How's Your Webcomic? #334

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

>want to do a prequel type comic someday
>have a popular game setting in mind. always wanted to see it get more attention
>should get the COMIC more attention, finally get some real readers
>but that's going to limit the monetizing prospects somewhat
>I could just as easily make it my own original setting! In fact that would be more fun!
>but then it won't get that immediate popularity
The fact that I got way into Prequel despite knowing nothing about, and having no interest in, elder scrolls, is not helping this decision. In any case it's pretty far off

uh.. bump?

I wonder if Anterra Chronicles will update again

I actually wasn't going to make another thread but then the last one picked up nicely, so

so where is everybody?

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Nobody is posting anything, so I might as well start
I finally finished this awful test prologue for my dumb webcomic, and it's a good 30 somethin pages long
http://vidyadeparted.tumblr.com/post/143519142838/first

If you don't wanna use that website, I got the whole thing on imgur too
http://imgur.com/a/t2SVB

I drew the first 10-20 pages months ago, just in case you are wondering why they look a lot worse than the rest of the pages
Tell me what you think. Is it actually somewhat decent or god awful?

>>88565257
two Ss in embarrassing
I'm liking this story. It's a little confusing though, are they all in the game all the time? why? even the complaint department? so the mom has an account?
But there's a neat story building here and I'm actually interested in it. surprising amount of depth. these characters feel like real people
The simplistic art does nothing for me since it's TOO simple to even make out what things are, yet the lighting and placement are all great. If you've been wondering if you should graduate past geometric shapes, I say go for it. You can clearly handle it. the way you block out the scenes and use different focus and all that, I love it

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>>88565582
Holy shit did I misspell embarrassing? Well shit that's embarrassing
The whole story is supposed to be a slice of life comic about these losers playing some online game, they aren't stuck in it or anything. The mom being there was kindof just a neat visual I thought of.

For the geometric shapes, I do want to try to improve that, but I just kept it as it was for the whole thing just to keep it the same throughout the prologue. I'll definitely try my best to make it more complex in future updates

>>88565733
yeah you could just say the game got an update
I'm all for simplistic looks, as long as they're still recognizable and stand out, y'know? like, everyone recognizes a stick figure as a representation of human. These kinda don't
So is it meant to be a literal representation of what's in the game or only figurative?

>>88565771
I guess the visuals could be taken literally or figuratively. I was planning on it being literal but it being figurative might also be a nice way to go

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Gimme some feedback.

I'm adding a character called Negrohst (still working on the name)

The gimmick is I'm only drawing 3/5's of him, and after that's used up I'm just going to make him have a longer ghost tail.

>>88566014
>Negrohst
That's stupidly dumb enough that it's perfect. I love it

>The gimmick is I'm only drawing 3/5's of him, and after that's used up I'm just going to make him have a longer ghost tail.
What? Maybe say that differently because I have no clue what that means

What's a good hosting site for a cub porn comic?

>>88566187
The Three-Fifths Compromise that was set up in 1787 when deciding what blacks would count for in terms of determining the number of seats in the US House of Reps.

Basically blacks weren't complete people.
Some say they still aren't to this very day.

>>88566273
Okay that's pretty funny, good on ya man

>>88566014
Sounds pretty retarded

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I put off finishing this page when I could have had it done last night, so I could put more stuff in the backgrounds...
... still couldn't think of any today. Oh well

Huge thanks to everyone for (eventually) letting me know my lines sucked. This new larger canvas is more of a struggle to work with, but I think the results will be worth it once I get used to it. I can really see a difference in the lines.

>>88566014
I would definitely go with the ghrost spelling, but there's already a much better and less awkward pun for black-people-and-ghosts: spook

>>88566212
any of them except tumblr

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Debuting Negrohst

Super scrub artist here, working through drawabox.

Just asking - is there a common angle I should be trying to get comfortable with to draw lines? Obviously, I should be trying to get good at drawing lines and such at every angle, but I'm kind of curious if there's one sort of most useful angle I should be working on. Like right now, I'm very comfortable drawing lines at a 45 degree angle from bottom left to top right, but I'm still wobbly drawing straight horizontal. I feel like it's a stupid question, but I'm just kind of curious.

>>88567533
I actually know what you mean. You can answer that question by just considering what kind of scenes you like to draw most

yo nigga could i get in on that discord

>>88567664
That's actually a super helpful answer, thanks.

>>88567697
do you actually need a fresh one every time, or are there seriously new people in every thread that want to join?

>>88568902
i'm new, i just...wanted to join

>>88568990
Okay just curious because we get so many people in every thread asking, I was wondering if it was the same guy every time and the links just expire or something

>>88569069
i am a new person who is trying to make a webcomic and would like to chat with others that are also making webcomics...
could i get a link

>>88569096
oh sorry, I can't give you one because of the settings or something
there's only 6 people in the thread right now, stick around and maybe someone can get you one

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Any page where I can upload my comic? Or is it better to have a page of your own? or tumblr?

>>88569263
you get a website of your own, but it can be an account on a site like comicgenesis or comicfury

>>88569296
thanks mate! , I'm not going to upload anything anyway, for the moment I'm just drawing the characters and writing the story

>>88569069
This is the kind of thread where you get new people popping in for a thread or two and then disappearing forever. They'll ask for the Discord thinking "This time I won't lose interest!" I know so well because I'm one of those people.

>>88569380
That's the best way to start, yeah. and feel free to totally brainstorm at first, don't worry about it being orderly. jot down every thought you have, you can order it later when you're out of that mood
>>88569533
s'long as we get new blood. the last thread had a lot of interesting new peeps, and I'll link in case anyone wasn't there and wants to see the new comics: >>88479488

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Hi /hyw/, I finished updating the introduction of a project this week

http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Noctimancy/5526886/

Do you guys ever deal with looking at past pages of your work and think that you could do better? I finished this a while back while doing a new chapter and when I look at it now I want to crawl into a hole.

>>88569828
gotta admit I have had trouble following this, but I like it anyway and have it bookmarked. It might be one of those comics that you need to read all in a row to really make heads and/or tails of it.
>the rest of that
strangely yes but it takes a while. I have a subtle gradient going back where everything looks okay if I did it recently, but awful the older it is.. and it's disturbing because that never changes, so what once looked good, then okay, now looks bad.. and I know everything I'm doing now is going to be like that in the future
just crawl into the hole with the rest of us and keep drawing. Your stuff looks nice. you can draw in the hole.

>>88569960
Thanks anon, that's all pretty reassuring. I'd rather have a gradient and the hole than stop entirely.

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Finished this page!

>>88571151
You felt need to fix the "getting punched" face

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>>88569828
>artsy fartsy title page

>>88571967
he needs to fix the entire thing

>>88571967
Huh? She always got punched in the face in this page.

>>88571970
it's plain as shit

>>88572398
Fucking idiot you're just not educated enough to appreciate the subtle mood and implications brought out by the contrast between a soft gradient tone against the refined edges of a dignified font

someone randomly posted Ah Pie in the last thread. was that actually your comic? if so, come back, stick around, and maybe tell us about it
I can't get past the weird coincidence that Ah-Pie is the name of the dumpling-headed guy in Legend of Lucky Pie, and the Ah- part apparently means little brother while Lucky-Go is the older brother

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>Project Wonderful adbox has been making piss-pennies for years
Should I just abandon the fucking thing? I'm probably better off not having the ugly little ad at the top of my page making me 2 cents a day and stick to waiting until I have enough readers to warrant a Patreon.

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Posting comic.

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Finally getting ready to start the next storyline. Grad school really eats up comic-making time.

>>88567533
Top tip:
You only need to get really good at drawing long straight lines at one angle. For angles that are more awkward, you can turn the paper (or digital canvas) when you need a really long line.

>>88567533
Pro tip: just trace from references

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First comic. First draft.

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Second comic. First draft. I'd like the Discord invite once more.

>>88575851
>>88575861
i don't know what I'm reading

>>88576098
Well shit. I need to make it more apparent.

>>88575851
>>88575861
Cute, if a bit messy.

>>88576106
Ignore him, he's the village idiot.

Your idea's interesting, but you should work on your dialogue. Also, more dynamic panneling can help sell the punchline.

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Some redesigns

synopsis:
A 30 year old sysadmin's breakup with his fiance leads him to uncover a web of conspiracies and he devises a plan to save humanity.

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https://tapastic.com/series/Officew
I made this...unfortunately

>>88579101
It's my very first webcomic but it's mostly just a shitpost comic I do because it amuses me for stickmen to do ridiculous shit

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Bump

>>88579101
>>88581893

This comic is interesting.

Keep on making it.

>>88575851
>I don't want you help
>>88575861
snicker. keep it up

>>88578919
glad you're still around
so the 10:00-and-2:00 eyes weren't as popular with you eh? that's okay.

You can make it, if you don't give up.

Opinion needed.

Which of these sounds like a better villain name in a fantasy setting?


>Silas Korver
>Isaac Fairchild
>Cornelius Armin
>Tobias Harkin

>>88585005
I'd say Harkin's the best

Korver sounds crow inspired, which has gotten very stale and sounds way too obviously like a villain
Isaac Fairchild sounds way too 'on the nose' but would make sense with a religious character, so I place it at number 2. It also sounds a bit like you're trying too hard to make it sound like a 'not a villain' name by going too far in the opposite direction.
Armin isn't bad, but coupled with Cornelius sounds a bit too try-hard if that makes sense. It would fit perfect a steampunk setting, which you could take as either a compliment or an insult.
Tobias Harkin sounds like a real name and is fairly unique, but not in a way that sounds like you're trying to be unique for its own sake. Sounds villainy, but not in a corny way like 'Sol Badguy.'

>>88585005
Depends on the villain, and what kind of person they are, what their appearance is. Silas Korver sounds like a lower class cowardly miser, while Isaac Fairchild could be a wealthy, handsome, but exceedingly cruel noble.
Tell us what you have in mind.

>>88585162
He's supposed to be a fairly average individual in terms of any discernible skill. He can't really fight, has no magic abilities to speak of. The only thing he is really doing is organizing Machine Abominations in an attempt to allow them to take over the world because he sees them as Perfection.

>>88585403
>>88585162
A better comparison.

Imagine the Unitologists from Dead Space in terms of motivation.

>>88585403

Tobias Harkin fits that description. Though I would rename him Tobias Harker.

>>88585403
I'd say Tobias then. Sounds like the name of someone who would want to ruin the world

>>88585403
>organizing a machine takeover
eh... none of those first names works then.. but i could see him being a dr. isaacson

>>88585536
>>88585541
Cool, thanks for the input

>>88585568
bumples

At what point should I actually share my webcomic here instead of just lurking? I've never posted it because I'm afraid of being attention seeking, even though sharing your webcomic is the entire point of these threads. Is just sharing a link to your webcomic acceptable?

>>88586964
If you actually have material to share you're golden.

Post it dog.

>>88586964
give us a link, post a page you think is a good representation, and give us a little info on what it's about
if it sucks, just say something like 'i'm still learning' and anyone reasonable will understand

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>>88586983
>>88587032
Alright.
It's called Something You Want. I started it last year as a joke, but then kept going and now i'm 260 pages in. I'm in the process of redoing the beginning so it doesn't suck, and I'm working hard to better my artstyle and writing. I'm also working on getting it hosted on an actual website, but at the moment it's hosted on tumblr and tapastic. Here's the most recent page.
Basic premise is the main character runs a failing deli and gets wrapped up in selling human meat to cannibals.
http://somethingyouwant.tumblr.com/
https://tapastic.com/series/Something-You-Want
I need to update the tapastic with the most recent pages, but here it is.

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>>88587180
For comparison, here's the first page. It's REALLY bad, but I have the redo in progress

>>88587180

Look like pearl if she got turn into a human boy.

>>88587180
>>88587213
shit, I like the style! I'll give this a shot. if the story's good I think you've got yourself a bookmark

>>88587213
well it seems like your other page is solid so i have faith you can redo this one easy

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>>88587429
Thanks. Here's the first page of the redo, which I'm still not totally happy with but it's a start. I'm not too far into the redo but it'll get there.
>>88587369
Thanks! Hope you enjoy it.

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>>88587350
I'd be lying if I said I didn't see it too.

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>>88559032

will bones ever be good at anatomy?

he posted this on his deviantart today

its his main character for his webcomic or whatever

im obviously not him, just asking

>>88587469
>I'm not too far into the redo
if it's still not too late, maybe reconsider. I think your first comics are charming as all fuck. There's nothing really wrong with them, they're just simple messy cartoons.

>>88587469
You can redraw the pages when you're assembling them for a print collection, to keep the art style consistent. But until then, focus on the new pages. Keep going forward.

bump
doing a guest comic for another comic. i'll share it when i'm done

>>88589558
>>88589412
Hm, you may be right. I haven't had a lot of time to work on them for a few months, maybe I'll tackle them all at once if printing is ever a possibility like you said. Thanks!

>>88588164
I've never seen him make an attempt, beyond tracing, so no.

>>88591421
>replying to either probablybones or a troll trying to stir shit up
cmon anon. cmonon.

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>>88582771
>https://tapastic.com/series/Officew
People keep telling me that despite my incredible self loathing. Huh I guess I really should do this

>>88591855
yeah dude even if you completely sucked that's no reason to quit.

>>88593017
The question to me now is how much do I suck?

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MONSTER LANDS has updated. The Destructor believes Marcus is the hero he has to fight. He is wrong because Marcus is a fraud to takes credit for the protagonist's hard work.

>>88593076
here's how I look at it:
it doesn't really matter HOW hungry you are, you still eat, right?

>>88593114
man I don't trust that fairy...

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two random pages for funzies.

>>88593619
she doesnt seem very surprised to have hit... glass? in the sky? also holy shit this goo is huge apparently.

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>>88593619

>>88593764
oh!
hahahaha. I wonder if that happens to superheroes.. when you're asleep your body paralyzes itself but we don't even know what part of the body flying works with...

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Good evening, /hyw/, I've been lurking here forever; I'm working on a comic, but I haven't released it yet (waiting to build up an appreciable backlog, since it takes so long to complete the pages) and this lonely, stoic production style has left me antsy and wanting to share at least something in the meantime.

Fortunately, I've generated a rather large amount of sketches related to the comic (mostly on down-time at my day job), and even better, many of them are not plot related either, or at least wouldn't potentially spoil anything later.

So, to alleviate this, and maybe even get some traffic on my tumblr, and help promote the actual comic upon publishing it, I'm trying an experiment of releasing one sketch a day, every day, for about 3 months, or however long I can keep it going, since I tend to sketch at least a few pictures every week anyway.

With Christmas coming up, I decided to do some winter and holiday themed sketch comics too (pic related.) I guess I'll see if this pays off in the end!

TL;DR
Anyone manage to attract some active followers on tumblr? I haven't had much luck with my art blog thus far, but it's also been pretty slow up until now.

>>88583044
they looked too much like ears in the end

>>88594468
I kinda like this
is there a reason theyre beakyhorses or is that just the way it is?
>>88594505
I hear that. as long as they look catfishy.

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>>88594574
>beakyhorses
That's funny; I like it.
Uh, no particular reason though. I've always liked birds and horses, and drawing characters based on either, so when I saw hippogryphs in a D&D book I naturally thought it was great.

In the actual comic, I have three races based on those animals. Again, more or less just because that's what I wanted to draw, and I figured I'd stay invested in a long term project if it was what I already liked to draw.

I too, shall make webcomic. I already have the characters and basic events plotted out and a fuzzy idea of the world in place. All I have to do is make the damn thing. I don't know if my art is ready though. Pic is of one of my main characters, a boy who can can magically fix broken objects or make things out of scrap with his screwdriver.

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>>88594880
Forgot picture, damnit all

>>88594904
I like your style, and you seem to have some things down.. hair's good.. but you clearly need to work on some basics, the eyes aren't placed on properly, and everything below chin level is completely bad. I don't think you're ready, no.
I like the idea though. tinkerer guys are always cool

>>88594904
loomis

>>88595092
I knew it, back to the study dungeons again. Now to be fair, this is a week old and I've only recently bothered to show it online. I've been trying to go back and study anatomy and proportions for 8 hours a day for the past 2 weeks and after that I can tell that shoulders are all jacked up and the eye sockets are bit weird. I know I should've made a more recent picture to show in retrospect, but my styluses are being jittery right now so I have to wait for some new ones. I do have a scanner though so I could show pencil work if you guys really cares

>>88595213
Nice meme, but I use the Loomis method too now. Spheres with the sides cut off are pretty great.

>>88595229
I agree, it's not that your art is necessarily "bad" but you need to develop your style more and make it your own. No offense, but it seems like you're copy and pasting out of a "how to draw manga" book, and like you said, study anatomy and proportions, faces are easy, everything else is a pain in the ass

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>>88595385
"how to draw manga book"
Cmon now, the picture wasn't THAT bad compared to those books.
I don't think I've ever used one of those books and I've been trying to get good at anatomy for a couple months now. The annoying part is that the whole human body is like a bunch of puzzle pieces that fit together- and if you start getting good at one part you sometimes forget the other pieces and you're back to where you started.

But even so, jesus christ, what was I thinking with those shoulders....and that neck

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>>88595507
Draw the entire body while practicing. It takes way long, but it's worth it. Don't bother working out the details on the body, just get the "feel" of how it should look.
Also, I figured you've probably never used one of those "how to" books, but watching anime tends to leak into people's art styles, it did for me.

>>88595507
The trick with keeping anatomy and proportions correct is to constantly check it against itself (obviously this first requires an understanding of how it looks in real life) but anyway, the key is looking at how the body parts, or masses interact with each other to form the whole shape.

If you practice life drawing, or even just studying anatomy illustrations and trying to draw those, you'll start to learn how to check things as you draw, like the distances between joints, where the elbows and hands reach on the side of the torso, or how the various muscle groups intersect, and how that affects the shape of the body.

>>88595507
>if you start getting good at one part you sometimes forget the other pieces
you might be retarded

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>>88594904
>checks board
>Sees how much better someone is than you and still decides to not make a webcomic
>Gets existensial crisis

>>88595681
No it's a definite thing. You can study legs for a month but if you don't do it every day it can start to fade. Really the problem is remembering the form and proportions as the body turns in space which I'm starting to work on

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>>88595385
>>88595507
You do know those books contain anatomy and proportion studies, right?

>>88595605
I like how you still managed to not make them look stiff anon.

>>88595740
No, because I've tended to avoid them as they usually are bad. Even as a kid, I could tell they probably weren't the best source for correct information. There might be some good ones out there, but I have no interest in looking at them. I have Burne Hogarth and Andrew Loomis's pdfs so I'm all good for study material

>>88595740
Or you could do a google search for free, there's nothing inherently wrong with using those, but I wouldn't suggest buying something you could get elsewhere for no cost

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>>88595792
don't talk shit about things you don't know about
now the fact is, due to the loose trademarking, there are garbage books (which I hold must be stealth parody) that go by that name
but the hikaru hayashi ones are legit

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>>88595824
>This

>>88595824
>get elsewhere for no cost
You're in luck
http://www.slideshare.net/literaturaycomic/more-how-to-draw-manga-vol1the-basics-of-character-drawing

>>88595843
I wasn't talking shit, I just said I didn't know that those books actually contained perspective and anatomy because I tended to avoid them. I guess I worded that a bit badly. This Hikaru Hayashi guy looks all right tho

>>88595843
That pic in particular looks ridiculous though.

>>88595934
It is a little weird isn't it He sometimes rushes. Like I love http://www.slideshare.net/hikikomoristk/how-to-draw-hayashi-hikaru-techniques-for-drawing-female-manga-characters-hentai this one, but while the bodies look fantastic, a lot of the faces kinda fail

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>>88596008
>http://www.slideshare.net/hikikomoristk/how-to-draw-hayashi-hikaru-techniques-for-drawing-female-manga-characters-hentai
>manga-characters-hentai
Oh my

>>88596037
I do believe the URL is something slideshare constructs. that isn't in the actual title. Hayashi keeps it classy.
It does have nips in it though
it also has nipples.

>>88573512
I feel like there should be something between 1st and 2nd panels, it's as if something was skipped. Maybe an introduction to what the gods do?

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Wouldn't you know it, I did a third guest comic for Beeserker, a comic you should all read because it's good.
I started this a considerable time ago, so it doesn't have my new larger canvas sensibilities, but I still think Kyatt will like it

>>88596008
A lot of that looks like garbage as anime tends to do. Study real people. Don't be lazy looking for shortcuts.

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>>88596155
Keeps it classy all right.
We all know this "water"

>>88596437
what, you reckon it's urine?
because if you think that's what cum looks like you need to go to a doctor

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>>88596437
And don't forget the "degrees of wetness"

>>88596455
I'd bet that's how he'd draw cum. The style is simplistic enough for it to work

>>88596496
ah, so you also don't know what simplifying is, got it.

>>88596517
Come on coldfusion that entire book looks like utter shite

>>88595507
Anon, the thing is right now you are drawing symbols, meaning you aren't thinking of your drawings as three dimentional forms, you just draw what you think these features should look like.

I am not sure how serious you are about learning how to draw, but if you really want to get better you should learn the fundamentals of drawing, to then stylize them.

This thing about forgetting how to draw something you once knew how to draw only happens if you never really learned how to draw the figure in the first place, you were just copying it.

Also, don't learn from "how to draw manga" books like these other guys are advising. Sure, some of them give you good advices, but that's because they are watered down versions of good books from real draftsmen. So it's better to get stuff closer to the source, instead of risking getting bad manga habits along with good advices.

More about fundamentals and practice here on the /ic/ sticky:
http://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn

Pretty good channel for learning how to draw here:
https://youtu.be/1EPNYWeEf1U?list=PLR9Qt3jv8o6P-rzSyAyKguMnueK0eK6hq

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>>88596455
>Says that stylizing cum to liquid drops doesn't look like cum
>Says an animu style where noses are fucking triangles is legit
>Logic

>>88596616
show me any manga ever where cum looks like water like that and i'll eat your probably-terrible food, mister so-called gordon ramsay

>>88596517
Anon you do realize a simplistic style doesn't necessarily mean simplification right? You do know styles can abstract or break from reality, not necessarily just simplify or exaggerate them right?

>>88596648
anon, do you realize that that guy is just bashing anime and not actually making any sense? his terrible attempt at a dirty joke failed and he refuses to admit it, just making up new reasons why "he could get away with it with that style"

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How's the coloring?

>>88596690
about as good as one could ask for the lines being so rough. Unless you mean the choice of colors, those seem fine.
I feel I must correct you on the tail though. Of everything else being as loose as it is, that thing looks kind of bad. The first three segments coming out of the body are fine, but once it (presumably) curls over the back, you want to start drawing them in front of each other, instead of behind. Even if it doesn't, segment 4 is really off in arrangement and the remaining ones seem uneven too.

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>>88596666
Yeah it definitely seems like that, but sometimes people forget styles are more than simplification. It's also about exaggeration and abstraction. Ironically it's actually a really complex skill to do and you should do it last in your artistic studies yet many people start of with stylization instead of realism. Thus, when people who've done the hard work of translating their realism into an abstracted style and have it be copied by amateurs, it makes the style look bad and thus makes the original artist look like an amatuer himself.

>>88593274
Yeah she's a sketchy one

>>88596745
I don't agree with you but I totally get where you're coming from, and I think that anon should listen to you anyway. he needs as much help as he can get.
I would just hate to see another comic that improves its technique and loses its aesthetic. If you like a certain style, there's a right way to do it. You should study the people actually producing it, instead of just studying the product.

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>>88596690
Loomis

>>88596718
Thanks for the advice on the tail m8. Usually my finished linework is cleaner, but I really just wanted to rush through a panel and test out coloring before really refining anything else.

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>>88596790
This was probably the most informative discussion on this thread.I commend you for not agreeing with my point while still not acting like tard. Well done anon.

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>>88596805
it's a cartoon, anon. loomis' fundamentals would make it look bizarre.
I'd suggest our good RGM study the cartoon masters instead
>>88596824
ah okay, if it's just a color test then don't worry. I'm pretty sure I've seen your art in these threads before and don't recall finding a ton of fault in it.

>>88596872
I'm pretty sure he was just memeing

>>88596887
exobably
but all memes contain a grain of genuine communication, and loomis certainly has wisdom to teach us

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>>88596900
>Agreed

>>88596981
Top fucking kek

>>88596872
>>88596584
Anon here seems to disagree

>>88597099
thanks for making us aware of that. without you around we wouldn't know who to fight with, and then what? getting along? agreeing to disagree? what kind of a thread would that be?

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>>88596215
Good IDEA!

I will write and draw it tomorrow.

>>88559032
Could a web cartoon ever match up to webcomic?

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How do you guys work out how to make a fitting logo for your comic? I'm pretty inexperienced at word art and I'm having a tough time.

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>>88596584
>proko
>10 years of drawing
>this is the result

>>88597307
certainly. some of them even blur the lines
Dewd does web cartoons that make me laugh my ass off because somehow the cruddiness all works together, kinda like old Doc and Mharti shit. It's basically the same as his comic but somehow I enjoy it a lot more. The voices really help.

>>88597342
first one's too blurry to read well, the second seems to have almost random parts of each letter thicker or thinner so it doesn't read well from a distance (parts of the letters bleed into the outline, which itself isn't evenly spaced around them)
'fitting' is tough, that's a creative decision you have to make.. but readable should always come first if you're doing word art.

>>88597468
Those are really useful observations actually, thanks.

>>88594705
this is something people should speak about, or should I say "Beak" about

>>88559032
I hit rock bottom, anon, I started drawing my self insert with all the girls in my comic, and I almost post it here and announce I am changing my comic into a harem comedy.

>>88597642
it's time to end yourself

>>88597664
Well, I wasn't really thinking about that. I was just feeling lonely and unwanted.

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>>88597376
>proko
>10 years of drawing
>this is the result

How do you go from this
>>88597732

to THIS
>>88597376

>>88597740
Drugs. Lots of drugs.

>>88597642
I love harems. Self-inserts are admittance that you are shit, because every harem lead is shit. Don't take it personally, though. I'm talking about harems in general yours could be different.

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>>88597740
wtf i'm never gonna make it

I get the feeling that no one is here is serious about improving their art and are just doing the bare minimum so they can shit out their story. Put in some more effort guys.

>>88597843
>/hyw/
>effort

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>>88597740
The worst part is that he recorded himself doing this. And showed it to his wife as present. On camera.
GG

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>>88597843
Anon, have you looked at One piece's art? It's shit but yet it's one of the best selling manga because the characters are memorable and enjoyable to read about in the story.

>>88597862
I'm convinced his wife is the problem. When a man tries too hard to please a woman, he starts to deviate from his own judgement in favor of what he thinks will curry her favor.

>>88597642
kill off your self insert and have the harem evolve into a polyamorous commune

>>88597899
twist: one of the girls killed him and is leading a coup to install a communist brothel under the guise of the 'polyamorous commune'

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>>88597892
Truer words have not been spoken.

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>>88597239
symbol drawing
needs more loomis

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I took your advice /co/.

Instead of just making SpookyBuugi lame jokes and punchlines, I'm going to make it an erotic smutbook

>>88597740
Proko kinda sucks at drawing from imagination, he admits he isn't very creative, and he explains he hasn't exercised this since he got into Watt's atelier. When he draws and paints he works with models to pose for him.
Also, he doesn't draw dogs. He also doesn't draw comics.

So this page was already a side thing, made very quick and lazily, and it's about something he doesn't draw, in a style he doesn't know, in a medium he has no experience with.
It's, of course, done without looking for references for dog's anatomy, so you have sketchy fundamentals, with ugly uncharismatic characters, and to put a cherry on top, it's a mess of a page layout.

Just to drive home how lazy this was done, look at how he puts this together, with a bunch of copy and paste of the same drawing:
https://youtu.be/_c-Wul92wQc?t=9m8s

Of course, it would also be less painful if the writing wasn't terrible as well.

>>88598056
beautiful redline, masterfully done. only one observation though, the lines should be red

>>88595250
That's not what they mean. You're copying things you like without understanding. Your art is flat and your character's anatomy makes no sense.

>>88598340
Isn't that name a character from psychopass

Bumpo.

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>>88591421

Hey, asshole, i dont trace, yall need to stop talking shit about me and having me to come down to this shit thread and defend myself :/

really getting annoying to be quite fucking honest

here is a sketch i made last night, completely original and not traced, every thing i draw i draw from scratch

i couldn't even trace if i tried to because ive tried to trace stuff before and it doesnt look right, i dont have the patience to sit there and perfectly trace over something that has already been drawn by someone else, fuck that, i rather draw everything myself starting with a chicken scratch doodle for the base and build my sketches and art work and comic book pages from the ground up

you people make me sick with your butt hurt jealousy tbqfh famz

>>88596805

I didn't know Loomis had drawn Transformers before.

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How the fuck do I social network? I use hashtags, I post frequently, I keep a good balance of comic updates and amusing unrelated stuff, why do people act like social networking is so important when it doesn't do anything to bring in more viewers or attention?

>>88598056
>getting this triggered by the prospect of having to learn fundamentals

>>88597512
I'm glad I can give some good advice seeing as I get such good advice in here
>>88597642
here's what you do, anon:
do it, but make it this really sad sardonic parody where you're constantly acknowledging how fucked up that is to the audience, and then make it just a sidestory thing with a twist
>>88597843
you're not acknowledging the time factor. In real life we can't do as much art as we'd like to do, at the quality we'd like to do it at. we have to compromise.
>>88604484
because they have to defend it since some part of them knows it's worthless and terrible

>>88597877

One Piece has great art though, especially the color pages.

anyone else read Sword Interval and think the last panel today had a serious lack of motion lines where they would have done wonders?

>>88608083
well it was a way to bump anyway

>>88609197
I mean.. twas worth a try..

What are some good sources for writing? Aside from FYCD

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>>88605999
I might just do it, anon. Although my cop out for this was that its all in his head, and its just his psychotic break at the end of his existential crisis. In real life he is just an orbiter that never had any meaningful interaction with these women... like me.

>>88597815
Well, I love harem too, although I think overwhelming majority of harem protags is probably much better person than I am. >>88597899
>>88597916
I don't really like that, so, sorry.

That didn't generate as much back and forth, so I'll throw in something real.

>>88610960
man maybe that's a little TOO real

>>88610878
Write About Dragons (just google it) has a bunch of interesting lectures on writing in general and spec-fic novels in particular.

>>88611013
Man this looks like useful stuff... but none of it deals with the problem I have, which is... what do you do when you have all that other stuff down but you still don't know what the fuck to write next

>>88611512
My method is to invent a basic scenario and let the character perform the scene in your head. Most of my, I'm my opinion good, scenes were done this way. Or it could be a symptom of schiz, but it works

>>88611837
ah yeah I used to do that!
but sometimes I just feel like having them stand still doing nothing.. like that one itchy and scratchy where they ran out of ideas and just shrugged
wait that was in bart's imagination. he had the same problem

>>88612178

Ok, try this, ask a question that the audience may ask. Like what is X's Father up to now that their magic children have moved out and are traveling the world?

When imagine how to answer that question for the audience. Let them do it naturally (dad goes to the bar)

>>88612512
oh yeah the GREATER stuff I can do, but the little minutiae, or how to get from point B to C... eh, I'm sure it's just brain farts and overwork

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Ok, time for another sketch comic. This time it's a little more comic-y. 1/3

I've decided that I'm too busy with the holidays and the work load from my new upcoming task at work to do anything with my artwork until next year. That said, I can continue working on the story in the meantime.

Some things i've decided about the story are things that I didn't intend to do at the beginning, and I'll be writing the entirety of the story rather than stopping after the first arc to judge it's popularity (if any). I still only have plans to draw the first arc for now, further efforts will depend on the actual effort and again popularity.

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So I've recently started coloring and my biggest problem(aside from being bad) is not knowing what else to do with a drawing. I know it can be better but I don't know how to make it better: I don't like the shading in his face but I don't know how to make it look better.

I'd like to start my webcomic in April and hoping my coloring skills won't be below deviant art tier by then. So any coloring tips?

>inb4 go to /ic/

they're mean, that's why I came here first, you guys are nicer.

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>>88613478
2/3

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>>88613516
3/3

>>88571151
whats this from?

>>88602915
>I don't trace

You're also a habitual liar.

>having me to come down to this shit thread

Case in point. We can't get rid of you.

>I drew this

And it's ugly as fuck with no sense of anatomy

>I try to trace

Thanks for at least admitting it. And yes, you fuck it up. You can't even trace properly.

>>88613505
I feel you. I've been there too. Unfortunately at this stage there's nothing that you can force that will make the drawing better. A lot of artists at your skill level want to add all sorts of little details. But that's not going to make a better picture, it's just a trap people fall into.

At this point, and you won't like hearing this, but all you can do is keep practicing. There are all sorts of small anatomy problems that add up. Think of them as wrinkles and practicing is the iron that will even them out. All good artists go through it.

As far as shading goes. Fix on a single strong point of light and where the shadows will be. There's some errors, the exposed part of the forehead, the right eye. You need to figure out where hairlines work and how the hair falls. Right now you're doing just a typical anime hairstyle, and trying to apply it to a more realistically drawn head. Again all this works out with experience.

Other big suggestion is to learn how color theory applies to shading. Don't just go with darker values than your lit areas, but use actually different cooler colors.

The best practice you can get will be to just start on the webcomic itself. It just plain forces you to get better. Yes, months later when you're a better artist, you'll look back on the first pages and wish you had been better. But that happens to all artists, and delaying the beginning never helps.

>>88613823
lotta good advice in here. however
not everything you dislike is anime, anon. that's a normal hairstyle, he's just messed up the facial features. if you took the eyes, nose, ears, and forehead down, it'd be about right. gotta remember to include the cranium when you design a face and hair

>>88613632
http://freakanimes.com/westtree/

>>88613663
>We can't get rid of you.
we rid ourselves of him for months at a time. all it takes is not replying anymore

>>88613823
>>88613879

Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate it especially the first one which is far more in depth than I thought I was gonna get.

>>88614133
it really is important to learn the fundamentals of construction, but while you're still learning that you can still learn relative-placement and that'll take you far
for example think about how short the space between a nose and mouth usually is, and how thick a moustache usually is. that's how you know how to space that shit.

>>88614133
>>88614317
>>88613879

It really is a good idea to sketch the head entirely before you add the hair, same for the body with any bulky clothes or armor.

Once you are familiar with proportions and how to check them by comparing distances between facial features, joints, muscle groups, etc. you can simplify the process by just doing a quick shape to mark the mass of the body and then go right to the hair/clothes.

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>>88613879
>not an anime hair style

Whatever you say, anon.

My art is pretty bullshit but I have a short 10 page comic I want to do. I know just enough to make designs for stuff that I crochet and that's it. Would people get ass blasted if I combined my shitty art with vectors / stock photos and different assets that I own? As I get better I'd do other stuff differently.

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>>88611000
Eh, not really, I haven't gotten into "regrets" yet.

>>88614854
why do you want to do a comic?

>>88615639
I want to tell stories. I read a lot of comics and I like the format. My art isn't awful but it's lacking, so that's my biggest barrier. If only like 10 people read it w/e I'm fine with that.

>>88616405
Well if you're willing to work on your art i'm sure it'll work out okay

>>88613551
>>88613516
>>88613478
I'll be honest those beaks are really off putting. Like really ugly. I would go back to the design stage if I were you, discard the almost horse face you have now and something appealing ... Look at Medli for example, it's not easy making a break take up half your face and at least they kinda make it work. Sorry man

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>tfw can't draw nor write and try to do both because comics look easy but I end up with garbage no one wants to read

>>88616997
>thinks that grotesque duck thing is more appealing to look at
even by the butt-ugly standards of that game she was fucking weird-looking. even by her own race's standards she was a mutant. these eaglehorses look cool

>>88616997
Hey, no worries. I'm well aware my design choices aren't everyone's cup of tea.

Humorously enough, I never liked the design of Medli and the Windwaker bird-people; but that may have been more specifically that their beak was like a nose, and they had a human mouth below it, which always struck me as really weird.

>>88617095
Haha, I guess I'm not the only one!

Glad you think they look cool. I suppose if I had to liken my designs to a particular influence, it would be Disney's bird characters, especially in something like Talespin or Ducktales (which I won't lie, I watched a lot of growing up.)

>>88617091
This is the best one yet

>>88617157
I was thinking they look a bit more like Brooklyn
though he has the opposite problem as the rito, having a beak and a nose

>>88617095
Well you're not wrong, that was a bad example. I get that it's hard to make it look good. I still don't like the horse beaks but hey it's just me >>88617121

>>88617091
what is the putty eraser for? I remember it in some art calsses as a kid

>>88617206
the sad thing is I'm usually the one saying that about a lot of people's design choices. ESPECIALLY when it comes to monsters
we're certainly entitled to our input, that's what makes the threads neat

>>88617220
same as a normal eraser but you can move the mess to the inside and keep using it

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>>88617206
>>88617227

Before I sat down to start making the big comic I have planned, I really thought about whether or not it would be better (or more accurately, more popular) if I had drawn the characters as humans (see pic.)

I came to the conclusion that it, in all likelihood, would probably be more popular if the cast was human... But on the other hand, I've been drawing bird and horse characters for many years, and most of the comic's characters for years too, and while it is fun to imagine what they'd look like as humans... I really suck at drawing human faces (esp. women) from my imagination.

Life-drawing I can manage, but since I'd be drawing all of this from my head, I figured I wouldn't stay motivated if I was fighting what I wanted to do with the comic.

If it ever gets popular after I release it, maybe someone can come up with their own human AU (with a rainbow cast of inclusiveness, naturally!)

>>88613632
http://edgyjokesforcoolteens.com/

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>>88596215

Done it!

>>88617220
>>88617401
IIRC they're also more porous, and do a better job at soaking up stick charcoal and charcoal pencil, compared to a harder eraser meant for graphite. The trade-off is that they aren't as precise, and will likely start to smudge clean paper.

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>>88617441
>rainbow cast of inclusiveness
your days are numbered degenerate

>>88617494
each other is two words, my good man
I think I'm noticing improvements in your art

>>88617527
I'm so glad /co/ is a sterling example of SJW inclusivity in action, just like tumblr--not some racist/sexist/islamophobic/non-LGBTQC++ den of evil like other places on the web!

>>88617538

Really?

I think it should be one word. I will fight America until it will become ONE word.

>>88617527
i think you got your trollings crossed. you're supposed to think the birdhorses are disgusting racemixing
>>88617612
It sure is spoken like it's one word!

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>>88597342
My method:
1. Hand-write my word in my natural handwriting in a really thick brush
2. Re-write it a little more carefully with stylistic flairs to match the tone I'm going for
3. If necessary, resize, stretch, skew, reposition
4. Make an outline of those letters
5. Color (and possibly shade) those letters as if they're just shapes in an illustration
6. Draw in some accompanying symbol or effect

This may be a terrible method depending on what you're aiming for.

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>tfw your writing/dialogue is worse than nutshack's
I actually kinda like the show. Am I hopelessly retarded?

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>>88597342
I based mine off of a font that I liked; spelling out the name, adjusting the typesetting, and then adding strokes, before finally touching it up by hand.

Then I added additional embellishment for the main logo, but sometimes I just use the logotype by itself.

>>88617652
yes

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I have a question, i want to make a story about a future where the us never creates the nuclear bomb in ww2 invades japan and annexes it.

Later the nuclear bomb is made in 2061 and the world is sent to nuclear war, where most of humanity only survives in cities that can afford domes to avoid nuclear holocaust.

The stories set in the mojave desert with los angeles being the capital, with them the big bad of the series and rebels on the outside in the desert, because the capital wont let anyone in because they think that the outsiders have become less human due to years in the wasteland.

With all that shit out my question is that if its shit or not and should it have mechs in it, using this image as a size comparison only.

>>88617986
>wanting to include the single worst aspect of TLOK

>>88617986
Sounds a little heavily inspired by FO3:NV, but with that aside, sure, why not have mechs?

Perhaps the mechs are used to construct/maintain/protect the domed cities, or are also used in reclaiming wasteland for farming or what not.

I think the key with any unusual element in a setting is making it feel like it belongs, and has a logical reason for being there (even if the actual reason is you just think it's cool.)

>>88617986
My nerd sense just wants one thing: acknowledge that nukes send out an electronics-frying EMP, giving them a secondary effect beyond the obvious human health issues.

>>88617986
I love that of all the things in this scifi story, the most unrealistic is the idea of the US invading Japan and winning.
It would sure be interesting to see things like mechs and technology in general in a world where being nippwned didn't thrust japan into inventing tons of microelectronics to sell to america. Or did it still go similarly? I have to think tech would have been retarded somewhat so that certain areas didnt develop as well. Then again, that way of thinking makes it even MORE Fallout. I don't think I'm that interested in the old "you're outside of our shelters, thus you're a subhuman mutant" concept anymore. It's one thing in fallout where radiation works on comic book rules, but in real life radiation exposure CAN fuck up your kids but generally just makes you sterile and/or dead. Then again this alternate history is perfectly set up for a situation where prejudice against outsiders with potentially slightly different genes kind of remained ingrained.

>>88618084

Yes but im just using that mech as a size comparison for the limit of how big the mechs i want to make.

>>88618095
Well one idea for why They're there is because the with no nuclear bomb, there was a path you could say for the invention of mechs that eventually a squad of 20 could overpower whole troops of men, causing a global arms race for them.

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>>88617986
>implying you can draw mechs
>implying this isn't going in idea limbo as your artistic abilities lag behind your creative vision

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>>88617681
>>88617637
thanks dudes, my tablet just broke so I think I'll have plenty of time to start messing with word art more. I'll come up with a few logos with these methods and see how it turns out.

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>>88618441

You might be right but imma still try

>>88569828
This made me hype.
Where's the rest of it?

>>88618182
>he thinks that's more unrealistic than mechs

lol

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>>88613663
>>88613916

I DONT FUCKING TRACE YOU FUCKING ANONYMOUS MONGOLOID PIECES OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>88620338

Here is a sketch im working on right now trying to perfect my head turning which i still suck at

DOES THIS LOOK LIKE TRACING TO ANY OF YOU?

WELL??????

i. dont. trace.

i. draw. EVERYTHING. from. scratch.

period.

FUCK!!!!

>>88620212
I like this,source?

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>>88620338
>>88620384

>>88596008
>Treating this as a legitimate resource.
You are a blight on anyone stupid enough to listen to you.

>>88618441
>Implying robots aren't the raddest thing to draw, ever.

I'll never understand why people are so easily intimidated by them. They're so much fun.

>>88620394
Here you go! First page:
abnor.com.br/hq/routine/

>>88620667
>Implying robots aren't the raddest thing to draw, ever.
I never implied that you idiot.

>I'll never understand why people are so easily intimidated by them
Because some people have the self awareness necessary to realize fun =/= looks good. And when you try to write a serious story paired with art that looks like a third grader's doodles, no one can take it seriously. But this is common sense, you just wanted to shoehorn in some bragging about how you love drawing mechs. Go ahead and draw some mechs for us

>>88602915
>jealousy
Of what?
Of being the most hated person on /co/?

>>88620384
>i. draw. EVERYTHING. from. period.
Fixed so it makes sense
Turns out Bones has just been bleeding out his vag this whole times.

>>88620794
The fuck are you on about?

I just chimed in because they're great fun and I notice a lot of artists get really intimidated when it comes to drawing robots.

>>88620858
>The fuck are you on about?
I quoted exact parts of your post, you know exactly what I'm "on about". Your deflection means I hit the nail on the head. Since you enjoy drawing mechs so much, show us some.

>>88613663
>>88620816
>>88620405
don't reply to bones, even if you are bones

>>88620897
No, I mean I have no idea where the fuck you're coming from with all these random accusations.

All I said is that they're fun and I don't understand why a lot of artists are so wary of drawing robots. Then suddenly you accuse me of bragging, tell me I'm a bad artist, and start talking about "serious storytelling" when I didn't say anything about that. And now I'm somehow dedlecting when I tell you I don't understand why the hell you're volleying insults at me.

Like, I'm a terrible artist. I've got no problem admitting that. If you want me to draw some robots I'll oblige, but it will have to wait since I'm nowhere near my tablet at the moment. Just don't randomly lash out at people, anon.

>>88621017
>dedlecting
Deflecting.
Thanks, phone.

>>88600487
Now it's the name of a ghost with a paper bag

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>>88620212
do something with your contrast pal. it hurts to look at your comics. otherwise its really good.

>>88622342
I disagree. Your edit isn't bad or anything, but it's "fixing" something that isn't a problem.

>>88622342
Hmmm, I think you are onto something there, but could you be more specific about what makes it hurt to look at?
Is it just that the values are too bright, or is it that my drawings are hard to read in general, and the colors are failing to make them more readable?

>>88619244
It's currently updating every Monday. As time goes on I might do two pages a week.

>>88622496
anons color scheme works with one color with many different saturations and hues. thus its hard to discern between shapes.

if you look at the big version its not so bad but if you look at the thumbnail you will see it clearer.

>>88622567
difference between your values and saturation is too small. bright is too bright and dark not dark enough.

if you go for plain backgrounds then make them distinct from characters. it makes characters pop and doesnt hurt eyes.

generaly go for darker colors. they are more pleasing and build atmosphere better than bright ones. the nautical theme you got there benefits from them immensly.

as you can see i changed color between your panels to dark one. this helps with focusing attention of the viewer on the panels.

go and look up theory on color in film. from my experience they explain the subject better.

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>>88620384

I actually finished this like 3 hours ago, lol

love the way it turned out

i colored it with digital copic markers in sketchbook pro

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>tfw the final drawing is worse than the original sketch

>>88623390
>thus its hard to discern between shapes
Not really? It's got black outlines that tell the story just fine.

>if you look at the thumbnail you will see it clearer.
Nobody reads comics zoomed out that far so I don't really see the point of caring what it looks like at that size. Comics that rely on lineart don't work very well when you zoom out so much that you can't see the lineart properly, but this is a problem in the same way that it's a problem that I can't read your post if I turn off my monitor.

>dark not dark enough
If you use dark colors with black lines, that decreases the contrast with the lines and makes the reader spend more time and effort to see what's happening.

>this helps with focusing attention of the viewer on the panels.
Readers don't need help focusing on the panels, anon. They know that's how comics work. Having white gutters between the black panel borders keeps the black of one panel from running into the blacks of other panels and creating unwanted tangents, and makes it much much harder for the reader to mistake two panels for one.

>go and look up theory on color in film. from my experience they explain the subject better.
Film is a very different beast from comics. Film doesn't have outlines, so its approach to value is totally different.
Film doesn't move at the reader's pace, so it needs to instantly guide the viewer's eye in a way that comics don't.

>>88625215
>Arguing with Coldfusion.
Please don't waste your time.

>>88622342
Holy shit this looks so much worse. kys and stop giving advice pls

>>88624593
>he never fixed the eye in the middle
I like how Bones is physically incapable of improving.

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>>88624593
>>88625536

im surprised you didnt complain about her ear! no idea what your talking about with her eye though... please explain?

why don't people learn not to reply to bones

>>88620212
I loved this page. You make just-talking so damn interesting.
Now I'm confused as fuck as to how they can have all these things like drinking and what looks like a cooking fire underwater... but..

Using GIMP to learn how to art. Which is better for final lines, pen or pencil?

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>>88625794

Wait does this ear look better? how the fuck do you draw a elf ear from two different angles? if you can see the whole ear from the front you shouldn't be able to see it the same way from the side to right?

......HELP!!!!!!!

>>88622342
>>88623390

This is the same asshole that tried to give me bad advice about my colors being to right even though DEMON JUICE is about fire demons made of light and fire and they're supposed to be bright

>>88622496
>>88622567
>>88625215
>>88625494
>>88625436

i know right? like if solid pure colors hurts his eyes or her eyes he or she seriously needs to go to a doctor or something

theres nothing wrong with these colors at all and they look great tbqh: >>88620212

>>88625867
>bad advice about my colors being to bright*

and the examples/edits he or she did of greyish saturated colors looked like shit, bad advice in my honest opinion dont listen to that saturate your colors anon!

>>88620794
>fun =/= looks good
gonna have to erase that little / there buddy, mechs that don't look good aren't fun at all, they're cringey babby shit

>>88622342
Now I can't see the backgrounds as well

>>88622342
>>88625867

bones stop arguing to yourself

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>>88587180
Updated last night, also up to date on Tapastic now.
https://tapastic.com/series/Something-You-Want

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at least the threads are more active

>>88626047
>fun =/= looks good
>mechs that don't look good aren't fun at all

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, I take it?

>>88626145
I'm up to #48. I'm loving this thing, man. cute as hell.

>>88626203
what I mean is, if you make it fun, it will look good. if you make it look good, it'll be fun. so this idea that "they're focusing on making it fun instead of making it look good" presents a false conflict. the two are a unified goal
so yes, looks good = fun. not fun = looks bad. ergo fun =/= looks good is a statement I cannot get behind

>>88626047
This. Your robot can be simple as shit, but as long as it's interesting, it's good.

Most robots are also 90% basic ass geometric shapes cut into pieces, so even a fucking moron can make a good one with enough persistence and creativity.

>>88626464
>basic ass geometric shapes
The majority of /hyw/ cannot put basic shapes in perspective for a single drawing, let alone a comic that requires multiple angle viewings of the mech.

>>88626503
You got me there, but I'm judt saying robots honestly don't require skill to design well. Look at all the robots in Dragon Quest, for example. They're almost exclusively spheres, cubes and tubes, but they look great.

>>88626464
Well the problem is WHICH geometric shapes
western artists have this ridiculous and beyond-terrible habit
>draw a hose
>draw evenly-spaced lines around its circumference
>robot limb!
Man of Action and others in that same wheelhouse do something similar where they just draw any ol' random shape, a human, whatever, and draw random angular lines on it and say now it's a robot

>>88626548
You are grossly underestimating the difficulty in drawing a mech. Observing the shapes is one thing, designing and replicating them with consistency is another. Consistent shapes in perspective is something that a good number of people on /ic/ can't even do, "someone without skill" would be completely incapable of doing it.

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>>88626133

do you have brain damage?

serious question.

That saturate your colors guy or girl is not me

>>88625867
full body concept

>>88628121
What are you bumping for? Honest question

>>88628403
I keep the thread open as I work. It's motivating.

>>88628403
my webcomic

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>>88628455
working on webcomics is a lonely task, having the thread open makes me feel less alone

>>88628684
Aye, that it is.

How would you guys go about creating lively and detailed settings? Whenever I attempt to do so, it looks pretty bare-bones and lame.

>>88629222
don't even try, it's just web comics man

>>88629222
On what level of "setting", exactly? Making a backdrop for an individual scene? Making a visual style for a fantasy universe? Implementing backgrounds in the story? Making individual panel backgrounds look good?

>>88629002
>>88628684
>he doesn't have webcomic LANs with fellow webcomic creators
>not having streaming webcomic parties and discussing ideas
losers

>>88629222
give three people dogs.

>>88629329

Even though I would like to know more about the second option, I was mostly referring to the first. Whenever I draw a background, I don't know how to begin adding various details into the scene. I mostly have trouble with this in settings that mostly feature inorganic objects like cities and such.

>>88629801
ugh this, me too
i have several methods but none of them are reliable
>look up an isometric map of the thing in question
>look up reference images of a type of place similar
>add more tiny stuff like a bug crawling up the wall or a poster on a wall or a moustache drawn on the poster with a marker

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>>88629337
that sounds extremely normie tier

i rather come here and hang out with other webcomic artist who hate my guts and will keep it real

and to see dewds stuff get posted to make my shitty stuff look fucking god like in comparison

is dewd ok?

i dont think he posted in this thread...

summoning dewd now because fuck you people! :P

>>88630066

background painted from scratch with texture brushed i made myself in sketchbook pro!

>>88629801
Probably the best advice I can give you is to look up reference images of places that are similar to what you're going for (or, even better, go there yourself and take pictures or sketch shit) and build up your visual library of interesting details that can happen in a city.
Second piece of advice is to not set your scenes somewhere non-specific. Rather than "in a city street" try "by the graffiti-covered bus stop in the bad part of town" or "by the cafes overlooking the scenic canals of the city". Try and think of the story of the place and how that story can be told to the reader.