Ray Dillon & Renae DeLiz Stiffing Thousands In Commission

I knew it those two were conman/woman. Serve them right getting their book canceled

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Based DC tossing twitter whiners to the side. On a side note:

>Continually talk shit on twitter.
>Get dumped by DC.
>Immediately get picked up by Marvel.

Like clockwork.

>>88537488
How did you know ulysses?

>>88537559
Because my premonitions told me so, now for my next reveal You will ignore this post

>>88537364
Holy hell these people are assholes

>>88537364
Fuckin lol. I knew the husband was a twat but this is great.

>four years
And I thought brothers who did Star Command were scammers.

>>88537364
wew
DC dodged a bullet here

How long until marvel gives them a d-lister book?

Too bad. I actually liked their digital series, but this is shit behavior.

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>Just in case you guys forgot, you can send us money!
>We're using it to publish our female-centric comic!

>>88537364
Well, to be fair, Renae DeLiz is very smart and funny

>>88539038
Pretty Sad.

>>88537572
Tony was right

>>88539127
Go away, Cartman

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>>88539336

What's sad is that Legend of Wonder Woman is legitemately one of the absolute best Wonder Woman stories of all time.

>>88539541
Did they make any book for dc before that?

>>88537544
Marvel loves con men.

I found the Go Fund Me pretty shady because I wouldn't assume, despite there not being a lot of money in comics, that they were living hand-to-mouth in that sense as an established duo. And I would not imagine the book was cancelled on them in a way that put them there unless they were very financially irresponsible.

>Steve Dillon dies
>Ray Dillon still lives

You guys killed the wrong Dillon

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>>88539802
I am Sorry Anon, i was hungry.

>>88539802
STEVE DILLON DIED!??!

Rip lazy master of the same-face

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>>88539976
He knew

>>88539541
Sucks that Wonder Woman apparently has no good stories then

>>88539989
You can see the exact moment he decides to stop trying midway through Preacher because he knew he'd never have to work again.

Anyone got caps of that chick hatibg on the dude for getting the gig?

I started making comics 5 years ago and paid Ray 1,000 dollars to complete a 22 page issue comic. I received 5 pages over 2 years with every single excuse you can imagine, including months of ‘I didn’t get your e-mail' I'd be more than happy to share every piece of communication with you Bleeding Cool if you'd like it. [email protected] to get a hold of me. This practically killed my small comic, 1,000 was all I had saved up when I first started making comics. Holy fuck http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/12/19/the-ballad-of-ray-dillon-and-renae-de-liz/

>>88539989
This is honestly the funniest thing I've read all week

I like how Ray speaks for both of them.

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>>88540312
Pretty sure Renae is locked in a basement somewhere forced to draw between rapings.

>Last week, we reported on DC Comics’ decision to cancel the Legend Of Wonder Woman. And how, internally at DC, they were putting it down to creators Renae De Liz and Ray Dillon posting less-than-complimentary tweets about other Wonder Woman projects from DC Comics, and a Mary Sue article which brought them greater publicity. Although all these examples were deleted, and the article edited, we were able to resurrect a number of them.

>It may also be worth considering that DC Comics hadn’t publicised Legend Of Wonder Woman much as the first hardcover was coming out, which may have caused tension and aggravation. If nothing else, this furor has gathered the book considerable publicity.

>It also brought back issues to the fore that a number of people have had with the couple over commissions, Kickstarter donor rewards and orders. It’s an issue Bleeding Cool has covered before, highlighting Ray Dillon’s issues back in 2013, which even then already went back into the noughties. There are also still complaints from those who didn’t receive what they were promised on the Kickstarter for the Womanthology comic, which we also highlighted back in 2013.

>Well, people still don’t have copies and very occasionally say so on the Kickstarter comments page. There is only a handful of them, however.

>This is a promise on top of a number of promises that they would be sent out in the next few weeks. Some have now approached the authorities as a result. Their unfinished commission list goes back eight years, even when they are taking new sketch commissions for hardcover copies of LOWW. As a result, some are taking the chance to suggest that, as the GoFundMe project went well over the $2000 requested, now over $5000, they might consider repaying debts. Such as to sketch card dealer Rachel Ahrendes, who dealt with Renae years ago when she was principally a sketch card artist.

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>>88540245
In his defense, how could you not trust this face?

>That’s one down. More to come? Because people have been refunded before – but only some of them.

>I was glad to see the GoFundMe page set up and do so well. Because it demands nothing of the recipient. No books that won’t be sent, or commissions that won’t be drawn, it’s plain and simple. Give them money and expect nothing back. But taking orders of items when the unfulfilled list is still so long is problematic, if the scale of the current situation and backlog is not made clear.

>They are both very talented creators, whose work has been proved critically, and who do take risks in the kind of material they create. But as businessmen, when it comes to managing their schedules and commitments, they suck, and this sometimes means they drag other people down with them. So if you are going to get involved, bear this in mind. The work may well be spectacular. But you may well have to wait a Scary Godmother Doll-amount of time…

>And for some people that will be worth it.

>>88540245
Email Rich. He has his info on his site

>>88540392
>>It may also be worth considering that DC Comics hadn’t publicised Legend Of Wonder Woman much as the first hardcover was coming out, which may have caused tension and aggravation. If nothing else, this furor has gathered the book considerable publicity.
yeah why didn't these guys who did a digital webcomic get as much advertising hype as grant morrison's take on wonder woman with art by paquette

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>If you are waiting on work from De Liz or Dillon, it’s a good time to get in touch with them. Feel free to cc in [email protected] if you think it will help.

>As one BLeeding Cool reader writes, it can be quite some time:

>>Basically, I commissioned Renae for 1 Marvel Dangerous Divas Artist Proof and 2 quick sketches back in 2011. Paid over 300 usd and consistently followed up with Ray as Renae does not want to be bothered by emails. I also did everything they asked from sending to a different email address to filling up a Google excel sheet online. Ray’s excuses range from “Renae is pregnant” to “Renae is busy” to “Renae is sick” to “it’s already done and we will mail it tomorrow” to “it was forgotten and we will work on it” to the “mail was returned to us, make sure your address is correct” and so forth. They eventually stopped replying to any emails.
>>I also purchased an artbook with sketch from Renae like in 2009 or 2010 which was my first transaction to Renae but I never received it and thought that maybe it was just lost in the mail since they claimed that it has been sent but no tracking. I didn’t mind it too much then cause I was under the assumption that they were honest people but I now realize that this might as well be a con.
>>I stopped with sketch card collecting mainly because of this reason. There are a number of artists that are just too difficult to deal with and does not fulfill their promises.

pic fucking related, these are apparently some of the emails sent

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/12/19/the-ballad-of-ray-dillon-and-renae-de-liz/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#comment-anchor

They need to work on finishing all this shit before they even begin another big two project because wtf

>>88537364
Holy shit, these people are scum.

>>88540432
That anon copypasted a comment from Bleeding Cool's comments section.

>>88539989
God bless that beautiful franking bastard.

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>>88540475
>Warm up sketch should be done...
>Warm up sketches are probably done...
>Got your message now. Hurricane Irene hit us.
>Trying to figure out a schedule...
>Womanthology ran over schedule....
>I believe everything was sent at the end of last week...
>Oh yeah, please give me your address...
>I have your address and will get it out to you as soon...
>I just found all these e-mails in spam...
>I understand trying really hard to get a hold of me...
>Sorry, switched Mail program...
>Actually,m should should maybe have those larger pieces now...
>Okay, looks like they didn't go out with the last batch...
>Not sure how the mailing system works in Singapore...
>I'll look into it, we're in the middle of shipping...
>Our Inboxes are...
>She's finishing it up now, so should have it to your soon...
>You got your cards, right?
>I'm just about certain your commissions were finally sent...
>So your post on Scoundrel. I was under the assumption that you had...
>We're shipping out comissions and found a few older pieces...
>So very sorry that I just left you hanging...

>>88537364
Ok, so from what I understand

>female writer is working on WW book
>said writer wanted to write another WW book but got rejected
>writer's husband starts bitching so much at DC to let her write the book she wanted DC cancelled the book she was working on

>>88540830
They where actually working on the cancelled book together.

>>88540830
No, they wanted more work in general and were pissed they weren't getting more similar projects with other characters. And that LoWW vol 2 wasn't announced soon enough

Pretty quick how people turned on Dillon and De Liz. I swear if it wasn't for how much DC has so much goodwill with Rebirth now it'd be the opposite

>>88540830
They worked on the book together with him co plotting and coloring, and they had already got the go ahead to write a sequel months ago.

He just couldn't keep his mouth shut and shat on the other Wonder Woman books that were happening and their creators, and the mary sue put the tweets in an article. He then tried to get rid of them but dc already saw them so they dumped them and the book.

Then she made a few twitter posts about losing the book and it did sound sad cause they had 3 kids and nobody knew why it was dead, other than possibility of low sales for the first vol. Then the gofundme was set up and they sold some of the vol 2 sketches.

And now it's coming out that they've been stiffing people as well as bitching about other creatives so they're unprofessional as well as scum.

>>88540934
Dillon was being a bit of a twat about it

>>88540934
Lots of people knew Dillon and De Liz were asshats on twitter and were iffy in supporting them. This is just the final nail in their coffin. You might be confusing /co/ with plebbit were negative news about creators get downvoted despite being true.

>>88540934
Dillon attacked Morrison and a black guy. That coupled the scamming of people's money.

His dumbass fate was sealed.

>>88540934
well before people didn't know they were both little bitch scam-artists

>>88540941

the hilarious thing about all that is that they're pissed about not getting more work when they cant even keep up with the commisions they already have from 6 years ago.

theyre either fucking scumbags, or just parents in over their heads with no fucking time to work and are just pretending, either way its shady as fuck.

>>88541158
They're irresponsible fucks. They quilted people into sending them money by saying they have another baby on the way. Use a fucking condom, you disgusting pieces of shit! If you're both working in this industry and don't have a stable income then don't whine about not being able to pay your bills over the holidays and then mention your children. Fuck you!

>>88541158
imagine all the extra time they would have it they weren't constantly bitching on twitter

>>88541214
anon why be a responsible parent when you could follow your dream instead?

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Lucky that DC got rid of those swindlers.
>mfw

>>88540384
I was really surprised that Tim Burton directed that movie, it was downright normal.

>>88541214
>constantly scam people of money
>comaplain when your boss doesn't do thing fast enough ON TWITTER
>get dumped and cry crocodile tears
>lmao third baby!
Jesus christ, these people ought to get their kids taken away. You can't just keep pumping out units and screwing people over while you screw each other. You can't even afford to raise two kids as a mediocre writer/artist combo unless you're living off parents somehow or stealing from people.

Fucks sake, how have they not been completely blackballed from the industry for this bullshit.

>>88541214
To be fair, I'd be porking De Liz all the time if I had the chance too.
>>88540399

>>88541454
Fourth baby.

I can see them at Image soon.

>>88541497
But they don't have to vaginafuck all the time!

>>88541408
Was it GOOD tho?

>>88541571
I enjoyed it. Christopher Waltz is one of my favourite actors, and he does a great job as Walter.
It's not exactly a rollercoaster, but it kept me engaged.

>>88541497
It's called a fucking condom. A new and daring new inventions that allows you to fuck a woman without risking a pregnancy. Or an ancient tibetan monk technique called pulling out.

>>88540934
I think with literal evidence of shitfoolery its hard to not call shits shit.

>>88539541
if you are easily impressed

>>88541497
>not porkin her on the butt
also would help with the problem of her sitting on her ass on all that backlog of commissions

>>88541917
>you've been sitting on your ass for too long
>i'll make sure you'll never be able to again
I swear I've seen that in a dounjin or porn.

>>88542064
doujin I can believe. Western porn isn't that creative.

>>88542178
Western Porn has more furries and fetishes, they're more degenerate.

I wonder what that man hating, racist Raysonne has to say about this?
>Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!
Did someone reply to her comments or something? Looks like she deleted her twitter.

>>88542250
She probably got banned. Or maybe sued by the guy she harassed.

>>88542250
Is she the one who went a huge rant against the new Amazon comic's writer?

>>88540475
>>88537364
what an absolute coward.

>>88542751
He almost got away with it too

>>88537364
I feel kind of sorry for Dillon. It's obvious the guy is a supreme beta who's wife is running (and ruining) his life for her own ego and he's too much of a pussy to actually take a stand against her. This is like an Allison Rapp/Jake Rapp situation all over again.

>>88543051
He already did.

>>88543666
He's still the one who bitched on twitter about the upcoming mini and WWEO

Though she bitched about not having a sequel earlier but at least she kept the other people out of itt

>>88543705
I'm aware of that. He's being a little bitch because he is a little bitch. I guarantee you that she's incredibly domineering and he basically isn't allowed to have thoughts, hobbies or anything like that of his own.

>>88543666
nah. its more Ray then Renae.

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>>88537364

>>88543830
honestly it more sounds like Dillon is the idiot who whiteknights for his wife because he's so attached to the hip with her. i doubt she asks him to act like a raging moron online on her behalf.

>>88539541
Not even fucking close.

>"You owe me money"
>lol he's just a troll and owes me money
>*posts emails*
>okay your claim is legit
jesus, what a cuck

>>88540579
Perfect

>>88543909
This

This ended up being more entertaining than I thought it'd be.

>>88543666
>the man can do no wrong, it's obviously the woman pulling the strings.

They're both clearly assholes, step it up Satan.

>>88543666
It looks like Ray's pulling the strings here. He's the one giving out all the reasons and shitposting on twitter about other people's work.

>>88540245
Sounds like a bargain. He quoted me $600 to do a simple, half-page, black and white illustration.

>>88548855
>This ended up being more entertaining than I thought it'd be.
True

>>88551736
You would have just given him 600 bucks and had nothing.

>>88543694
Damn

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Now the Guardian newspaper has picked it up. And they managed to get an actual quote out of DC Comics.

>The critically acclaimed, Eisner-nominated comic series The Legend Of Wonder Woman has been cancelled by DC Comics, because of what a spokesperson for DC called “a challenging relationship” with the husband and wife team behind the series.

And that

>The DC spokesperson told the Guardian that though “we loved the book and we were very excited to work on the collected volume”, the studio was concerned about Dillon’s public comments about other teams at DC on social media.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/dec/20/wonder-woman-writer-artist-ray-dillon-renae-de-liz-dropped-dc-relationship

>>88537364
all sjws are the same

they're all criminals

>>88554217
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA..

AHAHAHAHAHAAHA.

>>88554243
Criminals and rubes. "Listen and believe" is the mating call of the con artist and there are those who pretend it isn't and those who are dumb enough to believe it isn't.

>>88543666
It looks like literally the exact opposite.

>>88546046
>>88540038
>>88541914

Not sure if samefagging or if there are just a lot of simple-minded autists here who think a person can't be an asshole AND make good comics.

>>88554470
Or shocking fact people have different opinions. Really weird how that works

>>88554470
In this case, it's hard to know if the comics are good since you're too much of an asshole to deliver, Ray.

>>88554217
Holy shit.

>>88554217
What a shock.
They're liars and difficult to work with, a fact anyone who commissioned or pledged to one of their crowd funded scams could have already told you.

>>88554217
>Artist Ray Dillon and writer Renae De Liz had created nine issues of The Legend of Wonder Woman, telling the story of the Amazonian from her origins on the planet Themyscira to arriving on Earth to become a superhero.

i didn't actually read the book. did they seriously change themyscira to another planet or is this just main stream media getting comics absurdly wrong?

>>88554779
The Guardian is a rag, they're wrong. It was an update of golden age Wonder Woman, no extreme lore changes.

>>88554805
I can see why it was well received then.

>>88554217
Hahahaha awkward

>unprofessional in real life
>unprofessional online
>stiffed a few people out of books and comissions

I wonder how difficult it was for DC to get any timely work out of them.
It's known you usually have to be 2 of the 3: very good, very fast, very kind to other professionals and higher ups. They don't have the last one and some of their excuses for stiffing people are they aren't very fast either, lol.

>>88555701
>I wonder how difficult it was for DC to get any timely work out of them.
You don't make DChads angry, anon.

>>88555763
>DChads take turns drilling Renae
>put up with her and her husband's shitty attitude
>one of them knocks her up
>DC fires Ray and Renae
Fucking DChads...

>>88555857
I'd commission that, but you know...

DC should really work on being less sensitive to twitter outbursts. Like seriously.

>>88554217
Owwwwh

>>88556401
why?

>>88556401
Slott pls go

>>88556858
Because there's literally no benefit for them other than attracting some bad press.

Like I'm not saying that DC is in the wrong here or that DeLiz and Dillon shouldn't have expected this treatment after their actions, but if DC had just shrugged their shoulders and carried on literally nothing bad would have happened, and they'd have had another critically acclaimed book Wonder Woman book in a few months.

If it's of no cost to you, why not be the bigger man?

>>88557032
Because the creative team was trying to damage the brand of another one of their books.

>>88537364
Social Justice and "hire female creators", "more diversity", etc, is a code word for "Hire this person I know".

It's a gang extortion scheme.

>>88557032
>If it's of no cost to you,
Dillon and De Liz were breeding their fans to only like their work and they were training sad fans to hate DC but love their work. DC is interested in selling more than 1 title. Toxic and unprofessional behavior like that should not be tolerated, it's funny when you consider the fact that if they were to keep their mouths shut they'd definitely be working on LoWW 2 right now.

As for awards, don't make me laugh. Fucking Squirrel Girl is an Eisner winner. And awards don't mean shit for the publisher anyway.

>>88555701
Ray is alot like Diaz. A shameless self promoter.
This is effective in getting them new work constantly.

I kindof despise Diaz. But, I'm fairly neutral with Ray.
I think alot of this story is likely overblown. The constant shameless self promotion, results in stepping on toes, biting off more then they can chew, and bad blood. but, really its kindof required to be successful as a freelance artist.


Renae for those looking for SJW bogie-women, is pretty feminist-lite. She IS one, but mostly ill-informed, and sheltered, moreso then an actual radical nutcase we see so often.
But yeah, Ray is full on white knight. its possible to have adult conversations with Renae, but not so with Ray.

If nothing else, how many times have you/we said, "stop asking for everyone else to change, if you want comics catering to your ideology, make your own."? That is exactly what they do.

>>88557080
I doubt a couple of Dillon's tweets could damage anything, just as they didn't do a damn thing for WW: Earth One.

>>88557202
>>88557195
Here come the shills!

>>88557153
They were a couple of tweets man. DC gets showered with a million times worse on a daily basis.

>>88557217
>Oh no! People don't think like I do!
I don't really know a thing about either of them. Mostly I'm just bitter we're not getting another LOWW.

>>88557283
>People don't like bad people!
Fixed, Ray.

>>88557331
I never said they weren't tho.

>>88557339
Ssh, it's OK Ray, surely marvel would love to hire you and your hen.

>>88557283
>They were a couple of tweets man.
It's unprofessional, is what it is. And the fact that a literally who thinks he can questionbDC's decision to hire people for other projects is retarded. You're freelance, stop trying to run the company. Let's not even get into the delusion that he seriously compared himself to Grant Morrison.

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>>88557434
>he seriously compared himself to Grant Morrison.
Sauce?

>>88557434
I get that. Like I said, I'm not saying DC is wrong or that they're right. I'm saying it costs DC nothing to let such things slide.

>>88557477
It was costing them, they were paying these hacks for a mediocre project while they were desperately trying to start a cult following. Also, if you're so unprofessional then you don't deserve to get work.

>>88557195

>I'm fairly neutral with Ray

He and his wife owe tens of thousands of dollars to various people some of which go back 10 years. They're scumbags.

>>88557533
You are absurdly overblowing the impact of, like five tweets over six or so months. DC didn't loose a thing over it.

>>88557598
It's not just about the tweets, numbnuts. They oww people thousands of dollars in art, and you never know the behind the scenes stuff, like being difficult to work with, or them maybe trying to turn creators against DC, you never know what's discussed behind the scenes. But some of those tweets are childish, people that are entitled like that simply don't deserve to work. Maybe if they were amazing I'd understand putting up with their shit, but they're mediocre, entitled, irresponsible thieves.

>>88557598
Yea but they gained by helping expose them as scumbags

>>88557598
Oh boy, the day you have a job.

>>88557557
>They're scumbags.
It's OK, their fanbase are scumbags too.

>>88557788
They didn't owe DC anything so that wasn't DC's problem. The rest is kinda total conspiracy theory level. I mean it's possible, but on the other hand DC being specifically thin skinned about twitter criticism has been an established fact since they fired McDuffie in like 2009.

>>88557803
I doubt they gained anything.

>>88557916
>I will defend a criminal to spite DC
lol

>>88557283
>They were a couple of tweets man. DC gets showered with a million times worse on a daily basis.

There's a difference between fans insulting DC on a regular basis and professionals insulting DC on a regular basis, though.

>>88557916
>wasn't DC's problem.
Doesn't matter. You shouldn't give work to thieves. Childish behavior and stealing should not be encouraged.

>>88557916
Fuck off Ray you piece of shit.

>>88557916
What they did to McDuffie was wrong yeah because he didn't even criticize anything, he was just stating how things were matter-of-factly.
These people got what was coming to them though.

>>88557976
>Childish behavior and stealing should not be encouraged.
Saying such things in a board full of millennials. Tsk tsk.

>>88557916
>>88558012
/co/, remember that it was you and Rich that killed Dwayne. Stop blaming others.

>>88557962
Professionals insult DC on a relatively regular basis too though. Granted, not DC's own professionals, but still.

I mean this is the week when the UN told DC to fuck off. That must have stung a million times more.

>>88558076
>Granted, not DC's own professionals, but still.
well see there's the difference
dc can refuse waid a project if he keeps shitting on them on twitter

>>88558076
UN bowed to pressure from body shamers, they have nothing against DC.

>>88558076
>Professionals insult DC on a relatively regular basis too
Sauce? Besides your ass, of course.

>>88556085
>Didio furiously fucking her from behind
>"So, you want more women in comics, do ya? DO YA?"
>Geoff Johns is getting his dick sucked while eating cereal out of the box
>Johns blasts her face with a thick cumshot and the laughs uncontrollably while half chewed cereal gets stuck on her face
>from the corner Snyder's eyebrow lifts
>He approaches but can't reach her mouth with his dick
>Didio still pumping away
>Looking for a chair, Snyder runs into Brother Capullo
>Capullo grabs Snyder by the scruff of his shirt, De Liz by the back of her head and starts face fucking her with his hobbit
>Snyder cums deep inside her throat
>Didio drops his load inside her pussy
>Cappullo starts face fucking her and cums deep down her throat
>She looks back to see Humphries fucking her ruined pussy with his little pecker
>He pulls out and cums in her hair
>King is fucking her now while staring off into the distance and smiling
>Lobdell puts his dick in her mouth and starts monologuing
>30 minutes later and Lobdell is still monologuing
>They push him away as Ivan Reis and Jason Fabok spitroast her and high five ever 90 seconds
>Dillon has been in the corner all this time jacking off and crying
>Mahnke punches a door through the wall and enters the room
>skull fucks De Liz and gives Dillon a friendly smack over the shoulder which ends up dislocating it

>>88557598
They stood to lose reputation as a employer if they simply ignored employees acting unprofessionally.

>>88558111
Well he did say
>Granted, not DC's own professionals,

So I assume he's talking about Mark Waid or similar. In which case, his point is defeated by the fact that Waid's not working for DC at this time.

>be an employee
>have a Twitter account with my name
>one day write, "my boss is an asshole" and "my work mates are imbeciles"
>get fired
>cry about it in /co/
>some NEET says, "gee, why are they so thin-skinned?"
T-thanks, anon?

>>88558112
>DC publishes the book
>it sells a billion
Fund it.

>>88558112
But what about Palmiotti & Conner?. They must have done some weird shit

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>>88558112

>>88558129
Man, outside of /co/ DC's reputation as a marginally less shit employer than Marvel is pretty well established.

>>88558129
If only Marvel had realized this.

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>>88537364
>stiffing thousands for almost a year on commissions
>still professional artists and still employed

>mfw furry porn vendors on internet shitholes are more reliable than professional """artists"""

kek

>>88539989
The absolute madman

>>88554217
>DC outright confirming they dropped the pair because they were talking shit, instead of giving some bullshit PR excuse

Fuckin' rekt

>>88558355
The only thing that would make this schadenfreude story sweeter would be Marvel putting them on a z-list book that never gets made because the two never deliver the pages.

>>88557916
Do we actually know that they fired them specifically over the tweets?

>>88559986
see
>>88554217

>>88559986
Over the tweets and probably a lot more that isn't public yet.

"Challenging Relationship" covers a lot of ground.

>>88560078
>probably a lot more that isn't public yet
Tel us, Rich.

>>88560078
Honestly, I can see DC firing them over the tweets if they weren't professional enough, if only to nip the problem in the bud. One of the problems Marvel seems to have is that their writers shoot their mouths off on Twitter, then they get in shit. DC there seems to be very little of that.

>>88560202
>One of the problems Marvel seems to have is that their writers shoot their mouths off on Twitter, then they get in shit.

IIRC they don't usually shoot their mouths off at Marvel itself. The only exceptions I can think of are Ales Kot and Robbi Rodriguez.

>>88560202
>read a Marvel contract
>"Clause 26253446: the employee will be a dick online"
>read a DC contract
>"Clause 47263547: the employee will not be a dick online"

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>>88558112
>>30 minutes later and Lobdell is still monologuing
This got me the most

>>88560202
bitching about the company you work for in public has always been a stupid idea and has gotten people fired since business started. The problem now is instead of it just happening at Office parties or the random overheard conversation Twitter basically lets the entire world overhear anything you say so the odds it's going to get back to your bosses is basically 100%

>>88557477
It sends the message that this behaviour is alright though. Which gives other creators the message that they can throw shitfits too.

bump so more people know about the scumbags

>>88560799
No one gives a fuck if you do it in a bar, it's completely different when you do it online where everyone can read what you say. I hated my job. My managers and coworkers knew for fucking months. They didn't care. I did my job I didn't bitch about it online like a fucking moron.

>http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/12/20/renae-de-liz-talks-about-her-relationship-with-dc-comics-and-the-cancellation-of-the-legend-of-wonder-woman/

>>88563746
Cool

>>88554217
Didn't Dillon say on cbr or something a couple of days ago that it wasn't because of their online conduct? Liars gonna lie I guess.

>>88565283
Well he lied to a lot of people via email about books and commissions so it's not out there that he'd lie about why dc dumped them.

>>88567029
Just look at the exchange with Scott Massino in the OP where he goes from "Actually, you're the troll who owes me money and a liar who wants to ruin our lives" to "You're not a troll, you have a legitimate claim" after emails are threatened to be shared.

>>88564071
>We are not bad people, we didn’t know we were…er…”poo-ing” where we ate and weren’t roving around DC like a couple ungrateful, mindless rebels. We just missed information somewhere which led to us choosing honesty instead of the expected compliance.
So it was Dillon tweeting like a jackass then. Good to know.

>>88558208
Who do you think is filming everything?

>>88567303
>honesty
>EARTH ONE AND ODYSSEY OF THE AMAZONS ARE SHIT, THOSE BOOKS SHOULD HAVE GONE TO US OR PEOPLE WHO SIGNAL THE SAME VIRTUES WE DO LIKE KEKA
My interpretation is a bit more honest than they were.

>>88567417
Pretty much

>>88541214
Being pregnant doesn't render you incapable of sitting on your ass and drawing. Christ I know some artists spit out a kid and never skipped a comic update.

>>88568526
By her own definition she said it was a difficult pregnancy.

>>88540475

Man, after seeing so many horror stories a huge red flag always pops up for me when I see "in dire straits, opening commission list."

Of course it's not always the case but a lot of times you're not getting jack shit.

>>88539989

fuck :(

>>88568920
I miss him already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSb7mlz7Hag .

>>88538092
Yup

>>88540414
Just

>>88554470
Or maybe it's just that you think they're somehow better than Perez or Marston (who is actually fucking amazing)

>>88557032
except they were completely right here and blew these people the fuck out. Twitter outbursts are the sign of an unprofessional (wo)manchild. If you can't go rant in an anonymous space like a normal asshole then you definitely cannot handle working at a major company.
Name one time slamming down a twitter ranter has negatively effected DC, I'll wait.

>>88557283
>DC gets showered with a million times worse on a daily basis.
Not from their own creators you fucking retard

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>>88558112
>starts face fucking her with his hobbit
This is where I lost it.

>>88574231
With every year older I get, I appreciate Didio a little bit more.

>>88537364
And here I thought the Finches were the worst couple working in comics.

>>88540245
Do you have contract and a deadline?

>>88574231
Based

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Hilariously, Ray Dillion will show up on Bleeding Cool just to like posts calling DC "petty".

>>88557153
>Fucking Squirrel Girl is an Eisner winner
which year?

It's impressive how DCfans care more about defending the "integrity" of their company than actual quality works.

>>88576978
>t. Ray

>>88540399
These people look like they have plenty of money.

This is a shame since they're both talented and nice in person.

>>88554217
>Nigel Farage accuses Jo Cox widower of supporting extremism.

Well, that makes no fucking sense.

>>88576885
AHAHAHA Holy shit, this can't possibly be real.

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>>88578373
Not only is it real, but I moused over it to confirm it is, in fact, him and not some troll using his avatar or some such nonsense.

He's clearly learned nothing.

>>88578428
Damn

>>88543909
Marvel has hired them? For what? I can't find sources on that. It sounds like a /co/ meme they believe it's true.

>>88580212
Renae and Ray simply made claims that Marvel and IDW reached out to them.

There's nothing but their word that it happened.

>>88580320
Yeah but with all their scams coming to light I don't think even Marvel will touch them.

>>88580355
A "reach out" can mean anything or nothing.
It was also claimed before the shit storm and the real story came out.

They immediately followed up with talks about doing another creator owned project, after all.

More likely it was just a strategic lie to draw attention to themselves, and boost their appeal to other publishers.

>>88539976
I know, I had no idea until I saw the memorial page they did for him in one of the DC comics I'd been putting off reading because I was busy with Christmas stuff.
Really sad.

>>88580545
So /co/ claims that marvel will hire scam-artists althought
1-We don't know that marvel has hired them and
2-If they hired them, they did it before the scam news were out.
Yeah fuck you guys.

>>88576964
Does it matter?

>>88580320
They're liars though or they're hoping that fans will tweet at marvel wanting to give them a book

>>88580947
Right.
Marvel won't confirm or deny because that would be perceived as "taking a stance" on the situation.

for all anyone knows someone who happens to work at Marvel said "Sorry to hear that" to them.

>>88580639
I don't see her in the 2016 winners, so apparently he's just saying random shit.

>>88582639
Was it nominated but didn't win?

>>88537364
>ordered the book when my wife was pregnant
>now my son is three !

Holy kek

>>88537364
>Only starts responding/fulfilling their obligations once the complaints go public

Typical. If you're the one getting shafted this should be your first move after waiting weeks/months for a response. Go on social media and spread that shit. It's the only way you'll get them to stop ignoring you.

>>88537364
Shame cause I really liked LoWW

Maybe it's just him who is the shit?

>>88586089
She's the one not delivering on all those commissions.