Sources say Justice League is a mess. Welp here we go again.

you expected anything else?

it's way too late to course correct when all the big names have already been established in the worst way

>>89087201
Because WB tries to make movies that will bring in the most cash, not the best narrative.

Is Zack Snyder really the only guy that is willing to direct capeshit? There are other more capable directors out there

>three of the seven missing
>room for cyborg IN THE CENTER

cyborg's totally gonna happen one day, Johns

>>89087314
I dont think Johns cares for Cyborg much either, its more like suits keep yelling at him to "MAKE THE ROBOT WORK DAMMIT"

>>89087343
>"MAKE THE (DIVERSE) ROBOT WORK DAMMIT"

Ftfy

>>89087494
weird thing is, i get they have to have the token black guy, but they could have just had MM's human form be black or used John Stewart instead of Hal Jordan, but no, they pick a black hole of charisma for their obvious tokenism

>>89087201
gotta believe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ12ghCqO3o&t=3s

>>89087291
You're right, Marvel doesn't do that in any way, shape, or form.

>>89087711
brought a tear to my eye. goodbye, hopes of ever seeing a good DC movieverse

>>89087201
What sources, op?

>>89087856
Some ex-MI6 guy apparently.

...wait, no, that's a different thing isn't it?

>>89087781
>see a DC thread
>ctrl+f "Marvel"
yep, here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOQf-VAs4g8&t=129s

I wonder how much they'll butcher the theatrical version this time. I bet the JL extended edition stupid fans pay for will be 4 hours long

>>89087918
I'm just saying that of course both Marvel and DC make movies try that bring in the most cash, like no shit, they're superhero movies. To blame DC for doing something that almost every major movie studio does, is stupid

>>89088137
other studios don't intentionally fuck with the movie by shooting movies that are an hour longer than needed so they can chop them up in editing and receive double the bucks when they release an "extended" edition though

>>89087201
>Why is DC so good at being consistently bad with movies?

because DC has little to no hand in their previous movies.
it was a WB movie by committee

>>89087201
what sources? what's the guarantee that they're reliable at all?

>>89088335
>90% one race is diverse
what

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>>89088342
>reliable

>>89087201
Karen Fukuhara´s career is dead.

>>89088269
it's not an anti-DC thread faggot, it's an anti-DCEU thread. anyone who claims to be a DC fan and likes these movies, i respect your opinion but you should be shot in the head, respectfully

>>89087201
>Sources say Justice League is a mess.
>Sources
>my ass

>>89088335
>hated by half the country but in the end remains on top
I'm OK with this.

>>89088385
Poor OP. Did your company war thread backfire again? Don't worry, you can try again three days later.

>>89088382
why's that?

>>89087257
>you expected anything else?
An actual source? I dunno. I guess confirmation bias and general gullibility good enough for you.

>>89087314
>TRIGGERED by the black guy

So predictable

>>89087201
>muh critic approval
keep bleating

>>89088407
damn man, you're so smart for realising a multi-billion dillar franchise like marvel with the richest company on the planet behind them needs to pay people to shit on DC movies in a thread on 4chan that contains 30 people. those 600 bucks will make all the difference!

>>89088443
>pulling a race card to defend a shit character

so predictable

>>89087201
>sources say Batman is canned
>proven bullshit within the day

>same sources say JL is a mess

I mean it still could be but the smear campaign is too real to believe anything like that

Still looking for that source, OP. And no i don't want a picture of your ass.

>>89088491
>You're pulling the race card, guy! It's not like i mentioned his race first or anything sempai!!

>>89088342
well it's been 2/2 as far as the rumors being right

or maybe it's mouseketeers shaping up the narrative this early

who the fuck knows, there's no Faraci this time

>>89088342
>>89088394
>>89088505
>>89088507
>Source: My internalized desires for DC's cinematic universe to fail or be remodeled in a creative direction that suits my own personal preferences

>>89087257
They're course-correcting like the Titanic.

Instead of hitting the iceberg head on just scrape the side of it.

>>89088243
Are you honestly telling me that every other movie studio films only the EXACT amount of footage they need, and that no one else have ever released an extended edition of a movie? I'm honestly not trying to defend DC, I'm just trying to point out that such sweeping generalizations are a bad way to argue. Also, have you seen the extended edition of LotR, there's easily over an hour of extra footage.

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>>89088545
This. Why is it that marvel friends want the DCEU to fail?


Fake news

>BREAKING NEWS: Zack Snyder have money to a homeless man, that homeless man is still homeless #fuckDC

>>89088534
how did i mention his race?>>89087314

you're completely delusional

Is it the same guy making these threads?

>>89088651

There are probably a few of them. You should see /tv/'s catalog. Half of the threads are Mouse shills shilling other Mouse shills until it reaches bump limit

>>89088701
i wonder why they even bother, the autism of dc fanboys is impenetrable

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>>89088651
>He still thinks it's one guy

>>89087201
They're setting up the Rebirth DCEU

>>89088758
well, if theres one thing DC does best it's rebooting

>WB saw Suck Punch and gave Snyder Superman
>WB saw Man of Steel and gave Snyder Batman, Wonder Woman, Luthor and Doomsday
>WB saw BvS and gave Snyder Aquaman, Flash, Cyborg and the New Gods

Just let the company burn to the fucking ground.

>>89088584
i don't have the will to go into it, watch this 6 minute video if you want, it explains it more eloquently than i can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR0iuzV0x6g&t=37s

>>89087201
> sources

Sure dude... I am really starting to believe there is a PR propaganda to undermine DC movies, from the critics that use two sets of values in DC/Marvel movies to all the constant news of "muuuh movie is in trouble".

I hope Synder at least gets to put his Cut this time around.´
BvS was so much fluid and better in the Ultimate Version, easily a 7/10 movie

>>89088758
...Five movies in? Three if you realise SS and WW can be discounted as effectively unrelated to JL and a prequel, respectively?

Well, they jumped to Dark Knight Returns and killed Superman in two, so why the fuck not. Guess the Batman movie will show us what the comics are like in 2040.

>>89088821
>I am really starting to believe there is a PR propaganda to undermine DC movies

Don't be paranoid anon, also don't read this article

http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/batman-vs-superman-twitter-spambot-smear-campaign-discovered

>>89088821

When will mods get /tv/ off of this board?

>>89088627
>zack snyder
>being good with people


He is an objectovist anon, he wouldn't do charity.

>>89088782
DC has only rebooted like twice or three times in nearly 80 years, both occations separated by a 2 years gap. Even then, all dc continuity exists as a single ever growing entity that is referenced or brought back every few years. So from a certain point of view dc has never rebooted.

>>89088890

This thread thread will obviously never rise above /tv/ shit posting but Snyder is actually pretty famous for being a nice guy. That's why his casts including folks like Amy Adams and Jeremy Irons who usually don't appear in hot garbage still defend his choices.

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>>89087201
The beauty about claiming to have """insider source""" regarding a industry that practices reshoots is that if the film turns out not to suck, they can always fall back to "That's not the version I saw/was told."

>>89088960
nothing in that picture makes any sense, first, an all balck cast isn't "diverse", it's black. second, so what? the movie will obviously be set in wakanda, was it supposed to have white people?

>>89088960
>90% black
>hella diverse

This is satire right?

>>89089187
>Movie set in an African country
>Surprised that most of the cast is black
For people who pride yourselves on being intellectuals you sure do miss a lot of obvious bullshit.

>>89089227
You know what the word Diverse means? 90% is not diverse.

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>>89087201
what a shock

>>89087314
Cyborg on the JL always seems weird to me because of Teen Titans.

>>89089292
As long as there are at least two representatives of a different ethnic or religious background in one group, it's diverse.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/diverse?s=t

>>89087201
Because WB entrusted the entirety of the DC Universe to a Die-Hard Millerfag

>>89089417

I'm pretty sure a Die-Hard Millerfag would understand that TDK depicted an 80's hell, brink of nuclear war, plummeting economy, borderline dystopia context that explained Batman's turn towards darker brutal methods and he wasn't just a brutal, mean spirited, fascist thug.

sources say OP is a fag

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>>89087201
>start off on the wrong foot and need to race to catch up
>instead of realizing sunk cost is a fallacy, double down
>doubling down didn't work and now the timetable is totally fucked
>double down again - sacrifice the time it takes to write a script, scripts don't matter right?
>shit another failure and we have 3 movies in the pipe modeled after it..what do we do?
>well if we say to cancel now we'll look bad but if we keep going and it all flops we can push the blame elsewhere
>FULL STEAM AHEAD

>>89087973
>>89087973
>>89087973
>>89087973
not the OP, but this is the "source" that was posted. decide for yourself if you believe it

people never read the thread

>>89088921
You can't seriously believe that. If they've never rebooted, I want wally's kids back. I want the complex wildstorm history back. Of course they've rebooted.

>>89088243
holy shit you stupid idiot, thats how almost ALL movies are made

>>89088818
>>89088243
>gets his opinions from youtubers

holyshit you fucking casual, I bet you barely read comics.

>sources say
jesus christ

>>89088890
he is not an objectivist in anyway

They're doing the batman plate armor thing again?

I liked the fatman grey suit

Is it just me or does flash look like a transsexual S&M thai prostitute?

Not saying that's a bad thing

>>89089767
Sure, and Will Smith's not a Scientologist, he just thinks they're really neat

>>89087201
>finally do an accurate looking batsuit in the last movie (even though it was rubber)
>go back to armor again in this one

wtf

>>89087343
>cyborg is the key to all this
>if we can get him working
>because hes a funnier character than we've ever had before

>>89087201
>Sources say Justice League is a mess

Well, that's alright. I love a good comedy film

>>89090052
why is everyone so triggered over bat armor when he's going up against literal alien gods and parademons?

>>89088758
why do people think the movie people pay attention enough to have synergy with the comics? if anything its the comics people curtailing the movies.

>>89090052
I am literally fine with the bat plate armor but what the hell does he have the shades for?

>>89089767
He does seem to touch on a lot of Objectivist themes and love himself Rand's works.

Though hilariously, many Objectivists seem to deny he's one of them.

>>89089852
Now you mention it, it's not just you... Also agreeing it's not necessarily a bad thing

>>89090090
Because when I say "rich and powerful guy with severe parental issues clad in power armour" that brings to mind...

...Well, Warmaster Horus in Warhammer 40k, I guess, but also Iron Man, which is the one most DC fans would likely be concerned about.

>>89090090
>>89090090
really, it's not realistic a human could fight alien gods WITHOUT armor

>>89089852
there's nothing DC has done that's "not a bad thing"

>>89087201

>Sources say
>no actual source

How much does Mickey Mouse pay you?

>>89090122
>"rich and powerful guy with severe parental issues clad in power armour"
It's not power armor so much as plating. The gymnastics you assholes do to draw parallels between Tony & Bruce is just insufferable as it is straw grasping.

>>89090154
>manchild raised on deesee comix thinks mickey mouse is a real person

the funniest thing is that the villain is steppenwolf, like they're actually saving Darkseid for a more epic sequel lol. this is franchise with vast longevity

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>>89087201

>>89090313
>this is franchise with vast longevity
These films have been turning profit despite critics falling to their knees begging people to not see these movies. Of course, I'm not going to deny that their release dates didn't play a role.

>>89089852
>>89090122

What ARE those wires over his armor?

>>89088385
Says the marvel shill

>>89090090
because of just that. its a movie with interdimensional aliens, you dont need fake realism with fucking armor. you can just say his suit is some magic fabric like daredevil.

>>89090140
and the justice league is inherently not realistic. theyre modern day myths, why do we keep trying to drag them down to our level?

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>>89087201
>still thinks cape flicks are about quality

>>89090502
You forget they're in the business to shill out toys. It's okay for Ironman to have a different MK for every movie but not Batman?

>>89087781
Hey I'm not implying Marvel doesn't do the same thing. The key difference is WB doesn't have a good foundation or audience investment to cut corners yet

>>89088505
Don't forget the anti-Wonder Woman """""rumors""""" that they pushed out.

Tabloids love negative stories, and Marvel fans are territorial as duck, so so they're ready to latch onto anything they can to shit on their favorite company's enemies. So is it any wonder that DC hate gets pushed out in a constant stream for these people to eat up? Plus are you really going to trust people who told you Ghostbusters 2016 was a brilliant and hilarious film and the only people who disliked it were fucking white males?

I mean we all read comics here; we know how the comic book media has been for years now. Marvel relaunches yearly and pushes out awful token minority characters and gets praised for it, while DC gets criticized at every turn for not being minority friendly enough. There was an old article from Mary Sue or something where the writer said she was prepping an article to talk about how DC You didn't have enough minority representation, only to realize that Marvel had no minority books and had cancelled all their female led books that month.

The Marvel bubble is very real; sites like that get paid for clicks, and nobody is more willing to give them those clicks than Marvel fans. There is one thing they are good at: hate.

>>89087201

Those sources came from the same guy saying that Affleck was dropping out

Which it perfectly could be a self fulfilling profecy because the guy must be sick to have his name dragged in the clickbait mud everytime the Mouse wants to reactivate the smear campaign

>>89088818
I'm not giving you ad revenue, you fucking faggot.

>>89087980
MERAAAAAA
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAAAAME???

>>89088804
>WB saw BvS and gave Snyder Aquaman, Flash, Cyborg and the New Gods

Source that Zack Snyder is directing any of that?

INSIDE SOURCES SAY THAT BEN AFFLECK IMPREGNATED GAL GADOT AND NOW IS THINKING ABOUT DROPPING OUT OF THE DCEU DUE TO THE UPCOMING SCANDAL!

>>89088243
Literally every studio does this.

>>89090647

He's not even directing JL2, that anon is full of shit just like those sources that other shill made up

>>89087201
Deadpool and the Cap movies do great, and they should have because they were great. But DC has it's head so far up Dark Knight's ass they still haven't realized their "market research" is outdated, that dark and broody superhero movies just don't work anymore.

>>89088804

Sucker Punch still had its merits. There were a lot of pretty great scenes in it. They never quite added up to a good movie but man, they were cool.

Snyder is a lot like Michael Bay, honestly. Both are incredibly talented but they have a tendency to waste that talent on the worst kind of shlock. I guess Snyder has Watchmen and Bay has Pain and Gain.

>Why is DC so good at being consistently bad with movies?
Damage control mostly.
>l-let's do a marvel esque flick!
>b-but without being marvel!!
And then they proceed to fuck shit up in the editing room.

>>89088921
This. The closest thing to a reboot they've ever done is Flashpoint, and even it wasn't all the way. And they undid it a few years later. Everything else was just continuity changes; the events from before the crisis still happened.

>>89089622
>of course they rebooted
No, they didn't. Everything from before COIE still happened in-universe- it's just that they timelines were combined. Characters still remembered the events from before. It's the same for Infinite and Flashpoint.

If DC rebooted that would mean that Marvel has rebooted, like with OMD and Secret Wars merging Ultimate shit into 616.

>>89088382
T A T O O
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>>89090612
>the Mouse
>shadowy Disney-led 'fake news' operation

are you underage?

>>89090709
he was clearly talking about JL, which is the audience's first introduction to those characters aside from the BVS cameos

>>89090709
I know. That's why I was asking for sources. They don't exist and he's just talking out his ass.

>>89087201
>Why is DC so good at being consistently bad with movies?

Because their goal is to be the opposite of Marvel in everyway

>>89090740
>Deadpool and the Cap movies do great,

Except TFA did really bad.

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If he goes crazy will you still call him superman?

Nice sources btw

>>89091018
we don't call him Superman now

>>89091042

>>89087973

>>89091066
Still not a source

>>89091083
>>89091083
what exactly are you expecting, that someone who works on a movie will state their full name and badmouth it so they can never work again?

>>89090750
>Michael Bay
>talented

>>89091042
Who cares about sources?

>>89091265
he's got space dementia

>>89091265

I stand by that. Bay has a very distinct and very appealing visual Style. He's fantastic at capturing a specific kind of sleazy excess.