>GOTH CHARACTER >Doesn't listen to goth music >Is

Define goth music

>>88998676
Siouxsie and the Banshees
The Cure
Bauhaus
Ministry
Type O Negative

>>88998721
>Siouxsie and the Banshees
Have you been thrown into the future m8?

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Why are you talkin shit about Ingrid Third?

>>88998676
The Bauhaus, Siouxie Soux, Sisters of Mercy, Tiamat, The Cult, The Cure, Fields of Nephilim, Lacuna Coil, et cetera. Get a clue man.

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>>88998676
>>88998721
>>88998764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gPLsOTveG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCkYVlIYsjo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTLWp6VBjoY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxhkQbfA0fI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGeDZ-sgAjA

>>88998721
So apparently all you need to be "goth" is to be obscure enough that no one has ever heard of you.

>Goth character
>Hasn't killed itself
What's the point, really?

>>88998676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3fKGAAY6RE
I think this counts

I can't believe that whenever some gothic need arrises, cartoonists just don't ring up Voltaire.

He's cheap, will work in pretty much anything and has experience as a VA.

>>88998787
And have an absolutely dreadful personality.

>>88998787
>The Cure
>obscure

>>88998676
Oh, I know that one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPbVRpRgHso

>>88998753
Was she supposed to be a goth or just coincidentally pale and wore black?

>goth character
>doesn't like gothic architecture

>>88998782
> London After Midnight
> goth

>>88998525
>really just a tom boy who wears a lot of black
>activist
>secretly likes stupidly cute stuff

the friend who is a girl is always just the alternative type of girl

>>88998809
The world needs more Voltaire. That man is wonderful

>>88998828
I thought that was a lost film

>>88998525
You're giving me flashbacks of my tool of a cousin who told people that he was goth even though he didn't listen to goth music or enjoy real goth culture. He was just goth because he dressed in black and thought dying was cool.
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Also OP you forgot the part where they quote Edgar Ellen Poe a lot.

>>88998839
Well duh. Why else would she hang out with primarily boys of midling to low social status?

>>88998864
The band is named after the film.

>>88998859
Voltaire is a gem. I'm personally not a fan of his more serious works, but I can appreaciate the fact that there are few forms of art that he hasn't tapped by now.

He's also a much more competent writer than I thought he'd be,

>>88998952
He's pretty BASED just for all the stop motion he's down alone.

>>88998827
>goth character
>doesn't destroy the Roman Empire

>>88999001

I remember him mentioning once that when he got his first animation paycheck, the first thing he did was rub it in the face of the people who said he wouldn't get anywhere -- iirc correctly, one of them was his (step?)dad.

>>88998787
Hello, no one. How's being a pleb working out?

>>88998787
none of those bands are obscure at all you troglodyte

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you just dont get us

If you can listen the the whole 9 mins of Bela Legusi's Dead then congrats you're a goth now

>>88999184
For one second, from the thumbnail, I thought that was Miraculous Ladybug.

>>88999279
It's so weird being old enough to remember when that song wasn't a cliche.

>>88998676
Shitty electronic

>>88999338
UNDEAD UNDEAD UNDEAD UNDEAD

>>88998787
Those are all pretty popular bands.

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Goths are just punks with better fashion tastes but with the same music tastes

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>>88999749
>same music taste

>>88999749
>the same music tastes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McAeQiLmEYU

>>88999786
>>88999791
We'll most Goth rock bands started out as punks

>>88999786
>>88999791
Goth was an off-shoot of punk. Early goth-rock didn't sound much different from punk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udEI_DD_oA

>>88998721
>no mention of Voltaire
>The Cure
Get the fuck out of my sight you preppy bitch.

>>88998525
Some people like black, why does that have to require an entire archtype that must be followed?

>>88999018
underrated

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>>88999749
>Goths are just punks with better fashion tastes but with worse music tastes
>Goth music
>taste
Don't get me wrong, Punk music is awful. Goth music cannot even qualify as music.

I'd be like calling a Toilet Paper'd house "Art".

>>88999875
Because if you like Goth fashion and dark aesthethics you better LISTEN TO OUR SHITTY MUSIC SHITLORD AND IDENTIFY AS GOTH or else you're APPROPRIATING US AND THAT'S SOOOOO PROBLEMATIC YOU HOT-TOPIC SELLOUT!

Goth b serial bizness.

>>88998525
>>Doesn't listen to goth music
Do you want them to get licensed music just so you can show the character listening to music that reinforces the idea that they belong to a certain subculture?
>>Is either stereotypically depressed or basically just a brainy and should've been a nerd character instead
>>You know they're goth because they dye their hair and wear black! That makes them Goth, right?
That's every goth kid I knew in middle school and high school. It's almost like a lot of kids just emulate what they see so they feel like they have a group they belong to.

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>>88999984
A well Toilet Paper'd house IS Art.

>>89000063
It's not like cartoons haven't had characters listen to generic rock tracks, all that needs to be done is make the guitar extra jangly.

>>89000063
>It's almost like a lot of kids just emulate what they see so they feel like they have a group they belong to.
That's the point of Goth isn't it? And has been since it's formulation. You cannot qualify as goth or be accepted by the other goths and goth grouping unless you conform to goth.

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>>88998721
>Siouxsie and the Banshees

>>88999749
wew lad

>>88999749
Fuck pan and tumblr for making goth lose all meaning.

>>88998525
>should've been a nerd character instead
My impression is that IRL school goths were a subspecies of nerd. The nerds who were cynical and artsy gravitated their cliques - girls especially, because it didn't carry the social stigma of full-on nerdom.

>>88999749
Jesus, that spiderweb bikini. Unf.

>>89000277
>Fuck pan and tumblr for
>pan and tumblr made Goth lose all meaning
>Goth
>Meaning
You're joking right?

>>88998787
Fuck off, you fucking pleb.

>>89000277
To find real goth stuff on tumblr look up gothgoth

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>>88999984
>Goth music cannot even qualify as music.
it must be hard being this fucking retarded.

>>89000196
It's basically how all subcultures protect themselves from entryists. Some don't and they get diluted until they are no longer their own thing. Others do it too much and turn in cults and circle jerks. Goth kind of did both.

>>89000478
What a brilliantly eloquent retort my friend.

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>>88998525
>You know they're goth because they dye their hair and wear black! That makes them Goth, right?
In the eyes of like 99% of the population, yes, no one outside of a bunch of overly pretentious mascara wearing men actually give a shit about what makes a "real goth" (and goths are nearly an extinct species anyway)

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>>89000411
Barbarian pls go

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>>89000788
>(and goths are nearly an extinct species anyway)

>>88998676
https://youtu.be/VvDZTP-5Ey4

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>>89001826
>tfw you were only 7 during the goth boom of 2001 and couldn't appreciate qt goth girls at the time
>tfw they've just been slowly dying out ever since then, almost non-existent outside of high schools these days

>>89001826
>FUCKING GLOBALISTS

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>>89001909
>It's the same fucking riff looped for several minutes
HOLY SHIT LEARN HOW TO PLAY MORE THAN 4 CHORDS. Why do people praise this?

>>89002538
Feel free to wank off to your progressive rock guitar wankery.

>>88998952
>Voltaire is a gem
Damn straight
his goth homemaking series is fucking fantastic

>>89002618
>tfw I like both progressive rock guitar wankery and Jack off Jill

Why can't we all just get along

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>>89002538
>needing more than three chords and the truth

>>89002658

I have the book and comparing it with the series really shows the progession of goth tastes. The book is what I expect all teenage goths to decorate their rooms like, the series is basically what happens when you're older and have money and realize that maybe mutilated dolls can be replaced with something else.

> that feel when I bought the bitrektual album because I wanted that sweet poster of him kissing Sulu
> didn't realize the poster was two-sided, so didn't specify which side to sign
> he signs the star wars side
> forever stuck not being able to display both the side I prefer and the signed side

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>>89002718
Me too actually. I think a lot of goths could like pre-00s Dream Theater.

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>>89002837
>every Ramone is dead

>>88998525
nah, nah, nah man, they're goth: They're just poser goth!

>>88998525
>person is only into the goth look
oh no, how unrealistic

This is a defining goth character
Anything else is pleb-tier

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>>89003057
Fucking pic

>>89003032
>They're just poser goth
Isn't that just the Goth equivalent term for "Fake Geek Girl" that nerds use or something?

>>89003243

Yes, but in practical terms is more like casual.

>>88998525
>You know they're goth because they dye their hair and wear black! That makes them Goth, right?
That takes me back, I used to wear a lot black, grey, and white in highschool, not because I was a goth but because those clothes were cheap and it would be easy to pick out my outfit each day. As for my hair it was naturally dark and I did keep it long and cover some of my face. I can see why people thought I was a goth back then. I don't think being a black goth would've done me any favors back then

>>89003401
Did you ever wear Dreads?

>>89003032
Fucking posers

>>88998810
does this mean most of /co/ is goth?

>>89003496
Yeah I do.

>>88998525

>that episode of Phineas and Ferb where Doof thinks Vanessa is talking about the vendigoths

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>>89001984
Uh. I had just graduated and reading trades Sandman comics and started going to a goth club near my college. Not my fault you newfags are shitposting here. Even bought some original Sandman art at con.

>>88998787
are you 12

these bands are pretty fucking lame but what

>>89004503
visigoths actually

>>88998676
ISOLATED

>>89004957
ALONE
APART

>>88998525
Never mind the goths. Are there any /co/ depictions of the Industrial scene?

>>89005078
Riddler on The Batman.

>>89005130
actually pretty accurate

>>88998676
https://youtu.be/oMQLBl_ihwg
Bloodhound Gang's goth song is best goth song.

>>88998721
You forgot Echo and the Bunnymen, Bela Lugosi is Dead, Temple of Love, and Incubus Succubus.

>>88998787
Does that mean Poets of the Fall is Goth music? What about Machinae Supremacy, they're metal.

>>89005344
Bela Lugosi's Dead is a Buahas song, not a band.

>>89000091
Ha Ha!

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>>88998676
i'm not part of your society
i don't follow your fads and rules
the darkness inside me is unlit pain
unlit pain

>>89003032
So Emo?

>>88998721
No Clan of Xymox? Xmal Deutschland? Cranes?

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>>88998525
>>GOTH CHARACTER
>>Doesn't listen to goth music
Charles Addams and Edward Gorey were around for DECADES before some talentless twats started looping drum beats in the Batcave, you pleb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAmGsM4Dids

>>88998676
>goth music

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_rock

>>89005344
>Bela Lugosi is Dead
that's a song. By Bauhaus, which he said.

>Incubus Succubus.
That is arguable. I like them but I wouldn't call them a full-on goth band. You'd have a better argument if you said Screaming Dead; IS is a lot more folkey.

>>88998787
this is bait.

>>89004690
this is better bait

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>>88998525
If you are goth, where were you, when we sacked Rome?

>>88999749
>the same music tastes
literally incorrect

>>88999855
butterflies start as caterpillars but they aren't the same thing.

>>89006533
Goth subculture didn't start with them, though, it came from the music

>>88998952
>Voltaire is a gem.

ehhhh he's okay. I like Chi-Chian but his homemaking book is really bad, and I don't much care for a lot of his attitudes. He kind of appointed himself President of Goth and it's not great.

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If I was Goth I'd be Nny but worse. I'm kind of fucked up like that.

>>89006620
> He kind of appointed himself President of Goth

To be fair, he's both highly visible because of his appearances in normie stuff and being very prolific. Goths could do a lot worse (remember when everyone was convinced that Manson was goth?)

My only problem with him personally is that he does that thing when people call themselves ugly to fish for compliments.

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>>89006732
Don't worry champ, high school gets better

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>>89006620
>He kind of appointed himself President of Goth and it's not great.
That's basically the OP in a nutshell, anon.

Goth has been shorthand for "gleefully macabre" since at least the early 80's and everyone knows what it looks and sounds like: American Halloween.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFwYJYl5GUQ

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>>89006992
But I love macabre stuff and I'm far the goth trope
I loved looking through this book as a kid

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I'm partial to The BirthdayParty. And to keep it /co/, pic related sorta.
https://youtu.be/SnWumLDmxdQ

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>>88998676

>>89006862
Or not. But you'll probably graduate anyway.

>>89007358
Hey. Hey, that's mean. Stop that.

>>89007358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jw7yk8hm_0

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>>88998525
>character isn't a stereotypical uppity cunt with no personality
>clearly isn't a tru goth

>>89002898
>Sulu
>Star Wars
Turn in your nerd card and cease all internet posting immediately.

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>>89007987
>Bram Stoker's Chocula

>>89007358
b8

>>89006389
The funny thing is the Goth Kids' music is based on actual Goth music.

>>89008777
No, no, no, no, we won't be on your faggy talent show.

>>89008801
Burn Down Hot Topic is the best

Is goth the most feminine subculture? I've never seen a male goth both in real life or cartoons except South Park. Of course I'm not counting musicians.

>>89008901
They exist, granted they're usually complete fat fucks or so lanky and caked with so much makeup you don't even realize they're dudes until the speak.

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>>89007987
>if I paint my turtle black will it be spook

I forgot how those late 90s/early 2000s forums were a real shit show too. I wonder if the Tim Burton forum is still around.

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/co/ never fails to reach new lows. It's like a dysentery carousel that keeps on shitting.

>>89008901
Depends on where you live. Most of the original goths hailed from the UK, then spread out in the '80s across western Europe. I haven't seen any goths anywhere in central Europe and eastern Europe only has them near Russia and Poland.

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>>89008901
I can count on one hand how many male goths I've seen in the wild since 2000, and at least three of those were Japanese tourists.

>>89008901
Sure

>>89008964
Why is it every single time there's an instance of "I could count __________ on one hand" a good portion of those are always nips? I swear, every single time.

>>89008901
It attracts girls more than boys. Also in media coverage, all mainstream goths are females. Maybe that's because goth is way more passive than other music related subcultures.

>>89008901
Goth is about music, poetry and self loathing. Well yeah, girls are more inclined to do that.

>>89008901
There are plenty of male goths out there, but this is /co/, and we're more interested is girls.

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Non-American/Music pleb here. What exactly are the defining traits of Goth?

>>89009428
Dark clothing
Into the supernatural, occult, and death
Bad personalities

>>88999865
Voltaire straddles the fence, he just barely remains goth.
>>88998721
>no Nick Cave
Make Goth Great Again.

>>89008517
Have you seen the poster, anon? One side is star trek, the OTHER side is star wars. It's why the album is called bitrektual.

>>89008517
What is basic reading comprehension?

>>88998721
>Ministry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuQheYFut4s
I don't think we have the same definition of goth music

>>89009602
>He doesn't know about Ministry's newwave days.
https://youtu.be/b9AZjaRmjss

>>89009428
What third world Slavic shithole do you live in if you didn't have goths around when you were younger? It's not just an American thing.

>>89010675
East Europe has more goths than Americans. And they have real things to get upset about.

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>>89008948
I wonder why i still come here are partake in discussions. It's evident that no one knows what the fuck they're talking about, and i suspect that most of the posters here are either underage or autistic.

>>89011383
jokes on you I'm sixty and have first stage dementia

>>88998721
>No Suspiria

At least the end of the goth fad means we stopped pretending Tim Burton was ever good.

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>le Burton was never good meme

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>>88999749
What if you're like goth and punk at the same time though?

>>89009428
>lots of repetition
>droning
>twangy guitars
>echoy sound

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>>88998525
>I never got /ss/'d by that older goth girl in high school

DELET THIS TIMELINE

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So what is the deal with comic artist and goth chicks? Real talk here /co/.

>>89012044
Do people really find this attractive?

>>89014629
Makes life easier for the colorists and inkers.

>>89007358
Why do white people ever have dreadlocks? Only black people can pull it off and even then they only look decent in select cases.

>>88998525
Well that is basically what goth has meant in America since like 1996

>>89009428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceYYgVyccXE

>>88998525
Listening to goth music imo makes someone less of a goth.

>>89012044
Then you're a poser

>>88998676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dblor-04xeE

>>89012044
What is deathrock?