The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom #1

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>>88881246
Interview:

http://www.newsarama.com/32254-classic-captain-atom-creators-get-to-the-core-of-the-character-for-rebirth.html

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>>88881283

>Cary Bates: When the project first came up back in the summer of 2015, believe it or not, what [DC Co-Publisher] Dan DiDio said he was looking for was a way to get the character back to what he called the core concepts of what Greg and I did in the '80s.

>But it had the stipulation that the starting point had to be the New 52 version of the character.

So with that in mind, what we set out to do was to not only introduce our character, but to give the J.T. Krul/Freddy Williams version a spectacular send-off. You could almost look at our first issue as the undiscovered, last issue — the unknown 13th issue of the previous run.

Somewhere in Kansas, heh

fuck yes

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>>88881303
That's our Eiling, even if he's a black dude now

Megala's design has been blandified, sadly

>>88881317
HI ANON

>>88881334
Keith Fucking david

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>>88881334
N52 Cap is existentially moody as a default, as opposed to 80s Cap

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>>88881379
the timestamps are so Weisman and okay, we're in 2013 here

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>>88881435
>23 minutes ago

#12 of the N52 ongoing ended with him sitting on the moon, and that means we're just going to ignore all the weird shit in Firestorm and let's definitely ignore Legion Lost.

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>>88881465

>>88881505
bump

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>>88881505
at least we'll always have shiny metal ass

>>88881526
storytime before coffee=kinda slow

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>>88881537
LOL

>>88881537
>storytime before coffee=kinda slow
Agreed

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>>88881576
coffee is love, coffee is life

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>>88881596
(and now, to make sure you knew what his technobabble status quo was at the time)

Basically N52 Cap was constantly struggling with instability and emissions, compared to being more of a sponge

>>88881596
This

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>>88881615
The parallelism of another underground dome is too good to pass up

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>>88881645
pfffft

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>>88881692
wait, we're not going to punch it out?

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>>88881717
The base was always in Kansas, but you just know there's some deliberate irony in "Captain Atom might explode over Kansas"

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>>88881753

...hoot hoot?

Also this is promising so far.

THIS is what DC puts out against Deadpool the Duck?! Are they even trying?

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>>88881777

>>88881334
Megala is a lot less physically disabled, yeah. A shame, he had a pretty great mad scientist look.

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>>88881796
hoot hoot!

It's definitely starting from the given point but moving elsewhere, I'll post solicits we have at last page

Also, come the fuck on, the Rocky Mountains are not in Kansas, it's FLAT (except for the flint hills)

>>88881837
He's disabled in N52 but even there far less strikingly

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>>88881864
;____;

>>88881505
>quantum fever
We're back baby.

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>>88881903
Wade, dammit

>>88881596
eh, it's great and all but I'm going with a beer right now

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>>88881934
>we're just before EXTREME JUSTICE now

>THE FALL AND RISE OF CAPTAIN ATOM #2
Written by CARY BATES and GREG WEISMAN
Art and cover by WILL CONRAD
“Past Imperfect” part 2! An overload in the quantum field forced Nathaniel Adam back to the 1990s, leaving him stranded. With no powers and no clear way to get home, he wonders how his presence in the past might affect his future. But if he gets his wish…will that future include Captain Atom?

>THE FALL AND RISE OF CAPTAIN ATOM #3
Written by CARY BATES and GREG WEISMAN
Art by WILL CONRAD
Cover by MARGUERITE SAUVAGE
“Back to the Future” part three! Transported to the present day against his will, Nathaniel Adam struggles to move on from the shattered life he left behind. But General Eiling and the U.S. government have other plans for him—two words: Operation Resurgence.

>>88881903
Good first line on the page there. Glad to see Eiling back. Didn't really like how Cyborg, GL, Superman were there.

>>88881753
>boo-ya
shut the fuck up cyborg...save it for TT Go

>>88881984
To be honest while I appreciate the characterization reset in our three main players and I really like some of the "look" of Atom as he struggles/explodes that was a pretty slow first issue. It was like a Rebirth issue, I suppose - the ones that came before the series. I don't mind that but it's probably not great for the health/sales of the miniseries as a whole.

>>88881995
> Weisman: I think, also, I wanted to bring back the general feeling that we had created. Eiling's gone on to have his own career as a character. You know, Clancy Brown has played him on The Flash on television.

We felt like the character of Eiling has gotten away from who he was in the '80s, who was this master manipulator. We thought of him as Captain Kirk gone bad. Instead, I feel like he's become this blustering, angry general determined to save the country at all cost. So he'd become more of a Thunderbolt Ross kind of character. And I actually like Thunderbolt Ross in the Hulk, but it wasn't ever who Eiling was.

So this allowed us to nuance Eiling back to the kind of character he was.

And Will Conrad, who drew the series, has done a great job with the new Eiling. For me, he's one of the high points of working on the series, because Cap finally has a worthy adversary — not just a guy who's yelling at him all the time. And that was a lot of fun for me specifically.

>>88882035
Agree, there's a lot of place setting.

But at least we know Weisman won't have this cancelled out from under him

>>88882058
I sorta wonder if Rebirth: Captain Atom was ever on the table as an actual series. But yeah, it's nice to have the safety net. Would be nicer to have 12! But I'll take what I can get.

>>88882098
I like minis for reintroducing some characters because it means writers have a very specific planned space to work in, they have goals that have to be accomplished, and then bam, it's sitting there all nice and tied up and ready for someone else to pick up and tip in to already ongoing material, or to be continued by the same team.

>>88882032
Yeah. I think some of the attitude of the heroes there is tied into the N52 and the N52 perception of Captain Atom but they don't come across quite right.

>>88881465
Legion Lost didn't happen, post-Flashpoint Legion of Super-Heroes didn't happen and if it did it was a time anomaly and should be ignored until it goes away.

>Rebirth: The Atom and Captain Atom released in the same week

>>88882166
I think that's a fine idea

>>88881717
Shock!

>>88881984
This was pretty good, thanks OP

>>88881807
ffs Hal

>>88882228
"Uh, I want to buy that Atom book? With the guy in the red and silver costume?"

>>88881379
At least he's throwing in some digs at Eiling.

>>88881537
Wait, when did Captain Atom get Firestorm powers like this page is implying?

>>88882468
New 52 version is a straight-up reality warper

>>88882482
(he also volunteers for Megala's experiment because he's mopey after his dad died and he's a self-destructive flyboy, which is a downgrade in interesting in every way from the 80s origin)

>>88882520
>mopey after his dad died and he's a self-destructive flyboy,
So New 52 Nate was Hal Jordan + Dr. Manhattan?

>>88882649
except with none of the charm, that's not a bad summation

That was a fine first issue, but a bit slower than I thought.

I just hope this "fixes" Nate back to his pre-Nu52 self.

I'm weeks behind on DC so I'll have to read this later,
But will this comic use the continuity from the N52 run or will ATOM GOD be ignored cause story>continuity.

>>88882771
I got the feels from original run though
Him constantly fixing shit to fuck it up only more felt relatable I guess, and art was really good

>>88883342
It was pretty slow. To be fair so was the first issue of the Hawkman/Adam Strange DEATH OF HAWKMAN mini. The alternative and faster way to do it is probably to start with the last page, flashback the problem, and get into the 1994 story quicker. The issue is like present - flashback - present - time displacement, you could've used the latter as the present and done present - flashback - present. But that would have more confusing and harder to get into if new.

IDK though, I was a little disappointed. Line-wide Rebirth hasn't worried too much about spending time lining up canon except for WW, which is cripplingly slow and has nothing new in it. Weisman/Bates only have 6 issues here so honestly as long as it remains Weisman/Bates the faster the better.

If every single issue ends with Nate traveling in time this gets a free pass.

>>88883453
This is a "we want the feel and basis of the 80s version back but we're going to get there from the N52 starting point" sort of thing. What's really open is how much of the actual 80s stuff/cast/history is coming back versus new material that's more like it than like the N52.

>>88881984
Thank you

>>88883730
Yeah, one of the exciting things about this is what will they keep from the old run and what will be new or be given a new twist.

>>88884762
I'm really keyed in to Weisman's comments about Eiling as antagonist, to see what of the personal relationship he might be tipping back in but also just the maneuvering on levels that don't involve punching.

And now I really, really want him to write a crossover with Prieststroke.

>>88884923
Eiling is very refreshing as a general who uses his mind and office more than force of arms. The "Captain Kirk" description from the writers really sticks with me: Eiling is full of bravado, but if you call him on it that bravado can instantly snap to action. And he just pulls people in under his wake, ties them up, it doesn't really matter who they are or what they like if he can find the hook for them.

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>>88885125

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>>88881246
Alright, Hoot hoot, Northern Hawk Owl edition.

>>88881334
>Megala's design has been blandified, sadly

I miss the wild red hair, the comic book as hell robot arms wheelchair, and the tender caresses he got from Babylon.

>>88882468
He used to be able to create and reset his own universes I'm the quantum field

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>>88885125

>>88881692
>Flash met him once

I kinda want them to meet again, to see what Cary Bates would do with Nu Barry, given his long run on old Barry.

>>88885376
That was only established in that Ostrander tag on to the original run that was trying to tie things into that Elementals Firestorm status quo, and IMO was a hard right turn.

>>88885474
I would read that

>>88881864
>Also, come the fuck on, the Rocky Mountains are not in Kansas

Anon, don't be silly. DCCW has FIRMLY established that the Kansas/Missouri border is right both mountains and the Pacific Ocean.

Or do you not watch the Flash?

>>88882036
>We thought of him as Captain Kirk gone bad

That... is a pretty good encapsulation of him.
Especially when you remember Mirror Mirror Kirk was prone to subtly 'disappearing' anyone who opposed him.

>>88885279
I miss Babylon in general.

It would've been nice to see him cope with Megala's death.

>>88882520
KIDS AND WIVES AGE CHARACTERS.
ALL CHARACTERS MUST BE ETERNAL BACHELORS.

EXCEPT BATMAN. BATMAN GETS ALL FIVE ROBINS. IT IS NOW CANON HE FIRES THEM NEW YEARS DAY TO FIND A NEWER, YOUNGER ROBIN.

>>88885438
How could you give up this glorious Heinrich? God I hope Babylon appears.

>>88881864

Yeah that looks more like Wyoming to me.

>>88885155
>>88885438
You can do such a detailed unpicking of Nate and Wade's relationship. I think the Gen has some of the feelings he has about Nate's own son for Nate, as well. Zmeck wasn't the first test subject for the experiment, y'know? And the apparently very sincere love they both had for Angela.

>>88885855
Now I want to go back through and see their ages; Nate was rocketed into the future at what was it, 26? Eiling wasn't a general then, but he was older, and the timeleap was 1968 to 1987, I think. Marrying Nate's wife is the linchpin that so many other things roll around.

>>88885926
Yeah, Nate was 28 and Eiling was a colonel

>>88885926
It's like, you can see just the absolute most base, conniving methods in what Eiling did to Nate and what he did after. But especially with how he treats Nate's kids you can see a sort of genuineness to it too: how would Eiling have been if it had all worked out in that moment? He got Nate in a difficult position and used it, but would he rather have a Nate than a Zmeck? It seems like it.

And the thing is the base and the heightened are actually both true.

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>>88885963
And the frame-up was to protect the conspiracy that Eiling was a part of whose ultimate goal had been military coup of the US government; I wonder if there wasn't a time at which Eiling viewed Nate as a potential protege, but he was too honest. And instead he took on Allard, who was much more easily controlled, and used him brutally with respect to Zweck. But Allard was always second-best, wasn't he?

>>88886071
Well, put it this way. Wade Eiling probably doesn't have much regard for single parent households, right?

>>88881777
Since when did Kansas border the ocean?

>>88886239
When they're at the coast he says "just a few seconds now", there was a timeskip approximately that long between panels.

>>88886393
No excuse for the Kansas Front Range, though.

Not bad at all, hopefully it will only get better.

Pretty good for a first issue though.

>>88881246
Being Nate is suffering.

>>88886721
Generation Lost resumes tonight, so yes, that is true

>>88881984
Am I reading that newspaper correctly? He went back to '94?

>>88886818
Seems that way. Interesting choice--it's after Bates/Weisman had had to end the book, and right around when EXTREME JUSTICE got going, so it's open if we're going to see the Nate of That Time, or this current Nate is just then, and the solicit spoils nothing.

>>88885855
Speaking of Zmeck, do you guys think we'll see him? In the Nu52, he was Blackjack instead and way different, but they could ignore that, I suppose.

We're also supposed to be getting a new villain as well.

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>>88887215
Yeah, of all fucking things he (and a white dude total caricature of Eiling who was all shouting and idiocy and no finesse) showed up in the LoT Firestorm story

>>88887051
It's also the year Kingdom Come came out

>>88886818
ZERO fucking HOUR with MONARCH/EXTANT TIME!

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>>88887973
not sure if want

>>88888047
who would not want a mesh of quantum power with the lords of chaos and order to bring some strange villain to fuck up the JSA?

>>88888120
Extant and Monarch are always such messes, and Nate had a really awful stint as Monarch...

>>88881903
>>88881934
Nate ;_;

>>88881283
This is such a nice interview. You can tell that they really care about this book, but still keep this matter of professionalism where they don't want to bad talk previous authors.

>>88881984
Thanks famala, this was a nice intro.

>>88885438
Oh dear Jesus what is that. Is that the professor? Jeez that's insane. I like it.

>>88888485
Yes, that's what Megala had become--you see him relatively hale during the 1968 experiment, and then it's a shock when he shows up that crippled, and his longing for recovery is a major driver in the original series.

shit, you wanna read the first issue of the 1986 run?

>>88888173
But Monarch is Nate at his most powerful form.

>>88889140
Monarch is also Nate doing Countdown: Arena

The preview pages for this really gave most of it away. I don't think it was that well paced.

Atomic bump

>>88889161
How was that anyway? Should I read it?

>>88890424
Countdown: Arena is the comic I refuse to do as a storytime of pain

>>88890496
That bad? Sounds worse than Ultimatum.

>>88890554
Ultimatum at least has some classic WTF moments to it that you can point and laugh at, C:A is a demoralizing grind that's not even funny in its badness.

>>88881246
So is this a read ongoing or a trade wait kind of book?

>>88890570
Piper The show must go on.

why the fuck he has this flaming hair thing on his head?

>>88891492
rule of cool

bumping to read

>>88893028
This

>>88881246
thanks OP!

>>88885155
>tfw someone screencaps your post

Feels good, man.

>>88895746
it was a good post and you should indeed feel good

>>88893005
Nuclear Hair

>>88895089

>>88890206

>>88881807
God damn it Hal, you are the worst fucking Green Lantern, the fucking explosion wasn't even yellow.

>>88900276
If you start thinking hard about the N52 timeline, this is a pretty n00bly Hal, except if you think hard enough about the timeline your head will explode.

>>88900649
Is that what keeps happening to Atom?

>>88900936
You get written as catastrophically exploding as a jackass in one incredibly influential book...

>>88901092
Truly it is an endless well of stories
>Captain Atom is hit and explodes - again
>Captain Atom is shot and explodes - again
>Captain Atom is hit by a nuke, which explodes, then he also explodes
>Captain Atom goes to the bathroom and explodes

>>88901329
Weren't they going to make him evil at some point and then right before the reveal editorial scrapped the idea?

>>88901353
That's the Armageddon 2001/first go around with Monarch stuff.

>>88901353
He actually exploded *on the page* before the issue went to press and they had to hastily rewrite it. They talk about it in one of the DC docu things, fascinating stuff.

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>>88901329
>>Captain Atom goes to the bathroom and explodes

Fucking Ollie.

>>88881334
>Everything ends
Nice counterpart to Manhattan's "nothing ever ends"

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>>88901329
>Captain Atom sees butter face and explodes

>>88885155
damn that would have been good indeed

>>88885438
Eiling just doesn't look as good without the mustache(but I'll admit I'm mostly familiar with the DCAU version of him

>>88896319
had no idea that DC had up any of the Charlton stuff, do they have it for any of their other characters too?

>>88904491
considering what Captain Atom is, that should have been something he'd be immune to

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>>88881717

>>88881692
We Kingdom Come now.

>>88904736
I never liked JLU Eiling. I liked the casting, but he was basically just Sam Lane.

>>88904736
He does roll back in with a vengeance later in the book

>>88885438
Why would they scrap that glorious design?

>>88907741
Because they suck. N52 Megala was much less distinctive, but everyone felt watered down content and design both

>>88905367
Aye

>>88907509
>I never liked JLU Eiling
How do you feel about JLA Eiling where he was basically Red Hulk

>>88909341
Wasn't a fan either. I prefer the scheming, pragmatic Eiling better.

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>>88904736
>had no idea that DC had up any of the Charlton stuff, do they have it for any of their other characters too?

>>88909516
Atleat he got a good voice.

>>88903213
I was just about to say that.

>>88882166
bummer

>>88883576
>>88883342
Great, I like slow stories.

>>88887404
I hope other writers stick to this version.

>>88901329
Now I want to play with Atom on a fighting game.

>>88904491
Who is that guy? Johnny Sorrow?

>>88911015
Yeah, but we know it's 6 issues max.

>>88883576
The justice league seemed like a time waster.

>>88911504
Which version?

>>88911555
>he's the joke character who instantly KOs both players the first time he gets hit

>>88911788
Yep. I assume they appear because they're gonna re-appear in future issues. If not Eiling's speech bubble is genuinely all you need to know there, you could've gotten away with a very brief appearance. Maybe someone decided it needed to be shown.

>>88911634
I think

>>88911803
The one that shows up on Legends of Tomorrow (Firestorm).

>>88911822

>Cyborg
>An issue is about retconing him as a founding justice league member

i hate that we can't just usa the JLA acronym anymore

>>88912762
Sad

>>88881246
Bump good read

bumping to read

The Fall and Rise of Captain Bump

>>88917965
Good one.

>>88917965
is anything more powerful in the comics world than Captain Bump?

>>88919403 more atom

>>88881537
>>88882468
he seems to be losing the trasmutation powers. I think its because he will roll back to the chrome-metallic captain atom.
The pre-new52 can trasmute stuff, but he is way less proficient than firestorm.

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The end

>>88881303
>>88881334
>"Did I kill anyone today"
>"Don't worry, if you did we'll just blame the Justice League guys who helped you."

Nice.

>>88915494
I only recognize Nate and Major Force. Who are the rest?

>>88915494
Nice.

>>88918415
Maybe Doctor Bump.

>>88921154
Thanks Preacher anon. You are the best.

>>88921181
The gold dude is Waverider and the Silver multi-armed guy is Silver Shield.

>>88921181
Starting from the top -

Silver Shield

Middle row -

The Ghost/Alec Rois

Major Force/Clifford Zmeck


Ironfire/Martin Allard

Bottom row -

Bombshell/Amy Sue Allen

Captain Atom/Nathaniel Adam

Waverider/Matthew Ryder

>>88921254
>>88921267
>>88921280
>>88921282
>>88921384
Thanks /co/mrades.

>>88881615
>creates massive amounts of energy by splitting atoms and reforming them instantly
m-muh laws of thermodynamics

>>88921478
Sorry i deleted some of my old post.

>>88921511
Why?

>>88904491
>six billion
>Captain Atom's symbol is a star
>he's burning
OY VEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>88921623
Wall of text

>>88920137
I'm all for it, personally. The final arc in Nate's 80s solo series was by FAR the weakest one, at least in my opinion.

Having them try to jump straight to a mix of that and Doctor Manhattan-alike with the nu52 series was my big peeve as regarded it.

>>88881246
nice cover

>>88921268
You welcome anon

What is this about? Is this the classic version of the character or is this a New 52 reboot shit "alternate" version?

>>88923044
It's about walking back to the 80s version in terms of thematic essence but starting from the New 52 version to get there.

>>88923221
That doesn't even make any sense.

>>88922661
Agreed very cool.

>>88924068
Did you read the interview?

>>88924068
How does that not make sense?

>>88923013 .

>>88925533

>>88925586
He got blacked by Barry when flashpoint happened but couldn't break back out of the speed force like Wally.

Thanks OP
Bumpity!

gracias