>Mr Incredible threat rating 9.1 >Elastigirl threat rating

>>88571446
The kids don't have a threat rating, but I argue that Dash and Violet are slightly stronger than Helen. Still, none of those three would be able to take on the Omnidroid 08 alone. Hell, I doubt those three together would be able to take it out.
Jack-Jack is a different story, though. Only God knows what Brad Bird has in store for his growing power set.

Kids didn't have a level since Syndrome didn't know of them. I'd imagine them at the end of the film to be around 5.0.

Helen's awfully high for her power, but against street level villains she'd have no problem.

>>88571731
Honestly, to beat the omnidroid all you have to do is lure it into attacking itself without getting hit. Anyone of them could have done it except maybe Violet because she has the worst mobility.

>>88571446
They don't have threat levels because the identity of Supers' children weren't public. They also didn't go through a lifetime of superheroics which probably factored into what Syndrome viewed as a threat versus the Omnidroid.

>>88571833
Bob was only able to do that by getting inside the damn thing.
None of them have the strength to remove one of the heads.

>>88571446
Mr. Incredible's rating is somewhat justified, even if you factor in any potential lingering fanboy-ism from Syndrome. Other supers had potentially more broken powers, but either couldn't use them at a level where they'd be dangerous, or they could use them but weren't that much more durable than a normal human.

Mr. Incredible had one of the highest durability ratings around, so he could tank what the Omnidroid could throw at him until it evolved.

>>88571915
> Violet uses a forcefield to pry open one of the ends
> Helen slips inside whenever the head is out
> Dash vibrates through it
> Jack-Jack somehow gets inside through the power of baby slapstick

>>88571446
>What was the threat rating of the kids?
He had no idea they existed. Hell he didnt even know elastigirl and mr. Incredible hooked ip

>>88571999
>> Dash vibrates through it
He's not the Flash anon.

>>88571915
Violet's able to move her force fields after forming them and is able to form them through solid matter.

She could conceivably tear anything apart by bubbling part of it and moving the bubble.

She can also fucking fly.

If she ever gains the ability to form multiple fields at once then I'd say she's the one that wrecks shop in the family and until then she's still a pain to 1v1.

>>88572052
is this porn

>Super powers and genetics
I can see where this is going.

[/spoiler]>tfw you'll never get to start a eugenics program with Helen.

>>88572111
According to DBZ rules a super/human child would be more powerful than a pure super. Hitler was wrong.

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>>88571785
Her threat rating is a little high, but I think Helen's threat rating was more due to her intelligence than her actual powers. She was one of the more intelligent supers.

>>88572111
>tfw you'll never get to start a eugenics program with Helen.
It's okay anon. Better men then you have tried and failed. She's a known heartbreaker.

>>88571999
Well, more likely ways for them to get the Omnidroid to attack itself is just:

>Dash runs all over it and tricks it into hitting itself
>Helen similarly slips around the hit.

>>88571999
>> Violet uses a forcefield to pry open one of the ends
And how the hell is she going to get inside of it? The Omnidroid is still too tall for her to even jump inside of it.
>Helen slips inside whenever the head is out
The robot was thrown head first into lava and it was still able to function. If lava could not slip through, I doubt that Helen can.
>Dash vibrates through it
He isn't the Flash.
I will give you Jack-Jack, though.

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>>88572280
How about the amazing psionic girl just makes a giant indestructible glass sphere around the robot, then slowly makes the sphere smaller.

Checkmate athiests.

Jack Jack could effortlessly solo it.

Violet could put a psionic bubble inside the Omnidroid and expand it.

Dash could just evade it until it ran out of power.

Helen is screwed, imo.

>>88571446
Depends on how fast Dash can run.
Jack Jack is stronger than both his parents though.

>>88571731
>>88571999
>>88572280
>>88572751
>>88572789
What's was Jack-Jack's deal? I'm sorry if this was revealed in some special editon thing, or panel, or whatever. I'm legit curious if they went for a similar thing as with Franklin Richards.

>>88572995
I always took it as his powers hadn't really stabilized because he was still a baby.

>>88572995
Jack-Jack can go through walls and can also float.
Utilizing this correctly, he could easily destroy the Omnidroids without much trouble.

>>88572995
His powers were revealed in a short that came with the DVD release, as well as at the very end of the actual film with a short bit he did with Syndrome. He has basically everything, but has little control over it since he's a baby.

Shapeshifting, levitation, laser eyes, the ability to phase through solid matter, able to eat various materials (he ate his way through a crib), can become a human torch, turn his body into possibly any material (movie showed him turning into some dense, heavy metal alloy), might have either teleportation or super speed (or both). The list goes on.

Who knows what his limits are, if there are any.

>>88573047
Comics say otherwise.

Jack Jack has Molecular Self-Manipulation. Which includes density shifting[Allows Phasing which also causes an electrical disturbance when he passes because his body generates bio-electricity so he just shuts down all electronics, and gives him near invulnerability], weight manipulation[allowing levitation and flight], complete shapeshifting even into other nonphysical elements such as fire, and he has Teleportation apparently.

>>88573239
Horry shiteru

Not just Jack-Jack, but Violet to me seems absurdly powerful. She basically has Sue Storm's powerset. If she can tweak her forcefields like Sue can she's completely broken as a super.

>>88573604
But as with Sue if you can deliver enough force against her shields it'll knock her out.

>>88573659
So it all depends on how strong she can make them. Is that a thing that will increase as she gets older?

That's something else to consider. All the Parr kids are still just kids. Even Violet is only barely a teenager. Will their powers get stronger as they age?

>>88573659
Whereas if you can deliver enough force to the rest of her family, they just fucking die

>>88572191
>minimum thickness 1mm
W-what's her Maxium?

Reminder Violet can fly as quickly as Dash can run

>>88573239
>>88573560
>>88573047
>>88572995
Director's intent is Jack Jack's grabbag represents the limitless potential babies have to be anything as well as that whole thing about how babies instinctively know how to swim for like the first year of their life but end up forgetting and having to relearn later.

Additionally, the only power Jack Jack was able to pass on when he had the superpower virus in the comic series was the Human Torch ability. None of the henchmen union members trying to take advantage of the contagion got any of the other powers he possessed, so most likely, fire powers were what Jack Jack's going to end up settling into going off the beliefs of the comic's writers.

>>88573732
Dash's top speed is only 190 MPH.

He's shit for Speedsters.

>>88573699
She could become a 3.8-4 meter wide circle at 1mm thickness

Who was that guy who though supers were the superior beings .

>>88573799
I wonder if, if the Parrs were somehow dumped in the DC Universe, Dash would be able to access the Speed Force.

>>88573885
Magneto?

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>>88573781
Not true.

Some gained Elfin Ears and troll-like appearances. Others turned into Liquid Metal in later pages. At least one member was covered in Spikes.

>>88572751
>Violet could put a psionic bubble inside the Omnidroid and expand it.

Could she? I can't remember if she ever projects them from a distance.

>>88572191
>strength diminishes in proportion to max elasticity
so how was she able to carry an RV on her own?

>>88573947
She projects one around the fireplace when they're hiding in the cave.

>>88571446

I dunno but her ass was lethal.

>>88573885
He had radioactive powers. Byronic maybe his name was?

>>88571973
Wasn't Bob rated as only the second or third highest? There were one or two others who were stronger than him, I think. One in particular was basically the Superman stand in.

>>88572111
>>tfw you'll never get to start a eugenics program with Helen.
There's a deleted scene for Incredibles where Syndrome realises that the kids are Bob and Helen's children, and says that they were being naughty because supers apparently aren't allowed to breed with each other.

>>88572191
>heroes incorporated
wasn't that the original working title of the incredibles? never caught that if so

>>88573986
Syndrome probably had cameras set up.

>>88573699
cool it Dobson

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>>88574079
>>88573885

>>88573901
Most speedsters get access to speed force simply by being in the DC universe
Some people who aren't even speedsters learn how to manipulate the speedforce as long as they spend enough time in contact with it

>>88572191
Figured the indestructability rating would be higher than that.

>>88576613
She's probably not any resistant to cutting, so it's too conditional to count maybe.

>>88576090
>Didn't have supervillains because he killed every villain
He feels so out of place.

>>88571446

That's fucking sexist and I will never watch the movie again.

>>88576685
How do u know that?

>>88576090
This nigga was killed by Syndrome, right? He also destroyed one omnidroid.

>>88576090
>Handsome Jack
>Prone to tryanical/megalomaniacal impulses

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>>88572052
nonononono

>>88576685
The Incredibles is pretty Golden Age. It doesn't really seem like most supers have qualms against killing.

>>88576884
>he doesn't know the deepest lore of Incredibles
https://youtu.be/d73WtJlko9E?t=695

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>>88571446
What would change on the movie, if the cast was gender swaped?

>>88577525
A fucking lot.

The entire characterization of the family is heavily based on gender roles.

I'm not even sure if Milf Mr.Incredible would be a frustraded housewife on midlife crisis, or had a similar job as canon - with midlife crisis.

>>88571446
>Bob not marrying a girl rated at 8.0 or above
Why is he afraid of REAL women?

>>88577329

I need to know more about the Supers. Can't wait for the sequel.

>>88578389
>implying there are girls rated that high

>>88572191
If you've never seen all the stuff thats on the 2 disc special edition Incredibles DVD you're missing out. No other Pixar property has the scope of world building that we got with Incredibles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R44MvXeEQw

My favorite was this faux 1950s cartoon they made, and even had Craig T Nelson and Sam Jackson do in character commentary for it.

>>88578616
skipperdoo x judy when?

>>88578616
Dig it, Daddy-o

>>88576090
Gamma Jack was right
Gamma Jack did nothing wrong

>>88578616
Does it come on the Blu Ray or is it just the special edition DVD?

>>88578389
It's Syndrome rating her tho

>>88578389
Elastigirl is the only one who would survive getting knocked up three times by Mr Incredible

>>88576090
What if he never died? Mr. Incredible tricked Syndrome into thinking he was dead by jumping off of a waterfall and avoiding a scanner by hiding behind Gazerbeam's bones. Who's to say Gamma Jack didn't pull off a similar stunt?

In fact, what if he faked his death to avoid being tracked by the NSA? He obviously has darker intentions, now that the supers are banned he can't carry them out as easily. Is Gamma Jack the villain of the next movie?

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>>88577329
>Thunderhead had 5 adopted children
>Died because of his cape

>>88573912
Guess it's just been a while. Could have sworn I only remembered fire guys showing up when the NSA sent a squad of reformed super-henchmen into Metroville near the end to deal with the Unforgivables situation.

>>88579420
We thought of that ages ago.

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>>88578616
> is that me?...im white lol

top kek, Sam Jackson and Craig T Nelson had god tier chemistry. Is what makes their conversations in the movie and this short so funny. Cant wait for more of that in the sequel.

>>88571446
>A man is more of a threat than a woman

Ugh, thank god we're past this kind of sexism in 2016.

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Clearly that rating didn't take Elastigirl's ass into account

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>Sucked into a jet engine.

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>>88579986

>>88577081
I wouldn't be surprised if Anthony Cuck ripped him off for Borderlands 2

>>88580071
Pretty fucking dark when you think about it.

>>88579420
I have a feeling he may have detonated himself ala Nuke from Marvel to destroy the next omnidroid which had been upgraded to resist radioactivity. But he had the unknown ability to put himself back together atom by atom after the explosion. And he did so then as you said used his presumed death to his advantage to stay off the grid and plan his revenge against a perceived inferior humanity that he felt wanted to destroy supers per Syndrome's actions. I really want him to be the villain in a sequel but to be different than magneto in how he and his agenda is portrayed. I could see him being played by someone like Rob Lowe or Chris Evans.

>>88580260
>Chris Evans
That's actually a great idea.

>>88580173

And she was just a teenager. Shit sucks.

>>88574267
Whether or not he was the absolute strongest I can't recall. I do remember he was the only hero with any real measure or invulnerability and had a Spidey sense.

>>88580453
>>88574267
Meta Man had a higher threat rating (9.6 to Mr Incredible's 9.1), but he was dead by the time Syndrome was hunting down supers because of a cape accident. He had a lot more powers (a ridiculous number: flight, super strength, X-ray vision, sonic scream, teleportation, magnetic manipulation, partial invisibility), but was nowhere near as indestructible (he has maxed out strength, endurance and power types, and very high agility, but lowish intelligence and very low indestructability).

There was also Universal Man, who was just as indestructible as Mr Incredible, and could control his density to anywhere from "gaseous" to "near black hole", but he didn't have the super strength Mr Incredible had and was only given a threat rating of 2.9, presumably because while he can tank stuff, he's not great on offense. He was maxed out on indestructability and very high on power type, but strength was only average and everything else was low or very low.

Mr Incredible wasn't the absolute strongest, or the most durable, but he had the right mix of the two as second or third strongest and second or third most durable that put him in the top echelon via the combination.

>>88580260
i always expected him to sound like conan obrien
mostly because of the hair

>>88579986
>Metric fuck tons of Frozen sfm porn to be found on Tumblr
>0.00 Elastigirl


Why is this allowed?

>>88572052
no ryona please!

>>88581471
>>88581489
>People couldnt tell if this fucker was a boy or a girl

>>88581379
>Atomic density manipulation
>Threat rating: 2.9
wot

>>88581574

Could this guy stop a bad guy without causing a shit ton of collateral damage? I mean, he makes earthquakes.

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>>88581598

Good defense, shit offense?

>>88581650
>>88581671
>he lost cuz it got slightly rounder

>>88581663
>that low intelligence
probably got caught off guard or didn't use his power in a smart way.

>>88581671
>>88581691
Or DID HE?

>>88581691
Probably they raised resitence and added a nuclear-proof armor.

Was Mr.Incredible really the best of his kind? Is there anyone that comes close to his threat level besides eugenics guy and Jack-Jack?

>>88581671
Was he the last one?

Where the Laser Eye guy comes?

>>88571446
How does super strength and stretch powers lead to the powers their children get? Or is this another cuck joke?

>>88571785
Threat rating is proportional to how hard they make Syndromes dick

That's why Mr Incredible has the highest rating

>>88581838
Its random bro. Didnt you see Jack Jack?

>>88571446
I'd like to see the top supers. Wish there were a full list. Would be nice to see a 10.

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>>88581835
We never get to see what Gazerbeam's rating is.

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>>88581962

>>88579528
Capes are useful. Incredibles 2 better have the bad guy beat their entire family and lose because of another guy using his cape intelligently. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE CAPES!!

So if supers were banned from doing heroics, who was stopping the villains and shit?

>>88572995
molecular shapeshifting

>>88582041
Threat of lawsuits.

I always fail to appreciate how fucking dark this film was. In fact, Brad Bird film's tend to have a dark nature to them.

>>88572751
>Dash could just evade it until it ran out of power.

I would imagine the thing would have a power source that would last longer than Dash could stay awake.

>>88581697
>Last active record 13-11-55
The Incredibles takes place during the 60s?

>>88582041
Bullets.

Venture Bros make it work.

>>88582092
It's true. Like, the Iron Giant was implicitly a weapon of planetary genocide, and then there's that bit in Ratatioulle where Remy's dad forces him to look at the store window full of rat corpses.

>>88582247
In the book, the Iron Giant end in a weird way.

>>88571446

I doubt Dash and Violet would be rated highly, maybe between 4-6. Jack-Jack is probably Mr. Incredible tier though.

>>88576960
After the first droid the next model was probably adjusted to resist/nullify radiation bursts.

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>>88572191
How is her indestructibility that low when she's made of elastic rubber?

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>>88580071
>Teenager
>Altruistic and fun loving
>Sucked into a jet engine in front of a bunch of people, probably causing the plane to crash

>>88582041

It's implied the NSA stepped in and shut everyone down.

If you kept your nose clean, you got to live, but if you stepped out of line, government hammered you.

>>88581412
>Psychic foresight
>>88581430
Clairvoyance

How do you counter that kind of shit?

>>88582206

Presumably, Syndrome was one person of many selling anti-superhero weapons to the government.

>>88580375
And she was waving at a little kid in the plane when she got sucked into the engine. That kid is fucking scarred for life.

>>88582472
>>88582492

That makes sense. Wish I got to see it.

>>88582008
You think as smart as someone like Edna or Syndrome are they'd design a cape that if pulled on strongly would just pop off leaving the wearer unhurt.

>>88582491
Sensory overload + speedy attacks. It's hard to utilize your foresight/clairvoyance effectively if you're too busy avoiding trees and shit thrown at you, so all the Omnidroid would have to do at that point is distract the super long enough to get a sneak attack in.

>>88582570
That's too high level for them. There should be a competitor for Edna who loves capes and designs different kinds for different purposes. Would be perfect for extra offense or defense. Edna would freak.

>>88582491
>nigga can see it coming
>still isn't quick enough to react/avoid an attack or demage the droid.

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>>88580071
>super strength
>low indestructibility
I've always found this to be a paradox. Wouldn't their own strength basically damage them?

>>88582521
That's assuming her getting sucked into the engine did not make it crash.

>>88582570
Wouldn't work that well too because most capes are given to flying supes who would be up in the air flying at high speeds.

If it was just buttoned in it would easily come off during battle.

>>88582574
>>88582597

These. Being able to predict an attack is great against an opponent you're on even footing with, but against a giant fucking killer robot specifically designed to kill superheroes your psychic powers amount to getting to see yourself die before you actually die.

>>88577329
This is great.

>get to Elastigirl
>can't get Senator Finch out of my head

THANKS ZACK!

>>88582609
Have a special button that detaches the cape.

>>88582570

The real question is how Edna got out of cape costumes and into regular fashion if she's a famous superhero and superheroes are totally banned.

>>88582596
Since Supers are no longer in business. What exactly does Edna do? I don't think suits like she gave to the Incrediables could be sold to most militarys, I mean they seem expensive.

>>88582664
She was not a hero, she was "support".

She just went back to regular models.

>>88582664
Edna's not a super. Odds are she worked for the government to create suits for supers, and she got enough money to start her own fashion line that's kept her going since the supers were forced underground.

>>88582247
I was also thinking of the scene in Tomorrowland where the girl bashes in the robot's head repeatedly, or where the girl robot is hit by a car.

>>88581379
>>88581412
>>88581430
>>88581471
>>88581489
>>88581510
>>88581531
>all these low ratings

Was Mr. Incredible OP or did Syndrome never find the other powerful superheroes?

>>88582732
Bob is OP as fuck. His super strength seems to be greater than other heroes' super strength, and he's also one of the only heroes with super durability.

Super strength is such a mundane power that you forget what a big deal it is. It's the difference between a hero you can stop and a hero you can't.

>>88582732
Depends, are the ratings from the government itself, or are they Syndrome's own appraisal of the superheroes?
If it's the latter, then he might have jacked up Mr. Incredible's rating due to his fanboying.

>>88582732
The scales were probably biased by Syndrome in Mr. Incredible's favor because of Syndrome's personal connection to him.

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>>88582732
Most of them, despite their powers, were no more harder to kill than a normal Human. Syndrome could have potentially just killed them with Snipers if he wanted to.

>>88582675
She says on the movie.

Regular fashion, but she hate it.

>>88582732
This here >>88582780
Bob could probably have defeated a good chunk of them without much problem.

>>88582196
70's.

You never noticed the really shitty box computers?

>>88582957
About 72 I think.

>threat ratings
Are things getting Watchmen now?

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>>88578389
Mezmerella, stop being bitter he didn't leave her for you.

>>88582780
You better keep posting Violets

>>88583016
>>88582957

I honestly glossed over the computers, those boxy computers are such a staple of the "shitty office" trope that I didn't even consider the fact that they were an indicator for the time period.

Also, I like that high voltage line right next to Bob's desk. If he weren't a super OSHA would have a fucking field day with that.

>>88582444

Rubber breaks when frozen and has a relatively low crystalization temperature of 6C. She also has a maximum distance she can stretch to, and a minimum width - pressumably, she can be squished to death still, for example.

>>88572335
Thats assuming the robot would break before she wears herself out.

>>88583083
Also, we don't exactly know how elastic her head is, considering it's the only part of her that remains intact when she stretches. For all we know a good headshot would still kill her.

>>88582982
That about matches up with the James Bond movies, villain lairs on volcano islands and all that jazz.

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>>88583083
Still doesn't warrant normal human level durability. Like my super strength argument earlier, someone with rubber powers ought to be somewhat durable just to be able to withstand their own powers.

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>>88583063
Look at the houses too.

The creators say that the setting is a retro-futuristic take on Art Deco.

>>88573781
>Director's intent is Jack Jack's grabbag represents the limitless potential babies have to be anything

Then why was there no mention of Dash or Violet having a grabbag of powers as a baby?

Through most of the film they're all convinced he had no powers, which makes me think his situation was pretty unique.

>>88583324
Its just symbolism, not in universe reason. All of their powers had symbolosm.

>>88583159
Was about to ask who the other kid is, then I realised it's Dash going fast so he can get the popcorn

>>88583360
Ah okay. I thought that anon/you was saying that every super baby goes through what he did, and as he matured he would eventually "settle" on one power or limited set of powers.

>>88582491
You force them into a situation where they dont have an out, even if they can see the future.

>>88582722
People get straight up murdered multiple times onscreen in that Tomorrowland Innocent ordinary people at that. Bird doesn't believe in coddling younger audiences

>>88583137
Something sharp would be enough to cut her open.
Anyway, her new suit adds a lot more protection, much more than her old one. She can definitely take much more of a beating with it.

>>88581663

I think his powers are limited by the fact he doesn't want to destroy the earth

>>88582957
>>88582982
The one time we see a paper in the movie it says 196-. And if Violet was born after 1955 and is currently a teen then the only year it can be is 1969.

But my memory might be screwing things up right now so I could be wrong.

>>88583517
Well lets hope he carries on with Incredibles 2. I was wondering, would you believe Brad Bird to be the type of person who would follow current trends in film?

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>>88581663
>Beta Force
>Low self esteem

>>88583694
If Tomorrowland is any indication he tries to keep up with current trends but doesn't actually examine them and is willing to draw poor conclusions and turn them into definitive generational statements.

For our sake I hope he sticks to more universal and timeless themes. Seems to be his wheelhouse and he does them pretty well.

>>88576090
Fucking Gamma Chad

>>88582606
If you look at humanity's understanding of cybernetics while the limbs could potentially accomplish superhuman feats the flesh and bone attached to it can't resist the strain.

A super with super strength and low indestructibility would have to constantly check their attacks or actions because they'd be at constant risk of pulping something.

>>88583494
Must be goddamn depressing to realize that it's all over for you and live with that realization for some more time

How stupid do you think the beta Omnidroids looked in action? It goes from a box on wheels to a box on legs to an egg on legs before we get to the ball of death. Has anyone ever done fanarts of them?

>>88584598
I might be able to do a couple doodles in a few minutes.

>>88584598
V1 specs say "treaded locomotion," so it was probably more like tank treads than a set of dinky wheels.

>>88573963
The same way a rope would, she didn't, she just bound it to the aircraft.

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>>88584598
Probably very, perhaps it is this that caused it's first target, one of the most powerful super heroes, to underestimate it and allow himself to be killed by it

>>88584708
Dunno the silhouette makes it look more like a wheelbarrow than a tank.

>>88584660
Sounds sweet.

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Posting favorite bit from the movie. Hell the whole sequence made Helen look great. Praying each family member gets their own time to shine again in the sequel

>>88581859
>>88579420
So you guys think they named Jack Jack after Gamma Jack?

>>88584917
Dunno if a megalomaniac type who thinks he's part a superior race would go alike with a guy like Mr. Incredible.

>>88584917
Jack Jack sounds like a nick name. So his name is probably actually John something.

>>88577329
Wait, how old is he supposed to be?

>>88585100
Depends on how straightforward he was about it. He might've had a good sense to keep friendly relations with his fellow supers, Mr. Incredible even more so, seeing how he was one of the strongest. You can see the crowd being all over him in that one photo as well. Perhaps to an unfamiliar person he seemed more of a smug and mysterious cool guy rather than a complete psychopath.

So, how would Syndrome know that the Omni is actually properly capable of countering that particular superpower, and that the hero wasn't just an idiot?

>>88577525
What a cutie.

>>88585388
Science

>>88585388
This is why you try again and again until the robot fail.

>>88582606
Yeah, exceptional strength without a more durable body would only mean that you are better at slowly pushing or lifting things. Punching, for example, would break your hands. Hell normal humans can do that anyways, super-strength punching would probably obliterate them.

Jumping would be like that dude in Morrowind; they couldn't survive the fall.

>>88573781
>babies know how to swim instinctively but then forget when they get older
I had to look for myself because I didnt believe you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0mUPr68x2U

WHERE

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MY

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SUIT

>>88587063
As funny as this bit was, im so hoping they dont donit again in the sequel

>>88573732
No she can't

>>88587547
Agreed. That would be a waste.

>>88587629
A mess. A big fat mistake.

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>>88586644
holy fuck

>>88585308
Who knows how much of the superiority and megalomania stuff was even known to his close associates. Hell there are people who are legit racist irl and their work friends have no idea. Like you notice weird comments here and there so one might wonder but a not super suspicious or observant person may miss it entirely.

>>88587650
JEB!

>>88582607
No, he was still scarred for life. Just a really short life.

>>88571973
Most of the supers with really broken powers still had no level of invulnerability. Even Meta Man who was basically Superman and Aquaman rolled into one did not have invulnerability.

Bob might be the physically sturdiest super out there.

But Dash might get a decent rating because he is impossible to hit but he cannot do a whole lot after that. Violet much higher because of the forcefield being incredibly powerful.

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If they release a comic series with the second release, which you would prefer to see?

>Prequel series taking place in the golden age of heroes

>Midquel series between the films

>Sequel to the second film with new adventures

>>88572052
that's not gonna end well

>>88572191
>power type
>indestructibility
>bar charts
You're either destructible or indestructible, there's no scale here.
There's no scale for "power type" either. "Type" implies a list, not a scale.

>>88588044
I just want an ending for the series they did a few years ago.

>>88572191
Functional stretch length always confused me. Is that her limit or is it her length when she can still control her body?

>>88588151
>You're either destructible or indestructible, there's no scale here.

So Spiderman is just as durable as Superman?

>>88573047
Yea it was sort of like this.

They were playing with the Franklin Richards concept and in the commentary talked about how babies have limitless potential.

But molecular shapeshifter is a decent explanation. And not terribly overpowered compared to other supers that existed in that world. One guy could break down molecular bonds, and used power hammers to augment that.

>>88588237
>length when she can still control her body?
Bingo. Probably hurts like hell at that point.

>>88588237
That's probably the limit she can stretch and still be able to do stuff, any more than that and she'll go completely limp.

>>88588044
Selfcest, when?

>>88577329
>Hypershock just reading his card and then storming off because of his hangover

>>88588276
You used a different word, did you notice?
Durability/durableness has a scale, from zero to whatever.
Indestructibility has no scale. You're either indestructible or you're not.

>>88588044
Well if Gamma Jack is the villain and the movie doesn't show a flashback to how he survived the omnidroid I'd like something that fleshes that out along with his personality.

>>88571446
Pretty sure that says 8.2

>>88576685
Ehh, killing seemed to be a thin in that setting. Lots of supers died just through their typical work. Syndrome killed about a dozen of them, many are irrelevant to testing the weapon. And Helen talks about how villains absolutely will try to kill you, and how they are not like what you see in cartoons.

>>88576090
/pol/ the super

>>88580071
she she was only a kid?

>>88582606
Considering that elastigirl is rated as low indestructibility after she carried a fucking RV on her limbs for several hours in the freezing cold of high atmosphere, and wasn't even particularly bothered or distressed by it afterward, I think they may have different standards for durability. Standards like 'can be smashed with a gigantic metal ball so hard that the street collapses and leaves a gigantic crater and yet be perfectly fine and walk it off immediately' moreso then 'can take (or dish out) a punch'.

>>88582008
Maybe if the sequel had an unpowered unhinged absolute justice weirdo Batman type that actually uses his cape in a smart way.

>>88582664
The incredibles doesn't seem to label super genius as 'super'. Buddy was clearly a super considering he built a way for himself to fly at ten fucking years old, yet not even he seemed to believe it.

>>88588278
>>88588298
Alright, so she can go farther but wont be able to control past that point. Seeing the nature of the word elastic itself, she'll pull herself together willingly or not

>>88588735
Maybe they never had a genius super before, so they never considered it. It's only in DC and Marvel where 50% of supers have genius level intellect

>>88581627

Stupid name.. She kills storms or what?

>>88581650

Cancerjack :$

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>>88583063
>Also, I like that high voltage line right next to Bob's desk.
Coincidence?

>>88576090
>prone to tyrannical/megalomaniacal impulses
Fuck, I really want this dude to be the villain of The Incredibles 2.

>>88580260
This has so much potential.

>>88578616
'THEY SAID IT WAS A BREAKTHROUGH"
lol
This shit right here is why The Incredibles is the best pixar movie.

>>88582606
Spiderman lifts 40-ish tons, is not even bulletproof, he is barely more durable than a normal person.

Most animal themed super characters are in this same level. They can lift several tons but a knife will kill them fast.

Incredibles is more in the silver age Marvel range of super strength. Possibly Golden age DC No one is pushing a planet and the top guys are hefting trains.

>>88578932
It's on the Blu too. They carried over all the extras more or less.

>>88582521
>>88582607
Yea you hear the engine fail alarm go off in that scene. That plane went down seconds later.

>>88581414
Elastagirl porn is inflation porn....

>>88582491
It's a robot, who cares what he sees coming, there is not a damn thing he can do about a giant robot.

>>88587013
>>88587063
>that comic where Frozone disguised himself as a doctor to catch a super villain and ended up having a threesome with a nurse and a patient

>>88589014
>inflation
Elastic is its own fetish fampai.

>>88581551
>gaseous expulsion
Could this dude just super-fart or something?

>>88580260
What would he look like afterwards? The same as before, or old and withered, further spitting in the face of his once-apt nickname?

>>88572280
Her shields aren't indestructible and they only seem to last for a while if they are big. They break with force and the robot can learn well enough.

>>88589092
That's the joke, yeah.

>>88582491
what good is knowing the future if you aren't fast or strong enough to change it

>>88589178
>Threat rating: 6.5

>>88589134
Maybe he'd look like Blight from Batman Beyond.

>>88581607
i would have figured a gravity controller would win over one of these omnidroids

>>88579528
It's implied that he's gay, anon. Who raises kids with their roommate?

>>88589281
Her powers were solar power based, maybe she got killed at night with no power?

So during this movie, in-lore were the only super heroes the Incredible's and Samuel Jackson? Or were there other heroes but were living or trying to live normal lives?

Also, asking anyone here from /u/, do you think there are/were lesbian super heroines?

>>88589281
Maybe she could only control her own personal gravity?

>>88573799

Dude he's only like 7 years old and can run 190mph

Once he's older and doesn't have stumpy little 4th grader legs he's gonna be blur

>>88589392
>So during this movie, in-lore were the only super heroes the Incredible's and Samuel Jackson? Or were there other heroes but were living or trying to live normal lives?
The latter, although Syndrome killed a lot of them to test the Omnidroid.

>>88582196
1971, it's hinted a few times and you get the date on the newspapers, and the Metroville stadium part at the end.

>>88589392
In universe there's probably plenty of super powered people that just hid due to what happened, some that probably never even tried to be a super hero because of it.

The events of the Incredibles will probably cause a lot more supers to come out of hiding.

>>88589224
Could he beat Elastigirl 1v1?

>>88589486
Maybe. Elasti-Girl can't do shit about gases, can she?

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>Brad Bird will never helm a Fantastic Four movie

>>88588971
>>88582606
Mr Incredible is the second strongest guy in the setting, strength maxes at 55 tons.

This is a street to low tier setting.

>>88582732
Majority of the heroes he killed were no real match for a giant robot. Even Blazestone is not going to hurt a robot, but I assume she is why the omnidroid is lavaproof. They were all just really low powered except the few that successfully defeated a droid.

>>88582761
The second disc files are all from the NSA and they have the same rating system so I assume it's the government rating system.

>>88589643
If Syndrone did supply the government with weapons it could be very likely he was able to get his hands on that list. If all the Supers were in a sort of program like witness protection maybe that was how he was able to find them all.

>>88571999

Problem is that none of the kids (except for Jack-Jack) have shown to have that level of control/raw power with their abilities. Dash is fast, but we don't know if it's even possible in this universe to vibrate through an object. Violet's been able to create domes and half-domes with her forcefields. Helen hasn't shown to be so flexible so as to slip through a seam.

>>88589563
MY SCANNER CAN PICK UP ANYTHING

>>88584042
Like Deku in Boku no Hero Academia

>>88588008
>Meta Man

>Meta Man's superpowers included flight, enhanced strength, x-ray vision, magnetic manipulation, sonic screaming, teleportation, and partial invisibility.

Holy shit. Give him enhanced durability and he would be ridiculously OP.

Would Bob have survived the lava? He didn't seem to think he would, but he was insanely durable.

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>>88589615

nah, stetcho. It's done. Marvel doesn't give a fuck about uh, Fox will never give the rights back even though they just bleed money on em.

What's the point of anything. First Family of super heroes and what's it all for.

>>88589805

Considering he was more or less fine while in extremely close proximity, the lava itself probably wouldn't really cause a lot of damage to him

However, he'd completely lose any sort of maneuverability if he fell in, making it hilariously easy for the bot to finish him off

>>88589805
if he fell in just deep enough i'm sure he would just suffocate

>>88589885

also Drowning would be an issue

>>88589092
>>88589178
>>88589224
>Johnny X would be a top tier super in the Incredibles
Would anyone be able to beat him?

So when did supers even start popping up in the Incredibles universe? Have they ever affected human society in a major way? Probably overthinking things by this point, but it'd be legitimately cool if mythological figures like the Greek pantheon were supers in the Incredibles universe, being worshiped as gods by the unknowing peons. Like, how much does the Incredibles universe deviate from our own?

>>88589910

Yeah, but that probably wouldn't happen without the bot's interference

>>88589934
>So when did supers even start popping up in the Incredibles universe?

According to someone at Pixar, can't remember who, supers are the result of monsters, from the Monsters Inc movies, breeding with humans. So probably at least a few thousand years ago, maybe even longer still.

>the likes of Hercules, Samson, etc were Supers

>>88589392
>do you think there are/were lesbian super heroines?
Well there was Silhouette but she and her lover were killed for being "Lesbian Whores."

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>>88588496
Nah, I want the villain to be an edgy over the top hyper violent 80'-90's style hero with all the ammo pouches and leather jackets over their tights. Then there can be that clash of ideologies of classic heroes who have that moral code vs the new superheroes who try to be hardcore extreme all the time.

And the hardcore guys are seducing the Parr kids over to their side.

>>88590090
>According to someone at Pixar, can't remember who, supers are the result of monsters, from the Monsters Inc movies, breeding with humans.
wat?

So were these monsters like classical monsters from myth, like the Hydra, Euryale, and so on?

>>88590119
>there will never be more sequels chronicling the Parr family tree as we move onto the modern age

>>88590090
>supers are the result of monsters, from the Monsters Inc movies
that's bullshit and i don't believe it

Supers probably came around the time the atomic bomb was being tested

>>88589717
He's an evil genius billionaire with legions of henchmen and spies. I imagine he got someone to steal the info.

>>88590206
>Supers probably came around the time the atomic bomb was being tested
I like this idea, simply because it seems like if supers have been around since ancient times, they'd be a much bigger influence on society than it seems like they were in the movie.

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>>88590197
Heads aren't the only things Hydras have five of.

>>88571973
Don't forget he has spidey senses.

>>88590090
Never heard this at all.

I imagine it is basically mirroring superhero comics, with superpowered people appearing around the early 40's and becoming more populous later on.

>>88581412

>Future sight and telekinesis.

How much did she job in order to lose to a low-level Omindroid?

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>>88590090

wait wat

>>88590261
But didn't the Hydra have 9 heads?

>>88590396
>Future sight
Never says how far into the future she could see, or how clearly either.
>telekinesis
Never says how much she can pick up.

>girl that can only lift up a few pounds and see only a blurry five seconds into the future becomes a super hero

>>88590459

That's Yamata no Orochi. Hydra is like 8

>>88590518
No you idiot. Orochi was the one with 8 heads iirc. The number of heads Hydra had isn't completely clear, but the consensus is that it was 9. Fuck.

DID SOMEBODY SAY SHADMAN

>>88590585
Dear God, please don't.

>>88589092
>>88589178
>>88589224
Keep in mind the Omnidroid leveled up to fight this guy. It jumps from 2 to 3 without being defeated.

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>>88588859
The implications are downright grim

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>>88588859
Would it even work?

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So when's the sequel? Love the movie, they beter not make it shitty either.

Reminder that Gazerbeam was an asshole who broke up the Thrilling Three after getting kicked out of the Phantasmics.

>>88590664
2018.

After rewatching the movie, the Incredibles killed a lot of people.

>>88590664
I have yet to see an animated Brad Bird movie fail

>>88571785

Elastigirls power is more about being "flexible" in how she uses her powers

>>88577329
>Frozone flirted with Blazestone
>Downburst hated him for it

>>88590477
>irl that can only lift up a few pounds and see only a blurry five seconds into the future becomes a super hero
I suppose that was enough to stop what passes for villains in the universe i.e. random people that just happen to have a lot of bombs or firearms on them

>>88590699
I feel bad for the henchmen. They were just blue collar guys with families.

>>88590900
They signed up for this

>>88590932

only because society gave them no other choice. Out of desperation they turned to the life of a hired hood but now no one will give them a chance to start over keeping them trapped there forever

>>88582758

As corny as this sounds, I think Supergirl does a good job of illustrating this. Most of her villains are older and smarter than her, but combine her insane strength with her bulletproof level durability, and she just cannot be stopped.

>>88586644
This was really hard to watch.
The whole time it was screaming was intense as fuck

>>88590206
>>88590256

That's the backstory of the "Push" universe. Around the time of the atom bomb, psychics start appearing.

But if the "glory days" are in the 1950s and Mr. Incredible during that time period is 30-ish, that would mean he was born before the atom bombing, meaning that the atomic bomb awakened something in people already alive.

>>88574079
No, Byronic had a different outfit...

>>88577329
gazerbeam sounds really awkward and cute

>>88577329
Gamma Jack's tape is disappointing. I was expecting some dark shit where he implies that normals are inferior to supers and acts like a bully. But he kinda just comes off as an asshole "Chad".

>>88591648
Perhaps he's smarter than to testify on tape. Then again he basically admits to giving fuck all about civilian casualties unless they're a hot chick.

>>88591766
Well his intelligence rating is pretty damn high, so probably.

I've seen people give the no capes scene flak for making fun of the superheroes deaths, but it didn't seem to be like it was really played all that humorously. Edna is just very eccentric. I'm sure what happened actually bothers her.

>>88590119
No, that's stupid. Gamma Jack should be the villain.

>>88591017
>society gave them no other choice
Yeah society forced them to be pieces of shut for pay who kill people. Because there are no other jobs for poor people.

>>88591648
You're assuming his ideas of superiority and megalomania were things he was open about and not things he kept secret that the government found out through careful observation/spying/psychics.

I want something that expands on all the lore in the bonus features of the Incredibles DVD

IIRC

Jack-Jack's powers are a result of

>"All the leading experts say Mozart makes babies smarter"

So with Supers, it gives them the ability to obtain multiple powers during infancy.

>>88592246
I'm wondering/hoping they didn't find out the truth before he "died".

>>88592246
True.

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Wonder if the sequel will acknowledge Mirage's death or just not have her in altogether

>>88590090
>the likes of Hercules, Samson, etc were Supers
Wasn't this a plot point in Suicide Squad?

>>88592882
Will the comics be acknowledged at all?

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>>88582008
Not sure what you mean. This is literally the only useful cape I can think of.

>>88582247
Why in the world would anyone want to shop somewhere with rat corpses hanging in the window? It's disgusting, smells bad, and they easily could've gotten them off the street, they don't prove they're effective.

>>88582472
That sounds a lot safer than a world of superheroes and super villains, why revise that?

>>88593026
Pixar doesn't even acknowledge the Buzz Lightyear cartoon. The Incredibles comic doesn't stand a chance.

>>88579286
>LIKE A FUCKING SHOTGUN BLAST

>>88593089
Well it works because that store is a real place that's been active for over a 100 years.

http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/julien-aurouze-and-co

>>88592491
It would be interesting to have something that ends up being a big reveal to the characters in the movie turns out to be something the government knew about for years.