>Alternate universe story >Everyone dies >"It's

>>88680036
>Alternate universe story
>Character from "our" universe dies
>Replaced by an exact copy from the alternate universe
>Never touched upon again

It's hard to care about anything that happens once you start to introduce alternate timelines/universes.

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>>88680051
>Alternate future story
>One character is total badass
>Disappears after future saved
>Replaced by bratty kid version in current timeline

Does this happen often or just my imagination?

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>>88680036
>Threat from the other alternate universe that it destroyed comes to the current universe

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>>88680036
>Alternate universe where a character is from gets fucking destroyed
>Sent to another alternate universe where another version of them currently reside in as a way of solving the problem
>They're okay with it

>>88680036
>alternate universe story
>"our" universe is destroyed
>"our" character from that universe goes to "their" universe
>"their" version of the character dies and is replaced by "our" version
>nobody ever really cares or brings it up again
>despite the ability to revive "their" version
B
R
A
V
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>>88680130
In what other scenario has it happened?

>>88680285
I wanna say X-Men given how many time-travel stories they've done, but I don't know for sure.

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>>88680130
at least they brought Trunks back for super, though I wish he kept the end of Cell saga design, it made him look older.

>alternate universe story
>everyone's uneasy or untrusting towards their alt versions
>except that one guy
You know the one

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>>88680130
>He hasn't watched Super
I've got good news about Trunks sir

>>88680313
They use that design because of Toriyama rule of hyper muscular transformation is inferior because is slower and some bullshit, when he transform in that he get buffed like this >>88680130 for a secondand then just blue energy because anyone remember why Toriyama does this shit of the skinier form is superior?

>>88680051
I always hated this. I think futurama did this and I couldn't care anymore because I knew it was a different character then what we started out with.

I think it was the "late Phillip J. Fry" episode where the cast we followed were now in the last universe that died and Fry, Bender, and Farnsworth just stuck themselves into the new universe, none of the cast is the same though except those three. Rick and Mortey doing this didn't bug me as much though for some reason, even though they made it more dramatic. I guess it just being shrugged of is what bugs me.

>>88680396
Didn't Futurama did that the previous season with the original Fry dying as Lars?

>>88680396
Futurama didn't entirely shrug it off though, since being from an old universe was one of the reasons Fry could defeat the brains, right?

Besides, it's a comedy, reverting back to the status quo is par for the course

>>88680051
Star Trek Voyager did this, just so they'd have an excuse to murder harry kim in an episode.

The writers hated his actor.

>>88680375
it started with the OG Super Saiyan God form, which has pretty much been thrown away for Blue.

>>88680436
They did that to O'Brien too in deep space 9

>>88680255
Biching about Superman?

>>88680130
>That ending
What the hell. How?

>>88680346
He doesn't need good news, he hasn't put himself through that horrible shit show.

>>88680724
(You)

>>88680051
>It turns out our universe was the alt
>entire main cast brutally killed sans 2 leads
>replaced with exact dumplicates
>never brought up again

Fuck Andrew Hussie.

>>88680036

I prefer alternate universe storys were a single event changed. Like a what if scenario of a specific event or a specific choice that changes the outcome of the series than on after.

It's cool to see the different universes or what ifs turn out in different ways and gives what the characters do in our story more weight.

>>88680430
No Fry could defeat the brains because he did the nasty in the pasty. Becoming his own grandfather.

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>>88680794
even worse
>"Exact duplicates" of characters replace the ones we watch die in final act
>EXCEPT THESE TWO CHARACTERS ARE INEXPLICABLY GAY NOW?
>EXCEPT THEY ARENT REALLY??
>EXCEPT MAYBE THEY ARE?
>main character will never bring up that he pretty much saw all his friends and family die
>and also did we say main character? fuck that guy! Lets focus back to who's alternate-universe fucking already!
>THE END

Fuck Andrew Hussie indeed

>>88680794
>>88681309
I never got around to reading the finale after the long hiatus, and feel like I should at some point, but I just don't care at all and seeing shit like this makes me actively not want to.

>>88681629
Please don't do it.

>>88680051
The SU episode of this exact plot was the thing that started to turn me away from it.

>>88681629
Don't ruin the webcomic for yourself by finishing it.

>>88680436
In that same episode everyone on one of the versions of Voyager died. And there was an episode where Janeway died repeatedly. Putting the attention on Kim and killing him and replacing him with a different one meant they wanted to flesh out his character more, not that they hated him.

You know what character the writers hate by who gets the fewest episodes focusing on them. In voyager that was Chakotay, Neelix, B'elana

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>Alternate universe is an "evil" or "backwards" universe
>The bad guys are still bad guys

>>88681817
>fucking time travel when the empire wasn't even as advanced as it is now
>nothing comes from it besides Steven learning not to mess with fate again
unless gemkind is fighting across the multiverse that's an awfully powerful artifact to sit on a backwater planet

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>>88680036
>Characters from the Original give no fucks about murdering their AU selves because "we're the only ones that matter"
SG1 was pure kino at times

>>88680036
>Alternate universe story
>Alt character is significantly more likeable than original counterpart

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>>88680051
>Alternate-universe replacement for said character is offered
>Refused because "THAT'S NOT MY [X]"

>>88680130
>New future gets created by time fuckery
>worse shit gets brought up later along the line
>>Extra points: This is fixed through more time fuckery

>>88680396
Rick and Morty didn't shrug it off.

Morty comes out and tells Summer that he's not even "her" brother, he's an alternate-universe version of himself, and the current universe version of him is buried out back.

>>88680375
easier to animate. Just look at all the new character designs and how simple they are

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>>88682240
>SG1
>giving fucks about anything as time went on
Once Jackson had died enough O'Neill just started treating it like comic book deaths.

And that's not even counting when he was murdering him for fun.

>>88682185
I'm sorry, where do we build and test our weapons labs on this planet?

Option A: NY, NY
Option B: Boon Hill Sands, Idaho at end of a long ass narrow road to nowhere

>>88681817
Nobody was replaced in that episode though

>>88680051
Nobody fucking likes Fairy Tail anyway

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>>88682721
>that entire episode
I also unironically shipped Neil x Carter

>>88682747
>weapons
it's a time machine

>>88682721
This is still the best scifi show to ever be on TV
Fuck star trek.
Fuck the clone wars.
Nothing comes close to how spectacularly campy this show is.

>>88680313
More like SUEpr Trunks, they were pretty blatant to shilling out to his fanbase in bringing him back for this bullshit

>>88680130
Not /co/ but this happened in Stargate Atlantis with a cool version of Rodney called "Rod"

>>88680430
>reverting back to the status quo is par for the course
But it's not actually the status quo, if you've replaced someone with someone who is very very similar to them

Like if you were cloned and the clone got all your memories up until now, it'd be the same person as you. But he's not you, and do you think your friends wouldn't mind you being replaced?

>>88682240
To be fair, in most cases in SG1 and SGA the AU's were slightly or secretly evil. Not that that really excuses it

>>88680255
Add
>implying it was in original alternate universe
>implying every each episode took place in different alternative universe
>at some point the universes converge at some point
>previously dead tertiary characters emerge from alternate universes and save primary characters.

Can`t wait for third season.

>Planet destroying entity finds Earth
>our heroes / species triumphantly wins, but somehow all the other planets had no chance

>Time Travel episode.
>Original version of character dies/is erased from time.
>The rest of the series follows their time travel duplicate

>>88680036
Their motives are too complex for you OP

>>88680036
>The bad guy is the future version of the good guy
Meh it's cool when it works but also impossible

>Alternate universe/timeline
>A bad guy is a good guy and vice versa

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>>88685401

>>88683346
trunks wasn't a Mary sue in super. if he was then he wouldn't have even needed goku and vegeta's help from the start

>>88682721

This fucking episode.

Teal'c makes it. Teal'c makes it so fucking hard. If it had just been Jack doing goofy stuff it would have been good, but Teal'c going along with it all because he's just as pissed off over the looping is just gold.

>the main character makes themselves a temporal bastard that shouldnt exist then continues existing like they didnt just fuck up reality
>bonus points if they made it so they jump to a parallel dimension and kill the non displaced version of themselves.

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>>88680036
Not /co/ related, but yea.

>>88685401
When nationalism and racism become taboo, people with self esteem issues who are too unskilled, lazy or "respectful" to form an identity through some other activity in order to feed their egos and feel superior to people who don't belong to the group they feel identified with, they choose simply masturbate to the only thing they've been told they have since being born, that no one can take from them no matter what they do and that no one can feel unidentified with or offended by (or so we are told); being human.
As if that was worth anything by itself.

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>>88680036
>Alternative universe story
>Character's AU is made of antimatter
>Nothing blows up
WHATS THE FUCKING POINT!
It's like like having a strong magnet in your hand but it attracts nothing.

>>88680036
To be fair, the human mind can only sympathize with so many creatures at a time.


>>88686445
Yes yes we get it /pol/. blah blah something something modernism waaaah feminism , now go back to your containment board.

>>88680130
>Go back in time to get people to help save your timeline from a new threat
>They end up destroying your entire timeline

Great job.

>>88686445
You say that like nationalism and racism are healthy things.

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>>88688380
>/pol/.
Buzzwording much, eh?

>>88688580
Eh, no, read again.
The HFY sentiment makes up completely imaginary beings to make oneself feel superior to without putting any effort in being remarkable or useful at anything in particular, nationalism, racism is exactly the same thing only that now is frowned upon by society. It's all just elitism, except that the general case can be justifiable sometimes, such as a violinist feeling disdain towards a violist because the latter is objectively a less demanding career (although still necessary).

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>Encounter your past selves
>They intend to overtake your body and place in realty
>You'll never know the difference
>"Go get your your own timeline."
Our Star is dead and gone. One of countless past duplicates that dogpiled her took her place.
No one really even noticed.

>>88686445
>When nationalism and racism
>they choose simply masturbate to the only thing they've been told they have since being born, that no one can take from them no matter what they do
Are you this dense?
You'd have to be a thick thick fucker not to see this whole contradiction in a single post.

>>88689118
OK, maybe I worded things a bit awkwardly, but you'd have to be pretty stupid or paranoid, looking for an internet fight to actually come to that conclusion.

>>88680036
It's why I enjoyed the Infinite Crisis storyline so much since you kinda feel for the villains because they are surviving characters from universes that got destroyed back in COIE and feel a very similar frustration that everyone's showing in this topic

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>>88680036
>Alternate universe story
>A boy falls in love with a girl
>He contacts the AU version of his crush

>>88689215
Sorry, I guess this whole board being a big dickwhip contest the past several months has whipped me up a little.

I get what you're saying and it's probably not as political as what I read into it. People do take from their identities and worth what they can get, but it's not like they know otherwise.

>>88689265
Are you still bent out of shape about good old Flash Sentry? He never really even appeared again.

>>88680285
Phineas and Ferb. Alt Candace is a total badass.

>>88682747
I thought it was under the ocean

>>88682537
I didn't write those sentences very well, I said Rick and Mortey doing it DIDN'T bother me, probably because they acknowledged it. I was saying shows that shrugged it off were the ones that bothered me more.

>>88682962
I used to like it, but i stopped watching it years ago. Got right up to the point where they had the 7 year time skip and i dropped that shit immediately. Fuck that garbage was awful. I don't think i've ever seen anything jump the shark as fast and as idiotically as they did.

>>88689292
>People do take from their identities and worth what they can get
Well yeah, but at least in these cases you have something real to measure yourself with, even if subjective. Even your nationality comes as consequence of someone's actions and has repercussions on your self, being human doesn't, it's the laziest trick in fiction; sometimes they don't even justify why humans are better than anything else, at least some religions say that humans are the sons of gods or can achieve some sort of divinity, but in fiction we sometimes give ourselves attributes that some may even find unremarkable, undesirable or simply unreal.
Do you know the STALKER series? they are based on a russian novel called "Roadside Picnic" which I love because it incidentally exposes everything wrong with this type of fiction as done it the west by doing the complete opposite; resulting in a story about humans being humans, instead of one of humans or deus ex machinas being awesome, or aliens being cool/evil/human/etc.

>>88689750
I think with both nationality and humanity it depends on what the author is trying to say about it and how relevant it is to the characters. Like obviously it's stupid to make this big stake in national pride if the character isn't very patriotic nor represents any values or achievements. With humanity it's impossible to generalize what measures a man because man is the only measure of himself. We have no one and nothing else, and we know even if a fictional work tries to introduce otherwise it's still fiction written by man and man's perspective ultimately.

Take Mereum from HxH and his gripe against Netero. Togashi tries to make this big stake in the will of Humanity and how even against brutal genocidal ants they'll always outpace and out-evolve these powerful bestial creatures.
But this fails for multiple reasons. On a thematic level none of the characters are very human, they all act like stilted near-autistic calculating fighting machines with very little humanity or such, which doesn't differentiate the ants. And secondly, the King DID survive the shitty dirty bomb anyway rendering Netero's speech worthless. Considering the King seemed confident he'd survived and could now outlive any number of those bombs (Sans the radiation poisoning), the unlimited evolution and will of Humanity failed.

In fact it's so subversive, a lot of people take away from the arc that he humans were basically little more than petty insects and the ants, which were becoming more human the actual "Humanity" of the story. It's a way of saying humanity isn't tied to your genes or species but transcends it entirely and signifies whatever "Humanity" is.

The humans act like inhuman survival-oriented cranks and the ants act like humans. That makes the Ants actually human, and makes being literally 'human' count for shit.

>>88685875
Just like nearly everything else in this thread.

>>88685490
I love that trope. It's a little rare, though.

>>88683615
What's this?

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>>88680036
>person from the future goes back in time who looks like the main character but isn't

>>88689265
did /a/ meme this anime into reality or was this the creator just hinting at us.

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>guys kills all 348 other versions of the 360 of him that exist
>final fight to become The One with the last version of himself
>second to last version of himself has been getting just as strong the whole time
>they fight on a Chinese wushu temple to fast paced electronic music
>movie ends zoomed in on one of their grinning faces
>but which one of the two won?

>Main universe has a superheroes that fight the bad guys
>Alternate universe has on of the superheroes as an unstoppable tyrant
>AU tyrant comes to MU
>Good guys and bad guys team up to stop him
>It fails

>>88690643
>That makes the Ants actually human, and makes being literally 'human' count for shit.
Now you see that, we are calling ants the humans of the story now, because our humans don't act like we like to think humans are supposed to act, so we dehumanize them, and we call the ants new patterns of behavior -that the story counts as positive- human-like. But I get that's not the point of the story, though, it strays from mine; and I know, we need works of fiction that impulse morals and values that we deem necessary for positive communing (so does a country or any group with it's people locally) and humanity needs to love itself despite what it is... but not for what some want all of it to believe it is, yet isn't; or by exaggerating what we are or change the reasons to why we do some things (I'm sure you have seen that "humans are scary" -which spends half of it's space accounting for actions that nearly all lifeforms on this planet can achieve and calling them dangerous or amazing- picture at least once, or that tumblr post about an hypothetical dialogue between a flabbergasted species of aliens and humans retelling rather meagerly some comparatively unremarkable historical events) to feel like a super special snowflake of a species.
Why not talk and feel proud for what we have achieved that is actually worth mentioning and for what they are worth, regardless of what a super advanced star-faring civilization that may or may not exist, or a termite colony could think about it?

>>88689092
probably the wrong thread to ask this, but isn't the current Star basically our Star? It isn't some alternate dimension version of Star, it's the exact same person. I don't see why people get so riled up about this.

>>88680036
>time travel story
>character goes back in time and tries to fix things
>ends up causing all of the bad shit that happened
>figures trying to change the timeline is pointless and gives up
RvB is the only thing I know of that did this

>>88694308
Fallout 2 had a tongue-in-cheek random event where you're sent back in time and break Vault 13's water chip, setting up the beginning of the first game.

>>88694099
Her mind or soul has been replaced by an alternative timeline past Star or something.
In the episode "Into the Wand" her duplicates chase her, glob over her and only one wakes up as Star.

But it's basically the same Star, even she doesn't realize the difference. Same person pretty much. Yeah, she's basically our Star.

>>88693698
I'm sorry this was an absolute headache to read.
tl;dr?

>>88686445
>Most advanced form of life on Earth because sentience
>Life itself is insanely rare in the universe, never mind sentient life

By sheer virtue of scarcity human life is valuable. Fuck off with your entry level nihilism.

>>88694308
Fairly Odd Parents sets this up in the worst possible way.

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>it's a Bizarro universe episode
>it's a R63 universe episode

>>88694544
That was pretty funny.

And it's still not as a asinine as the Fallout 4 "twist".

>>88694918
>Life itself is insanely rare in the universe, never mind sentient life
There's still a lot of the universe to explore, we can't say for certain that it's rare.

>>88680436
Too be fair, Naomi was another that got replaced too.

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>>88683405
>Like if you were cloned and the clone got all your memories up until now, it'd be the same person as you. But he's not you, and do you think your friends wouldn't mind you being replaced?

>>88689265
>616 Peter Parker gets sent to Ultimate universe
>Meets Miles
>Goes back to 616
>Looks up Miles online
>Says "Whoa" or something
>Universe-mashing shenanigans ensue before we find out what he was reacting to

>>88680430
Technically he defeated them twice.

>>88680036
Well it is okay.

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>>88681817
But he wasn't replaced. he was just warned

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>>88680558
That was an O'Brien from the future, not a different universe.
>>88689308
Yes he does. I'm more concerned with Ponks trading places with AU self just whenever.

>>88694872
You said the ant were acting human meaning the humans of this story are not humans; because the ants were the ones acting like we think humans are supposed to act, which is total bullshit.

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>good/evil swap in alternate universe
>the major villain in "our" universe makes a pretty fucking badass hero
>it is never touched upon again because casuals like the villain too much

Man fuck this show was too good for this world.

>>88680051
That's Old Man Logan right now.

>>88685650
He doesn't need their help now Trunks got so many power boosts in that arc that he might as well be stronger than Goku and Vegeta.

>>88680051
Telltale Sam and Max did something like that

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>>88692412
I watch those movies for the kung fu, not the plot

>>88681847
Not him but the comics been dead to me for two or three years now. The ending would just be a spit on its grave. Midnight crew is the only thing truly of high quality from that mess of a comic.

>>88695031
>going back in time to break a water source to set up the first game
>not as stupid/silly as being refrozen for longer than you assumed you were
Now anon...might have to agree to disagree there

>>88695150
I-is that Yoshikage Kira's girlfriend?
Post more

>>88695437
The original Steven no longer exists, the current Steven is a past timeline version. I personally found that episode to be garbage.

>>88692188
>person from the future goes back in time to kill a guy who made the weapon that caused the human holocaust, but tries to kill him after the weapon has been built, and ends up getting killed by people from other periods of time and no one talks about him ever again

>>88692059
>What's this?
Sounds like Space Dandy.

>>88681309
don't forget
>roxy doomed the alpha roxy for no reason
>they could easily revive alpha roxy but choose not to
>there's two nannasprites so obviously having two of someone isn't an issue

>>88692412
Did the one really ends like this or is this other movie with a similar concept?

>>88680036
Am I the only one who remembers that episode where it was the future and girls were going around turning boys into girls? That episode did weird things to my dick as kid

>>88692059
Just fanwankery about 3d season of Rick & Morty

>>88700575
We had a fetish thread about that episode just a few days ago.

>>88700095
>The original Steven no longer exists, the current Steven is a past timeline version.
Who's to say that Steven was the 'original' Steven? If anything, the Steven at the end that didn't disappear is technically the original since he's from further in the past and the one that started all the conflict was just another alternate timeline.

>>88692188
what show?

>>88681871

But those characters didn't get the shaft like kim did.

>>88682962
Who again?

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>>88680036
>discover you are a universal constant and every dimension has a version of you
>you want to become a truly unique being
>travel multiple dimensions and universe and absorb every version of yourself you come across in your quest to become the ultimate being
>you are Elvis Presley
>also, alternate universe versions of the three astronauts from the Apollo 13 mission have become thralls for inter-dimensional space squids
I love Wormwood Gentleman Corpse

>>88701077
And poor Harry somehow never got a promotion. Tom got demoted to ensign and then re-promoted to lieutenant before Harry, and over on DS9 Nog started the show illiterate and went on to attend and graduate Starfleet Academy and gets promoted in the finale.

>>88695212
He probably found out his Miles was a porn actor and was admiring his huge dick.

>>88680130
>travel back in time to ask for help
>get help and still couldn't beat villain
>call the highest god for help
>he destroys your entire timeline
>now spend in an alternate universe where there are two of you
Really despairing.

>>88688443
I thought future Trunks from that timeline went back to his timeline and defeated Cell.

>>88701880
he did

Future Trunks' timeline got merced again in Super though

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>>88699563
and he still failed and got his universe destroyed

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>>88680036
>Alternate universe story
>plot is way more interesting and on a whole seems like it could have massive bits of lore
>"Let's do nothing with this universe ever again"
I just want Mad Max: The animated series dammit

>>88694308
Gravity Falls did that