>“I’m gonna direct the next Batman, we’re working on

Justice League is a mess
"DChad" didn't happen because of the DCEU
It happened because of Rebirth

>>89079164
He sounds upset people didn't like Live By Night. I hope he'll be okay.

>>89079164
>After years of career almost becoming a joke, you start to get respect as a film maker
>Your even even an Oscar
>Get cast as Batman
>Now all people care about is Batman and bring it up in all interviews all the time even when you're doing a press tour for entirely unrelated other movies

Ben Affleck gets no respect.

>>89079233
It's his own fault for falling into the trap of capeshit. His only hope of rising up from the pit is bringing capeshit up with him.

>>89079233
Being Ben Affleck is suffering.

Almost as much as being Henry Cavill is suffering

>>89079233
He wanted this.
He wanted to be Batman.
He got monkey pawed hard.

>>89079212
Has anyone here seen that movie? How is it?

>>89079295

Critics are hating it for ideological reasons.

>>89079359

So it's the Accountant all over again? I was thinking of seeing either Live by Night or La La Land this week, decisions, decisions.

>>89079371

Yup. Some even mention Accountant in their reviews.

>>89079295

Typical gangster type movie, except with extra drama. The LA mafia/cop one a few years is a bit better, but you'd be better off with some of the classic gangster movies from the late '80s, '90s.

>>89079284
>>89079255
Main problem is the rumors that this was going to take the place of the Flash or Aquaman spot, plus The Cereal King's twitter post and interview comments that they were working on a script. Johns is used to working on a script for a few months (at most), handing it off to an artist, inker, colorist, letter and within six months, you can have an entire graphic novel. Movies don't work that way and big budget movies never will.

>>89079371
>La La Land
Why? That's not even a choice.

>>89079404
>Movies don't work that way and big budget movies never will.
But wasn't Suicide Squad written in six weeks?

>>89079406

I like musicals and one centered around Emma Stone and jazz sounds compelling, and it perhaps has slightly more comfy entertainment value than a more serious bootlegger gangster story.

>>89079427

Ferris Bueller was written in a week.

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>>89079164
THE KINO RISES

If they're smart they'll just never do it but keep saying they will. Like a "You guys need to keep the DCEU alive until The Batman! So buy two tickets to Wonder Woman!"

>>89079552
If they were smart, they'd make movies people would want to see on their own.

>>89079371
what terrible choices. go see rogue one

>>89079427
I'm surprised that took more than six hours to write.

>>89079617
>what terrible choices.
>go see rogue one
Why provide another terrible choice?

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>>89079164
>Step aside, Zack Snyder, I'll show you how it's done.

>>89079770
SAVE US THE ROCK!

>>89079371
Go see La La Land, it was fantastic

>>89079212
If he nails Batman that's an easy billion.

>>89079828
"If" being the keyword.

Ben Affleck is gonna suck my dick

>>89079597
It's too late for that. This is what we've got.

>>89079871
I see little reason why he wouldn't Hope he gets the same cinematrographer he used on Live by Night

>>89079954
Because of the possibility of executive meddling.

>>89079976

Batfleck wouldn't be dumb enough to not insist creative control and final cut. He knows he's probably the most successful part of the DC movies at the moment and that's why WB is so keen on him also directing Batman, he'd definitely have the pull do negotiate a beneficial contract like that.

>>89080003
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

>>89079871
I trust Ben. It's WB we have to look out for.

>>89079770
I will never understand why they casted The Rock as the villain when he could be a hero instead of a throw away villain.

>>89080046
>Black Adam
>throwaway villain

>>89080059
not him but i'm a pleb regarding Shazam & Black Adam. I see why anon would think they would just have 1 movie with him and kill him off at the end like how Marvel does. Think DC will follow suit?

>>89080090
They didn't kill Lex at the end of BvS, and Zod kind of came back as a zombie monster.
Even Marvel hasn't killed off ALL their villains.

>>89080046
They should have made Black Adam a founding JL member. Then Billy can replace him when he betrays them later.

>>89079164
>people care about Batman
>nobody really gave a shit about Ben's Bugsy Malone remake
Eh, what did he expect exactly?
That something people have no prior knowledge about, would generate a lot of hype?

>>89079890
Go to sleep, Damon.

>>89080162
Remember Dogma, Ben? Remember Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back? Remember the good times we had?

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>>89079770
>The Rock's manager/ex-wife Garcia's new client is Henry Cavil
>she's going to merge the Superman/Shazam movie into 1 project or have Clark atleast play some supporting role.
>They're going to try to shill their film company to WB when Snyder fulfills his contract obligations.

The Rock is going to jew out Snyder out of DC!

>>89079164
DISNEY ON SUICIDE WATCH
MKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
DC HATERS ON SUICIDE WATCH

No amount of shilling will keep the truth out forever. Sorry Darkseid, a big lie won't swallow up the truth this time!

>>89079284
This was my first thought too. You wanted to be Batman so much you got swallowed up by his shadow. Sorry Affleck.

>>89080046
>>89080112
If they play their cards right, Black Adam could have been a really heroic champion and the one who was able to defeat Darkseid thousands of years ago, before he became evil. He could have worked together with Amazons, Atlanteans, Anthro, and the Ancient Blue Beetle as a team to hold off the attack.

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>>89080191

So long Snyderverse. Hello Rockverse

>>89080242
Ah yes, a superhero universe of hope, optimism & FUN. Been a long time coming.

>>89080266
Snyder's already doing that. He'll beat Marvel at their own game after already making great movies with different tones.

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Just look how bright this picture is

>>89080280
No.
>>89080281
>tfw you're Superman and still feel tiny

>>89080286
>triggered

Face it, Snyder is the best.

>>89080191
The Rock will have to make gigabucks and positive press with his Shazam movie to gain leverage to push Snyder out of a contract extension.

>>89080191
If the Shazam movie turns out to be an adaptation of First Thunder I'd be extremely happy.

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>>89079295
Right now the only people that reviewed are early and it's been going up since then. When it drops tomorrow I'm sure it will be okay. Most of the complaints are silly anyways. It's like "is a okay movie but since Ben directed it it should be an Oscar worthy one, so since it's not I'm giving it a mediocre score. " kind of bullshit.

>>89080342
I thought the bigwigs were already distancing themselves from Snyder? He's not attached to Justice League 2, right?

>>89080046

Because the Rock is a Black Adam fanboy and only wanted to play him. Hence why he's going to be a major focus in the movie and Shazam has any traction at all as a project.

>>89079295
Literally just got out of a screening, its got some editing problems/inconsistencies and it meanders a little but I really liked it.


idk what >>89079404 means though, its not a typical gangster movie really, though it utilizes typical gangster tropes to tell its story. Its kind of like the Forest Gump of gangster movies, in that its more the story of a single man's life over the long period of time as he experiences gangster movie things.

>>89080383
Snyder still has a chance to turn it around, if he performs to their expectations, but if The Rock can make a First Thunder movie that outperforms BvS and positive press to boot, we'll be seeing The Rockverse.

>>89080383
I think thats up in the air. We'll see how he performs this year.

GET HYPE IN THIS BITCH

>>89080305
>Snyder is the best
At making garbage.

>>89080286
>>89080266
you guys are so obsessed with "fun" it makes me doubt youve ever read Superman comics, and its sad that you limit the idea of enjoyment to "fun" in a very child like sense of the word. And btw Snyder's movies are all about hope and optimism.

>>89079164
>“WHERE’S THE FUCKING BATMAN?”
That shit made me laugh.

>>89080437
>Its kind of like the Forest Gump of gangster movies

Well shit, that does sound interesting.

>>89080266
damn the thought of this makes me giddy af

>>89080460
>everyone who likes different things than me has never read any comics, only I've read comics everyone else is dumb but me
Shut up kid, The Rock is talking.

>>89080464
Hah that is pretty funny. Sounds like a Joker line in a fanfic.

>>89080464
You know Kevin Smith asks him once per day.

>>89080482
I don't doubt he, he sperged about it in his podcast and you know he'll try to get a cameo in his film.

>>89080460
IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK JABRONIE

>>89079284
On the plus side, He gets to make his mark as THE On screen live action Batman for an entire generation. He could, if he plays this right, be the man remembered as THE Batman not seen since Adam West. He could ensure his performance is the definitive on screen batman and be the measuring stick by which all future Batmen will be measured by. To be the live action equivalent of Conroy. Others may come after, they may be good, even great, but a day may come where we will say "No one ever can do it better than Ben did"

And that is a damn fine legacy for a Batman fan to have.

>>89080539
Hopes and dreams.

>>89080046
He said he got to chose between Captain Marvel and Black Adam and he chose Black Adam.

>>89079406
Because Whiplash was great and La la land has really good reviews.

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>>89080242
>The Rock of Eternity

What did he mean by this?

>>89080225
Too bad that's most likely not happening in JL. I don't dare hope.

>>89080482
Kevin Smith and Affleck aren't friends and haven't spoken in years.

>>89080046
Because Cena will be Captain Marvel

>>89080539
>On the plus side, He gets to make his mark as THE On screen live action Batman for an entire generation

By this time next year Affleck will have been Batman in 4 films. He and Irons are the best part of the DCEU and they're getting dragged down by the rest. Those two getting nominated for razzies is absurd even though the rest of the film was garbage

>>89080647
TII-DI-DI-DII
TII-DI-DI-DII

>>89080649

4? BvS, SS and JL.....whats the 4th? Id barely even count SS.

>>89080685

Cameo in Wonder Woman

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>>89079164

>>89080712
>cameo in SS
>cameo in WW
>retroactively put into MoS


Is batman going to be in everything?!

>>89080756
yes

>>89080756
Batman sells.

>>89080756
The new name of the DCEU is Batman and friends.

>>89080756
Still not as bad as Tony Stark or his father being at the center/creator of literally everything in the MCU.

>>89080792
Not the PYM PARTICLES.

>>89080792

well we've had 14 MCU movies and a stark has been in 9 of them. However.... we did go two years without starks. After IM3 we didn't see a stark again till AoU. 3 movies in a row with no starks.

>>89080108
Their most succesful movie was focused on villains. So youre asking they'll go Marvel Route and kill villains. What do you think?

>>89080776
The fuck do you mean New name?

>>89081139
Well it used to just be Superman scowls at the audience for 50 minutes while everyone else talks around him.

>>89079295
Nothing happens in the middle.

>>89079183
DChad happened because of oddly written AV club review of suicide squad

Also probably the current state of Marvel helped too

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>>89079295
Why would Ben remake this flick? It's awful

>>89080046
The Rock is very likable so I'd like to see him play an edgy anti-hero/villain type

He would have been a good Shazam too

>inb4 Shazam is a white dude
I don't know if he's that iconic of a character where you can't change his race

I am still directing. The DCEU will be fine. There is no reason to panic. We are not at war with Eurasia.

>>89081832
We have always been at war with Eurasia.

>>89081832
Even Zack Snyder is a better director than fucking Boco

>>89081832
Shut up, Boco. And it's Eastasia. If you're going to drop literaey references, do them right.

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who gives a fuck about shitty DC movies?

>>89081870
We have always been allied with East-Asia. This irregularity has been noted.

>>89081724
You would just need a kid who looks like a younger Dwayne since they transform into older idealized versions of themselves.

>>89080281
That is the most disgusting hdr i have ever seen.

>>89081668
>oddly written AV club review of suicide squad

Go on.

>>89079478
i think it was written over one weekend

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>>89079164
>it took me a year-and-a-half to write it and get it ready and I worked really hard. It’s just no one gave a shit. No one was like, ‘WHERE’S ‘LIVE BY NIGHT?’ But with Batman I keep getting the, “WHERE’S THE FUCKING BATMAN?
I don't think this was supposed to be funny but it is

>>89081987
It is. Ben got a great sense of humor.

>>89081870

Sorry. I was gonna do a Star Wars joke, shoulda stuck with it.

>>89081890
They can CGI the rocks head on a little kids body

>>89081987
that reminds me, is it 'Live By Night' as in 'They Live' or 'Live By Night' as in 'Saturday Night Live'?

>>89081942

It was this bizarre thing where for weeks AV Club kept shitting on Suicide Squad for being a terrible and sexist and whatever other awful label you can think of movie (I think they might have even been the ones who called it the Donald Trump of superhero movies) and kept putting out salty as fuck articles one after another about it and calling the people who went to watch it as Chads who took selfies with a cardboard Harley stand.

I hope the movie is called "The Fucking Batman"

>>89080756

Batman was in the SS because Joker and Harley Quinn, Batman is in WW because he's her new boyfriend or something. I doubt hell show in other movies.

>>89082347
I didn't care much for the film but they were really obsessed with hating it

Reminds me of reviews of SuckerPunch (a film I didn't even like) where reviews were about how Snyder has mental problems and should be in a psychiatric hospital

Like calm the hell down. It's entertainment ...if you weren't entertained just let it go

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>>89079404
>the classic gangster movies from the late '80s, '90s.
>classic gangster movies
>'80s, '90s.

>>89082294

As in"They Live By Night." Though SNL could make a good sketch out of that, even without Batman connection.

>>89082347
>>89082375
There was a line that compared watching the movie to sacrificing at the altar of Moloch, or something like that.

It's picking low-hanging fruit then mashing the hell out of it.

>>89082377
De Palma's Untouchables

>>89081668
No, and no. It came from the fact that DC's head editors and writers are all completely jacked compared to the weak, flabby bodies of Marvel's editors and writers. Stop talking out of your ass, /tv/.

>>89082547
Fuck off I literally invented this meme and I got it from AV club calling people who went to see Suicide Squad Chads

>/co/
>in charge of memes

>>89082547

The DChad thing started because of SS reviews. /co/ just took the nickname and started running with it.

>>89082572
>I literally invented this meme

>he thinks he's some sort of meme master

>>89080539
Or he can become "the guy who played Batman and Daredevil (equally bad)"

>>89079295
It really wanks off Ben's character to the detriment of a more interesting cast. The ending is very unsatisfying. You can tell it was a novel for sure. Overall it's an average film, but one of those average films where nothing was new or interesting so you'd rather have seen a bolder worse one. I liked his autistic Leon one better, and he was better in it.

>>89079371
I liked the accountant :(

>>89079233
Maybe he'll eventually pull through like Ryan Reynolds did.

>>89079233
That would get annoying, but on the other hand wouldn't it be great if he brought us a high abs glorious batman film

>>89079164
Considering batfleck was the only good part of bamhamVSassman I'm optimistic it'll work out.

>>89079492
why go through the trouble of finally doing the grey and black costume, but its still made of rubber?

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>>89080756
>tfw you get cucked out of being the headliner of your franchise

>>89083860
It's not rubber. He wouldn't be able to lift his arm like that if it were.

>>89079259
>Being Henry Cavill is suffering
>Being handsome as fuck
>Every chick wants to bang you
>Have a 19 year old girlfriend

>>89079164
>needs prep time
Affleck really going method for this one

>>89079371
>>89083227
I don't understand all the hate The Accountant got from reviewers. To me it was easily one of the most entertaining movies of 2016.

>>89080642
Wasn't that just because Affleck's wife hated Smith?

>>89083945
>>Have a 19 year old girlfriend.
Fucking what?

>>89083945
>>89084349
They broke up a while back.

>>89084120

The Accountant was good. And I'm still going to see Live By Night, if only for the style and costumes.

Sometimes I think reviewers are just hating because Affleck.

>>89082377
Oh so that's why he got the Botox which kinda fucked up his face.

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>>89079295
Double Toasted said that the problem with the movie is that it has a dull main character that plays on the cliche of the "gangster with a heart of gold".
Everyone else is acting like they're in a Scorsese movie, but Ben is trying to be Dick Tracy.

Seems like it didn't mesh well.

>>89079770
WB is so desperate they can only hire meme actors to fool people

Afflek
Momoa
Will Smith
The Rock

Never seen a more creatively and artistically bankrupt company

The accountant was Batman with autism.

>>89084411

Reviewers nowardays are very SJW.

Accountant was pretty much criticed for the whole autism = perfect killer machine thing.

>>89082947
>I liked his autistic Leon one better, and he was better in it.
The Accountant? I've been meaning to watch that

>>89085513
I recommend going in with as little info as possible. Odds are you'll still see every plot twist coming a mile away, but they're all exactly the plot twists you'll want for the movie.

>>89083945
:^)

>>89079976
also all those shitty movies he made

>>89079233
he's shared two oscars - one for screenwriting (with Matt Damon, in the 90s) and one for producing (which is actually an award for the production as a whole, ie everybody who worked on it, but is awarded to the producers, usually three of them as in this case)

the shitty movies happened in between those two points in time

>>89079295
it's coming out in January for good reason

actually let's just break that down: bad movies come out in months/weeks when people aren't expected to go to the movies a lot, which seems counter-intuitive, right?

like if it came out in a better week, you might sell more tickets just because there are more people around?

true

but

in a bad week you also have lower distribution costs to offset the lower ticket sales, you meet your contractual obligations to release the thing (assuming you have those beyond a certain point in production), the theaters get something to show that's probably going to make more than an older movie (which is important to you because you need them to stay in business), and your star/director doesn't get too badly shit on because most people don't see it

the realities are slightly more complex than that, but it's basically why shitty movies come out at certain times of year, this being one of them

doesn't mean they're all shitty, but it does mean you can more or less trust a review that says a January movie is bad

>>89079478
>>89081953
it had a normal pre-production and production period in which the script was rewritten and perfected probably dozens of times to bring it in line with, variously, desired rating, star/director expectations, product placements, etc etc

it was not magically created in perfect and final form

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>>89079371
>I was thinking of seeing La La Land

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>>89079164
>this time next year the DCEU will be 0 for 5
honestly who gives a shit

Affleck is the sole redeeming thing about this universe, but not to the point that they shouldn't just pull the plug on it all anyway

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>>89085017
>being such a DCshill that you honestly think there's a sjw conspiracy against affleck movies now

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>>89079164
Excellent.

>>89084210
There's that and the fact that Kevin Smith isn't very political when it comes to the Hollywood scene. He's a tell it like it is guy and Smith says something about one of Affleck's co-stars and the media hears about it, Affleck's the one that has to pay the price.

There's an anecdote from Smith that one of the last times he and Ben hung out, Smith wanted to dish on some of Ben's co-stars including (ex-?)girlfriend Jennifer Lopez. Ben Affleck had grown up from that attitude and it hurt Ben and Smith's relationship

>>89080756
Yes, just like in the comics

>>89080477
nah im not saying that, but what Superman comics would you say are the funnest? And why are they any more valid than the ones that arent fun?

>>89083922
no, it is. they can work joints out way better than they used to.

>>89084120
because its message at the end is that people with mental problems need to work hard and rise above them instead of being put in a safe space and have them never progess

>>89090621
Not that guy but Silver Age are the most fun because the situations are outrageous and the solutions even moreso.

Plus there's little to no death.

>>89080756
I'm okay with that since Ben's batman is the best part of these shitty films

>>89080792
>1 guy being shoehorned into everything is better than 2 guys being shoehorned into everything

No.