Rebecca Sugar is great. She's genuine and comfy. Why do

>inb4 ugly

Don't even act like 80% of you arent ugly as sin

>>89023472
A former employee of hers apparently considers her an "abuser"

>>89023547
source?

>>89023472
Because people on the internet just hate.
we want to hate people.

Nice try Rebecca

>>89023472
Hey guys this is Rebecca Sugar, just wanted to let you know I can't participate in this thread because my vagina is bleeding.

>>89023472
Because in today's political climate, everyone is hyper sensitive to anything remotely seen as SJW.

>>89023472
I personally don't "pretend" she's some evil SJW.

It is my opinion she's a waste of talent stuck doing repetitive and quirky designs that just look really horrendous, she's not nearly as creative or innovative as people like to pretend, and she doesn't deserve to be on a pedestal for creating what is at best a sub-par show that will truly only be remembered by the fandom, or FOR the fandom outside it.

Also she has bad taste in glasses frames, the ones she wears look like she got them in a charity shop.

>>89023547
evidence, my good ol' chum?

>>89023472
She ain't even an SJW
She's just a fuckin weeb
But one of those cool weebs

>>89023809
Jesus Christ she's an ugly cunt. Would it kill the bitch to exfoliate once in a while?

>>89023837
>cool weebs

>>89023837
>cool weeb
>cool
>weeb
Pick one.

>>89023858
They exist

>>89023869
In fantasy.

>>89023887
1% encounter rate

>>89023472
her fan base mostly
but going back to her past drawing invader zim fan fics and EEnE porn, really makes me think she's just an actual nerd
Germ Harvest just made me respect her more

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>>89023925
>confusing weebs with people who enjoy anime

>>89023799
>>89023563
Not him but Lauren Zuke's private tumblr had a lot of posts about how Sugar was abusive and hated gays because she (Sugar) wouldn't make Amythyst/Peridot canon. It's not like it was Sugar's bisexual or producing her own fucking story or anything.

>>89023928
>having any kind of respect for shitty fanfic fanart porn "artists"
Anon please.

>>89023472
She's friends with a pedophile so there's that.

>>89023547
i want her to abuse me

>>89023987
Oh, interesting that you apparently know that she's still friends with Shmorky after the chatlogs came out! Are you her bestie?

>>89023472

Mainly because she looks like one. She seems chill enough in that vid, but I can't stand beta orbiters laughing their fat asses off at the slightest joke their goddesses make.

>>89023791
This is it for me, except the last thing. I don't know shit about fashionable glasses.

Most of her work is basically her taking her inspirations and barely painting them over with a loose coat. The homages are still visible underneath and everything she does seems to result in the same type of story of, "I need to make my characters cry 2/3rds the way of the story". Her comics suffer from this, too. Even in her thesis film, someone sheds a tear. I have no idea how someone can be so obsessed with crying unless she is literally just the biggest stereotypical woman imaginable and she boils down all emotions to crying.

>>89023925
>>89023957
This.

>Why does /co/ pretend she's some evil SJW
Who said she's evil? She;s just a hilariously out of touch feminist.

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>>89024305
and your reasoning for this statement is...?

>>89024561
I don't think she understands much of the world outside of her very particular scope of life and ideals. It bleeds into her writing.

>>89023963

>WAAAAHHH SHE WONT MAKE MY SHIP CANNON, ABUUUUUUUUSE!!!! SUCH A HATEFUL BIGGOT!

>>89024561
This: >>89024618
Citing examples of her work using:
>She has a fictional world where there were no Human wars and are no holidays
>Yet all the countries formations are still the same, technology is still up to date with present day. Even Asia, despite most of the reason for companies like Nintendo existing being thanks to the last 100 years of history.

>A Zoo full of humans who have been bred for generations because Gems keep them basically as pets
>It's more diverse than fucking Times Square in NYC and hasn't bred out into one genetic skin color at this point

>Has a big lead up to a climax of Steven wearing a dress on stage
>Failing to realize the entire point of guys crossdressing are people's reaction to it, either falling for it or the guy looking like an absurdly ugly woman. Not just that some little boy puts on a dress and people react by clapping and going along with it. It's a blatant "They're accepting!" message and no where similar to Bugs Bunny.

>Fails to understand the mindset of a young boy and writes him like a little girl who is prone to crying and emotional breakdowns. Boys and girls, especially during puberty, act different, and I've never seen a 14-year old cry as much as he does. Harry Potter never wailed as much as him. It's like when an adult writes a child character and it's clear they haven't interacted with a child in a long time.

And there's more, and more, and more examples where that comes from. She crams any racism and social issues into Gems so it ends up coming across as preachy with, "T-the gems hated the first sight of Garnet because they're LESBIANS!" while Earth looks like a race-war-free paradise. It's amateurish and wish fulfilling.

It's the same issue with that shitty Riot and Rule or whatever animated short about a black lesbian living in the 50's is somehow the popular kid in school and is allowed to be open about her lesbianism "despite the time period". It's erasing reality for willful ignorance and hope.

>>89023529
You asking me out?

>>89023472
Becky has a crying fetish and can't write men properly.

>>89025007
>>She has a fictional world where there were no Human wars and are no holidays
I honestly think that's the worst offense of all, trying to give your show messages even though the world presented has to bend over backwards to justify itself.

>>89024618
I don't think that is a problem.
Yeah, she's a bit of an idealist dreamer, but she led a show through four seasons, fifth coming soon.
How out of touch can she be if she can hold that enterprise together and get CN to humor her obvious abuse, homosexuality and teen sex allusions?
She may seem naive, but I think this is just her never talking politics, ever.
She talks about very personal, very human problems and solutions because those are universal.
And we have seen just how hard she punches often enough in SU, I think.
When they unpack crazy body horror and play it straight, hit the audience with death, grief, fear, trauma, discrimination, I think this is not out of touch media bubble people playing it safe, but young writers doing what they can to get their message across while hitting the audience with the biggest emotional clubs they can find because everything else would drive up the age ratings.
Their process is also very responsive and they take an immense interest in gauging reactions without intermediaries.
Frankly, you may not share Rebecca's political views but I don't think I have seen anyone more in touch with the fans, the show and everything inbetween.
If she is to be labeled a feminist, she is really one of the most egalitarian and circumspect ones I have seen. Because she calls out women on their bullshit all the time and simply lets everyone have flaws without making them evil for it. Nobody in SU gets called out for being annoying while having the wrong gender, but just for being annoying when they are. They all fuck up, they all excel, and they build relationships around that.
The show does put female characters front and center, but they are not just "strong female characters". They are flawed, complex individuals and they grow organically over time.
Even the Diamonds are not just adversaries, but characters with motivations and goals that are relatable.
She seems in touch with everything relevant, to me.

>>89025007
Why isn't there any religion in SU, for that matter?

>>89024194
>crying
S'pose the theme with her and crying is that it can reveal your vulnerable side or of that sort. And, she prolly think it is emotionally powerful.

>>89025883
Religion is like totally problematic?

>>89025834
>>89025883
I fail to see the problem.
The show aims at universal experiences so the audience can evenly relate.
That's why they cut out parts of reality that would make it harder to communicate across cultural and religious lines.
This is not a world where war and religion never happened, but a show that consciously cuts around them to avoid dividing the audience into camps.
Beach City is an intentional microcosm secluded implicitly from politics.
These things just aren't in the scope of the show and that shouldn't be a problem. Nautical technology and radiology are also outside the scope and not discussed because they are not relevant.
This is a show about growing up and the permanent reciprocity of social interaction within a social unit.
It simply doesn’t let the question of specific holidays get in the way of a message about what family means or how you can troubleshoot your relationship.

>>89026002
No, she just finds it funny.
Her words, not mine.
I have seen many female writers grow kinda sadist on their characters, so maybe it's one of those cases, at least to a degree.
But for the most part it would likely be about everyone in the show having personal crises they deal with, which tends to be when things get emotional.
It just mounts up between these factors, I guess.

>>89026447
And that's what makes it shoddy writing. It's point is to focus on the small scale development arc of a boy with powers but then involves the entire Earth and has bullshit of, "Earth has no race wars, political problems, war, controversy. Aside from pricks like Kevin, it's a paradise!"

If the show didn't WANT to involve the rest of the world in this small story, it should not have involved the rest of the world in this small story. There is a difference between let's say, we don't want to focus on World War I + II so we won't talk about it and we're going to actively retcon it but Asia and America are still going to be the exact same as present day. Logically speaking, most of Beach City should be overrun with Native Americans if there was no human nastiness, but it wasn't. For SOME reason, there are still black people from goddamn Africa walking around this place they wouldn't be otherwise if their ancestors weren't kidnapped.

Lilo and Stitch: The Series is also a small story about a child with an alien friend who collects monsters of the week that sometimes threaten the entire world with destruction, but they didn't need to tell me bullshit about how Vietnam War never happened in order to tell that original, fantasy story.

It's like, Sugar has this vague "deep lore" idea about Gems impacting Earth yet they never leave their house. Government doesn't give a shit about aliens. Only a handful of people ever investigated gems. Most don't seem to know what the hell they are, "because they avoid them", as if it's in human nature to not explore shit.

It's just sloppy world building.

>>89024644
best part? Zuke was hired without going to any prior art schools. He basically wasted a big break because his waifus aren't gay for each other.

Post-movie Spongebob has twice as much crying as Steven Universe

>>89026838
*She

>>89023472
She is an asshole in real life

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>>89023799
>>89023563

>>89026838

That is hilarious...

>>89026838
>big break
Hasn't come yet.

She'll make the biggest comeback and BTFO Sugar.

>>89023529
project harder virgin

>>89027188
I cannot see her pitching anything to Cartoon Network that would not sound like the cringiest fanfiction ever

>>89027007
Zuke pls go and stay go

>>89023529
that makes it okay right?

>>89023472
Because /co/ is insecure about fucking everything and they need to demonize anyone that represents any small fraction of something they hate.

>>89027007
More like she is really condescending when talking to people. I am not so sure she is intentionally doing it at this point.

>>89026757
>It's just sloppy world building.
I call it focused writing.
This isn't Star Wars. Exposition dumps help nobody connect to the plot.
You are trying to force things upon this show it isn't interested in.
If ghey hadn't told you they don't care about state-level politics you wouldn't have known the difference.

>>89027421
I think he has a point. The trouble is that Sugar wants to do the comfy slice of life AND global-scale crises. She wants to have her cake and eat it too.

>>89023963
it wasn't Amethyst/Peridot, it was Lapis/Peridot Zuke wanted
Zuke had a fit because Amedot is probably going to be canon despite Zuke pushing Lapidot hard

in her defense, Amethyst is worst gem

>>89027293
>pitch a cartoon similar to Rachael and Penny
>an episodic slice of life story focusing on two female "roommates" with instrumental rock as background music
>no underdevelop lore or anything simply the daily lives of the two
It'd be comfy as Hell.

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>>89027633
Sounds more like something you would have seen on late 90's-early 00's Mtv.

Cartoon Network only really likes lolrandumb these days.

>>89023547
I'm sure Ian can testify
;)

>>89023472
>She's genuine and comfy
>she's comfy
how much time have you spent inside her, Lauren?

Becky is not for bully

>>89023472
Because its easier to look at the superficial and make a judgment on that.

I remember how Kevin from Screen Savers tried to peg Jhonen Vasquez as "The King of the Goths's" because he made Johnny the Homicidal Maniac and Invader Zim, but Jhonen called him out and rejected that label.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-FjzlXUaoY

>>89023472
>evil SJW
the key here is that most examples of SJWs that people like to mock have a strong presence in the public or on social media. They want the attention. Sucrose has a reserved presence on social media, instead choosing to simply share pictures or promote her work.

In interviews and panel conventions, she appears to be very positive and grateful towards fans of the show. She is nothing like the SJW caricature that people like to make fun of.

>>89023472
>comfy
I remember when that was used sparingly on /v/ in the late 00's but now it's the perfect word to figure out if someone is cancer to this site.

>>89023472
I think she's great, but she lets people under her have too much control by letting them "storyboard" their ideas into the episode. It all comes out as kind of a mess. The stuff that works really works and the stuff that doesn't is terrible.

>>89024305
>Who said she's evil?
No one, OP is just making shit up.

>>89027450
So what?
Everyone does it!
The actors in the game are a few people and mostly conveniently isolated.
Because Jason Bourne getting arrested and held at the police station for hours because he runs around with a gun in England is boring.
Look at Wander Over Yonder. The galaxy is at stake and an orange optimist with his angry horse friend are the only people doing diddly squat.
In Voltron everything hangs on five pilots, a princess and her butler. Where are the stellar battle fleets? Where are the free empires fighting the invaders desperately?
Just not there because that's not the scope of the story.
How the hell can Marvel 616 police still find employees when NY cops die like Russian recruits in WW2?
Just not what the story is about.
Why does no state and no people interfere with the Crystal Gems? How did state borders in Europe get drawn? Who cares! We are talking about people coping with loss and trauma from a conflict not about human affairs at all.
The sad thing is you people would go lap up every handwave and try to argue it for fan theories.

>>89026935
*They :^)

>>89027952
why is it bad

>>89027980
if said by a normie then they are making shit up or repeating what they have seen elsewhere because they only interact with her at conventions.

People who have to deal with her complaining about models and heights twice a week vent often but not around here.

>>89023744
They aren't nearly sensitive enough. If they were, there wouldn't be anyone SJWing in the open.

>>89027421
>This isn't Star Wars.
I hate to say this, but Star Wars as a universe is actually very limited. It has the appearance of being vast, but, the moment you go out of the familiar, it loses appeal and recognition as being Star Wars. What the majority of audiences recognize as Star Wars isn't very wide.

It's lasers, storm troopers, x-wings, tie fighters, vader, light sabers, the force, jedis, and sith. That's about it. If you go outside of that it stops being recognizable as Star Wars for pretty much everybody.

That's not to say what it does or it did was done poorly but when you try to expand past that you get things like podracing, jar jar binks, and anakin skywalker.

>>89027450

>have her cake and eat it too

Out of context, but where does that fucking saying come from? Is it so old that it was seemed shameful and gluttonous that bakers would eat their own damn cakes, rather than leave them for their local lords.

>>89027036
>>89023963
>>89026838

>not realising people will pay MORE when the ship isn't canon for porn and non-porn drawings

it's like all those tumblrs dedicated to the hating of the Weasley family being the spawn of satan for stopping Harry Potter getting with Hermione, as if having a side character that actually gets some is a mortal sin. Zuke, you're an idiot for not securing future side money and keeping your job.

>>89027697

>Ian QJ and Sugar in a BDSM relationship

Why am I recieving that mental image of the stereotypical happy suburban family that's kinky behind closed doors?

>>89023472

To answer your question anon, this is the internet. This is what we do.

Honestly, most animators and people in the industry nowadays would rub shoulders fine with the individual people they met in real life. There's no real 'firebrands' famous enough in the industry that enjoy being assholes to cover up the fact that they're completely talentless. Either they used to draw pinups of cartoons to earn money while practicing proportions or they're quirky people, straight up dickheads just aren't tolerated anymore, at least for long.

Hell, Hirsch, Harmon, Roiland are probably the most quirky well known people in the industry if you knock off Parker and Stone.

>>89027387
Some people think a lot of others are condescending just due to their own insecurity. For example someone who has a bad vocabulary and feels bad about that may call anyone who uses "big words" condescending.

>>89023472
I wish they would have stopped panning to that fan art.

>>89028208
>Out of context, but where does that fucking saying come from? Is it so old that it was seemed shameful and gluttonous that bakers would eat their own damn cakes, rather than leave them for their local lords.

>Out of context
You're looking for the phrase, "off topic" or, "seguing."
You aren't out of context, just off the topic.
Here's the explanation for that phrase.
If you eat cake, your cake is gone. You no longer have the cake.

If you have cake, you haven't eaten it.

The paradox, of course, is that if you eat your cake, it will be gone and you will no longer have it, and if you want to 'have' (own) cake, you will have to not eat it.

By eating it, in this example, unless you get to extreme semantics, you no longer have it. The action of eating is not having. Having is not eating. The two are mutually exclusive.

Any other phrases you want clarified, by the way?

So wait, whats this about Zuke?

>>89027881
SJW is a caricature on principle.
If you aren't a joke of a raging keyboard warrior, a raging cry bully or a media whore, you pretty much can't be an SJW.
Sugar feels strongly about gay characters in children's programming because it affected her. She wants to address reality more honestly in fiction. This is fundamentally different from feminist ideologues who try to change reality by warping the way people think.
When she talks you sometimes feel like there has to be an ideological hammer to fall, but it never does because she uses some of the same language, but does not share the mentality of SJWs. She has no hate against men, doesn't judge people for what they are or how they feel, doesn’t argue race and oppression stack.
Hell, she dedicated her show to her brother and his wife!

>>89027881

> SJW caricature

Some ideologues are actually like that anon, they take their ideology to such an exorbitant extreme that they make caricatures out of themselves...

In my experience, the various ideologies that huddle beneath the banner of social justice seem to produce such individuals with concerning frequency...

>>89023472
>that Sonic looking dude with proto-Lapis is proto-Jasper
HAHAHAHA!

>>89028158
An interesting point, but irrelevant to my point.
Star Wars directly deals with diplomacy, army movements and political situations.
These things being in the title crawl and part of the film makes sense.
SU is cutting generously around these things, deals with the aftermath, the survivors. It's like The Hobbit. You run through the ruins of fallen empires, but politics hardly come into it because it's a story for kids and you have to focus on a compelling narrative. Rattling down factoids and background info is for the Silmarillion.

>>89028303

No, that's good. Cheers.

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>>89023472
>Rebecca Sugar defender

>>89028494
I'm not the same guy, but the trouble is that there have by now been too many moments where Sugar wants to get into Silmarillion-type shit. Like the fucking hand in space. That was some Morgoth vs Fingolfin shit. What's it doing in a Hobbit-type show?

And the Diamonds as a whole. They're space gods wandering around moping that one of their own was destroyed forever. That's Silmarillion shit.

>>89028494
No, the hobbit is like a fairy tale book of events that "actually happened."

And the silmarilion is like reading the dictionary or an encyclopedia. Or the bible.

Boring. Exhausting. And unrewarding.

I'm sorry Tolkien, but, your notes were really great and it's amazing that you had all this in your head and you left it for us. But your son put it into a book in the worst possible way.

>>89028556
I would argue that the Diamonds are around the caliber of the fallen, grieving Elves we see in LotR, more than the heroes of the ancient times.
They look intimidating only until you know them more intimately.
The Gems will not deal with their armies but them personally. That's why they are established as people.

>>89028732
My point is that SU does try to establish this comfy, low-key tone, but then it throws shit like the Diamonds at us. And it's neat when that stuff is on screen and we learn more about the lore. But then the show goes right back to the comfy shit. It's jarring and annoying.

The show hasn't moved forward enough. If it's going to have an overarching story they can't keep going back to their comfy well. At some point or another the show is going to have to get uncomfortable and stay that way.

>>89028592
Eh, Tolkien had no good concepts for a compelling villain, just Catholic ideas of elemental forces of good and evil as constants.
And disturbingly simplistic ideas of things being always greater in the past that always beg the question of how the fuck that even happens to come about when technological advance pulls you the opposite direction.

Don't you guys think it's a little creepy to start thinking that you know somebody just because you saw their cartoon? She's a stranger you've never met and all her interviews a con panels is just her acting acting like a normal. Don't you think it's kinda weird that you're making up a personality for some random stranger?

>>89028836
No. Humans do that all the time. For everyone they meet and see.
What do you think why celebrity gossip sells?
People love to speculate and make shit up. It's what we do, how we process the social order of the tribe, or what replacement we find.

>>89028890

You're projecting your strange habits onto other people. You put yourself in an echochamber so you assume the entire world is like that.

>>89028831
I disagree but that's not really the topic so I won't try to segue here so we'll leave it at that.

>>89028933
You are spouting nonsense.
And worse, shit you heard from other people and didn't have the sense to understand.
Have you ever lived in a village, ever seen a gossip magazine?
Knowing about people and what they are up to is a very important thing for humans.
I'm not saying everyone does it all the time. But enough people do it most of the time to assume it to be a general tendency.
Do you even know other human beings?

>>89028836
Creepy?
No.
Presumptuous?
A little.

Weird?
Not really unusual.

I mean you make a good point that maybe it isn't the most morally sound thing to do, but, as far as _normal_ goes? Humans make judgements and see patterns even and especially where there are none.

In fact, it's probably the one and only thing that we as animals are the best at and excel at more than any other creature. The ability to recognize patterns.
We're amazing at it to a fault.

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>>89023472

Hi, I'm Rebecca Sugar and I'm all about the love, but only specific to LGBTQ people even more specific to lesbians. Men who are looking for people to love them for who they are are not allowed to have it! Hahahahaha fuck those horny losers! TUMBLR FOR LIFE!

>>89029199
If it's a pattern
If it's a pattern
Assume shit about me

>>89029279
People will see patterns even where there are none.

S'normal.

>>89023837
>But one of those cool weebs

Yeah the "COOL" weeb that you wish you can fuck but she leads you on and friend zones you. Good job, anon!

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>>89025862

works for me! :D

>>89027007
>>89027387

Have you met her in person?

>>89023982
We all do that stuff here, dude. I have, you have, Hiro has...

>>89028061
That's what OP was talking about though, /co/, no one has ever accused her of being a bad person here, some will say she is pushing agendas but no one here would call her evil.
I wouldn't have any idea what other places like tumblr and reddit say though, but that's completely irrelevant to this thread.

>>89023472
>implying /co/ is one person
>implying it's not just a handful of autists who can't shut up about her
>implying the vast majority of us give a shit

We have this thread like every month. Sucrose is good, let it go.

>>89029407
I miss this meme

>>89028797
I mean the way the previous bomb ended they actually could go back to doing comfy shit and it wouldn't really be out of place.

I think the thing is that the show might go on for a few more years and sugar doesn't want to put all her eggs in one basket. If it was nothing but plot the should could very well be over in one or two seasons, but they have a quota to fulfill.

>>89025862
>>89026447
Nice try, Rebecca

>>89029241
Did the mean old Sugar lady ruin your ship?

>>89029241
Fuck off, Antimatter Universe Rebecca Sugar!

>>89023529
"She" 's not even ugly. "She" is so far beyond ugly, no one really knows if "she" really is a "she".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong

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>>89029539
I miss a lot of the old ones.

they were all sjw's but then southpark showed everybody how sjw's are the worse and the SU crew, after seeing how sjw isn't cool, had to quickly turn on the sjw's.

>>89027007
>>89027387
I literally met her and I have no idea where this could come from. She seems like a very genuine person. I don't know her on a personal level obviously, but it's hard to imagine her being an "abuser" either.

Pug Davis is better than that SU shit, but she had to grind from the tumbr koolaid, now all her stuff is bland as fuck.

>>89027475
>Amedot is probably going to be canon
Autistic gem x gem ships will never be a thing other than Ruby/Sapphire and Pearl missing Rose.

>>89029440
I used to occasionally deal with her about three years ago.

>>89029894
What do you like about Pug Davis?

>>89026757
How have any wars been actively retconned in the show? It's not a WW2 cartoon ffs.

>>89023472
>Why?

vagina

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>>89023472

because we need to think SJWS are evil and disgusting to feel better about ourselves. Simple enemies and simple ideas are comforting. See->The Alt Right

>>89027450
She absolutely can. The show is about alien crisis not human crisis. You don't see many if any media about aliens on earth paying any attention to human wars or whatever.

>>89030125
good jokes and dialogue, good art, grit, and PD's past piques my interest as i read it.
and it reminds me of Earthworm Jim, which I like a lot.

>>89029588
Well I'm allowed to think less of her for that. I believe the pieces are in place for SU to be a more ambitious show, and if she chooses not to take that route, I feel free to judge her accordingly.

>>89023837
She's a shit tier weeb who's knowledge extends to the most casual shit

>>89030286
The show is ambitious in bite sized pieces, but the filler can still be fun and it fleshes out the characters. The show isn't going away anytime soon, why not take some time and enjoy the ride?

great, another Sugar's clitsucking thread

classy as fuck /co/

>>89030368
But in doing that you risk the fact that, when it's time to do plot and lore, it's going to feel like two different shows.

I guess I would prefer a shorter, more consistent show. Maybe she's constrained by Cartoon Network.

>>89025883
Because they'd worship the gems and the gems would be all "no thanks" and then what since the gems are clearly beyond human ability to fight?

>>89030402
I agree, but nothing's perfect

>>89025007
>No wars
Renaldo talked about "Snake people" causing wars, Connie has games similar to Crusader Kings and Age of Empires on her Computer while talking about how Humanity is heading down a road of self destruction. How is there no War?

>>89029199

there's a difference "making assumptions" and "inventing an entire personality for a complete stranger"

>>89030402
Reboot SU.
SU KAI

>>89030269
I didn't understand the halo issue, where Blouse gets that glow and starts acting angry about everything.

>>89030646
Isn't that what he said? Theres products of war, but no war.

>>89030420
We'd worship them anyway, even if they told us not to. Do you even history of religion?

>>89030802
Why does here need to be a war going on at the time of the show? How do we know there isn't?

>>89030741
pretty sure it some kind of alienform that thrived off sanctimonious thought which caused him to act like a religious nut.

>>89030831
Re-read the other post, senpai.

It's that they make it a point that there has NEVER been any wars, yet, humanity acts exactly the same way and countries are still in their current day mode, as if war is not a direct result of certain progression in history.

>>89030831
This whole conversation is stupid and pointless. The topic of the show is gem aliens and small town stuff, not historical wars

>>89030921
Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but i don't recall them making a point about that or mentioning it at all.

>>89028331

Most SJW hate seems like nonsense to me, but "cry bully" is a great term and a real thing.

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>>89028331
>Sugar feels strongly about gay characters in children's programming because she is a pedophile and realized someone will fund and encourage her revolting fetish

Fixed

>>89027881
>>89028331
SJW is just a derogatory term for progressive. Don't overthink it, either trying to demonize it or rationalize it.

>>89030921

They never make that point and you see a jet get shot down by a tank during the sneeple speech.

>>89023809
She kinda looks like Simon Amstell

Zuke hates Sugar?

>>89023547
>A former employee of hers apparently considers her an "abuser"
In that crowd, that could be for anything.

>>89031251
Lauren said some rather unprofessional things about Sugar on her personal tumblr.

>>89031287
How do you know it's her real Tumblr?

>>89025862
>Frankly, you may not share Rebecca's political views
What's funny is that we don't even know what her political views are. She could be a Republican. She never talks about it.

>>89031421
I kind of doubt she's a republican.

I left /co/ because of her.
I miss some of you guys.

>>89031395
As opposed to her virtual tumblr?

>>89031043
You could not be more wrong. An SJW is a bully who cries. A crybully, if you will.

>>89031453
Or her metaphorical tumblr.

>>89031434
How would you know? She never talks politics. Her show has lesbians, but also stresses the importance of family.

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>she's not this cute irl

:<

>>89025236
>Becky has a crying fetish and can't write men properly.
>can't write men properly
Wow. Haha, oh wow. It's like living under a Nazi regime and one complaining a Jew didn't depict them right.

>>89031488
That sums up the internet in general.

You have a bunch of internet tough guys on 4chan and then you start a thread about posting an image that represents your day/life/sex life and all the sudden everyone's sobbing about how worthless and miserable they are.

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>>89023925
underrated post

>>89031513
The truth of the matter is that /co/ never has an idea of who they're shitting on because it's too much effort to learn their story when it's much easier to make shit up and repeat it ad nauseum until others repeat it.

>old /co/ - Comics & Cartoons
>new /co/ - Circlejerk & Idol Worship
fucking tumblr

>>89032631
Reminds me of men who hate feminists. Parroting endless bullshit they heard from other moronic men while men actively endanger our entire species. But FEMINISM!

>>89032642
>nostalgia fag detected

yup just keep eating ur member berries and thinking about how everything was better back then

>>89025236
>can't write men properly
>greg universe is a single father that is not a bumbling idiot and is shown to have personal issues but not demonized for it outside of the gems to a small extent but they are portrayed as unreasonable many times for it
Brah, that's great writing for male characters, for a cartoon at least

>>89032642
blame gamergate and smart phones

>>89028133
I hope for your sake that this is satire.

>>89029241
The reason LGBTQ relationships are the main focal point isn't because she "hates" straight relationships but because the former is more rare, she feels like it needs more representation, especially in children's programming

>>89032683
you have an entire site for your faggotry, go back there

>>89032685
those things were supposed to KILL THEM, not make them stronger

>>89029241
>Men who are looking for people to love them for who they are are not allowed to have it!
Rose and Greg are like the most talked about couple besides Garnet and she loved Greg for who he was once she realized human relationships aren't just all fun flings
Yellowtail is some kind of retard fisherman and Vidalia seems to love him just fine.

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>>89032709
I think you are on the wrong board

/pol/ is the board for retards to have a safe space

>>89023529
She's not ugly but short hair on her does not compliment her face at allllll

>>89032709
you're pretty dumb. gamergate caused reddit to cross over and /pol/ to spread to over boards. Smart phones make it easier for kids to comment.

>>89032752
>She's not ugly
>>89023809

>>89023861
Out of those choices? I guess I'll choose cool weeb.

>>89028133
shit like this only makes SJWs stronger
they thrive on playing the victim

>>89029328
I feel sorry for your non-existent sex-life

>>89023957
enjoying anime or ANYTHING Asian at all is the very definition of being a weeb
and autistic

>>89032874
well I guess that means we aren't allow to eat chicken anymore

or pig although ones a bit less clear

no horses allowed, or paper of any kind

also probably wanna get rid of 99% of electrons in your house, as they are likely Asian in origin in some form or another

>>89029241
Except the most successful pairings in the show are Greg/Rose and Steven/Connie.

>>89032726
don't deny who you are inside, that would be problematic

>>89032757
>/pol/
>not /v/
my reading comprehension is shit, but I still think /co/ of all boards got more tumblr refugees than reddit. Only animals phonepost

she's a fucking hack mate, the show is pastel space-rocks sing B-grade OC songs and overcome a moral "crisis" without learning an enduring lesson, all while pop-culture and anime references are sprinkled into the background

shit, let's take the premise for example:
>race of warrior aliens with skillsets far exceeding humans
>come to the human Earth eons before mankind first walked the planet
>civil war breaks out over the expanse of their empire, which is needed because their home is no longer as suitable as it was in the past
>the Earth in particular is considered to be of great importance
>small rag-tag group of benevolent aliens makes their home base on Earth after being marooned there
>angel-like savior complex over the much weaker humans
>one magical child is held to be our main protagonist, though many of the aliens are fan favorites instead
>several of the good aliens are shown to have character flaws and conflicts of group dynamics that must be overcome (sapily)
>token melodramatic "danger" where one of the characters is hurt, only to recover "But this time I'm stronger!"
>malevolent "home planet" aliens come to do battle, only to be defeated in skirmishes at remote locales
>some of these invaders defect to the good side
>token original ally turns out to be too edgy/extreme and must reluctantly be fought by protagonists
>world at large takes little interest to the existence of the alien race, or don't care to investigate when their cover is blown
>ancient alien ruins with powerful relics all over the Earth
>the Big Bad is teased, and the threat is portrayed ominously as a slow journey towards the Earth
>meanwhile a global cataclysmic event threatens the planet, and the adventure eventually extends into space
oh wait, that's the exact fucking plot of every animated Transformers since the fucking 1980's

>>89028007
The problem is that the show is telling that something grand and terrible happened, it went on for 1000 years (or maybe more) and afected the whole world, but there was no echo, the things like hugeass weapons and spaceships are still there, things that would be turist atractions in real life even if they didnt knew what it was, maybe specially if they didnt knew what it was, but no one cares or act like its interesting, exept in the diary episode, where its misterious and mistical.

Even when personal stuff happens no one cares, when a costume comes to life and starts chocking people with fries the reaction is "woah son, didnt knew you didnt like wearing the costume, guess i'll burn it down now" or when moss almost kill a bunch of teens "woah, look at the pretty flowers!" or when a spaceship that looked like a hand came from the sky and everyone in town had to leave EVERYTHING they had so they dont die and when they come back its bussiness as usual, like none of that shit happened.

It creates a disconect with the rest of the show, serious and dangerous things happen, but no one cares, so why the audience should care?

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Who dealt the biggest killing blow to western animation and storytelling. Sugar or Ward?

Didn't she shit on Donald Trump and say something about her and her friends being devastated at him winning?

That's definitely SJW-tier in my book.

>>89033068
>killing blow
>implying

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>>89033068
>Ward took a gamble with his boyhood dream, then dropped it when too many cooks stirred the soup and moved on
>Sugar continues to dictate her show's direction
Ward may have flopped first but at least he didn't slop last

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>>89033092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpnAlGG6Bk8

>>89033092
I think your confused Sugar with Zuke

also I'm pretty sure Zuke is the one who claimed Sugar was an abusive boss

>>89033032
Optimus Prime has a half human daughter? What the fuck?

>>89033068
John K

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>>89033224
ACTUALLY

>>89033236
who was the mother?

>>89033068

Anime.

from all the anti-safespace stuff and pro-conservative themes in the latest episodes of SU it wouldn't surprise me if RS was secretly a radical centrist.

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>>89033243
Bulkhead

>captcha: "I'm not a robot"

>>89032874
>says this while posting on a Taiwanese toon website
Self hating weebs are the best kind of weebs.

>>89033068
The networks. Makes me glad that i might live to see television die in my lifetime.

>>89031513
Yes, but not the conservative kind of family.
Which is the important part in any political discussion.
Even though actual historical household models included complete strangers entering through economical means and being treated as family for centuries.
And looking into my family history, making do with how it goes does not seem like a new thing, either.
I don't want to imagine how many gay relationships flew by entire towns when supposed cousins moved into some bachelor or spinster's house.

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>Didn't follow anything Steven Universe for the last couple months
>Come back to see a shit storm cival war in the boarders

Fuck, I've always known Rebecca tried to keep the SJW tones lower than tumblr would have you think and kept the show in tact, but I was hoping the team with her was on the same page. SJWs are going to destroy this show from the inside.

>>89032690
SU is also full of straight relationships, and single fathers for some reason.
Vidalia and Yellowjacket, Sadie and Lars, Greg and Rose, Steven and Connie, the Maheswarans, Lars' parents.

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>>89023861
"cool" weebs
are just peeps that are in to nerdy shit but don't let it define them
so you could ask are they still weebs?

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>>89023809
She looked better with longer hair

>>89034679
She a showrunner now.
Hairstyle takes time. Time she rather spends baiting hooks and juking Zuke.

>>89023472
She is actually oposite of SJW. While still holding social justice views what influence her show (and what it makes show into SJWs darling) but she also far more reasonable, levelheaded and understanding. She may insert ideas and plots what any SJ or leftist extremist will hate and you should heard about reactions to that on tumbrl (talking about uncle and Bismuth thing especially). She didn't even comment much (if ever) about US eletion what is rare these days.