Omniverse>Ultimate Alien>Original Series>New Series>>>>Alien

Alien Force = OS > UA > Omniverse > Reboot

>>88872916
>Alien Force=OS

>>88873103
Yep. Seasons 1 and 2 were really good. Season 3 was more of a mixed bag but still pretty good

>>88872542
switch AF and omniverse and that sounds bout right

Omniverse=OS>AF>Reboot>UA

>>88873687
acceptable taste

>>88873238
I felt like I was watching something that actively hated the show it was supposed to be a sequel for

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>>88873687
Objectively true.

>>88872542

I'd put Ultimate Alien way down the list; it forced a gimmick that really didn't add anything (and made a lot of the aliens actively worse; prime example being Spider-Monkey) and the extended story lines sucked big time compared to its standalone episodes.

It was the opposite way around from Alien Force, which had a strong central story but mostly terrible filler episodes.

>>88872916
Omniverse was by far the best. Best writing, best animation, best character development, best character design. It was objectively much more well done.

>>88872542
Angry schoolmistress Gwen with her disregard for bras and perky boobies really gets my motor running.

>>88876199
>Best writing,
No. Not bad, but not very good.

>best animation,
Hell no.

>best character development,
Not particularly.

>best character design.
Hell No. Omniverse's designs were some of the worst in the entire franchise.

>>88876990
This
Onmiverse fags can't accept these facts tho

How the hell does anyone like omniverse? It's like the new Teen Titan shit.

>>88877438
Cause it had lots of gay stuff ad ugly girls

>>88872542
OS > Reboot

>>88876990
>Omniverse's designs were some of the worst in the entire franchise.
it's more of a hit and miss for me. but bulky big chill sucked!

>>88876990
>he thinks art style and animation are equivalent
It definitely has the best animation

>>88876161
I actually see UA hated more than AF, and was always confused about why

>>88877438
>respects the lore of the original series
>same tone as the original series
>the TTGo of the franchise just because much art style

>>88872542
This Gwen is my favorite.

>>88872542
Man of Action female characters will always end up being good looking and attractive waifus!

>>88879709
Gwenfags are the worst

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>>88872542
OS Gwen >= OmniGwen > Power Gap > nuGwen > Piss > Shit > Cancer > Ultimate Alien Forced Shit Gwen

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>>88873687

Well done.

>>88879738
it looked more like a xenofag speaking desu
Gwenfags have only one waifu, unlike those fishlips lovers

>>88872542
Alien Force=Ultimate Alien=Original Series >>>> Reboot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crap >>>>>>>>>>>> Omniverse

>>88880530
Opinions like this can't be taken seriously

>>88872542
TIME TO SQUASH THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL

Best Gwen from best to worst
Omniverse>UltimateAlien>AlienForce>OS>NuBen10

Best Series from best to worst
AlienForce>OS>UltimateAlien>Omniverse>NuBen10

to be honest i feel feel like the best of what makes ben10 good is condensed in the original series and the first season of Alien Force. not only that but part of what makes alien force so great is because of the OS. you can't truly appreciate AF unless you see how much of a little shit ben was in OS. Ultimate alien was a cheap gimmick to have new aliens without actually having new aliens (although i will admit that the aggregor storyline was pretty good, i liked the way it was handled) Omniverse was a travesty and an insult. no only did they make him more childish but they also retconed a bunch of shit. NuBen10 is a lost cause.

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>>88880038
Gwen was supposed to look hotter in Alien Force. And then they gave her a tamer design and manjaw.

>>88880843
>complains about retcons
>enjoys Alien Force

Omniverse only retconned AF's retcons.

Also, early AF is so different from OS that I don't see how they can both be the best of Ben 10. AF took away the adventure and characters and made everything take place at night in Bellwood city with a Ben who's personality change wasn't explained until Omniverse, a suddenly good Kevin and a Gwen who's no longer magic.

>>88880038
Still think this is a shop.

>TFW the series ended with no one winning the Ben Bowl

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>>88876381
Are you the same autist who keeps posting comparison screenshots looking too deep into to affirm your arbitrary and laughably vanilla no-bra kink or is there actually more than one anon buying into that shit?

>>88881620
Someone please explain the joke here

I know that sticker and all but don't understand why she'd be embarrassed by Bens comments

>>88881698
think about them as cartoon character and not just siblings in their version of reality.

>>88881735
Its the fact that Ben is more surprised that Gwen is pregnant than that they're being portrayed in an incestous relationship

>>88881564
>he doesn't know
Didn't that girl from the OS who liked Benwolf the winner?

any lewds?

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>>88881880
maybe

Omniverse only slightly edges out over the Original Series due to taking only the good parts and dropping the bad from UAF. Omniverse needs the Original to stand in it's quality.

Additionally, Rook was a really good addition to the team. He makes a really good straight man for Ben, with the contrast of experience/knowledge; but he also plays well next to Gwen and Kevin, both in different ways. Hell, OTTO motives (the Rook and Kevin episode) is one of my favorites due to the character designs.

Although I admit I am slightly biased towards character designs- it's a big part of why I love Derrick J Wyatt's other main show, Transformers Animated, and Steven Universe as well. Being able to get a read on a character before they even open their mouth, AND being able to compare and contrast them with grunts/background characters is what makes me love a show.

>>88882165
Omniverse did give us characters that were a lot more expressive

>>88882165
>>88882256
that gay shipping tho

>>88876381
Its funny. In flasback episodes, 11 year old gwen already have noticeable boobs. Puberty did her good

>>88881912
Fast forward to Alien Force
>hurr durr it's not Magic it's Alien Science

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>>88876990
>Omniverse's designs were some of the worst in the entire franchise.

>>88883244
omnifag detected

>>88881664
I'm not, but just look at them. Bras keep boobs in a rounded shape, ones that are set free generally have a teardrop appearance due to the natural sag. And we all know Gwen is a closet perv so no underwear is almost a given for her.

>>88881301
Of course it's a shop, Anon, she clearly prefers ITV!

There's no big black cock joke down here, sorry.

Now I feel like watching this. What am I getting into?

>>88881301
>>88883321
well it was a Dr.Who fan request with a co character but since it's AshesG, he turned it into something more subtle there

but the pic itself isn't a shop

>>88883414
w-why is that live Gwen kinda cute?

>>88883196
fast forward to ultimate alien/omniverse
>hurrr durr it's both magic and alien science

>>88883334
A decent cartoon with fantastic lore.

>>88883570
>omniverse has to fix AF's shit yet again brown footpath

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will be there more to come, Splooge?

>Requesting OS Gwen with any of the expressions in the first and second lines

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>>88883855

I wasn't interested in omniverse due to the art style, but I'm intrigued. How does it stack up to OS and UAF?

>>88872542
I dunno man, Alien Force and Ultimate Alien were essentially the same show with a different omnitrix and "the public is aware of Ben now" separating them.

>>88883855
>>88883884

Damn you are such a beggar that it is patethic.

>>88884038
I personally think it was a great bridge between them. It tries to link the lore and character inconsistencies, brings back many people and aliens who never got much time before, and the Ben/Took dynamic is really good. It wavers near the end but was a great ride.

>>88884038
Closest to OS in tone.

Better than UAF.

The best way to describe it is Ben 10 meets hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.

>>88884159
sure, whatever to help you to feel better with yourself

I hear the general consensus is that ov is the worst one and os af and ua are the best, why is 4chans opinion different

>>88884812
not so sure about ua but I kinda agree with that statement

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>>88881660
>>88881693
>>88881718
>>88881740
>>88881754
>>88881778
My poor Charmcaster why wasen't she redeem

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>>88885502

>>88885502
>>88885650
I just feel pity for her
She wasn't even hot but not sure if she got what she deserved in the end

Also that fixxxer comic

>>88885771
>that fixxxer comic
Did that get an ending yet?

>>88883527
Same thing happened to Doctor Katherine Pulaski when she worked as a lawyer or something except the elevator wasn't as close I guess. https://youtu.be/Mj8FIbuoWPY

>>88885838
That was the end sadly
Was a real tease
A tease comic ha

>>88884812
I have never seen that consensus

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>best gwens

>>88884812
The hell are you talking about? I have never seem anyone outside of this site say that AS and AU is better than Omniverse.

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>>88883884
WHERES THE EJECT BUTTON!

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>>88885771
It's hard to feel sorry for someone who killed a few thousand people and tried to sell their souls to an old god.

>>88887478
so cute

>>88887577
>YES!
>Yes!
>Yes.
>Nope

>>88883698
I did like that Ben basically rebooted the universe as he remembered things, kinda. Which was fun.

Also I liked how the show progressed and the Human and Alien groups became more integrated.

Whole lotta half breed plumbers incoming.

>>88887806
>>88887834
more gwens please

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Would've preferred OV over OS if these two were subtracted.

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>>88887834

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>>88887982
>>88888069
good to see other like her in that outfit

>>88888269
Fuck I love Prophet, shame I can barely find any of his stuff anymore. Or did he stop doing art and I've just been out of the loop?

>>88881693
This is one of my favorite episodes because it points out something I never thought about before

Life gets boring when you're a master of magic.

>>88888164
this one is oddly hot

>>88888218
yeah those clothes look kinda sexy on her

>>88888725
sassy 3d vixen

>>88881912
>kamehameha vs galik gun
>even the colors match

>>88888888

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>>88888828
>I miss those reminders

>>88889137
nice

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>>88888784
>>88888725

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>>88889246
even in cgi she was hot

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>>88889273

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>>88889325
check out the gwen thread on trash if you wish
there's some gwens there too

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>>88881620

>>88889405
damn

>>88889509
this was way better than what they gave us in the end

>>88889688
>dat questionable inviting pose
hot

>>88879454
No I don't. The animation wasn't anything special, but the art style sacked ass

>>88883465
She kinds looks like Wonder Woman from the JL cartoon

I'm confused, was there a season of omniverse that primarily focused on the younger Ben/Gwen? I thought at some point there was a reboot with a design that looked like the original but with freckles.

>>88889802
ew those fishlips

>>88887834
Yes, I would actually like more of this, thank you

>>88889765
they had a few flashbacks now and then

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do you get along with your female cousin(s)?

>>88889596
That one on the very bottom right is porn right? I want to know before I spend the next while digging through paheal.

So what Ben 10 series are worth going and watching?

>>88890034
just original series really
the rest suck

>>88890139
YES / NO / Yes / No

>>88890139
That second pic. What in the actual fuck? Was that nonsense about them wanting less porn of her legit?

>>88890034
The original, then skip to Omniverse

>>88890250
Nah / YES / NO / Yes / NAH

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>>88890180
No, it's an animation error. They accidentally used teen Gwen assets.

In Alien Force young Gwen looks better

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>>88890349

>>88872542
What's with the hate-boner for it? The designs?
I've only experienced the very first Ben 10, and the rest were through other people talking about online.

>>88890139
>>88890180
>>88890592
Another thing that gives it away as an animation error is that her shirt doesn't have the cat on it

>>88890180
>>88890592
I thought it was just a lazy shorthand way of showing the movie AU versions of them in cartoon form.

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which?

>>88890883
It was suppose to be the movie version.

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>>88891246
1
all the way
deep down all inside

>>88891362
Agreed.
It suits her better.

>>88891874
eww

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>>88873687
Best taste in this entire thread.
>>88872916
>>88877438
>>88880530
>>88880843
a look into these guys heads
>tfw to smart to like cartoons
>tfw to smart to have fun
>tfw to smart to have standards
>tfw to smart to not see how rehashed assets from JL were just reused
Vilgax was literally made into darkseid, there are no excuses for how much UAF shat the bed

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>>88881046
>complains about retcons, enjoys Alien Force
okay, i'll bite :)

>Omniverse only retconned AF's retcons
technically the way AF did it was more along the lines of expanding on The Lore than straight up retcons.
Kevin was originally just "some mutant" and his
alien backstory was a way to expand on who he is.
i'll admit that Gwen also being a alien hybrid was lame but the whole "mana is the secret behind magic and anodites just happen to be made of mana" was a decent enough,(i would have preferred that more non-alien people could have a bigger role but whatever)

Omniverse's just jumped out and said "yeah, remember all that stuff we said was true? well, we lied, lol". with the AF "retcons" the OS isn't nullified because agian, AF just expanded on OS, but with the Omniverse retcons you can take chunks of alien force and just throw it in the garbage

(tho to be fair i think it was cool how omniverse was self aware with it's retcons when they had the whole alien x incident and they had to fight celestialsapiens)

>took away the adventure and characters
dude, your being over dramatic, you cant have summer vacation forever,It's Ben10 not Phineos&Ferb10

>made everything take place at night in Bellwood city
summer vacation is over and he has school,they weren't just trying to be "muh grimdark"

>who's personality change wasn't explained until Omniverse
>dude really?
his personality change is completely understandable. he just grew up and got more mature. are you honestly telling me that when you where 15 you acted exactly the same as when you where 11? part of what made omniverse suck is that it made him just as incompetent and immature as when he was 10.

>>88887761
>>88892028

>sumo Gwen got her own toy

how about that!

>>88881080
>tfw you unironically liked this episode just because you couldn't help but like it

am i the only one?

>>88892308
>summer vacation is over and he has school,they weren't just trying to be "muh grimdark"
To add to this, there's plenty of times where it was daytime. The whole "le Alien Force was all at night" meme is retarded

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>>88873687
Ultimate Alien was better than Alien Force. Alien Force was a mess and tried to make magic into Aliens, then they realized how dumb it was and reverted it back to magic is magic in Ultimate Alien. Also, the original plan for Alien Force was to have Ben form and train a team of heroes, which was scrapped a few episodes in. They also couldn't decide if Ben was goofy or some kind of super serious elite veteran super hero with martial arts training.

I loved Omniverse Gwen's short temper and new look.

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>>88876990
>best animation,
>Hell no.
It really was, Alien Force and Ultimate Alien were really wooden. It also had the best choreography.

>>88876990
>>88877024
Oh, they are trolling, ok.

>>88892546
>>88892640
No wonder your opinion is so shit, you're a tripfag.

PS: Just because they don't agree with you, doesn't mean they're trolls.

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>>88883698
>>88883196
you guys have a rudimentary view of what both science and magic is.

if magic really DID exist than there would actually be a scientific explanation for it. You could technically have a loophole where the mechanics for magic are to complex to understand scientifically or something along those lines but the statement still stands. The whole alien-magic stuff in Ben10 is actually not that bad when you think about it.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic

>cheers!

>>88892546
please read this post >>88893050

>>88892308
Omniverse Ben was more of a believable Ben evolution (young punk) than the preppy, reasonable sometimes-slacker AF had.

>>88889765
Not just freckles though. She's got boobs too

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>>88893050
>>88893225
Irrelevant. You're missing the point. The point was that "magic is Aliens" was what they tried to do. We would be able to catalogue, understand and quantify magic if it existed, but that doesn't mean it's not magic. Electricity does not stop being electricity just because we learn more about it.

>>88892924
Nice try, you're not fooling anyone. This is the last and only reply you are getting.

>>88887577
kek, can someone please tell me whats with this AF gwen sucks meme? is it just because she is "bland"?

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>>88893448
She is very bland. No trace of her original design remains. Her hair isn't even the right color and the lips are genuinely hideous. In one episode of Ultimate Alien, we saw young Gwen through a time portal and they gave her those same lips, and the negative effect they had on her design were noticeable.

>>88893274
>u wot m8
more reasonable evolution or more similar to the OS ben? Omniverse ben isn't an evolution at all when you compare him to the oiginal ben.
Infact, he's worse because the reason that original ben's incompetence was justified was because he was just 10 years old (You ARE supposed to mature with age after all...)

>>88893612
>No trace of her original design remains
to be honest i'm not part of the "borderline pedophile club that fauns over first gwen" i didn't think she sucks but i'm not into little kiddies

i didn't start sexualizing her until she STOPED looking like a little kiddie so AF gwen ain't so bad for me.

>all this contrarian and derivative samefag shit-posting.

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>>88893409
>Irrelevant. You're missing the point
actually no,i think you're actually missing my point

>Electricity does not stop being electricity just because we learn more about it
okay, this is a good example.
like, imagine what it would be like to show a caveman a tv or a phone or some other tech. For him it is magic because his mind has no context for something like that, i also noticed your alien x webm (sweet vid by the way :) tell me bro, other than the fact that gwen magic is pinkpurple and alienx is black&white, what separates alienX from magic wielders? for the most part the only reason AlienX isn't using "magic" is because it would ruin the themeing of the show.

what we consider "magic" and "science" is really just semantics to help our minds compartmentalize it. seriously, go read that tv tropes page, it will give you lots of insight :)
>seriously "just do it" http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic

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>>88894920
Here anon. Have some more webms.

>>88894949
thank you

>>88894133
>:)
Confirmed bait and shit post.

>>88893306
Young gwen didnt have boobs you stupid anon, unless you have any proof to back you up?

>>88889688
I wonder who voices japanese Gwen

>>88893050
>applying real world logic to a TV show

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Soon.

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>>88872542

>>88896778
Oh sweet Jesus I must know what this is.

>>88897586
New skuddbutt render.

>>88897675
I didn't know who that was before now, but I am damn glad you told me.

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>>88872542
I still don't find Gwen all that appealing after all these years, why /co/? Show's alright, but what many anons preach in here about gwen is wrong.

>>88883465
>>88883502
the stuff with Elena during UA kinda felt like the writers giving the people who did the LA movie a giant middle finger for some reason

>>88884038
overall it's pretty good, but some of it's changes/retcons felt unnecessary, and there's some issues towards the end of the show(including Ben's romantic relationships being handled very badly)

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>>88883884
*Free Space

>>88872542
>Alien Force
>Ultimate Alien
>Reboot
>Not all being equally shit
Omniverse and the OS are the only ones worth watching.

>>88892308
>technically the way AF did it was more along the lines of expanding on The Lore than straight up retcons.
>mana isn't a huge fucking retcon
They also completely changed the characterizations of a bunch of characters. Vilgax was also pretty retarded in AF/UA, nowhere near as threatening.

>>88884038
I prefer the alien designs in OS, but Omniverse comes pretty close. It actually manages to make the shitty designs from AF/UA decent and not generic. The character designs also had a lot of personality.

>>88880038
>>88881301
>>88883321
*Big Ben Cock

>>88893880
Since I was a 12 year old when the series first aired, I kind of had a crush on Gwen so seeing her relatively cute design get manhandled like that really bothered me.

>>88893880
So basically you're a faggot with shit taste. Got it.

>>88899956
same

>>88896778
>>88897675
Must know more!

>>88888350
He stopped making lewds, if anything.

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>>88901856
Here anon. Have some XLR8.

>>88901910
fantastic

>>88901961
is there a 1080 p version of the original series

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>>88901995
Yes

>>88902005
do u know were i may obtain such an item

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>>88902074
Browse through the archive. The links are probably there somewhere..

>>88902096
alright thank you

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>>88896778
Make her younger gwenbro pleeease

>>88901956
Holy crap her face hnngg

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>>88880038
>>88880843

File: Grey Matter.jpg (377KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

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Now for some Grey Matter.

>>88902647
Nice, but what is it meant to convey?

>>88902647
So make love, not war?