484
> why are they separate
To honor both a man and a woman?
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>>89132430
Kamala can't be everyone's friend. Even if she is running a legacy character daycare.
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>>89132522
Also because in movies the roles men and women do are different. The types of characters they play and the way they are portrayed will always be different.
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>>89131067
Don't try to oldfag, newfag. We made boards like /pol/ specifically so the rest of us wouldn't have to deal with you.
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>>89132598
>We
lol no

also pic related, we outchea
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>>89130484
And then she shared a name with a porno.
Big improvement, that.
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>>89132568
Like thsts stopping Marvel. She'll just show up for one issue to talk about her fanfictions and then bam.

Hell Riri is a shut in, ill surprised if she doesnt read fanfiction too.
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>>89132568
Pawn Riri off on Robbie instead, and have her use her mechanical skills to supe up the hellcharger.
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>>89130988
I hope she gets targeted by Iron Man's resident SJW villain, Firebrand, for collaborating with the Man.
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>>89130484
What is this shit? I don't need to read about "don't call me an object I'm strong independent womuwn" when all this needs is her saying she's going to alter the suit to make it work better.
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>>89132632
Listen, if you're a big enough of a bitch to be triggered when someone tells you not to be pointlessly racist, you're not mature enough to do it. If you were a tough guy like you want others to believe, you'd say your shit and not care if anyone gave you shit for it. Now, talk about this shit comic by this shit writer, or go somewhere else, ya puss.

>>89132695
She should just get a club of all the little black girls that want to be like Iron Man. Moon Girl still alive, or did they cancel her book yet? Oh, wait, she's 10...
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>>89132763
Shouldn't this dude be showing up in Great Lakes Avengers? They are in his home turf iirc
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>>89132791
I'm not even the guy you were talking to at first, but the only person triggered here is you and this nigger impostor will be forgotten soon
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>>89132763
Bendis has never herd of that character before, expect to see someone like She-Hulk apologize to her for running around under the code name SHE-hulk.
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>>89130484

Reposting my comment on this posted to reddit:

Bendis has a hard time not coming across as kind of an idiot on this issue.

Early in All-New X-Men, we see Mystique chatting with Lady Mastermind about her name. Now, Lady Mastermind could literally call herself whatever she wants. In-universe, the name she uses is obviously her choice which she could dispense with any time she likes. In light of that, TRY to make sense of this conversation:

Mystique: "Still Lady Mastermind?"

LM: "What's wrong with Lady Mastermind?"

Mystique: "It seems sexist. They don't call your father Dude Mastermind."

LM: "Yeah, it always kind of rubbed me the wrong way."

So... it rubs her the wrong way that she calls herself this? It's sexist that she is somehow stuck with a name she chose for herself? The next speech balloon might as well have read "What I'm saying is that I, Brian Michael Bendis, speaking through this character, disapprove of her name and therefore the character herself disapproves of it even though I can't find an artful way to express that concept which makes sense. Just bear in mind that I'm a modern and progressive writer while you read the rest of the story."
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>>89132821
Wait, nevermind, I'm retarded. He ded and another guy with the same ability already did.
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>>89131636

Fetal strokes can happen. Dunno if we know why, anymore than we're sure of why strokes happen in adults other than having identified certain risk factors. I don't think we can say with precision because its not a singular event, its like cancers, its not one disease but a host of 'em. A stroke is just saying "something went wrong between the heart's bloodflow to the brain", what that something is can be all sorts of things.

As I understand it, fetal stroke is one of if not the major cause of mental retardation.
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>>89132791
I thibk Moon Girl is apart of Wasp's little G.I.R.L. club
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>>89132763
Isn't that Firebrand dead? How many Firebrands have there been?
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>>89132836
>I'm not even the guy you were talking to at first,
Sure, sure. I believe you. But, let's say you're not him. Because that guy is a dickless fag, who only says nigger to be an edgelord. If you care about him so much, offer him a cock to suck. He'll gladly accept.

>and this nigger impostor will be forgotten soon
Well, duh. No one implied otherwise. We're just waiting to see how fast sales tank before Tony comes out of a coma and Rhodey suddenly recovers from having a bowling ball sized hole in his chest. The only good thing I can say about the pages shown in this thread is that someone actually drew the book, which is sadly a step up from some recent Iron Man issues that were just crudely posed CG models. Pic related.
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>>89131636
If you have blood or fat, you can have a stroke.
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>>89132924
That Lady Mastermind thing is especially funny to me because she was originally intended to be called Mastermind. But it turns out, there was ALREADY a daughter of Mastermind who also called herself Mastermind. As such, the writers had to switch the name to Lady Mastermind to distinguish her from her sister.
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>>89133023
Mistressmind
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>>89132358
It's one sided, and related to Inhumans. Fraction couldn't make his ideas work with the editorial direction, so they pulled him off and put it on the souleless train.

Since inhumans has been such an empty, joyless slog I can't help but wonder what Fraction would have done.
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>>89133023
I'd ask how that ugly fuck had so many kids, but then I remembered his power.
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>>89132568
Do you remember how many appearances a month Wolverine used to wrack up?
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>>89133076
Wolverine is hundreds of years old drifter. Kamala is a little girl that needs to bum rides off other heroes to leave New Jersey
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>>89133076
Marvel is well and truly fucked if they have to turn to Kamala appearances to prop up other series.
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>>89130860
>Saint Seiya sentai

I mighr watch this series.
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>>89130529
What i don't get is why they call Superman the 'Man of Steel' if he's an alien and not a robot
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>>89132632
get a load of this faggot, i bet reddit was you're first website.
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>>89133023
Wait, my mistake, I misremembered. What actually happened was that Joe Casey and Claremont wanted to use Mastermind II at the same time, so Claremont just created a new character to fill the same role.
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>>89133050
It's really because of Inhumans?
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>>89133106
Look at the way thy written every solo female book. They are all kamala lite books. Shes the true Wolverine>>89133106
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Do teenagers actually talk like this? If so then you could call Bendis a genius for portraying them so accurately.
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>>89130484

I mean, Tony's called Iron"man", which is a gender identifier so why not Iron"woman"?

>>89130559

I agree. Is this what it feels like to realize that you're slowly becoming a shitlord by virtue of not staying bleeding edge progressive?
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>>89133183
No, maybe first year college students.
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>>89133219
>I mean, Tony's called Iron"man", which is a gender identifier so why not Iron"woman"?
A.I. Tony makes that exact same point
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>>89133231
Which she is.
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>>89132983
Who's the big gal?
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So are they keeping the Ironheart name, what with people finding out about the Jav of the same name?
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>>89133266
Who? The one in the gas mask? That's Mary Jane.
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>>89133310
God, that really went nowhere didn't it? She was made Tony's assistant for no justifiable reason for several issues and did absolutely nothing of value. And now Bendis is writing about Riri and Doom, so MJ is irrelevant.
Dan Slott did more with the MJ working for Stark plot than Bendis did.
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>>89130631
Who's Natalie Washington? I don't read this, is it her girlfriend?
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>>89133431
It's her friend who got fridged so she'd have the motivation to become a superhero.
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>>89133431
No, it was her best/only friend who was killed (alongside her dad) in a drive-by shooting.
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>>89133449
>>89133455
And she hates cartoons
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>>89133387
Yeah, she was just sorta there. It's weird that Bendis kept some ex-girlfriend of Tony's for the Doom book, even though there is no real reason for Doom to care about her specifically, but MJ is just tossed aside.

>>89133431
Probably would of been, if she hadn't died. She's presented as actually the ONLY friend Riri ever had, because Riri being smart makes people... hate her? I don't know.
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>>89130484

it's wild that so far this is an ok book. Fe-Male is a great text joke that wouldn't work orally
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>>89130484
>doesn't like gendered superhero names and thinks they're antiquated
>builds an armor exactly like iron man's except it has a woman's figure

wow.

that aside i sincerely wish this whole gender bullshit ends. i know it's impossible but i hope someday all the SJWs, tumblrites and so on wake up and realise just how retarded it all is
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>>89133507

>She's presented as actually the ONLY friend Riri ever had

you mean like reed richards and ben grimm?
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what's wrong with she-hulk
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>>89133160
I mean they never come out and say that exactly because of how the industry works but yeah it's not hard to puzzle out much like you can puzzle out the bandits really hates Grant Morrison based on the fact that he's complimented almost every other human being working in the industry at some point or another on his blog and he never ever ever has anything nice to say about Morrison
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>>89133560
>doesn't like gendered superhero names and thinks they're antiquated
>while carrying the legacy of a superhero with a gendered name
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>>89133582
Tony himself points this out
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>>89133576
Bendis hates her, so the character he's writing does too.

Bad Writing 101
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When's Carol going to kill her too?
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>>89133571
I assume 616 Reed had SOME other friends at some point, but yeah, sorta. Poor Natalie didn't live long enough for Riri to turn her into bulletproof orange rock.

>>89133576
Nothing, really. Though, if they wanted to get ride of her "gendered name" (like they're doing now by ALSO calling her Hulk), they should just refer to her by her actual person name, Jennifer Walters. I mean, she's a serious lawyer with a public identity, there's little reason for her to have a hero name at all.
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>>89133580

I've heard Fraction talk about DC One Million is the platonic crossover to him

Fear Itself broke the poor guy
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>>89133654
Carol is a busy girl, she has to kill all of her best friends first. THEN she can get around to killing kids she hardly knows.
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>>89133622
Why do we know Bendis hates her?
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>>89133695
>she has to kill all of her best friends first
It's a good thing she's no longer on speaking terms with Wanda anymore then.
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>>89133560
>>89133582
>>89133597
i wonder what leads to this. i mean, if they keep doing it then they at least must believe they're getting something out of it, but does anyone actually read this, go "oh wow finally a comic that addresses this, and with a black female main hero to boot" and pick up the comic?
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>>89133654
please god make it soon.
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>Best actor and best actress. why are they seperate?

Same reason why there are college grants for people with different races, backgrounds, majors, and disabilities.It gives more people a shot at winning and at recognition.

Otherwise, people would be crying about why so few women win movie awards.
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Wasn't there a recent moon girl comic that said "There's room for two black girl geniuses in the Marvel universe" or something like that?
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>>89133141
What I don't get is why they call Batman the 'Dark Knight' when he's never received a knighthood
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>>89130559
Probably why I can't read their shit anymore these days. That and pic related.
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>>89133845
>does anyone actually read this, go "oh wow finally a comic that addresses this, and with a black female main hero to boot" and pick up the comic?

Mostly white comic critics/bloggers praise it and use it to feel good about themselves and people of color pay no mind or just roll their eyes at the idea that a bunch of middle age white dudes at a creative retreat for a corporation think they're diverse and subversive
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>>89133886
I would put money down that there is some Silver Age story where Batman is properly knighted. Possibly even by King Arthur during some time travel bullshit.
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>>89133507
>It's weird that Bendis kept some ex-girlfriend of Tony's for the Doom book, even though there is no real reason for Doom to care about her specifically,

Doom was actually in the process of stealing her away without even trying, so it's okay.

MJ hanging with Doom would have been even dumber than her hanging with Stark.
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>>89133280
hahaha it even looks like the actual comic helmet wtf
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>>89132417
>What about a "Hulk" implies male?
Him being an already established male character.
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Why do people even post things about Marvel comics anymore? Every single time I see a thread about Marvel its something terrible. Do any of you guys even like Marvel comics anymore? And I'm not talking about single panels or moments that you can post as reaction images or feels pages or oh shit that's awesome moments, I'm talking about actual stories that will be regarded as good from the past few years. Because the only thing I can genuinely remember from the past few years that this board has agreed was good was Vision. Everything else was complaining about Tumblr shit like this, complaining about shit stories or not even talking about the books because who the hell cares.

This sounds like a shitpost and bait, but I swear to God its not. I am genuinely interested in someone explaining to me why this shit could be considered good. Who the hell is a fan of this character? This story? Hell, of Tony or any Avenger since 2007-ish?
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>>89130609
Not like DC remembers the metal men are a thing. They'd probably get away with using it.
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>>89134078
Overall, no, I haven't enjoyed much from Marvel since the first Civil War (which was so trash it made me stop following the books). I admire that there are a few real creators left trying to keep the ship afloat, but overall it's been trash, characters seem hollow, and the universe doesn't feel real at all. Hell, I only go to a comic shop every few months, and last time I didn't buy a single Marvel book.

I have stopped caring as much about how progressive Marvel WANTS to be, except for the fact that it comes off so damn preachy. I know comics when I was a kid weren't THIS preachy all the time. I keep up with a few titles, like Gwenpool, just to enjoy them before Bendis realizes the character exists and ruins her (like he did with Squirrel Girl). I guess I came to this thread because I grew up on Iron Man, so seeing how shit the concept has gotten gives me a reason to be thankful for all the good stuff I read as a kid.
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>>89130484
I actually laughed when he said she should call herself Fe-male
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>>89134091
They've been featured in a couple of books recently specifically on Cyborg, so no they couldn't get away with it.
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>>89134078

Waid/Ewing Avengers have been great.
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>>89133878
that comes out next month I think
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>>89134091
>>89134265

pretty sure the trade of their story in Legends of Tomorrow also JUST came out
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>>89130559
>Who
>CARES
Millennials care. Millennials care about this drivel so much, they actually cry if anyone opposes or disregards it as the drivel it is. That's how TRIGGERED became a meme in the first place.
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>>89134091
They had a backup as recently as new 52. I was looking at the trade for it yesterday.
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>>89134332
They clearly don't care if they aren't buying the books.
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>>89134303
Don't lie to the man.
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>>89134332
Will TRIGGERED do to SJWs what fedoras did for atheists?

It'd be fucking hilarious if it did.
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>>89134454
Don't you misgender me you cis het shitlord ableist fuck. I'm so triggered right now I feel like I'm being given a hand job by the Punisher.

But in all seriousness, current Avengers is very boring looking from what I've seen. Which I guess is the best I can expect from Marvel nowadays. Passably boring. Like this. Oh, Tony Stark is in a coma and now some new person is Iron Man but then he'll come back and we'll have vanilla Iron Man and new gender fluid transracial teen science goddess Tumblrflake Iron Wymyn just like all the other Marvel characters in a completely predictable and boring story and I wish I was dead. Marvel, the house of ideas! Except all the ideas are endless garbage!
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>>89132738
Don't you fucking dare. They already killed his book by making it all about Chulk and Boobverine.
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>>89134078
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>>89131491
She's fifteen
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>>89134454

i will go to the mat for those books

Also Cap and Thor have been solid books for a good while now, Thor slightly longer.

Occupy Avengers and Hawkeye are both good

>>89134332

if people disregarded it we wouldn't constantly have thread bitching.
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>>89134693
Civil War 2 and Champions killed her for me. I weep for one of the last few characters from Marvel I enjoyed.
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>>89134676

>Legacy stories drawing on past history of the company
>I WON'T STAND FOR IT
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>>89134736
WE WAS KANG
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>>89134736
>all that
>good

Well, no accounting for taste I guess.
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>>89134778

i mean it's not Forever Evil, /co/'s best graphic novel of 2014
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>>89134736

>Also Cap and Thor have been solid books for a good while now, Thor slightly longer.
>Thor.
>Good.

So we have a main character who was booted out of his own comic because he is no longer worthy to possess his powers because of reasons we have not learned after years of comics, an event he experienced in a comic that wasn't even his, and had his powers given to a woman who we don't even know why she is now worthy to hold said powers other than "has cancer and is brave about it," which covers a large amount of other people on Earth. This new Thor, in her Thor form, also has virtually the same characterization as regular Thor, which makes the change of characters feel quite pointless other than the fact that we now get pages where she can use the power of GIRL POWER!!! to teach misogynistic villains a lesson. And speaking of new powers, this new Thor is able to make the hammer do things that it has never been able to do before because she's just soooo super special and everyone loves her and whenever she isn't around everyone asks, "Where's Poochie?!"

So what was that you said?

>Also Cap and Thor have been solid books for a good while now, Thor slightly longer.

Hmm, yeah, okay, I slightly disagree.
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>>89132316

That's Caselli's style. Everyone has big lips. Black girls get bigger lips... and tits.
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>>89134738
I can see Champions killing her for you (everyone is written like such a boring cliche in that book), but in CW2 she stood up to her retarded mentor and that takes a lot of integrity.

I don't read much of her stuff, but I think if she was just a lone book, focusing on her being a cute local hero trying her best, it would be great. The larger connections to the Marvel Universe do nothing but drag her down. She really seems like she's there just to check a lot of boxes off at times. Everytime she is lined up with a bunch of other Inhumans I think "Do you really care about this Inhuman shit, Kamala?".
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>>89130484
>sexual identity
That's not the right term to use
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>>89134765
Too bad it's still a Ghost Rider book and not a FF book anon. Ghost Rider was on just 3 pages of his own book last month. Give me fucking Robbie he's the reason I ride the book.
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>>89134850

>waaaaaa waaaaaaaaa muh male hero

who hurt you so bad you can't deal with a new lead? Thor Odinson has been in the book most of it's run and currently is starring in a mini series clearly setting him up for something new.
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>>89134877
>I can see Champions killing her for you (everyone is written like such a boring cliche in that book), but in CW2 she stood up to her retarded mentor and that takes a lot of integrity.

Only after JOINING HER BROWN SHIRT NOT-NAZIS BUT REALLY LITERALLY NAZIS.

Also, Bruno. Bruno, man. Fuck that bitch for what happened to Bruno.
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>>89131641
She's a well-intentioned, but ultimately severely misguided female lead in the sequel.
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>>89130484

Jesus just from the thumbnail I glanced over I immediately concluded it was Bendis.

>that back and forth dialogue flow
>repeated panels
>raised eyebrow look
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>>89134926
There, there. It's not like Wakanda is full of warlords salivating at the thought of raping Bruno's white boy ass. Oh, wait...

I still don't see how Carol didn't start asking questions the first time she came down and saw her people were dressed as blue nazis. I mean, did the kids pick those uniforms, or did Carol pick them out?
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>>89134909
I can deal with a new lead, so long as the writing is good and the character is well written. Thor is neither of those things. I'm sorry if the taste of Marvel's cock after all these years has sullied your taste, but I can assure you, it is not quality writing.

Also, bonus points for using the sexism argument. Totally cool to see where your arguments come from. I only used the misogyny argument because of that horribly embarrassing page from early on in the run. I would have no problem with Jane Thor if she was written well. She is not.
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>>89134990
Bad writing. Carol didn't ask anything because of bad writing.

Also, fuck that page and fuck Marvel. "If the kids are breaking the law it is up to you, a child who is in way over her head, to use your non-fully developed judgmental skills to fix the problem and, in a way, go directly against the wishes of the woman you hero worship. I've got other shit to worry about and other Hulks to manslaughter and traumatize."

Fuck. You. Carol.
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>>89134332
problem with that theory is the millennials who do care, dont actually buy comic books. not enough to warrant this

this is just Marvel trying to be "oh so hip and 'with it'" to an audience that doesnt actually want that, and therefore they push it as hard as they can because in the absence of sales, they can get a good controversy going which is free press
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>>89135060
Carol is seriously the worst mentor.

I could go on all day about how badly Carol was written during CW2. Not even just from a "I don't like her" perspective, because it's horribly inconsistent. She goes from merely being tired and at her limit in her own book (where she is actually working hard to do things by the book) to a complete cunt in the main book (where she just flies away if she's losing an argument). It's impossible to relate to a character that doesn't make any sense at all.

And just the fact that she doesn't REALLY seem to be broken up about Kamala is crazy, too. To her was Kamala just like any other underling? If Carol doesn't actually care about her (as I haven't seen a single thing about her being broken up about their parting) does that mean all the shit she says here is just a GUILT TRIP? What a manipulative cunt!
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>>89135213
Bendis gonna Bendis.
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>>89131031
Pretty sure he was joking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdId2oLBnWQ
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>>89135002

i just find it insane after people couldn't dicksuck Aaron Thor hard enough once the lead changed it became the worst thing ever published
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>>89135345
Because the lead character is hated even if the rest of the book is liked.
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>>89131309
Holy shit never seen anyone else that also played this game. Really underrated
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>>89133787
15 years of him not hiding the fact.
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>>89135677
What has he done in particular that makes you think he hates her?
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>>89133890
>passing on Based Ultimates because you got triggered by a page from an issue you probably didn't even actually read
I mean, you do you, man, but you're missing out.
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>>89134727

unborn babies cam have strokes
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>>89132924
That scene just reminds me of that bit in Villains for Hire, where Lady Stilt-Man started calling herself Stilt-Man.

Being Stilt-Man, it was obviously a joke, most of which being "why would anyone want to be Stilt-Man".
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>>89133890
Lemme spoil this for you, that's probably her girlfriend's ONLY appearance or reference to existing.
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>Why are they separate?
Well that gives more people more chances to win, Riri. The pools for either really aren't that large so lumping them together is unfair for both parties. Also, even if you didn't choose a name, due to the feminine appearance of your suit that YOU made the public will (or should, rather), call you Iron Girl or Iron Woman, because there's already been a established hero named Iron Man.

Also, fuck you.
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>>89130631
>>89130652
And how, exactly, is her hair not getting caught in that again? Or falling in front on her face inside the helmet?
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>>89136423
She's supposed to be super smart, and yet she doesn't understand statistics and probability?

I guess this is just what happens when you try to write for a character who has a higher IQ than yourself.
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>>89130631
>Tony Stark is an asshole with no respect for privacy.
I don't think the intent is to try to showcase the AI as an asshole
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>>89136865
It really, REALLY fucking sucks when potentially cool characters can get ruined like this, referring to this and Kamala's dumbass speech in Champions.
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