>tail end of 2016 >animated movies are still mostly CGI

It's too late in 2016. The only movies left are Ballerina in the UK and Snow Queen 3 on the 29th.

Pets was pretty creative senpai, but I gotta agree- this just doesn't capture me.

Kids don't only want to be moved by something mostly goofy- kids want something really cool sometimes. Like 9, for example.

>tfw no cg prodigy like miyazaki in traditional animation
>there will only ever be goofy big eyed jokesters

>>88607974
>>tfw no cg prodigy like miyazaki in traditional animation
Do you think any actual western studio would be willing ever to let one guy have full control over any movie?
This is why there won't ever be a CG prodigy movie, the industry is filled with a bunch of hacks.

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>animated movies are still mostly CGI animals doing things animals don't normally do
>>88607892
There's only one CGI animated film comprising of an animal cast, and thats SING.

Also, I watched Sing, good film, all character arcs are juggled perfectly. it managed to have a concise and clear story overall. Def would recommend.

>Why must my favorite medium suffer so much?

because you have your head up your ass thinking that every piece of animation has to be a masterpiece. It's ok to let people have fun dude. Sing isn't for you, no biggie, wait for the next Miyazaki or Pixar film.

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this year started with shit and ended with meh.

>>88609236
Pretty sure this year was shit from start to finish.

Not that it's getting any better.

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>>88609279

I'll fight you.

>>88609330
That movie was garbage.
At least post your name.

>>88609330
I wasn't talking about cartoons.

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>>88609236
a glorious trainwreck

>>88609330
How was Finding Dory? Zootopia was good but I haven't seen that one yet

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>>88609236
It literally ended with Meh.

>>88609330
Using your dumb, shit waifu is not a convincing argument.

>>88607892
>GA GA OH LA LA
>ROMA, RO MA MA
How is this a popular song? It's just gibberish syllables

>>88607892
Because you didn't see Kubo, jackass.

>>88609512
Kubo was shit. The only good part was the animation.

>>88609498
Because most of the song isn't nonsense lyrics and also songs aren't just lyrics

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>>88607892
>animated movies are still mostly CGI animals doing things animals don't normally do

You know the alternative is toys, cars and other inanimate objects. That was the entire joke of Sausage Party.

And to be honest I would prefer animals. I have a hard time caring about how my fucking car feels.

>>88609649
Humans would be way better desu

>>88609430
Not that anon but Finding Dory was pretty good.

>>88607892

The dual forces of the Animation Age Ghetto phenomenon and the idea of "adult animation is always like 'Family Guy' or 'South Park'" will keep animation from ever growing beyond what that medium is used for in the broader range of Western pop culture.

>>88609451
Sony doesn't even know what "meh" means.

It means indifference/apathy, not bored/having no enthusiasm.

A character whose only way of responding to things is not caring could have been funny but they fucked that up.

>>88609430
It was exactly the same as finding nemo with just a better look. A good distraction, but the time spent making this movie could've gone to making a new ip.

>>88609649
>That was the entire joke of Sausage Party.

Sausage Party would have been amazing as a five minute short that mainly plays out the way the first trailer did. Instead they extended the gag to 90 minutes.

>>88608000
Basically. These films are so high budget and tight with producers that an artist would never be able to create a film in his/her individual vision.

>>88608066
>There's only one CGI animated film comprising of an animal cast, and thats SING.

https://youtu.be/DSmtE-vCnuw

>>88609451
Is the entire movie going to be in that tiny aspect ratio?

That'd be pretty impressive if they went through with that.

>>88609649

>cars

The entire theme of cars was to be extremely flexible and creative in the world of how cars and vehicles do things

Which Cars 2 nailed but people are shitposting it to death because ITS NOT MUH INCREDIBLES OR HAVE MUH FEELS

2016 seems like a pretty good year for animation. shit like Sing and Trolls aside.

hell Kubo, Zootopia, Moana all fantastic

>>88609928
it may have nailed it, but that doesn't really make it much of a good movie

>>88609649
>You know the alternative is toys, cars and other inanimate objects
Tons of CGI movies are about people

The Incredibles, Paranorman, Big Hero 6, Ratatouille off the top of my head

>>88609949
>Paranorman
That's stop-motion animation

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>>88609330
No need for fighting

>>88609928
The complaint for 2 is that it was shittier than the first and we can thank that for it being the Mator secret spy happy hour.

>>88609430
Dory has great theme of overcoming serious mental issues and what family really is, but muddles it with over the top death defying leaps and bounds that shatters all suspension of disbelief by the end of the movie. If you are looking for any kind of stakes you are looking in the wrong place.

>>88607892
Saw this a couple hours ago.

Why all the hate? I had fun throughout the whole damn thing and it even got a couple more chuckles out of me then zootopia

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>>88609669
>Humans would be way better desu

Except you sometimes have possibilities with animals that you don't have with humans, or at least it's easier to achieve more 'neat' scenarios if you try. Zootopia was less animal-inserts and more an entire fantasy world based around that these creatures were. That was entertaining in of itself. But I'll at least give you that only Zootopia has even tried to tap into this.
It's sad to see newer movies, like Sing, fall back to the typical boring anthro setting of just simple animal-inserts.

>>88609985
Moana then.

>>88607892
>animals doing things animals don't normally do
That trope's ancient. like dawn of mankind ancient

>>88610060
What I love about using anthros is that you can cast human types without getting into political / social statements. Paradoxically it's the only way to have absolute freedom with representation.

>>88610040
The movie looks super generic

>>88610060
>That feel when zoologist major
I really can't enjoy the world building aspect of Zootopia. It breaks down the moment you put an iota of thought into it. At least with other talking animal movies you can just tap out and take it at face value.

>>88607892
>what keeps on selling keeps on getting made

Stop the fucking presses

>>88610040
>>88610143
It looks like a background movie playing inside a daycare scene of a live-action TV drama.

>>88609330
You're doing disservice to the series you enjoy so much, you know that right?

>>88610040
It's the generic dancing characters at the end of the movie thing except it's the whole movie. Every board just likes to complain than to praise. A movie that's slightly bad will get better mileage here than a slightly good one. You can see it by just posting shows that are 6-7/10 that don't have waifus in it. El Tigre is an example that comes to mind.

>>88607892
it's mostly because it's hard to animate people and have critics not complain about uncanny valley shit.

It's the reason anna and elsa hardly had any expression in their faces or the reason for the invention of the "dreamworks face"
it's one of the few extreme facial expressions that they can make without tearing the mesh on the models.

so you get mostly either mostly static faced humans or non-humans/animals who can make a greater range of facial expressions without looking freakish.

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>tfw all 3D animation movies currently are just bog standard Pixar/DreamWorks lookalikes in terms of art style
>tfw no alternative artstyle CG movies, nothing like Killer is Dead, Wind Waker, Okami, Guilty Gear Xrd or even something like Delta State

>>88610377
Vidya takes all the good animators. I'd rather it this way than the other way around.

>>88610377
The closest thing you've got is the resident evil and final fantasy cgi movies.

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This movie doesn't even look that good but the protag is too cute

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>>88609341

why would i do that?

>>88610377

>rango was 5 years ago.

>>88610377
look to hasbro's upcoming line-up and french and russian animated movies for that.

Apparently were going to get a tidal wave of animated movies from Hasbro brands.

>>88610438

wow, Angus is tiny.

>>88607949
>Snow Queen 3
What?

>>88610568

some russian knockoff. it's currently in Poland.

walmart bin tier.

>>88609985
>Paranorman
>The officially licensed Paranorman Nikes cost $5,000

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It's a bit better than
>CGI Humans doing things humans don't normally do

>>88610060
You act like there aren't any possibilities that you can't do with humans. The problem is the west is absolute shit at storytelling so you never really get to see it show.
Anime has proved countless times that you can make a wonderful story with human stories that is down to Earth and creative.

>>88610688
I feel like Zombie Tarkin would've been a better example

>>88610702
>The problem is the west is absolute shit at storytelling
found the weeb

>>88610787
It's true though.
That's why children's animated films will forever remain the norm in America. They don't care about realistic characters, just stuff they think is cute and stuff you can turn your brain off to.

>>88610537
And Rango looked fantastic. Tintin did too. So why are exceptions to the standard so uncommon when said exceptions typically receive so much praise.

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This whole year was loaded with furry films

>>88610841

Disney buys everyone and we're left with samey products now.

>>88610377
Did...Did Killer is Dead have some sort of companion novella or something to explain its plot?

It feels like a sequel to a game that was never made in a fully realized world that the player never gets to see.

Threadly reminder that non-mainstream animated movies exist and those are the ones youre the target audience for.

>>88607892
This will make more money than Kubo and the Two Strings

>>88610872
Were all of these actually released this year?

>>88610962
It's not so much "why don't movies like this exist" as it is "why are mainstream animated movies dogshit while actual artistry goes overlooked/unmade?"

>>88611009
Spark, Rock Dog and a few others are slated for 2017

>>88609498
literally every pop song
it's about rhythm and noise, only nerds bother to actually learn the lyrics of any song.

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>>88610872
that's not even all of them, and a couple of those come out next year

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>>88607892
Because the fur faggots won.

>>88611014
Because target audiences. Kids don't give a shit about the Isreal-Lebanon war or the Iranian revolution, they like talking animals doing wacky shit.

>>88611338
We should stop trying to appeal to the mass audience then.

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Would you?

>>88609330
DUDE MUH RABBIT WAIFU MADE UP FOR A BORING PREDICTABLE ANIMATED FILM LMAO

>>88611338
>all animation should be for kids

Holy shit you are part of the problem.

>>88611355
>>I'm sorry James, but it seems that your projects have failed to reach a wide enough audience at home and have tanked overseas. The board has no choice but to request your resignation. By tomorrow.
>>Say hi to Linda for me, won't you?

Does anyone have a download for this thing?

Don't worry anon, you still have cape movies.

>>88611467
Better to go down with movies with actual meaning than with brain dead fodder.

>>88609330
Preachy diversity message that dosent work in the ANIMAL world with completely different speciels and subspecies of herbavores, omivores, carnivores and etc.

Humans are relatively all the same save for cosmetics of pelt, I mean skin color and tribal/cultural stereotypes of behavior and racism is largely an artificial social construct.

A fox and a rabbit are different and dosen't translate to human racism.

>>88611516
Say that to James who can't pay his bills now, or after Linda left him for being unable to support her or their children.

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>>88611576
But James knew exactly what he was getting himself into, and being an auteur comes with its risks. He did what he always wanted, even if it left him in rubbles.

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>>88610568
https://youtu.be/nQ7ZjVjGG4k

The troll is the guy from District 9 with a noseplug.

>>88611730
Then James should know that unless he starts his own studio then he's going to be beholden to a boss or council of bosses. Bosses that want money and results. Big companies churn out animals doing not-animal shit because it makes money from parents who use tv and movies to babysit their children. And if James didn't understand that then he deserved to be fired.

Also, sauce? Or any other medieval/fantasy type animated movies?

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>>88610438
https://youtu.be/UVwFM2PukSE

Tail End? Stop Fur.

>>88611355
Plenty of people (Knight, Folman, Chomet, Satrapi, Sfarr, ...) don't, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.

>>88611460
Nobody claimed that. And stop this "u da problem" bullshit, you faggot. And learn to follow a reply chain.

>>88607974
Pets was fucking boring shit, just like every other corporate shell that Illumination's ever made.

>>88611821
>Feburary
Well, at least it won't be hot garabge

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>>88610702
>Anime has proved countless times that you can make a wonderful story
>anime
>good writing

>>88611735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIhH22ykf9w

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>>88611802
It's hashire melos.

>>88609741
>It means indifference/apathy, not bored/having no enthusiasm.

I thought it was both.

>>88610438
Bodhi a cute. Would rob a bank with.

What I want to know is why I only see ads for this movie on MSNBC.

What, is the target demo divorced parents that want something brainless to take their kid to on the weekend they get them?

>>88610438
why is angus so tiny

>>88612171
Both NBCUniversal (Comcast), same reason you only see DC products in Bazoopers.

>>88612193
He is what the weebs call "smol"

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>>88607974
>tfw no cg prodigy like miyazaki in traditional animation
>miyazaki

God no. I would rather have goofy big eyed mindless fun rather than bland insipid bullcrap full of the worst types of saturday morning cartoon characters attempting to be """deep""" by spouting off high school-tier pseudophilospohical bullcrap.

>>88609899
i see you subscribe to the hydian school of cinematography

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>>88610060
I still hold the opinion that Zootopia should have simply stuck with the 'anthropomorphism as characterization', a la Blacksad, instead of that clusterfuck mess of themes.

Not to mention, Zootopia was so heavy-handed at times with the whole 'racism' theme that it actually got offensive.

Not to get /pol/, but everybody is fucking racist, and it's all a matter of fucking self-control and acknowledging and accepting differences. The joke should have been that there WAS speciesism in an otherwise Utopian society.

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>>88608000
>>88609839
>These films are so high budget and tight with producers that an artist would never be able to create a film in his/her individual vision.
Sometimes, it's mostly for VERY good reasons...

>>88613756

George Lucas' creative vision is better than what a committee of Disney execs could think up.

>>88609393
Clearly a terrible rip off of Colin's Bear Animation.

>>88613756
>implying
Without George Lucas, the first 6 films would not have been as good as they were creatively.

TFA suffered from a lack of creativity.

Rogue One wasn't afraid to be a little creative and was better for it.

>>88609649
How did /co/ feel about Toy Story 3? I'm a newfag and wasn't lurking here back then.

>>88607892
frozen two will put all of this to shame op
it still sucks tho, im not sure if its even an improvement at all

>>88611573
>hurr durr social constructs
stop using this argument. dont know if you noticed but different races aren't created from people throwing coats of black or white paint on one another

>>88609792
'sup Jay

>>88609949
How could you not forget up from this list?

>>88609949
>Big Hero 6

Anon, please. Weeaboos aren't people.

>>88613790
Nah, Disney might produce the McDonalds of entertainment but episodes I-III were actually terrible instead of just bland shit.

>>88607974
>pets
>creative
are you for real anon

>>88611573
Which is why it works thematically instead of being so topical that it will be dated in two years.

>>88610816
>They don't care about realistic characters
That's because most of us are aware that animation barely needs them anyways, or at least have small little hints of it that are only used sparingly. If we wanted "realistic" characters in fiction, we would write novels or live-action movies instead, which those nips that do animoos or mangos that barely used much of the medium's advantages should've done in the first place.

>>88612317
>weebs
You mean Tumblr. Weeaboos, and /a/ especially, don't tend to use that word. I would know, i regularly hang out with weeaboos.

>>88610377
>currently

>>88614144
There is literally no reason animation shouldn't be realistic.
There is literally no reason novels or live-action films should be.

I really liked this movie. I dunno, I like how every character got their own story line (although I admit that's why the movie felt so long) and at the big climax everyone gets a good ending.
Animation was amazing. I liked how the two pigs didn't end up being together just cause they were the fat ones. Mama pig was married to another pig and German Pig was just there to dance.

And say what you want about Seth McFarlen, but God damn does that guy have pipes. His final song cover of My Way is kinda amazing.

>>88613733
>Not to get /pol/, but everybody is fucking racist, and it's all a matter of fucking self-control and acknowledging and accepting differences.
That was literally the express message.

>>88608066
This. Just watched it today thinking that it was going to be a another "illumination movie". But it was great. The trailer was a huge turn off for me.

>>88611009
Not sly cooper

>>88607892
>bitching about furry stuff in the animation industry

Are you retarded anon?
That is like complaining about fish in the ocean.

>>88609942
Sing and Trolls weren't even bad movies. They were mediocre, but hardly bad movies.

>>88610157
What keeps on getting made
Are just what keeps on selling
Still my guitar gently weeps

>>88611475
No, but the script is available.

>>88614974
>What keeps on getting made
>Are just what keeps on selling
Then explain Moana

>>88614126
This, the reason why it works is because it's not 1:1, it tackles the same idea with a different setting.

>>88613877
Most of /co/ loved it.

I thought it was phoned in and warmed over shit.

>>88607974
>Pets was pretty creative

Watch Toy Story. It was that but not nearly as good.

>>88613733
>Not to mention, Zootopia was so heavy-handed at times with the whole 'racism' theme that it actually got offensive.
>it actually got offensive.
And by that you mean it was annoying right?

2016 was just bad for animations as a whole. Zootopia was okay but the last third fell hard on it's face, Kubo was all style no substance and Moana was actually pretty good if a bit formulaic.

>>88610872
I don't even care if half these films suck, the porn produced is worth it

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>>88616301

what was wrong with the last third?

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>>88607892
Are Ren and Stimpy sexy in furries opinions?

>>88613733
>I still hold the opinion that Zootopia should have simply stuck with the 'anthropomorphism as characterization', a la Blacksad, instead of that clusterfuck mess of themes.

So let me get this straight, what you are really saying is:
>Zootopia should have been an 'insert typical story here' movie, but just with animals instead of people

We had a movie like that in 2016, it was called Sing and no one likes it because that trope is boring as shit now and also why furries are generally dumb and uninteresting.

>Not to mention, Zootopia was so heavy-handed at times with the whole 'racism' theme that it actually got offensive.

I agree, but I wouldn't have minded it if they actually went in an interesting direction and did something neat with it, like the original script that was "too sad" for the higher ups. But nope, they played it safe and went the predictable, safe route.

>>88609839
Wes Anderson exists, for what it's worth.

He's not Miyazaki but he's making animated films with pretty much full creative control.

>>88609649
>I have a hard time caring about how my fucking car feels.

Kids love it though. Vehicles with human faces are very popular with boys.

>>88619323

>too sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqlaPttudUc


it was fucking offensive, not "sad".

Will 2017 be better or will sequels and the Emoji movie ruin it all?

>>88619456
What the fuck? Why'd the balloons zap him

>>88611821
What's with all the fucking Chinese encroachment in movies these days?

>>88619747

not the balloons, it's the collar, zapped him because he dared to have "emotions".

and here's another brillian scene from the early script:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHURiOqMVTI

oh, and another

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzH9GJgoHY

>>88619456
>it was fucking offensive, not "sad".

How was this offensive? Is it offensive to dogs being trained with shock collars or something?

>>88610872
Angry birds had no right being as good as it was.

>>88619889

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_badge


educate yourself, please.

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>favorite medium is animation
>disappointed that it's mostly kid's movies and comedies

Look, I like cartoons, too, and that's okay, but you're going to have to accept that it's never going to be widely accepted as a medium that can be used to convey any kind of serious storytelling. This is obvious by now if you only look at American animation, but even in other countries, "serious" animation is frequently the exception, not the rule, and likely always will be.

This isn't to say you won't occasionally see an outlier, but for the most part, it just doesn't happen. You call it "suffering", but it isn't, really- it's just you wanting the animation industry to be something that it isn't. You're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

If you want more depth out of your films, you're going to have to leave animation behind, because you simply won't ever get it there.

>>88619456

It's more hilariously melodramatic than either sad or offensive.

>>88619939
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_badge

The fuck does this have to do with the collars? Yeah they are both marks of shame, but the collars actually have a function; they aren't just symbolic racist nonsense. This isn't about one "race" thinking they are superior to another, this is about another species capable of eating the others alive. If I had to live right next door to lion people, I'd hope to god there was some kind of safety measure in place. That's why the collar idea was a good one, even if it was sad for the predators.

>>88619953

kino, as one would say.

>>88619977

the allegory was too clear, so predators are jews/niggers/muslims etc.

leftist dream movie that points out "racism is baaad!" it's all white's fault!

>>88609741
The very definition of apathy is a lack of enthusiasm, google it.

>>88610377
We had Tron Uprising for one glorious season and the fuckers at Disney cancelled it. Seriously, I'm a traditionally animated fan at heart but that show managed to utilize 3D animation like no other.

>>88607892
2017 has the MLP movie which is a 2D movie with animals who are more animal-like. If it gets successfull, it might cause the trend to change

>>88610816
>They don't care about realistic characters, just stuff they think is cute and stuff you can turn your brain off to.
This sounds like /a/ in a nutshell.

>>88619899
I hope you pirated it. please don't fund cancer.

>>88619977
>but the collars actually have a function; they aren't just symbolic racist nonsense.

This is delusion. The collar's purpose was solely to make the racism metaphor as explicit as possible. The function made no sense. This is most noticeable in how it targets and suppresses all emotions, including positive.

How do you feel that the mlp film may be the only good animated film next year

>>88620025
True
Although they do less horse things then they used to
>the mlp film saves animation
How mad would this make people

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Sometimes you have to suffer through garbage to find the great

>tfw you will never have a friend like judy

>>88619977
> this is about another species capable of eating the others alive. If I had to live right next door to lion people, I'd hope to god there was some kind of safety measure in place
I hope this guy never finds out that his neighbors can have things like "guns" and "knives".
How can one ever live peacefully when people nearby are capable of easily murdering you?

>>88609949
>Ratatouille
Come on man. It's in the name.

>>88620086
>This thing is bad
>Yeah well this thing is also bad!!!!
Not an argument.

>>88620177

if they could breed would it make an eevee?

>>88620171

>saves 2d animation

FTFY

that would be a sign of well needed change, i'd welcome it with open arms.

>>88620140
>>88620179

exactly, alienating the audience is not something disney would want to, and yet they thought it would work. besides, why were the collars invented in the first place, why predators didnt leave the moment they heard about collars.

it was a bad idea from the start.

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>>88620238
Good question

>>88620279

not possible.

>>88620231
It is though.
this post >>88610702 claims that eastern is better because it isn't saturated with vapid cutesy nonsense which is a lie.
and >>88610816 argues in favor of it.
I simply pointed out this fallacy.
>claiming my thing is bad too isn't an argument.
(you) apparently

>>88620319
Boxes or funnies?

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are fate is endless star wars and CGI animal moves till we die

>>88609236
>>88609393
I remember when this piece of shit was about to come out the producers were so convinced that it was going to be a Disney level box office success that they were already working on two sequels and a tv series.

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>>88610377
>tfw weta's half CGI half live action miniatures Thunderbirds is damn good, is partway through a 26 episode second season and has another season in production

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If you actually enjoy CG, please kill yourself.

>>88620359

Somehow I don't enjoy Zootopia anymore, the reveal broke all the movie magic.Anyone else feel similarly?

Plus it turns /co/ into /pol/, gross.

>>88609236
This film looks fun from the poster what was wrong with it

>>88609579
It as great the only bad part was the ending and not enough focus on the sisters

>>88612032
>Anime is a single story meme

>>88619984
>"racism is baaad!" it's all white's fault!
You didn't watch the movie.

>>88615473
With every mistake
We must surely be learning
Still my guitar gently weeps

>>88621212

This was the message of the original story, actual movie's message is "everyone's a bit racist( or prejudiced) lets get along despite that".

>>88609236
saw this twice

its not as bad as the ghostbusters movie.

>>88615553
Most people would think you were phoned in and warmed shit too.

>>88610947
>Moon do crazy stuff
There you go, anything Suda related in a nutshell

>>88621156
The writing; the animation, the humor; the twerking; the acting; the producer's (lack of) sanity; the lemmings...

Pretty much everything.

>>88620025
what makes you think it won't be cgi

>>88618827
No.

>>88622087
You're no furry.

>>88620279
Did the artist forget they were driving?

>>88610872
what's the bottom middle?

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>>88622176
I-I'm sorry my lord.

>>88613854
>Episodes 1-3 were good
Stop the lies. Just fucking stop, they're terrible.

>>88607892
If I see those twerking bunnies one more motherfucking time, I swear I'm going to burn Illumination Studios to the ground.

>>88622706
Ow that edge.

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>>88622706
These ones?

>>88622682
>>88613854

Star Wars is banking on nostalgia.Disney bought Lucasfilm only to milk the shit out of it. I'd rather have another preachy furry movie than more adventures of Ma-rey Sue.

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>>88616301

Kubo was fine, it just focused more on the thematic elements than it did it's narrative. Even then though, the plot was only serviceable at worst. The movie has it's flaws, but to say there's zero substance there is a bit unfair. They created a great little world with an interesting mythology, and explored a few complex and emotional themes along the way.