SUPERBRO IS BACK Post the rest of the super solicits also >ACTION

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SUPERMAN #18

Written by PETER J. TOMASI and PATRICK GLEASON—Art and cover by PATRICK GLEASON and MICK GRAY —Variant cover by GARY FRANK

“SUPERMAN REBORN” part one! In DC UNIVERSE: REBIRTH #1, the enigmatic Mr. Oz told this Superman, “You and your family are not what you believe you are. And neither was the fallen Superman.” Now, in the first Rebirth crossover between SUPERMAN and ACTION COMICS, the shocking truth behind Oz’s words is revealed. It begins with one of Oz’s prisoners escaping, and ends in a tragic moment for Lois and Superman.

* The covers by Patrick Gleason and Mick Gray and the variant covers by Gary Frank for SUPERMAN #18-19 and ACTION COMICS #975-976 will connect to form a single vertical image.

On sale MARCH 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T

>>88442956
Hmmmm...I don't know how to feel about this. So there will just be two supermen?

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ACTION COMICS #975

Written by DAN JURGENS—Backup story written by PAUL DINI—Art by DOUG MAHNKE and JAIME MENDOZA—Backup story art by IAN CHURCHILL—Cover by PATRICK GLEASON and MICK GRAY—Variant cover by GARY FRANK

“SUPERMAN REBORN” part two! Celebrating our 975th issue with a supersize special as another layer of the Superman/Clark Kent mystery is exposed! And in a backup story written by Paul Dini with art by Ian Churchill, learn what it all means for the Son of Superman, who is the prize in a deadly game!

* The covers by Patrick Gleason and Mick Gray and the variant covers by Gary Frank for SUPERMAN #18-19 and ACTION COMICS #975-976 will connect to form a single vertical image.

#975 on sale MARCH 8 • 48 pg, FC, $3.99 • RATED T

>>88442956
should have give pre 52 the trunk back

>>88442974
>variant covers by Gary Frank
Nice.

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SUPERMAN #19

Written by PETER J. TOMASI and PATRICK GLEASON Art and cover by PATRICK GLEASON and MICK GRAY—Variant cover by GARY FRANK

“SUPERMAN REBORN” part three! In the penultimate chapter of this tale the life of Superman’s son hangs in the balance—and the Man of Steel faces the truth about his life!

* The covers by Patrick Gleason and Mick Gray and the variant covers by Gary Frank for SUPERMAN #18-19 and ACTION COMICS #975-976 will connect to form a single vertical image.

On sale MARCH 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T

>>88442956
>Superdad and Superbro are Superman Red & Blue
These people are lunatics and then need to be stopped

They'll merge Superbro with Superdad. You can see that they're pulling a Red Superman and Blue Superman thing with both.

>>88443025
I like how they act like we'll think Jon will die at all when they just gave him a new series.

>>88442956
I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU FAGGOTS IT WOULD HAPPEN SINCE REBIRTH STARTED!

>>88442956
Oh thank God. I might actually start buying Superman comics again!

Oh, man. We're going back to the awful SM/WW pairing, won't we?

I hope that instead they push Superbro with Lana. They made a cute couple in Greg Pak's Action Comics run.

>>88442956
It was obvious when they revealed that the name of this Superman Crossover
Anyway good for Superbro, I thought they would wait another year before resurrecting him. However I guess he won't stay for long

>>88443083
I liked it.

>>88442991
Superbro will be like Kal-L

>>88443034
>Superdad is married for years with a kid
>merges with Superbro, a different incarnation of him with completely different memories and experiences

Seems a bit distasteful.

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>>88443001
>Paul Dini
>Writing Jon

YESSSSSS

YEEEEEESSSS

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>88443126
And cheats on Lois with Diana.

>>88443092

I think that they'll merge and reboot both Superman's past. Show how their past would be like if they were one and the same.

I doubt DC will keep two Supermen around.

>>88443108

SM/WW? Because that was awful and the main reason they killed Superbro off.

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>Superman Red/Superman Blue
>again
When we'll get Superman Gold/Silver?

I think Superman will be retconed as the Nu52 sups and Superbro will be...idk...

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>>88443001
>975
We are getting close

>>88443083
Lana? One in relationship with Steel? That Lana?

>>88443126
>>88443146

If they do in fact merge, DC will probably give them a new origin. Superbro and Superdad's past will change once merged.

This way we gain a new origin where the new and improved Superman was always there and haply married with Lois, Jon will be around, the Kents will probably come back and Superbro's relationship with Wonder Woman is erased for good.

>>88442956
I'm okay with them merging as long as Jon doesnt die. If Jon is revealed to just be a piece of Superman thatd suck.

>>88443109
This, dunno why people are referring to Red/Blue.

Superbrofags will be disappointed when he's minor as fuck.

And like that the Superman books are back on my pullist

>>88443232
At least he would be back.

>>88443211
This would be fucking retarded

>>88443199

Yes, Bendis.

They won't make Superbro and his Lois a couple, since you already have Superdad married with older Lois.
They won't make Superbro go back to Wonder Woman, because lots of people didn't liked that pairing and because Greg Rucka has final say in everything related to Wonder Woman.

So this leaves Lana Lang, which was the superior waifu during Nu52.

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>>88442956
THE MADMEN
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Can't wait.

>>88443226
super sons hasn't even launched yet, no way they kill Jon. If anything, they'll kill Lois.

>>88442956
>>88442991
The Return of Superman Red and Superman Blue!!

>>88443251

>This would be fucking retarded

Why?

>>88443034
They better not.

>>88443264
Lana is probably gonna die if superbro returns.

I'd rather Superman meet Kenan Kong than any of this bullshit desu

Can someone explain to me what is going on with superman? why is there more than one superman, why does he have a super family? I haven't kept up with superman since early new 52

>>88443298

DC won't keep two Supermen around for long. Either they merge or Superbro dies again.

>>88443287
Superbro is interesting because he's different, merging them would effectively erase everything that made him a great character

>>88443307

Why?

>>88443083
>We're going back to the awful SM/WW pairing, won't we?
No. Rucka had it retconned in WW's current ongoing that Diana actually never loved Superbro and her "feelings" for him was just Circe magically fucking with Diana's life.

They're obviously merging. They can't stay as the Smiths forever and if they were planning on keeping two Supermen around, they never would have killed Superbro the first time. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in complete denial. They had their fun with the whole "from another world" but, but his story needs to be simplified moving forward. One Superman, one Lois, and his son.

>>88443347
she and lois got her powers from superbro dying

>>88443338

Superbro had tons of bad stories, some of them that really stains him and other characters close to him. His past needs pruning.

Happy now Superbro fans?

DC is the only pubblisher that respects its fanbase and give tgem what they ask. Now go, suoport and buy their books you whinning children.

>>88443325
superbro is the eradicator man

>>88443374
Even at his worst Superbro was more interesting than the pandering shit Superdad has now

>>88443353
not true

>>88443001
>SUPERBOY PRIME CONFIRM
saw the theory here on /co/ that powerless clark is in fact a remnant of superboy prime, this cover pretty much confirms it

>>88443400

No, Superbro as his worst was just Superman in really, really bad stories. That's it.

>>88443374
The same could be said of Superdad.

>>88442974
My guess is that the prisoner is Conner Superboy

>>88443429

But Superdad bad stories doesn't affect other characters right now since his past is a moot point.

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>>88443001
PRIME TIME

>>88443443
What bad Superbro stories affect other characters outside of Lois Lane, who has already been killed off.

>>88443453
P R I M E

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>>88443025

Looking mighty Time Trapperish there Mr. Oz.

>>88443401

She said to Steve that being with Superbro was easy, because superpowers, and that the one she really loved was Steve, not Superbro, but that she while she was good at loving people, she was bad at romance stuff.

Later she learned that her past was a lie and i bet they'll touch on her relationship with Superbro with that as well.

>>88442956
Based DiDio!
Based DC!
The best pubblisher ever!

>>88443315
THIS

>>88443456

The ones shared with Batman and Wonder Woman, for another.

>>88443325
Why not give him a new code name or put him in another universe, or even just have him go on galactic adventures? Even putting him in another country could work.

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>>88443150
>I doubt DC will keep two Supermen around.

Having two Supermen around would be great though.

You have one doing all the fanfavorite stuff. Having a family with Lois, being the older, seasoned vet to all the superheroes(though he has started looking conspicuously younger since Superbro died).

Then you have the one that had adventures with this incarnation of Batman and Wonder Woman and pretty much everybody else, and free of the usual Superman-myth dynamics taken up by Superdad, has a lot more freedom to work with.

>>88443548

Mr. Majestic?

>>88443504
Nigga, what? Batman/Superman was fucking great, and literally none of the Wonder Woman/Superman comics matter now that Rucka has retconned all of the New 52 Wonder Woman appearances to basically being one big fucking dream sequence.

>>88443561
Super Friend.

Somebody merge the covers already

>>88443559
It'd also not be the first time we've had two Supermen.

>>88443583
Bringing Rucka back was a mistake

>>88443169
Next time we see DC One Million.

>>88443559

The problem with that is that you end up with two halves that aren't as good as the whole.

Why keep a veteran Superman around when he isn't close friends to the trinity and all the other heroes? Why keep an older Superman who's a loner and a pariah among the heroes?

Why keep a young Superman around who's divorced of all the nice things that make his supporting cast work? Why keep a Superman who's just Superman 24/7 and have nothing else going for him other than his interactions with other superheroes?

>>88443315
>>88443496
They're going to in the Superman Multiverse arc

>>88443583
>Nigga, what? Batman/Superman was fucking great

No, it wasn't. Greg Pak constantly reminded us that Superman was young, reckless and edgy and that Batman was older, cold and dangerous.

>>88443453
You'd think Superboy Prime would be unchanged and stuck in the force wall, being pissed off about the Nu52 Reboot and now the Rebirth shenanigans. Just stuck there staring at the entire universe with Macrovision since Final Crisis...unless Oz tapped him for his plans.

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>>88443561
I'd be okay with it if he shows up to job in the new Captain Atom series

>>88442956
They're going to pull a Superman Red/Blue aren't they.

>>88443315
that's already happening in the multiverse story next month

>>88443371
Lana might just die. I'm kind of expect some weird exchange nonsense where Lana will die buy Los comes back and they'll keep switching places.

>>88443058
This. Superdad fags btfo. I do like Superdad though.

>>88443661
Silly Nathaniel. You were the end of two universes!

>>88443211
AND MAKE HIM HAVE GROWN UP IN THE INNER CITY!
Based Mark Waid!

>>88443613

SM/WW was the bigger mistake, though. That mistake cost us Superbro and Azz's Wonder Woman.

Has it even been a year since he died?

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>>88443595
Here I did my attempt, anything wrong please tell

>>88443196
Hehe.... Excellente....

>>88443757
Hey dingus, the top one should be at the bottom.

>>88443315
>Kenan Kong
Thought of Kenan Thompson when i read this.

>>88443559
Superdad DID have adventures with this incarnation of Batman and Wonder Woman, they just don't remember him being the Superman in them.

Flashpoint wasn't a new universe, remember? It was memory alteration and selective de-aging.

>>88443698
>That mistake cost us Superbro and Azz's Wonder Woman.
This comment makes zero sense. The SM/WW pairing didn't affect anything. It was a harmless romance.

It's amazing how many people in this thread don't read comics.

>>88442991
Maybe Superbro will revealed yo be Kon-El, we don't know where he has been after the Flashpoint given that the Superboy NEW-52 was clonned from other source.
And maybe Lois is that niece of Lex that was crushing on Conner on Action Comics, we don't even know if she even exist post-Flashpoint given that the sister of Lex is even evil (or something like that) and it seems childless, actually maybe is because of this (realize her daughter is suddenly lost) she became bad(?).

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>>88443757
>>88443793

Yeah, I realized that. Here a "fixed" version, the different dimension of the covers makes it difficult to do a proper job, it'll be better when the originals gets released

>>88443658
>No, it wasn't. Greg Pak
That's really all that needed to be said, senpai.

>>88443613
>Bringing Rucka back was a mistake
To be fair: I really really enjoyed his older run on Wondy and have no fucking idea what the shit he's doing in this one.

>>88443025
Oz is giving me Equinox vibes

>>88443841
>people on /co/ don't read comics
First day here?

>Post yfw Superbro was actually Chris Kent this entire time.

>>88443338
Merging the characters would please nobody. Superbro fags would cry that "their" version was brought back to be written off. Superdad fags are going to be mad because it comes off as disrespectful to the character.

>>88443861
Or they're doing a Superman Red/Blue thing where they are both Superman who were separated be come one way better than that Superboy theory.

>>88444091
I think they're doing the Superman Red and Blue thing it makes sense.

>>88443869
Nice work.

>>88443861
New 52 Superboy was the clone of Superbro and New 52 Lois's son from an alternate future.

Clack Kent IS Superboy Prime. I'm calling it.

>>88444183
No shit everyone was already guessing that.

Are we back in Swerve Town now?

>>88442956
>>88442974
>>88443440
My guess is somehow, no idea how, but Superbro is a future version of Jonathan Kent, and the tragic moment that Lois/Supes go through in #18 is Jon "dying"

>>88443869
Sweet

>>88444292
He has an ongoing

>>88444292
>All the possible /ss/ with Wonder Woman

>>88444292
Too Chris Kentish

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>>88444100
C'mon he even fucked Wonder Woman and Conner used to have a relationship with Wonder Girl, his first time was with WG, the WW thing was just a remnant of that(his feelings for Cassie).

>>88444348
Than how do you explain the fact that Superbro and Superdad share the exact same voice exact same face exact same DNA when Superboy is only a half clone of Superman he wasn't fully cloned from him so he doesn't have his face or voice or the exact same DNA.

>>88443636
Feels like a good situation to get a "redo" of that "paradise dimension" that Alex Luthor, Jr., Kal-L, Lois and Superboy Prime were in Crisis on Infinite Earths.

>>88444348
And the cover strongly indicates they are going the Superman Red/Blue route which is definitely better than your Superboy theory so they're both Superman but just separated.

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What if Superdad was Superboy Prime?

>>88444516
I think Superboy Prime is the human Clark Kent just look at that cover that just screams Superboy Prime.

>>88444616
That'd be fucking great.

>>88444616
I dig it. What will make him go full prime though?

>>88443275
They already killed 52 Lois and was replaced by new Lois

I still want Superbro to be Kal-L

>>88444616
You think prime shitposts about the new 52? But wasn't he trapped in the source wall or something?

>>88443662
I'M SO FUCKING PUMPED

>>88442956
oh my fuck its superman red and superman blue

>>88444660
Who knows maybe Mr OZ does something to him.

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>>88444726
Of course.

>>88442956
How many supermen are there now? All the big name characters in comics have 2 or 3 versions of themselves running around.

>>88442956
>Superbro is back
>written by Jurgens
can wait for more Superdad circlejerk while he puts Superbro through the grinder

did Action Comics ever get better?

>>88444726
Maybe Dr Manhattan got him out of the source wall.

>>88442956
The rehashes are accelerating now.

>>88442956
>>88442974
>>88443001
>>88443025
BASED CEREAL KING. FUCK YEAH. FUCK SUPERBITCH, GIVE ME SUPERBRO BACK.

I think this confirms that Superwoman is getting the axe. Superbros energy was split 4 ways and if he is to merge with Superdad thst energy needs to come together again. it fits the theory because both Superwoman and New Super-man are red. I just dont want to see new Super-man cancelled

>>88443815

It was a terrible romance that made both characters and was everywhere from JL related titles cross-overs and Superman related titles cross-overs. It was a constant reminder of how bad things were now.

I remember when Geoff Johns began his run on the Superman title people were hoping against hope that the SM/WW pairing would end and that Superbro and Lois would get together because people were tired of the then current status quo.

But since DC didn't knew how to end the SM/WW without making things worse, they decided to go the OMD route where it's better to either kill everyone or retcon the past than having the characters simple break up. So now here we're with to Supermen around and Wonder Woman having her entire past in muddy waters.

Superman blue and red vibe with that picture.

>>88444348

I find you theory dumb as fuck, but Pre-Nu52 Cassie was Zeus' daughter like Nu52 Diana.

Still a stupid theory, though.

So basically the whole Superdad not feeling like himself and his powers being wonky is due to him being split during the nu52. Since it is not a AU and two supermen exist it only makes sense for them to be two parts of a whole. This is why Superbro didn't act like the superman we knew, he was missing that part of him. Seems like a decent way to merge the two stories together. Superdad will be the main person, but superbros memories will be inserted as well. Like a namekian fusion and Superdad is the one in control.

>>88445574

During the merging Superdad will absorb all the memories Superbro lived through and all those times Superbro got pegged by Wonder Woman will come flooding in Superdard's unprepared mind.

He'll probably never see Wonder Woman the same way again.

>>88445574
>I am neither Superbro nor Superdad, I am the lost Kryptonian who long ago forgot his name. I am Kal-L.

What a retarded status quo. DC should stop publishing Superman because all they've been doing with him is retconing shit instead of telling a proper story, since infinite crisis.

>>88445954
Unironically this.
This is why Superman can't compare to Batman, because Batman writers actually get shit done.
It's like how Wonder Woman can't get any extra shit that isn't an origin story.

>>88442956
Nice, I hope Lois comes back too. She's so much better than Lana

>>88442974
>the enigmatic Mr. Oz told this Superman, “You and your family are not what you believe you are. And neither was the fallen Superman.”
When did this happen? It was mentioned in Superman but I don't remember it.

>>88446049
DC Universe: Rebirth

>>88446049

>Nice, I hope Lois comes back too. She's so much better than Lana

Nu52 Lois was turned into a turbo cunt for the sake of SM/WW.

>>88444092
Not to mention it's a stupid idea being repeated

WE

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>>88443476

i can't offhand think if Trapper ever had a scythe.the lighting on the face makes me think of what's his name from Final Crisis, Libra

>>88445954
>>88445998

The problem with Superman and this is something that has been happening since before Infinite Crisis and their attempts with it to bring back the pre-CoIE Earth-1 elements to his canon, is that DC has been trying to create the ideal Superman that is taken seriously by the readers since the early 80's. They just don't know how.

So Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes is taken out along the Super-Pets, then they're all brought back, then Clark the loser who's constantly pining for Lois is replaced with Superman the alpha hero who's locking lips with Wonder Woman in the clouds, then Clark and Lois are brought back, then the Kents are brought back, then the Kents are dead again, then only Jonathan Kent is dead, then Jonathan Kent is alive again, then this, then that, then another thing entirely.

DC has been struggling in trying to make Superman big and important in all the right ways he should instead of just letting the character be. So they're always going back and forth because no editor and writer agree on what makes Superman great and all attempts are reactionary at best. The broader picture is there, but the little details, those tiny percents that will make him go from a good character to perfect is elusive and has been impossible to grasp.

The same goes for Wonder Woman, but in her case they face an even worse situation. They've completely lost the notion of who the fuck the character is and what's she supposed to be about, so her origin is constantly being changed as well as her characterization and goals. Because in her case even the foundation is fucked.

>>88444816
Oh fuck jurgens is writing this? Fuck I didn't even notice. Well I was already kinda pensive because although I am actually a huge Superbro fan this feels way to soon to have him ball and after seeing jurgens work in Action Comics I'm not looking forward to see what he's gonna do to my Superbro.

>>88443939
It's simple, he decided he's the one capable of the "definitive Wonder Woman story" in her 75th anniversary and is trying to "upgrade" post-Crisis (because "that the prior definitive version") and include his own shit from the original run

And the results are mediocre

>>88443583
After Superbro coming back, I'm pretty sure they are actually trying to mix New 52 Wonder Woman with post-Crisis Wonder Woman together "and make it all happen as a mashup"

Which won't work, obviously

Liam Sharp has commented something in those lines

>>88446633

>And the results are mediocre

The biggest problem with Greg Rucka's run is that he's working really hard to not upset the "real" Wonder Woman fans along with the feminists and SJWs.

So everyone outside of Veronica Cale, who's the villain, are all just super nice and understanding and supportive of one another. Diana is super nice, Steve is super nice, Etta is super nice, Barbara outside of the Cheetah persona is super nice, Sasha outside of being mind-controlled is super nice and so on. And everything is cute and fluffy and heart-warming.

That shit is boring as fuck.

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Please dont mess with my heart DC

>>88446681

So they'll probably do the same with Superman where Superbro and Superdad are going to mashup and mix their continuities.

This will be a clusterfuck.

>>88446732
Yeah, but in her case there won't be two Wonder Women, but "the New 52 reality was altered, but those things still happened... differently"

And they won't ever actually explain it properly

>>88446730

Reminder that after Krypto came back Superbro left Krypto completely alone in the Fortress of Solitude, only interacting with Krypto when he needed Krypto to attack his enemies and even then it wasn't even Superbro that interacted with Krypto but people like Wonder Woman and Supergirl. Superbro showed no care for the dog.

fuck i'm hype

i wasn't expecting him back so soon though

>>88446757

If the two Supermen do indeed mashup the same will apply to the new and single Superman entity.

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>>88446698
Diana is super dumb

She's not just naïve... she's borderline retarded and it's actually kinda creepy that Steve has this interest in someone so childlike

And it's not just in Year One either. Granted she is less retarded in the present, but still all kinds of clueless.

>>88446826
I don't know... the New 52 Superman still happened, didn't it? It wasn't just a dream or a altered reality

But it could happen too I guess

>As this epic tale wraps up, Superman’s life is drastically changed…and that’s all we are saying for now—except that you won’t want to miss it!

See how the solicits don't say "Supermen" or something like "Now that there are two Supermen" or things like that. They say "Superman" as in a single one.

I think they'll merge.

>>88446337
>reading SM/WW

>>88446337
Diana was also turned into a turbo cunt for the sake of SM/WW

Which actually left Lana as the only girl possible for Superman

>>88443321
Oh dude. Basically Superman that we knew in the Nu52 ended up "dying" from essentially putting his body through too much stress from too many different kinds of radiation. Coincidentally Old Superman from before the flashpoint is now in this world through the last multiverse fuckery event, although now it seems like this is in fact the same world as the pre-flashpoint one but with some things changed, I dunno. Either way new old Superman takes over the position of superman when he sees lex trying to be superman and he's like that can't fucking happen. Also this superman also came to this world with his lois lane who is his wife and infant son jon. And there's some human who seems to be Clark Kent but is something is up with him even though Superdad has scanned his brain and found nothing. And now apparently Superman from before is coming back and we keep getting told that none of them are actually who they think they are.

So in conclusion: Shit's fucked.

DC Rebirth?

More like DC Remake

>>88446827

Well, to be fair Nu52 Wonder Woman outside of her book was also naive and oblivious as fuck. It's just that she was more on the brutish side of things where she'd go "I DON'T UNDERSTAND, KAL! ALL THIS CONFUSION IS MAKING ME ANGRY AND MURDEROUS! COME, I NEED MY THERAPEUTIC SNU-SNU!". While in Rebirth she has been more in the cartoon Starfire vein of naive and oblivious where she goes "Oh, Steve... Tee hee! Explain this to me! Oh my gosh! You're so smart!"

>>88446565
gold star post
so so so true.

Spider-Man suffers the same thing to a different degree.

its a shame that Batman gets better treatment than fucking superman

>>88443196
25 more issues... normally it'd be a little over 2 years away but double shipping like it is? Its one year away... my anus is ready.

>>88446857
>>88446826
i really really REALLY REALLY HOPE THEY DONT MERGE

FUUUUUUUUCK THAT

and frankly, Superdad, Lois and Jon could still be from pre-crisis earth, even if Flash point actually changed nothing.

>>88446893

No, i'm saying that Lois became a turbo cunt in all the Superman related titles to make the SM/WW pairing work.

>>88446907

This too.
Both Lois and Diana became turbo bitches that Superbro had to put up with. One, the cunt that he loved for the longest time and had to give, the other, his current girlfriend and the source of his current problems.

Which left Lana to finally be the superior waifu as the new and improved hometown friend who's now a brilliant and fun super engineer that wants to help the world after being inspired by her friend's Clark heroism and compassion.

Good for Lana, because pre-Nu52 Lana was a major cunt.

>Superman #15 was solicited with art by Doug Mahnke and Jaime Mendoza but is actually Ed Benes, Ryan Sook, Jorge Jimenez and Clay Mann.

eeeeeekk damn benes

>>88446913
Each superman is actually a different Joker...
and they're all actually Jonn J'honz having anither existential crisis

>>88442956

send ! someone ! to ! the ! future !

>>88446990

oh it's gonna be Rebirth climax.

>>88443381
Oh please. The Superman fanbase in general is always whining about something it's embarrassing to be a part of. Don't single one sub group out like they're the only one's that acts like children or do I need to remind you of the incessant "GLAD THE FAKE IS DEAD" shitposts that filled the first few storytimes.

You know what? This is fair. Why should only Superman and Wonder Woman be in a fucked up mess of a continuity? Batman should too.

I say that there are three Batmen now running around.

>>88442956
Finally the non-shit Superman is coming back. I had enough of that cancerous kid.

>>88447151
Isn't King's Batman bad enough already?

>>88447151
Well, there are three Jokers... or did everyone forget that already?

I say give one Batman to each Joker

>>88447151
>in a fucked up mess of a continuity?
Well, this is planned for Superman. They decided they wanted to do this. It's not like they were writing one thing and then changed their minds and forgot a bunch of shit. This was meant to happen.

Like this is the story they want to tell. With all the Superman and dead Superman and SuperLex.

So I don't mind it. Still better than WW

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>>88447151
Three Batmen, you say?

>>88447151
>>88447210
>>88447212

Guys C'mon.
You don't know, there are six batmen running around! No way 1-3 person can do so much!

>>88443150
There are 2 flash's running around, its not completely out of the question

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>>88447251
Why Batman #5 doesn't rape Joker #3?

>they could just write Superbro properly
>go to these lenghts only to merge Supermen into one Superman "that everyone loves"

it's retarded

But I get it... plebs would never accept Superbro no matter how well written, so they had to do this shit. It's the New 52's cross. Forever seen as a taint by stupid people even though the roses were there.

>>88442956
in certain way... look the red and blue energy... one merge... one Superdad 2.0...

Anyway.. For some reason.. This is the first time that I think it's a good idea.. This rebirth would not insult the memory of my character ..

>>88444516
impossible.. in this case, his family never existed.. DC mention that this clark kent Will become in a scary character..

>>88446995
What's wrong with them merging it's the only way either one of them is coming out of this.

>>88447239

We all know why we're in this mess, right? I shouldn't have to say it.

DC knew that the fans, or at least a very vocal part of them, were displeased with the current status quo with the young and haughty Superman that lost his secret identity and was dating Wonder Woman instead of being married to Lois Lane.

So instead of, you know, just having Superman and Wonder Woman break up like sensible people and Superman pulling the Super-Robot switcharoo to regain the pretense of a secret identity back, they decided to go ONE MORE DAY on our ass. Because i don't know, heroes don't do break ups? They stay together till death do us apart? Fuck if i know.

So here we are. At least there were no deals with Neron involved.

>>88447422
why did they put them there?

>>88447436
>At least there were no deals with Neron involved.

I don't know m8... Constantine keeps appearing everywhere for some reason...

>>88447319
But they're not the same person like the Supermen.

>>88447320
When is Barbara going back to the wheelchair?

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>>88447320
You should ask johnbigbootee23, I'm sure he'll find a way to make Batman #6 rape Joker#2

>>88442956
THE MADMEN
H A
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MADMEN
A E
D N
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>>88447509

Which Barbara?

>>88447520
>That costume
That's shit.

>>88447520

Batman or... the Batmen... were smart. Since they were all Batmen they prep-timed their shit and started working together to be a more effective working force against crime. Nobody knows that there is more than one Batman, but they are out there.

So you've Sterling Batman, Batman that likes to monologue about his father and random trivia, the psycho Batman that works with the League, the tsundere Batman that had a homolust for Superbro is out with the trinity and so on.

>>88445788
>What do we call you.
>Just call me Superdad

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>>88443315

>>88447668
The downside is that there's only one Alfred and he has to work for all those Bruces

>>88443315
Superman is dead though. Or do you mean Superbitch?

>>88447718

Or is there?

>>88443659
Force Wall was destroyed in Green Lantern like a year ago

>>88447718
But who is the real father to Damien then?

What if Damien is a clone of all Batmen.

>yfw Superdad and Superbro and Prime merge

>>88447813

What if this new amalgamed Superman lose control and start absorbing all kinds of kryptonians including Supergirl who tries to help him?

>>88447824
This should be remade with Harley instead of that girl desu

>>88447571
Yeah 4champ filters extra spaces. I tried to invent the P O O P window the other day, didn't work.

>>88447848
Call the drawfags!

>>88447345
Honestly this. The whole thing is just getting dumber and I can't imagine merging the two characters is going to please anyone. At bets you'll get indifference from those who didn't care in the first place. Rebirth was supposed to be a jumping on point and it's already convoluted as fuck.

Man I feel bad for Superman. They just need a well written story. Not plot twist after status quo change after plot twist.

>>88447436
Yeah. We're in this mess cause the Not Muh brigade were pissed about the choices DC made so for some reason they went nuclear and managed to piss off a different group of people.

Although I find it ironic as fuck when people tell Superbro whiners to stop whining like children when there was always a metric fuck ton of whining over Superbro being "Not muh supes"

>Superbro is back

Which means Clark doesn't have to wear his uniform to honor his memory anymore

Which means UNDERWEAR CAN COME BACK

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>>88448109
The cover to action #975 has this pic related at the bottom, I think the trunks are coming back too anon

>>88447718
>all those Bruces

Let's not forget that they all also teach at the Philosophy Department at the University of Woolamaloo.

>>88448195
>I think the trunks are coming back too

I just came.

It's a good thing that I'm naked.

>>88448195
The trunks are coming back in Action Comics #1000

>>88448261
>>88448219
>>88448195
See this is what I'm talking about. There's always a portion of Superman fans who are in not muh mode.

>>88447436
We're in this mess because of Convergence. Wally said it, there is no alternate universe, everything is the same universe. While all other characters are being reintroduced or adjusted to classics, Superman had a dumb miniseries that went nowhere in the end.

If DC planned ahead, we wouldnt have had dumb shit like black Wally or Superdad issues.

>>88448321
I like the trunks, they're an iconic part of his design, I can live without them, but if they're back then fantastic

>>88448109
Why are you autists are so obsessed about a piece of clothing?

I hope DC ignores you whiny morons, new suits are pretty damn good.

>>88448394

See >>88448389

>>88448109
That would be fantastic, but I won't get my hopes up.

>>88448324
Isn't there an Earth-2 book right now? And plans for more Multiversity?

And like a multiverse Superman event coming soon?

The fuck are you talking about that there are no more alternate universes?

There's less but they're still there.

Wally was just stuck in the stuff in between and couldn't get into any of the universes.

>>88448023

Well, DC fucked it up with the New 52 reboot as well.

You just don't change such an iconic character like Superman. Reboot or not. Specially so by changing the little things that define the character in people's eyes. Superman's such a known and consistent character outside the comics and even in comics that any changes are met with sense of oddness and betrayal.

Take the movies, the cartoons, the TV shows. In all of them Superman's always the kinda and charming hero who's always have a smile of his face no matter what and away find a way, the only exception being the reporter and co-worker Lois who's in love with, but even then in the end they always end together. That's what older readers and casuals, specially the casuals, know Superman for. That's what they believe and they trust in the character. That's what they identify the character by.

So any changes, no matter small, will be met with resistance. DC was smart enough to not mess much with the Batman and Green Lantern franchise moving forward with the New 52, but even the few things they changed about these franchise was met with criticisms, and the Green Lantern franchise that in the last few years was super popular started to lose its popularity after the reboot.

1/2.

>>88448854

The problem with DC regarding Superman is that the company always felt that the character has become old fashioned. That the ever elusive modern readers and audience find the character boring and corny. That's how they approached the character at the beginning of the New 52 Not so much Grant Morrison, who just wanted to do a meta take on the transitional phase between the Superman golden and silver era stories, but the editors and other writers decided that they had to make Superman more of an alpha. Cooler, darker, dangerous. The "Origin" arc of JL shows that. The Nu52 inspired animated movies shows that. Even the Superman/Wonder Woman is a sign of that, since for the longest time a lot of DC's editors and writers felt that the Clark Kent lame persona and Superman conflicted relationship with Lois Lois was what set him back and that he should be more super than man and be rightly with Wonder Woman because she's the only one worthy to be with the almighty Superman.

But that's all fan wishful thinking and marketing team misplaced notion of things, because readers and casuals alike don't like when things they know or think they know really well change. People hate change. Specially abrupt changes. Look at MoS. Most of the critics and audience were wondering were the heck was those things that made the Richard Donner's movies so appealing. Take a look at how the Supergirl show's Superman has been received. People want to be reassured that the things that they've known for the longest time will remain the same. That it won't change. Specially nowadays with the world so fucking chaotic.

So Superbro new background and constant change of status quo constantly left people scratching their heads and wishing for the Superman they've known for so long.

2/2.

>>88448324

>If DC planned ahead, we wouldnt have had dumb shit like black Wally or Superdad issues.

Either way you'd have other issues regarding Superbro because his status quo wouldn't remain. Superbro having no secret identity, dating Wonder Woman, having new powers and so on. None of that shit would remain. He'd probably suffer the same fate as Wonder Woman where he'd learn his entire past is a lie or something.

You know this to be true.

>>88448831
We are talking about pre-Flashpoint universe, what's so hard to understand that part.

>>88448873
>>88448854
I don't know where you guys are getting that Superbro was haughty and whatnot. Dude was always chill as fuck

>>88445574
>Fusion has the trunks back, come issue 1000.

Calling it right the fuck now.

Look at the full image, the superman in the background is wearing the classic belt and trunks

>>88449013

Geoff Johns, Charles Soule and Greg Pak would constantly push the idea that Supebro was younger and edgier. Justice League first arc basically had Superbro acting like a big bully that took pleasure in his show of power and general violence.

>>88448854
>You just don't change such an iconic character like Superman. Reboot or not.

Except they have quite a few times. The dude changes ever several years. That's just a fact. But you guys keep acting like they changed him, this last time, into something unrecognizable. It's obvious that you guys never read the comics when you make statements like:

>In all of them Superman's always the kinda and charming hero who's always have a smile of his face no matter what and away find a way

Meanwhile Superbro was all of that shit.

You guys bitch about the temerity of DC to change the Superman status quo and how it's doomed to failure and then, the very next day, praise Superdad the family man and father or a young son as if that doesn't fly in the face of the exact statement you just finished making. Dude's never been an actual dad longer than a month or two at a time.

Superdad is fine, and I do not mind him, though he's written entirely too scared for my liking ever now and then, but you guys take turns shitting over Superbro for doing shit that he never did. You guys are fucking weird, man.

>>88447436

Reading superman because of shipping....


who the fuck cares, i hope Kal punches out a cyborg whale next issue or something, the amount of you faggots who care who Supes is banging is retarded. Its like nerd soap opera or something...

>>88449097
>Justice League first arc basically had Superbro acting like a big bully that took pleasure in his show of power and general violence.

A boo hoo. You guys keep harping on him being pleased about making a nazi sad exactly once even though he felt badly about *that* immediately afterwards.

Meanwhile I'm positive there's an image of Superman laughing about Nazis drowning from the golden age. Y'all dudes just have a double standard for what's an acceptable superman and no matter what, Superbro isn't going to make the cut because "reasons."

>>88449174
>Reading superman because of shipping

Relationships are a very important part of storytelling. Sorry if you find girls and stuff icky, but most people actually look for that in their media.

But you're not really mad about ship stuff. The fact is that you don't mind shippy stuff as long as it's your ship that they're setting sail in. I wish they'd man up and kill off every single other person in all their OTPs so they'd be forced to write new shit. No frigging take backs either.

I know you folks would howl though. Your type doesn't respond well to changes.

>>88448321

The blue onesie is awful.

>>88449117

>Except they have quite a few times. The dude changes ever several years.

And nobody likes those changes. People bitched when Superman: Birthright became main canon for a brief time. People bitched when Infinite Crisis happened and nobody really knew what was Superman's new origin or what was and not was canon. People are constantly bitching about any changes done to Superman.

>Meanwhile Superbro was all of that shit.

Sometimes. But the biggest problem was that his background was different. The Kents were dead, he wasn't in speaking terms with Lois, he was dating Wonder Woman and later his status quo would radically change from one cross-over to another.

All those little changes bothered people.

>>88449174

It's not about shipping. It's about readers being accustomed with status quo. Even the Kents being dead was a major source of complaints. For example take The Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows. The appeal of the book goes beyond just the Spider-Man/Mary Jane ship. It's about Peter being a grown man, about Peter having a daughter (something was hinted for the longest time in main canon and AU Spider-Girl popular series). It's about a lot of things that have to do with readers being found of how they feel things were and aught to be.

Basically is about nostalgia.

>>88449180

Nobody has nostalgia for golden age Superman, because most people haven't read those stories. But 90's Superman? Still fucking imprinted on people's mind.

Nostalgia is fucking important. Fuck, there are people still bitching about the lack of Christ Kent, Superman's adopted son, all because that was something that existed during the late 2000's.

>>88449241

Dude I hate that shit, shipping is cancer, the storyline about supermans gf should be minor at best, hell give lois her own stories but of all things comics like Superman, Batman, Spiderman, the big ones should be exciting and awesome not about relationship drivel, theres many many other types of books that deal with that kind of stuff, and other books in the big two that do it better.

I know you claimed i find girl stuff icky, which i don't, but imo a 9 year old should be able to open and read an issue of superman and go WOW! not be bored through a bunch of melodrama.

>>88447571
I know your pain, anon. I tried that once, too.

>>88442956
>Superman Red and Blue

Damn, why nobody imagined this? It was so fucking obvious.

>>88449385

The problem is that Superman has had Lois romance for the longest time. Take any movie, any show. Lois is always there. Superman's always pining for her. People miss those things.

For example take Batman. BatCat shippers might cry hard, but Batman's a character were romance was never a big part of his stories. In movies, tv shows and even comics. He would bang them and leave them. Even Catwoman no matter how much "true luv" was there. In fact readers will start complaining if a writer push too much romance shit on a Batman storyline. Because that's not consistent with the character. That's not expected. If Catwoman become a permanent part of his supporting cast in a book and there's too much romance people will bitch.

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>>88449180

>>88442956
You can't see it but I have the biggest smile on my face now.

So now that the dust has settled, can we agree that the armored costume is pretty great?

>>88443315
It has to be Superbro since Kenan's powers come from him.

>>88449254
>The blue onesie is awful.

Red underwear outerwear is red underwear on your head retarded.

>>88449312
>And nobody likes those changes.

Here you go, confusing your opinion with everyone's opinion. That's just not the way it is. I don't deny that there's a lot of people who have been pissing their pants about Superbro for two years, but you're perfectly willing to pretend that people like me do not exist.

>People are constantly bitching about any changes done to Superman.

We've noticed. Usually they shut the fuck up after a while, but the whiners got their way this time.

>But the biggest problem was that his background was different.

Really now.

>The Kents were dead

Yeah, it's not like that's ever been the case before. Hell, Pa Kent even making it to see Clark become Superman is a late Silver age addition.

>he was dating Wonder Woman

Be honest with yourself. Ninety percent of your guy's gripes with superbro can be found in this issue right here.

>It's not about shipping.

Come on man. Just admit it.

>>88443001
PRIME TIME

>>88449602

You think i hate Superbro, i don't. I'm just explaining the obvious, anon.

So you don't need to respond all my points as if we were mortal enemies. You seem to missing the point i'm trying to make. It's not about Superbro sharing traits with golden age Supes or silver age Supes, which he does. That's what Morrison was going for. The point i'm trying to make is that DC fucked up when they decided to change Superman with the reboot, because Superman is big and known and you just don't change characters like that. The nostalgia will speak louder.

It's not about shipping. If Superman had dated Wonder Woman or Lana for the longest time and was now dating Lois with the reboot the result would be the same. The deal is that something had been changed. Any change, when it comes to Superman, will be met with resistance. Because the character has been fairly consistent in outside media and comics for the longest time.

Got it?

>>88442956
MUH SUPERMAN!

>Superbro's stories were lame
Its like mudafuckas forgot how mediocre Superman books were for years before the new 52

>>88443083
Probably not, Diana is rekindling her relationship with Steve and her relationship with Superbro was failing in the end especially since he was paying more attention to Lois and Diana was getting closer to Steve since Darkseid War.

If anything they both will just have a platonic love for each other but nothing romantic or sexual.

>>88449364
>Nobody has nostalgia for golden age Superman, because most people haven't read those stories.

I know this is hard for you, but not everyone is exactly you. In a conversation about how there's always been a group of people bitching about how much superman has changed every time he changed, you have to understand that all those guys bitching about the last several changes were the guy to whom the golden age superman *was* their nineties superman. Do you not understand that?

So tell us all why your nineties superman is more important than their 60s superman.

Why do your concerns mean more than the guys bitching about how CoIE ruined everything?

>>88449385
>Dude I hate that shit, shipping is cancer, the storyline about supermans gf should be minor at best

Meanwhile the character is about more than punching things. It's about the life he leads. Who he loves is an important part of that.

>comics... should be exciting and awesome not about relationship drivel

That's just childish. Real talk. Kids talk like this.

>>88449727
>So you don't need to respond all my points as if we were mortal enemies.

Sorry I responded to you in a clear and easy to follow way. How weird of me, huh?

>he point i'm trying to make is that DC fucked up when they decided to change Superman with the reboot, because Superman is big and known and you just don't change characters like that.

Except that they have changed superman before, every few years, for the last several decades. Other than those times they changed several things about the character, they should have known better than to try, huh?

>it's not about shipping... goes off into a lot of shipping stuff.

Yeah, I got it.

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>>88449602
>Red underwear outerwear

The trunks are not underwear, and were worn for multiple reasons, not the least is the connection with the old-timey strongman/acrobat trope. Also, they hide his junk and/or panty-lines.

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>>88449515

>>88449736
>Rebirth is so much pandering that even New 52 fans have their wishes responded to

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>>88449826
>The trunks are not underwear

You can call them whatever you want: they look like he put his underoos on last by accident and that's the kind of accident only a retard would make.

>>88449769

>Why do your concerns mean more than the guys bitching about how CoIE ruined everything?

Fuck. They're not my concerns. I'm just... i'm just trying to play the Devil's advocate here about where DC messed up.
The people that liked pre-CoIE Earth-2 or Earth-1 Superman doesn't matter much because they're all dead or they're too few and so their opinions hold less value. Even then there are a lot of professionals inside DC that feel that the Pre-CoIE Earth-1 Superman was the most appealing Superman has ever been because that Superman was "their" Superman. That's what Infinite Crisis was all about. DC wanted to bring back the silver age elements that made "that" Superman cool and which was jettisoned after CoIE by John Byrne.

>>88449816

>Except that they have changed superman before, every few years, for the last several decades. Other than those times they changed several things about the character, they should have known better than to try, huh?

And every time people bitched. Superman has been consistent in the comics since the 80's, with changes here and there that were met with little success. He has been even more consistent in outside media. Those consistent things are still remembered by people. They still weight on Superman. So any changes to that are met with displeasure. That's what happened with Superbro.

>Yeah, I got it.

No, you didn't. You feel attacked by me. You feel as if i was attacking your favorite character. You're defensive. I'm not attacking Superbro. I liked Superbro. I'm just trying to explain why others didn't. Why DC decided to do this whole mess in attempt to bring back some resemblance of the old status quo. Why DC has been trying to bank on nostalgia with Rebirth.

>>88449769
>That's just childish. Real talk. Kids talk like this.

its not a popular opinion but I'm of the mind that the flagship books both DC and Marvel put out should be accesible to a kid around 10 years old, theres tons of other titles that deal with other themes and Imprints like Vertigo and other publishers that deal with all kinds of adult level stuff.

I just dont see why Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Spider-man, Captain America, etc have to be also for older dorks like ...probably most of us in the thread.

That one anons point about lois always being in Superman was certainly valid though i was thinking about it in relationship terms, Lois has been around forever.

>>88449921
>And every time people bitched

And every time before people ignored them, but these days people chose to appease the loudest pants shitters.

>Superman has been consistent in the comics since the 80's

You know this isn't true. Hell, both Kents were dead until like 86.

>He has been even more consistent in outside media.

I'm going to need you to sing along with me here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSN6et9eze8

>You feel as if i was attacking your favorite character.

No, I feel like you're attacking the reality we live in because you keep saying things that just aren't true, lol.

>>88449954
>its not a popular opinion

Cause no one takes kids seriously.

>>88449905
I get it; you love cocks.Bulgy fully outlined cocks and scrotums straining against thin, form-fitting spandex, You could have just *said* that and cut through all the nonsense about "underwear".

>>88449954

>That one anons point about lois always being in Superman was certainly valid though i was thinking about it in relationship terms, Lois has been around forever.

That's it. Since Richard Donner's movies there have been things that have been consistent about Superman in outside media and that people have come to expect.

Martha Kent being alive, Jonathan Kent dying of a heart attack, the Fortress of Solitude, Jor-El recordings/ghost teaching Superman about Krypton, Superman meeting Lois while rescuing her from a helicopter, airplane, space-bus and what have you, Clark Kent the reporter pining for Lois, Lois pining for Superman, Superman telling Lois the truth after a messy love triangle, Superman and Lois together.

These things are always there. Superman: The Animated Series, the 80/902000's comics, Lois & Clark show, Smallville show, even MoS somewhat. So since the New 52 changed a lot of those things we ended up with a lot of discontent readers and now we're in this mess because DC got afraid after DCYou bombing hard.

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Cocks.

>>88450031

>ou know this isn't true. Hell, both Kents were dead until like 86.

I'm talking about from CoIE moving forward.

>I'm going to need you to sing along with me here:

Remind me again how Smallville ended? Oh, right. Clark wearing glasses, working at the Daily Planet, dating Lois and finally showing his Superman costume (which he didn't really showed, but whatever).

>No, I feel like you're attacking the reality we live in because you keep saying things that just aren't true, lol.

Which reality? The reality where DC brought back pre-Nu52 Superman in an attempt to please the older readers? Where they killed Superbro? Where now who knows what they will do but won't forego pre-Nu52 Superman and his family?

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>>88443286
They might actually do it right this time.

I'm down for this.

Wish Superdad could have the trunks, but not bad.

>>88443169
Still a long ways off.

I look forward to Superman Sun/Moon though.

>>88442956
They're doing Superman Red and Blue. Look at the fucking colors man

>>88450072
I'd rather be gay than retarded. Red underwear on top of pants is definitely the latter.


>>88450139
>Remind me again how Smallville ended?

So the first seven seasons don't count as his portrayal in outside media. It was just seven years after all. laffo.

>>88450139
>Which reality?

The reality where DC changed superman about every five years for the last seventy years. The reality where he was portrayed as a teen boy pining for Lana Lang for over half a decade on a weirdly successful yet almost entirely garbage TV show.

You know, this one.

As opposed to opposite land over where you live where Superman's been Staticman.

>>88450129
>>88450151

You know how I know you're five? You think girls are icky and that everyone else is grossed out by dick. Sorry son, but you're going to have to go to bed early tonight.

>>88450295

I give up, m8. I'm trying to explain a very simple thing, but you're thick as a log.

>>88442956
Fuck yeah Superbro is back!

>Mahnke and Gleason headlining the art for Superman

Fucking DC is on point with their artist choices

>>88443001
SUPERBOY PRIME???!!

>>88442956
Why not let Chinese Superman be Superman Red?

>>88450391

Because he's yellow.

>>88442974
>and ends in a tragic moment for Lois and Superman.


Stop it.

>>88443440
My guess is that Doomsday escapes AGAIN!

>>88442991
Obviously we don't fucking know yet.

>>88450347
>I'm trying to explain a very simple thing

By using inaccurate information. If all you can find to back up your assertions is a bunch of bullshit, it's not the other guy's fault for pointing that out.

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>>88449905
Literally no Superhero wears pants with "underwear" on the outside.

They all wear tights.

And say what you will, underoos outside of tights can be pretty hot.

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>>88444348
I would absolutely love it if Conner somehow came back, in some way, shape or form.

Hell, call him Supernova and make him the Nightwing of the Superfamily.

>>88450470

It's not inaccurate. People bitched about Superbro not being their "Superman" and now DC brought back "their Superman". How is that inaccurate?

DC tried to make Superman hip and cool, because DC has been trying to do that for the longest time now, but it failed somewhat because people don't really want changes. So the in the first of failure they went and did a mess by trying to bring what's known and nostalgic.

How am i wrong again?

>>88450499

But Conner was in Lobdell's Teen Titans. He even showed up in the Superbooks when Lobdell ran things.

>>88450488
>underoos outside of tights can be pretty hot.

So can bras, but I don't want to see one on Superman. Cause that would be red underwear on the outside of his pants retarded.

>>88450554
>It's not inaccurate

And here you are, posting that superman never changes and Smallville never happened. OK champ. Have fun with that. If you want to pretend that Superman has been unchanged for decades except this one time they New-52d him, more power to you.

You're just wrong is all.

>>88450295
>Red underwear on top of pants

Superman wears tights, not pants. And those are trunks, not underwear. Acrobats and strongmen; pretending otherwise is retarded, Slappy.

>>88450638

Smallville was Superman as a young teen. Of course the beginning will be different.

>>88450638
No one wears bras outside their tights.

>>88450571
No he wasn't. That was the Kon-el/Harvest disaster of a character.

Also, I really, really fucking hope they don't bring the trunks back. That's the one thing the new 52 did right.

>>88450295
>I'd rather be gay than

Didn't say you're gay. You just like cocks.

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>>88450668
>Superman wears..underwear.

Exactly, the old superman wore underpants as overpants. What a retard, huh? They're underwear, they look retarded and everyone else has moved on.

Have you taken a moment and considered that you can just stop wanting retarded things?

>>88450805
>No one wears bras outside their tights.

But if they put an "S" for hope on there and had him wear one for a few years some retards would clamor for more. With lace and shit most likely.

>>88450832
>Didn't say you're gay. You just like cocks.

morpheus.jpg

Superman is finally back

This is what I want to see happen.

Superdad and Superbro merge into a single Superman of this universe. The life and memories from post-New52, the memories from Pre-New52, but "physically?" he's the New52 Superman, in terms of age and all that (not that anyone would notice, but whatever).

Same with Lois. I want to see Pre-New52 Lois Lane merge with her Post-New52 self, so that physically she's the younger New52 Lois with the Superwoman powers, and she's still married to Superman and is the mother of Superboy(Jon).

Basically, Superdad and Lois need to fully become apart of this reality and timeline through their doppelgangers of this reality and timeline. I guess the way I imagine it is Post-New52 Superman and Lois "absorb" their Pre-New52 selves...?

But mostly, what I think should ultimately happen, is they resolve this crazy space-time reality reset stuff by doing doing the full Post-Flashpoint/Pre-Flashpoint merging that they seem to be hinting at, into one single timeline and reality and whatever.

>>88451180

But that would be a mess. The new Superman would remind his relationship with Wonder Woman and how badly Nu52 Lois treated him and new Lois would remind how much of cunt she behaved to Superbro and how jealous she felt of Wonder Woman. Not to mention that i like my redheaded Lois.

Fuck, there's no good way out of this, is there?

>>88451264
>Fuck, there's no good way out of this, is there?

For a shipfag like you? no there isnt. the story comes before whomever supes ends up with or how relationship wise.... you fucks are seriously cancer.

>>88450813
>No he wasn't. That was the Kon-el/Harvest disaster of a character.
Exactly that was a different character.
Besides at the beginning of New-52 Superbro even used to wear as his heroic outfit jeans and t-shirt, just like Conner, Superbro is Conner modified by Manhattan.

>>88451293

It's not about shipping, but how Superman and Lois see behaved before. Forget Wonder Woman. Even before that Nu52 Lois was a cunt. She treated Clark's emotions as a toy and sold herself to become a producer in the GBS. She gave away his secret identity.

There gonna fuse into one Superman

>>88449364
More people read Superman in 60s and 70s than the 90s.

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>>88451293

Nu52 Lois sucked.

>>88443001
MOTHERFUCKING SUPERBOY PRIME

BASED DC

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>>88451293
Theres' only one solution... FLASHPOINT 2!!!

>>88451390

Where are these people clamoring for God trickster Superman?

>>88451422
Oops, replied to the wrong thing... but eh, whatever. >>88451264 Meant to reply to this.

>>88451422

Second Flashpoint would be great, actually. I'm ready for a new reboot. Third time is the charm, right?

This merging of pre-Nu52 and Nu52 is BAD IDEA.

>Both fuse into a single Superman
>His costume is destroyed in the process
>Retrieves the classic suit from home
Pls DC

>>88451411
I dunno maybe I'm a sucka for this shit but I wanted to see Superbro and Lois's journey to becoming an item

>>88451504

Yeah, me too, but not before Nu52 Lois had a long journey of atonement to become a better person and friend. The cunt needed to learn her lesson.

>>88451426
They stopped purchasing Superman, so now Superman sells lower than Harley Quinn and shit ton of other comics.

>>88443058
>the golden superman from the future is several supermen fused together

>>88443025

so we've been running with the canonical concept of the Time Trapper changing his identity because of the Trapper's very actions, *a* Trapper always pops up but sometimes its Cosmic Boy, sometimes its superboy-prime, sometimes its a rogue Controller.

Are they leading us down the road of this Trapper being Ozymandias?

Superbro and Superboy-Prime. Wait how did SBP get of the source wall?

>>88450981
>Exactly, the old superman wore underpants as overpants.

Nope, exactly not.

>What a retard, huh?

Yes, yes, you are.

>They're underwear, they look retarded

They're trunks, they conjure up images of an halcyon bygone retro-futuristic era (which Superman should while being "The Man Of Tomorrow"), they upgird his loins, and obscure the glare of his dong.

>and everyone else has moved on.

Wat

>>88442956
I want this made into a poster.

>>88442956
YES!

>>88443315
KYS

>>88443315
As long as it's Superbro since that's where Kenan gets his powers not from Superdad.

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>>88451812
>Nope, exactly not.

Except that he did. We have exactly 5 trillion pictures as evidence that he used to fly around dressed like a 5 year old with downs would dress.

>tights

I know you really want your superheroes to be dressed like Hulk Hogan but them days is over holmes. Sorry about your horrible taste.

>>88451504
>I wanted to see Superbro and Lois's journey to becoming an item

I was interested in watching Superman have a relationship with anyone who isn't named Lois for once. I'm tired of that tired shit.

>>88442956
Finally

>>88443001
I wonder if Paul Dini is slowly coming back around to writing for DC again?

>>88451534
>The cunt needed to learn her lesson.
I agree with this

>>88452145
I wanted to see that too but Lois will always be endgame

>>88452145

Superman's a one gal kinda guy.

>>88451553
>DC One Million
I...I...believe.

>>88451504
Honestly I just enjoyed seeing Superbro become Superman. Shit was enjoyable you know. I never really got to see progress when I was a young'un reading Superman comics as a kid because he had already become Superman. But this guy was someone I could see progress into Superman. Just like you could see him and bats progress from distrust to best buds to Worlds Finest. Superbro was a story about a character progressing and maturing into the ideal. Then they replaced him for someone who already achieved the ideal.

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>>88442956

>There are people on /co/ who still think Superbro will be a version of Superboy
>There are people who think they will not be doing Superman Red & Blue
>Even though in OP's pic Superbro has red energy and Superdad has blue
>Even though Superbro released Red energy when he died
>Even though Superwoman emits Red energy that she got from Superbro

So are these people in denial because their Superboy theory didn't pan out or something? This would also explain why Krypto took to Superdad so fast, he can't tell the difference between the two Because Dogs can't see colors

>>88452234
>I wanted to see that too but Lois will always be endgame
That'd be the nice thing about keeping both Supes. Superdad can stay with Lois, and Superbro can get with someone else.

Hell, no need to limit it to WW or Lana. He could get with Batgirl or some shit.

>>88452234
>Lois will always be endgame

As long as everyone insists that's teh case it's always going to be that way. If you've got an "end game" OTP or whatever, it cheapens everything else because nothing else can work.

I don't understand how comics fans can sit there and not only know how the story is going to turn out, they will get mad when the story looks like i

>>88452257
>Superman's a one gal kinda guy.

See? They write shit like this. The stories that have already been written are the only stories they're interested in.

Yes, Superman is a one gal kind of guy, but why are you guys so insistent that it be that one gal? Jesus, there's an endless amount of stories that can be told but you guys just want the one, over and over again with the barest hint of variation.

There's 30 other flavors but you guys keep asking for variations of vanilla.

>>88452452

>I never really got to see progress when I was a young'un reading Superman comics as a kid because he had already become Superman.

But there are tons of comics showing pre-Nu52 Superman becoming Superman.

>Just like you could see him and bats progress from distrust to best buds to Worlds Finest.

They were already best buds by the second arc of JL due to the 5 year time gap.

Superbro had little progression. DC used the timegap to jump all of that. Outside of Morrison's work, where he went from Bruce Springsteen Superman to the "silver age" Superman in the very first arc there wasn't much progression.

What he had was a lot of extreme home makeovers.

>>88452566

Superdad also emitted blue energy with he touched Superbro's grave. This was recently explored in Superman Annual 1.

>>88445574
what about lois?

How did we not see this coming when Superdad was put in an almost entirely blue suit?
Are we stupid /co/? No, honestly, are we? I mean, I have a master's in city planning from Howard University.
I could tell you where your convention center should go, but I can't tell you when DC is giving us the business.

>>88452595

>Yes, Superman is a one gal kind of guy, but why are you guys so insistent that it be that one gal?

Because that's how it is supposed to be. Fuck reboots, nigga. I want things the way they were and should be.

>Jesus, there's an endless amount of stories that can be told but...

Then use what you have instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.

>>88452595
>As long as everyone insists that's teh case it's always going to be that way. If you've got an "end game" OTP or whatever, it cheapens everything else because nothing else can work.
That's just how its always going to happen in cape comics anon

>>88452700
They were a lot more subtle about it (relatively speaking) than they were in the '90s.

I actually wouldn't object to it if they kept Superdad Blue for oldfags like me and Superbro Red for the folks who really like him.

But they're going to fuse them into the "real" Superman at the end of this Doctor Manhattan bullshit.

>>88452566
that doesnt explain the 2nd lois

>>88452793
Lois Red and Blue.

>>88452712
>There are no other flavors than vanilla.

I know you guys don't like surprises, but someone of us don't want to know where the story is going.

>>>88452749
>That's just how its always going to happen

But the thing is that doesn't have to be. There's no "comics OTP authority" ffs. There's just nerds who get mad when it's not Lois at home waiting on Clark.