He was 12 when the show started He'll be 18 by the end

>>88986182
Seeing him not get pussy(besides LSP) is a real let down

>>88986182
I wasn't even aware that he was aging.

>>88986212
P.b was into him when she turned 13 and was I've him when she became 18 and seeing how much he's matrured what's to stop her from being with him?

>>88986182
>How does it feel to have watched him grow up?
Considering his design hasn't changed to the point where most people didn't even notice he was aging, disappointed I guess.

Just like watching my real son grow up.

>>88986219
she's a dyke

>>88986635
Pb and marceline have been shown to want d and rug. Their either bi or pan

>>88986182
>How does it feel to have watched him grow up?
He didn't though, he just got more depressed, and the women of the show either hate him or became gay for each other.

It's what happens when you get a bunch of people who want to be so progressive and representative, and want to be the next Sugar without having the decency to preserve what made the show good.

Don't let hack writers ruin your show is all I learned from adventure time.

>>88986679
>inb4 seething guy saying "how so" and "(x) fallacy" seething at the mouth thinking Finn had good development after S4

>>88986635
All women want the D. Lots of dykes have gotten cucked by chad.

>>88986182
He didn't change visually.

>>88987254
>>88986218
>>88986182
>have a coming of age story that spans over 4 years and is still ongoing
>doesn't bother to give the main character any design change
Imagine Harry Potter but all the kids stay the same until Deathly Hallows Part 2. Don't even give him any sort of fashion like PB or Marcy either.

>>88986651
PB was shown to be an utilitarian workaholic that scoffed at romance and bordered on sociopathy. Finn's impossible love.

But at tumblr's request, the showrunners threw all that shit to the bin and turned into a run-of-the-mill tsundere for Marceline's rug, since tumblr and shippers are incapable of registering any other kind of characterization or plotline.

>pan
Doesn't exist.

>>88986679
This, its pretty awful that Finn has been reduced to having such horrid relations with most females.

Early seasons at least PB seemed to like having Finn around, now he's just a useful idiot to use as a tool.

>he grow's up
>none other character grow's up in the show

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>>88987334
He doesn't have "horrid" relationships with any females. Only the main 3 girls have had their interactions with Finn be developed in a bad way. The closest one to horrid would be PB no doubt.

>>88987362
>Early seasons at least PB seemed to like having Finn around, now he's just a useful idiot to use as a tool.
>seemed
But she did like having him around, at least when he wasn't being nuisance in her already busy princess life. She even wanted to stay a kid with him until Lemongrab came. That's when Sugar and the Bubbline writers made their move. Go in on the "love interest has interest but changes their mind" route for the "LGBT representation" brownie points.

>S1-2 - Likes Finn a lot (prominent love interest)
>S3-4 - Still likes Finn, but want's to distance herself from Finn because "responsibility demands sacrifice"
>S5-6 - Writers go creep mode with Finn and PB wants fuck all to do with him. Despite this becomes a cunt separate from this "arc" Pajama War in S6 mends the rift somewhat
>S7 Finn is more of a nuisance in Stakes, no really big development in terms of their relationship
Mayyyybe they'll mend more in S8? Probably not since she's all over Marcy, though.

>>88986182
Mentally he's 14 max

>>88987238
That was the thing though, it wasn't a fallacy, before all the depression shit hit they kinda left Bubblegum open as a possibility kind of, but there was no pressure.

The narrative was opening up, and the previous seasons were strong, so you were excited to see where things went, and then we got FP, and the ambiguos stuff with Marcy and Finn. Then there was more about the ice King and the past apocalypse stuff too. It coulda gone anywhere.

Sadly It started to go downhill after Sugar left and Pendleton stopped caring, he used to let people add things that seeed like they fit organically. But with an influx of people who were new and wanting to have that impact of the Marcy and Simon episode, without really understanding what made it good. I guess By the time Pen realized it'd went to shit it was too late to stop it.

Now it's ending, and it barely feels satisfying anymore.

>>88987334
>PB was shown to be an utilitarian workaholic that scoffed at romance and bordered on sociopathy. Finn's impossible love.
It was initially that, and because she was too old for him. But then we saw she actually did like him deep down in too young, she just kept that kinda stuff buried because she didn't ahve the time to be herself really. Like you said, a workaholic. So then they threw all that out in favor of turning a perfectly good female close friendship into lesbians because we can't have healthy female relationships in this show.


It's like they don't get Sugar drew the Marcy x PB shit for fun in her spare time, and missed the point of Marcy being the bad boy of the group, who was fun for everyone to hang out with.

shit it's finally ending? it's about time, shows run its course i think so. stopped watching a little bit after the reveal of his dad, is anything even good after that?

>>88987992
>Reveal of his dad
That's in the beginning of S6 I believe? Or somewhat near the middle I can't recall. There are good episodes in S6 and S7, but there are also episodes that are dull and fall flat. However, Season 7 is miles above 6 and 5 in terms of quality.

>>88986182
You're assuming show time tracks to real world time.

Ever seen it be winter in the show outside of Snow Kingdom?

>>88988038
You sure? Coulda sworn that was season 4 or 5.

I stopped with that shitty finale with the Lich build-up and his dad leading to nothing. And I think that was the same season as Breezy.

>>88988079
That would make sense but would be such a fucking copout at this point in the story.

>>88986182

> How does it feel to have watched him grow up?

In retrospect, I could have spent my time better...

>>88987904
>It was initially that, and because she was too old for him.
Didn't PB also have a miles-long waiting line of suitors that she had ignored for centuries?

>>88987904
Those were Natasha Allegri's drawings , not Sugar's.

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>>88986182
Me and him were the same Age at first. Then he was a little ahead of me. Now I'm 18 while he's still 16. It's weird

Guys...

>‘I think for Finn, it’s hard because I know things that are going to happen, but definitely just closure. For me, I’d like to see Finn possibly finally settle down and end up with a Princess, as he’s been having trouble with that over the whole nine seasons.’

http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/08/adventure-times-jeremy-shada-reveals-his-hopes-for-finn-in-the-final-ever-episode-6368644/

>>88986182
AND HE WON'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT

>>88991646
Well... apart from the robotic arm he was given at the beginning of Season 8 instead of the beginning of Season 6 because the writers forgot what emotional depth was

>>88988948
To be fair, she also made them all. I guess Finn just happened organically, not that it matters, gotta much that necrotic puss puss
>>88988962
I can't keep this shit straight, the info was like 4 years aold at this point. I remember there was a stink about it though.

>>88988962
On /co/, if you stub your toe, it's Sugar's fault.

>>88986212
Dude is unloveable.

>>88986635
She likes science more than dick.

>>88988971
IIRC he's 17.

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>>88992474
Can't blame her, though. That rat is T H I C C !

>>88986182
Would it be worth it to watch all the way through? I watched this and Regular Show when they first aired, but stopped around the 3rd seasons

>>88987334
>>pan
>Doesn't exist.
But i wanna fuck a person with no genitals

>>88986182
>remained a total faggot
Well, can't say it's not somewhat accurate to how kids nowadays grow up or should I say grow old.

>>88993124
Adventure Time is definitely worth watching all the way through. The show really grows into an epic with mythology, cosmic peril, and more of the post-apocalyptic dystopia aspect as well. Seeing Finn use his Grass Sword is worth it alone. Be aware of the artsy-fartsy 6th season, though. The Stakes miniseries was cool and the upcoming Islands miniseries is clearly going to be 1000x better!

Regular Show should really just be watched all the way up to the Season 7 finale. In the process, you finally see Mordecai get through all that love drama albeit not in the most satisfying way, and actually see Rigby grow as a person. Season 8 started out pretty well with a few gems here and there, but the direction it's taken leading up to next week's
S E R I E S F I N A L E has been a real disappointment. I don't even think we're gonna get any definite closure for Mordo & Rigs.

>>88986212
I haven't watched in a while. Didn't he fuck that fire bitch?

>>88995177
Nah, he was basically jacking off to her, so she left him.

>>88993124
Yes. If you're prepared to put up with some bullshit, then there are some excellent episodes.

>>88986219

He got tired of pb's shit and told her to frig off Randy

>>88986212
You're watching a TV-PG show did you ever bother thinking of that?

>>88986219
Finn not wanting PB? You do understand feelings need to be mutual, right?

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>>88986635
She's bisexual supposedly, but we have yet to see any romance between them for empirical evidence.

>>88986651
Not yet; they're best friends.
>pan
pic related

>>88987238
You do realize decribing what he says doesn't make him wrong, right?

>>88987305
>implying it's a coming of age story
Time passing and being relevant in a show doesn't automatically make it a coming of age

>>88986679
> he just got more depressed
In what way, exactly? If you watch the show you'd realisze FInn is out of that relationship funk before season 6 ends. Two female characters in the show repairing a broken friendship doesn't mean that suddenly every female ais gay for one another, how do you even get to that notion?

>progressive and representative writers
in what way? Not being right wing doesn't mean progressive. What we have seen is that every society is ruled my a monarch, how is that progressive. The show is pretty much teaching democracies don't work, with the most sucessful states being monarchies, which is the opposite of representative and progressive beliefs.

>don't let hack writers ruin the show
Buzz words that have lost meaning.

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>>88987838
I see a lot of interpretation, with no explanation of why that it. Rebecca Sugar was't the only one the wrote good episodes, and Pen Ward is still an executive producer that provides insight and feedback for the writers.

>>88988092
The comet build-up had nothing to do with the Lich, and that was towards the end of season 6. Martin made is actual debut in season 6.

>>88992203
No, the writers planned for his grass sword to become his new arm, with them seperating in the season 7 finale. It feels so long because CN can't schedule their shows properly

>>88995209
The real reason Finn split from Phoebe is because the writers realized they created a romantic plot tumor im an adventure cartoon(cough ben 10 alien force cough).

>>88992477
16 according to Muto

>>88993194
A person with no genitals is a genetic mistake, not a new gender. It's due to our large population these mutations seem more common than they ought to be

>>88995177
He could barely kiss her, their relationship was doomed from the start. A flame shield protects Finn from being burned, it doesn't prevent Pheobe's elemental matrix going unstable. In "Frost and Fire," Finn uses Flame Princess's insecurities to incite a fight for her. When Pheobe finds out she breaks up with him. They become friends again in "Bun Bun."

>>88987992
It's weird to say finally because they announced it was finally ending last year and it ends next year. The seasons are so goddamn fucking long

>>88996900
It's completely their fault. Finn/FP had its potential completely squandered since she hardly appeared. They didn't want to deal with her and when they did, they just wanted to end it as soon as possible.

They didn't tackle obvious themes FP's first appearance implied, like teaching an evil/morally ambiguous character to be good. They just glossed over it.

Not to glorify Sugar too much, heck I don't watch SU, but it seems like she was the only one who wanted to deal with her since she created her whole subplot.

>>88997740
Don't forget they relegated any real exploration or fleshing-out to a graphic novel which came out after or soon before they broke up.

>>88997740
Their relationship has had more episodes than any other, if anything FP did redeem herself after seizing control of the Fire Kingdom, ruling on honesty. It was tackled. Flint was already destined to end, only an idiot would think it was endgame
see here >88997150

>>88986182

You're implying that I watched him

>>88987400
>Jake's kids

>>88987755
What about "The Tower"?

>>88986182
Pretty sad honestly. Started off as a happy-go-lucky kid that just wanted to go on an ADVENTURE but ended up being depressed and as much fun to watch as a damp dishrag.

>>88986182

He's a disappointment

>>88988038
So far 6 has "The Tower" and "Something Big". Both good episodes early in the season. 7 has "Hall of Igress", "Crossover", and "Flute Spell". That last episode is especially great if you're tired of Finn being a hormonal wreck when it comes to romance.

>>88991022
That's so cute!

>Princess

I guess that means Huntress Wizard is a no-go.

>>88996730
What noteworthy episodes has Sugar written?

>>88986182
Like I wasted years of my life on a loser

Now I know how my dad feels

>>88996878
Well they're shit planners. (Mainly aimed at the writers, but CN fits that description too).

Why didn't Steven go through an awkward puberty phase?

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>>88998777
Yet is no longer depressed and goes on adventures in season 7. Hell, there is a miniseries coming up with him adventuring.

>>88999005
http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Rebecca_Sugar#Storyboarded
These are all the episodes she has storyboarded.

>>89000278
I still like ADVENTURE TIME Finn more.

I don't care if that's what Penn wanted I don't think aging him at all was beneficial to the show.

>>88999348
I don't know any Steven in AT. If you are referring to SU, wrong thread. However, he controls his body something like the gems. So he is a 14yr old with an 8yr old appearance.

>>88999005
some pretty damn good ones.

>people who grew up with AT post on 4chan
Fuck all of you for making me feel old.

>>89000519
Bringing back ADVENTURE TIME Finn would be jarring, and he probably would feel embarrassed of his earlier self

>>89000988
They should have never changed him in the first place.

The first two seasons were fun. They brought in the lore and took out the fun. They should've just kept in both.

>>88997740
Daily Reminder Bonnie can take a hair from Finn and clone a woman from it for Finn to fuck.

Finn needs human vagina.

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>>88996488
I mean it kinda is with him learning about relationships and good vs bad morals. Just a loosely based one.

>>88996447
I bet you're that guy. gtfo

>>89000349
A lot of Marcy episodes. Those are good, but I think my favorites on there are Mortal Folly and Jake the Dog.

>>88998777
>yfw you realize Finn's slow descent from happiness to depression is meant to mimic your life
this shit went too meta

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>>88991022
>Alright, we’re calling it – Princess Bubblegum.
Based Metro. Doubt it'll happen though, but still based.

>>89002774
Those two things are not what the show is about, so calling a coming-of-age story is a stretch.

>gtfo
If you want me to stop. contradict what I say when I point out the innaccuracies in common criticms. Have fun defending those that are wrong.

>>88987400
Marceline had her character arc so has PB and FP, Jake is still Jake even after having kids. Ice King finally has friends LSP is still homeless? The Litch King still wants to destroy all life. Also that dude Pb's uncle gumball has made like two appearances and was mentioned wayyyy in season 2 so let's see how that goes

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>>89004336
so you ARE superproATfag good to know get a trip so i can filter

>>88999005
Most of them in the show
>It Came from the Nightosphere
>Susan Strong
>Mortal Folly
>Fionna and Cake
>What Was Missing
>Burning Low
>I Remember You
>Simon and Marcy

She was popular as fuck and retards still say stuff like she was the only one who made the show good because she did episodes like these that people loved so much. In all honesty people just suck her dick because of Fionna and Cake, What Was Missing, and I Remember You. True greats like Morituri Te Salutamus and Chamber of the Frozen Blades get no respect I tell ya.

>>89004501
just use the minus button next to his posts/ works for me when he rears his head ITT

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>>88986182
>How does it feel to have watched him grow up?
Very mixed honestly, I feel the show did some good and a lot sort of shitty.

Think they did a good job at slowly but surely widening out his perception of things from being a crackerjack kid hero into a young adult hero dealing with lots of life's issues in an interesting way, and while his awful romantic tailspins weren't easy to watch when they were first going on I think they help round out his character a ton in the long run which is cool.

However I think they didn't do enough in lot of respects. Them aging him so slowly is dumb and they sort of just robbed the audience of 2 years of Finn's physical age for like no reason (he should have been 18 last March) so that's annoying. They totally fucked up on his physical design which is like the coolest part about seeing a character age as >>88987305 said, he looks the fucking same as a 16 year old as he did when he was 12, what horseshit. Sometimes they draw him taller but it's nowhere near consistent and even then him just being stretched out a bit isn't a satisfying design change.
There's also his relationship with other characters which have all stagnated tremendously. He's still PB's lapdog after nearly 7 years and is apparently never gonna be on an equal footing with her, which is lame as fuck. Instead of growing closer with Marceline as he matures (something that totally should have happened with their earlier relationship) he instead never interacts with her. And with Jake they're still butt buddies like they've always been, which isn't that bad, but some change (like say Jake having children and Finn and Jake having to deal with that) would have been really appreciated. FP is just who gibes a shit. I think Ice King is actually the best developed relationship Finn's had with someone since Finn so naturally went from identifying Ice King as his arch villain to treating him like his slightly annoying grandpa.

cont.

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>>89004926
Now the final nail in the coffin: I don't think modern Finn is as entertaining as Finn used to be. Note that I fucking adore Finn but modern Finn is just not as fun to watch and much more prone to sit there passively and not do as much. His voice acting is much more subdued which is either because Shada is bored of the job or the crew is purposely making him sound bored and disillusioned, but either way it does not make him captivating to watch on screen.
For all of Finn's development and depth, season 1 Finn was still more fun to watch and I cared about him more. He was hyperactive and ready to take on the world and beat the shit out of all evil but he was also sweet and sensitive and confused and at times overwhelmed by all the shenanigans that he got into but was always pushing forward and never even considered giving up. Easily more generic, but also much more interesting than modern Finn I feel. I think there was some big transition issues where they tried turning Finn from a fantasy kid Hercules character into one who felt more real and a lot of the charm was lost, which is a crying shame because Finn was wonderful.

I do still love Finn a lot, but I wish he turned out better. Easily could have been worse though.
A fully grown adult Finn (maybe looking like this gentlemen on the left) is like my dream character because all the shit I wish Finn did in the actual show could easily happen in the future. I hope the show doesn't show us how Finn ends up in the far future because I'm sure it'll be disappointing as balls.

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>>89004953
These 2 posts are everything I find flawful with Finn as a whole. Props to you good sir!

This is especially true when you grow up with him side by side as the show progresses alongside you. Just so frustrating to watch and slowly deal with over the span of 3 years.

>A fully grown adult Finn (maybe looking like this gentlemen on the left) is like my dream character because all the shit I wish Finn did in the actual show could easily happen in the future.
He doesn't get good arcs in the show and sure as hell won't get a good design like that. I'm 95% sure he's gonna go all hulk outta nowhere like pic related. I'll consider a slap to the face since he hasn't changed at all during the series.

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>>89005329
Ay thanks man, nice to know my faggy ramblings about a cartoon character weren't for naught.

Honestly, I would be fine with Puhoy Finn's design as like, Finn at age 40 or something. It is literal light-years better than Guts Finn's design, which is just plain bad. Those fucking chicken legs. It's very telling that Guts Finn is what 13 year old Finn hoped he would look like in the future since it's just him jacked as hell with a cool robot arm, but what looks cool to a dumb 13 year old isn't very cool in reality.
If he hits the magic 18 and turns into that I'll be damn near heartbroken.

I think Finn's arcs are somewhat of a different story, he gets some decent ones (I mean, isn't his entire existence an arc with him maturing over time? That's been pretty alright) but specific stuff usually gets screwed because the show doesn't wanna deal with it. No cool permanent prosthetic arm or something for Finn to get used to and become stronger from, no permanent significant other because fuck that's hard to write, his dad showed up like 4 times total, he doesn't get the most amazing story arcs.

Islands is a bigger make or break than most people realize for Finn I think, and I pray pray PRAY that the people behind the show use this golden gift to do some things right for the character because come on, give the boy some love you vindictive devils. He ain't never done nobody no harm.

>>89005486
>give the boy some love you vindictive devils. He ain't never done nobody no harm.
he stood in the way of bubbline he has to be purged anon. i'm not saying this as a shipper this has to happen

shhhhhhh it'll be over soon just let the white male die in peace so the millennia old homosexuals can kiss and forget about the boy

>>89005779
I always kind of felt the love of Bubbline/disdain for Finn was always separate except for Stakes, where they really did mine Finn for a lot of cheap humor and make him useless to make the gals look better.

Other than that it's just the writers liking their lesbians while not handling Finn the best, which I think is more accidental on their part and not malicious. I don't see them as crapping on Finn just so the yuri goodness can blossom, and there's no reason they can't have their lesbo cake and have the main character be cool too.

>>89005839
We differ there. I think the two are intertwined somehow, but I've go no idea how the writers mingle their ideas since none of us are there.

>don't see them as crapping on Finn just so the yuri goodness can blossom
>there's no reason they can't have their lesbo cake and have the main character be cool too.
Well it's just as you said. If they get proped up them as constantly badass who need no suitor while often devaluing Finn, they can give off the impression of the two being separate cases when in all everything's going according to their plans.

>>88986219
Pendleton Ward works from home and doesn't have that much influence on the show's direction.
-most of the old show's writers quit to work on their own projects
-current writers all despise Finn and he is now their Bart Simpson.

>>89005920
Eh, just seems both too mean and bad in the long run. AT team has made some dumb decisions before but I think they've all meant well, purposely making the protagonist shitty seems like a poor idea from just a financial aspect and shit you know? Their livelihood depended on the show so you would think they wouldn't torpedo the main character just so their crack ship could flower. And remember that they're so pussy that they won't even confirm said crackship in the show, if they were so head over heels for it that they're screwing Finn over then I'd imagine they'd go the extra mile. I definitely think they could get away with it.

Just am not seeing it dawg.

>>89005963
>current writers all despise Finn and he is now their Bart Simpson.
I don't watch The Simpsons at all. What happened to Bart?

>>89005994
Don't watch the Simpsons much either but I think he means Bart is depicted as a loser a lot more than he used to be. I know that's true for like every version of Bart in the future the show's shown.

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>>89005980
I'm still unsure. If they're slowly trotting out the ship they could milk fans. Giving Finn a barrage bad stuff, but also giving him a sminge of good so people don't completely lose interest from rage and throw a brick through the TV.

When's the last time Finn full on kicked someone's ass. Now compare that to Marceline and PB.

>>89006103
I still just think that's a problem that's not connected. They've sort of made Finn shitty on accident, and they've started shilling Bubbline quite a lot recently. The correlation isn't there for me.

Also, note that Finn started tanking like, a long fucking time before Bubbline came back. Frost and Fire happened in August of 2013, Bubbline returned for like 3 episodes around that time then vanished all the way until the end of 2015. Seems like a huge amount of downtime where they could have been enacting their master plan or whatever. I guess you could respond that they don't want to make it too obvious or something but that sounds just silly of them.

I'm not buying it but who knows what kind of politics go on in the writing room. Honestly it's probably nowhere near as scandalous as I'm imagining it to be but who knows.

>>88987305
finn's design is iconic, besides just making him taller im not sure what they couldve done to age him up without compromising it

>How does it feel to have watched him grow up?
And yet he looks the same throughout.

>>89006251
>B-But we can't change Finn's design you guise, it'll ruin all the T-shirts he's on
What a weak ass reason. I mean I get it, money is nice and all, but you'd hope that the team would fight for their art more and shit. I guess I would do the same in their position though.

>>89005980
>I think they've all meant well, purposely making the protagonist shitty seems like a poor idea from just a financial aspect and shit you know?

Wolfhard straight up said he had a problem with Finn in that he just wanted to write him as a dumb loser, but stopped doing that and started liking him when they were writing season 7.

>>89006563
One person does not equal the entirety of the writing staff. People always blow that quote out of proportion; most of the episode where people claim Finn was fucked over weren't even boarded by him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaUbi-7uBDg

Isn't he 17 now? Any sources on his current age?

Also am I the only one who likes Finn development well at least now that he's done being emo and can actually be around PB without making things weird I wanna see where things go with him.

>>89006602
Just saying, at least one of them actually admitted to doing that to the protagonist of their show for some reason. The fact that he did it at all is fucking crazy.

The episodes he boarded, for reference:
http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Steve_Wolfhard

>>89005486
>No cool permanent prosthetic arm or something for Finn to get used to and become stronger from, no permanent significant other because fuck that's hard to write, his dad showed up like 4 times total, he doesn't get the most amazing story arcs.

I definitely agree with this. I remember skimming over a thread some time ago where people were arguing about the problems of the arm and how he should have gotten the prosthesis in the first place, but I think if the one he gets in the upcoming mini series still functions exactly the same as his old arm (which it probably will) and doesn't challenge him in anyway, the writers will still be missing out on character growth that could really benefit the character.

>>89007109
I think he is still just 16. Pretty sure Muto tweeted that like a few months back or something.

I like his development just fine, especially since season 7 brought him out of that death spiral he had been in for a while, and there were some real nice moments in it. Flute Spell showed great improvement when it came to him with relationships, it was really nice seeing him open up a bit in Don't Look since he's normally so emotionally guarded, and he seems in general to be getting on the rest of the characters level more, at least I think.

It's foolish to hope when it comes to AT but I have some decent hopes for Islands, hope they don't dash them.

>>89007220
Stakes was amazing so I have high hopes for islands especially since it's a mini series with a set plot/arc

>>89005963
>>89005963
The show runner doesn't have final say regardless

>>89006011
>I know that's true for like every version of Bart in the future the show's shown.

He still becomes a judge in the supreme court. Matt Groening said that no matter what future episodes show, that was his canon end game.

>>89007182
>admitted
[citation needed]

>functions exactly the same
The grass arm he had could perform like a plot device, a prosthetic can't

>>89006274
It was pretty obvious OP meant mentally
>"Man, I don't want to be smooched"

>>89006103
>When's the last time Finn kicked someone's ass
The season 7 finale, Finn and Jake fought with Susan. Unless you're a technical faggot, "Normal Man"

>hurr baiting senpaitachi with lesbians durr
There is no difference in ratings for the bubbline epiodes and the rest in season 7

>>89005963
>current writers all despise Finn
How so?

>>89007375
https://www.apmpodcasts.org/conversation-parade/2015/07/storyboarding-and-bmos-multitudes/

Yeah, it could. So could the flower though, and having Finn not get a replacement at all could have been better for his emotional development in the end.

>>89005839
>Finn could defeat vampiress not even Marceline could take down
For the record, Finn and Jake were meant to be comic relief

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>>89004501
>>89004580
sorry for invading your safe space.
I have no problem with criticisms, but if your criticism doesn't make sense I'm going to point it out

>>89007541
Jesus Christ anime has terrible animation

>>89007455
His prosthetic can't turn into a plot sword.

>better without it for emotional developement
How so?

>>89007455
>43 minutes
Do you honestly expect me to sift through this shit?

>>88986182

Season 9 was confirmed for last season.

>>89007441
>senpaitachi
holy hell viewers*

>>89007455
I heard it, and he never says he wrote any episodes of him like that, just his intentions or how he felt.

Still 2 more seasons coming out
OP talking like the show is ending "soon"

It'll be another year or two.

Seasons 8 just started, prob. won't start season 9 until next year.

They said season 9 was going to be the last season, they said that what, 6-7 months ago?

They might change their mind and keep going.

This show prints money.

>>89007557
He would have had to get used to being one handed. Him having to accept the loss and having to grow and mature from that would have been better than him just getting it back and now having a convenient plot device for them to call back only when they feel like it.

>>89007667
You DOUBLE faggot.

Around 24 minutes in:
"I used to have a problem that I used to write Finn as an idiot..."

(goes on to describe how he did this in Lemon hope part 1)

"Meanwhile Moynihan writes him, it really changed the way I wrote the character, because Jesse writes him with so much respect... And I'm always looking for Finn to get hit in the head or fall over..."

"I think, and I've changed, I completely changed, but I think there was a point where I just wasn't interested in Finn, I like all the other characters but Finn I just wanted to be uncool. I just wanted (him) to trip and fall in the mud..."

Did I really have to transcribe it for you?

>>89007742
It already ended since no one but the most autistic "stop hating shows that I like" faggots care anymore.

>>89007921

I've only just started watching it,

I saw the first season or two on the TV when they came out, and forgot all about it, now I'm watching through it, just got to season 5

It would be so cool if, in whatever kind of captivity Finn is held in during Islands, his beard starts to grow a little, and we see that, yes, he does actually shave and without the ability to do so he starts looking gruff and rough. Might be the only way to age up his design without it being a total copout.

Oh man and his
And his
His hat can get lost and his hair is all over his head greasy and matted, and he pulls it back in a long ponytail and grabs his sword and just kicks ass and actually looks cool and utilizes any of the training he's received in the run of the show. Wow.

Guys, I'm pretty upset to have watched Finn the Human spiral into useless depression as hard as Anon the Human did.

>>89008119
>It would be so cool if, in whatever kind of captivity Finn is held in during Islands, his beard starts to grow a little, and we see that, yes, he does actually shave and without the ability to do so he starts looking gruff and rough.

I thought BMO always plucked his facial hair in his sleep to keep him forever young.

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>>88997150

>Finn becomes nice guy cuckboy in "Bun Bun."


POOR LITTLE WHITE FINN

He's probably going to end up with Huntress Wizard at some point. When that girl has her eyes on something she can't see anything else. And while she says she can never love him, she has her eyes on him

>>88996900
man who the fuck cares enough about ben 10 alien force to complain about it outside it's own franchise

>>88986635

"If she gay I'ma tell I'm a fucking dyke yeah.

Strapped up like a dike

Man made like a dike

Boosie faded like a dike"

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>>89005963
>Pendleton Ward works from home
wait what

>>88987755
>Despite this becomes a cunt separate from this "arc" Pajama War in S6 mends the rift somewhat

Wait what?

>>89007865
>"Jesse writes Finn with so much respect...."
As much as I dislike SU, SUGAR wrote Finn with respect.

>>89009146
>"Despite this becomes a cunt separate from this arc, Pajama War in S6 mends the rift...

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>>89004953
>Ponytail

What you had to say was cool, but I hope you know your a faggot for saving that. The tail just ruined the entire picture.

>>89006323

Not the anon, but actually if Finns design changed from time to time again it would probably sell for merch

>>89009170
Fuck you not that anon but I like the ponytail too faggot.

>>89009158
Yeah what the hell are you talking about? What arc?

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>>88986182
feels bad man

>>89009206
Well, i considered Finn's rocky relationships with FP and PB to be an "arc" (parenthesis included because it's just my thoughts.) I mean it could not be an arc but personally I think of it as an arc,

>>89009230
>parenthesis
Quotation marks*

>>89009217
That is one upset stand

>>89009316
the world can stop time, but not feels

>>89009351
What about Killer Queen?

>>89009351
I remember there was a pic of marceline using the world

>>89009737
>"using the world":
for what?

>>88987305
it is called brand recognizably

plus, he is as tall as PB now

>>89006011
It's all part of the war on boys.

>>88987334
>>pan
>Doesn't exist.

You know a magical world with fucking candy people and a living bounce house seems like one place where the term pan would actually apply.

>>89009744
Anon means using ZA WARUDO

>>89009773
Brand recognizably my fucking ass. Dora got aged up and her toys sold fine. Ben 10 aged up and his toys sold fine. And with the adult fanbase people like to tout about, they'd be clamoring to get an adult figurine of Finn.

Outta here with that shet.

>Tall as PB
Hell naw. He was tall as PB in Pajama War, then shrank in size. His height is wayyyy too inconsistent to track. Storyboarders draw him too differently to get any consistent trend.

>>89009834
not necessary
it is less of a "war on boys" and more of a side-effect of the "girl power" movement from the 90s

It was mostly a thing during the 90s and 2000s, but is actually gradually going away in recent years
there's been a number of shows to outright subvert this

>>89010059
Dora is still available in her original age, and Ben was returned to his original age for the re-boot

put that into your pipe and smoke it!
fuckboy

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>>89010080
>Dora is still available in her original age
So would Finn

>and Ben was returned to his original age for the re-boot
But there were still toys of teen Ben in Alien Force's syndication, wasn't there, faggot? Adventure Time also has no reboot in the foreseeable future, you faggot.

here's you (you)

>>89010127
but the grown-up Dora think is just a spin-off
not an actual thing that happened on the show

also, Aline Force sucked ass, and you know it

>>89009082
>he doesn't know what cuck means

>>89007865
You do understand that it's only one writer right? There are about a dozen people working on one episode, his problem is really a non-issue.

>>88987334

When conservatards are so desperate that they think a website is responsible for shaping a show that takes years to animate

>>89010152
But their grown up selves still got toys of themselves, right?

>>88986182
I've always liked Finn and Bubblegum.

They both get shit from writers. But their "bad side" seem perfect for each other.

>>88987992
I heard about it in the news and couldn't believe. I know it had a lot of bad episodes and development, but I'm gonna miss it. I'm gonna miss the characters.

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>>89012346
what is this "bad side" you speak of

>>89003001
I appreciate how he went introspective with his life and emotions, while progressing his teenage years. Teenage years are a bitch to most people.

>>89004515
Mortal Folly, What Was Missing, I Remember You, and Simon and Marcy were all good. Probably Mortal Folly was the best.

>>89009153
>As much as I dislike SU, SUGAR wrote Finn with respect.
What Was Missing is probably a top 5 Finn episode

>What am I to you? Am I a joke, your knight, or your brother? What am I to you? Do you look down on me cause I'm younger

>>89012424
Finn and PB can be a bit messed up. So I think it compliments them both.

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>>89012625
>Top 5 Finn episode
What's your top 5 anon. 2 episodes better be on there:

>Dad's Dungeon
>Mortal Folly

>>89012978
I haven't made a top 5 list of it, but What Was Missing, Dad's Dungeon and Mortal Folly are in it now.

Damn, Dad's Dungeon had a really heartwarming ending, and nothing will top Mortal Folly as a season ender.

>Are you cold... Finn?

>>89009170
Honestly ponytail is the one thing that I don't like about that picture, but the rest of it is so cool it makes up for it.

And I think adult Finn could do interesting stuff with his hair if he ever takes it out of his hat. I mean he does keep it longer than PB and Marceline most of the time, he just has all that shit bundled up in his magic hat.

>>89013030
>tfw not really touched by any of the songs in WWM
I mean yeah it's an average group episode, but nothing really stands out to me except Finn temporarily impressing PB with his "I'll forget about your hair and remember playing in this band" line and the dreaded birth of Bubbline. Everything else is okay I guess.

>>88996960
>Large population
>More mutations

As opposed to small populations and shallow gene pools having fewer mutations, right?

>>89014269
>nothing really stands out to me
dude
>first time PB/Marcy interact
>first time most of the main characters all interact at the same time
>2 songs in the same episode, I think this is like one of three or so episodes that did that
>also had a good bit of character development for everyone except Jake and BMO basically

Episode had a good amount of reasons to be important. And Finn's stuff was real heartfelt and sweet, it was extremely humanizing seeing him doubt himself compared to all his friends. It would be lovely if that could be used more since some of it even still applies in the modern show.

>>89014269
I like it since Finn said what he felt---what he felt towards Jake, PB, and Marcy. He probably felt neglected or looked down upon by them, and it was real, otherwise the door wouldn't open. He was willing to be in that vulnerable state, showing his emotions in the open, just so the group can progress in their mission. I liked that.

>>89006323
Why the hell are you stuttering?

>>89014497
is this your first day on 4chan dude, paraphrasing the opposition and making them stutter is a good way to make their argument seem weak and shitty. fags do it all the time.

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>>89014435
>>89014466
>first time PB/Marcy interact
The 1st was Go With Me, but that was on a smaller scale.

I understand and agree with all your points, I just didn't like the songs all that much.

> He was willing to be in that vulnerable state, showing his emotions in the open, just so the group can progress in their mission. I liked that.
Now that you mention it, I do applaud Finn for making sure the group didn't disband in an angry fit. It's unfortunate that we never got more of that side. It's similar to how he "changed" LSP in "Gotcha!" before they both snapped into the worst of their characters.

>>89014883
I thought the songs were alright. I really liked Finn's song but that was more for the storytelling in it and not the actual music parts, and Marceline was fine I guess but just having the bass backing it up was really boring. Would have sounded much better if everyone else's instruments actually contributed to the song itself and stuff.

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>>89009082
>Grass Finn cucks Finn by stealing Huntress wizard
>yfw

>>89012978
dad's dungeon is great.

>>89017967
What I consider to be the best episode of the series bar none. I wish Pen had been able to fit in the Johnny Cash song he wanted to put in there.

>>89014365
Irrelevant, only two real genders exist.

I stopped watching after the Music Hole episode, which ones matter enought that I need to watch to catch up?

>>88986631
Yikes

>>89020206
You missed three episodes.

>>89009082
best girl

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>>89026743
no this is best girl