Why was Iroh more focused on teaching a teenager to beat an adult

>>88411376
Because Iroh knew that Zhao was bitchmade.

because you come from a country where dueling has been outlawed for a century, while they come from a 1800s time period where dueling was still legal, while their combat-centric culture meant that it still considered civilized

>>88411438
That's a great moral for kids.

>>88411461
Not an argument.
>>88411376
Because he knew he couldn't dissaude him so he did everything he could to make sure he won.

>>88411502
Exactly. Zuko's too bullheaded and high-strung to veer from any stupid challenge unless somehow that got him Aang. Knowing the dumb fucker would probably piss off even more dangerous, competent adults rather than wise up even if he got wooped, Iroh thought he'd teach him how to fight like a champ.

Because:

1. Zuko was already a royally trained fighter, a sparring duel against a bitch ass Admiral is nothing.

2. Iroh is the motherfucking Dragon of the West, and had enough confidence in his skills that he could teach them to Zuko and use it to beat some bitch ass Admiral.

3. If you can't win a fight against the bitch ass Admiral, you have no business trying to hunt down the Avatar.

>>88411376
Because he knew his nephew could completely body that bitchass Zhao. Also honor.

>>88411600
>bitch ass Admiral

The guy might (not sure) have actually participated in actual war and wasn't a pansy off the street. All Zuko knew was what some royal teacher told him (and his uncle, and he was ass despite that).

>>88411567
That was Iroh's whole deal, making Zuko a better man by supporting him, even when he didn't agree with him.

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>>88411376
Considering the Fire Nation was an allegory for Japan, honor is fucking everything. And considering Zuko had already be disgraced once in a duel, he could redeem what little honor he had left by dueling and beating a Navy general.

Also honor.

>>88411642
>Admiral in an army of a monarchy that gained control of the world nearly a hundred years ago.
Somehow I doubt he saw that much action.

>>88411690
they were waging a long war in the earth kingdom

>>88411642
Now see, you're talking all of that good stuff, but the results of the fight says otherwise.

Zhao had war experience (if you can call terrorizing nearly defenseless villages "war"), but he was a thug that had no discipline and no control. Iroh (and Jeung-Jeung, in case you forgot who they were) saw right through him as the bitch ass nigga he really is, hence why Zuko was given proper training and was given the green flag to light that ass up.

>>88411376
Zuko challenged Zhao. Why would Iroh persuade him to back out like a little bitch after he threw down the gauntlet?

Can you even back out of an agni kai?

>>88411704
The war was basically over at the start of the series. The only strongholds left were Omashu and Ba Sing Se, and they didn't last long after.

>>88411746
zuko had HONOR on the line

>>88411746
You probably could *technically*, but it would be seen as disgraceful and dishonourable etc etc

>>88411746
You could just say "no". Azula did.

>>88411376
Iroh has the power to make Zuko a better fighter.

He has no power to force him to make good life decisions.

>>88411851
Yeah, but Zuko was the challenger. If the both agreed and one backed out, that would be different.

>>88411376
Because HONOR

also because it's better for the long run being that Zuko is on a dangerous mission that could potentially put him in much more dangerous situations in the future.

>>88411746
Probably but people would see you as dishonorable.

>>88411746
yes, but considering Zuko was a prince and got called out by the King himself it would be viewed as very disgraceful. The consequences would have probably been even worse if he refused.

>>88411376
>Why was Iroh more focused on teaching a teenager to beat an adult fighter

that's how all this shit started in the first place if he knew how to at least attack his father he wouldn't have been out there

>>88411746
>>88412360
No.

Don't forget that the reason why Zuko was banished wasn't because he dishonored his father in the war council, but because he refused to participate in the following Agni Kai when he realized he was going to fight his father after claiming he wasn't afraid to fight in a duel.

>>88412398
Did we watch the same show?

Zuko did not fight back in the Agni Kai, however he did not refuse it and still participated.

>>88412412
He refused to participate the moment he realized he would have to fight his father. Zuko basically tried to 'back out', and was banished for it.

Going on a stage and refusing to fight before the actual fighting starts means to not participate. Decorum aside (Azula and Zuko's Agni Kai lacked the traditional rituals anyways, but no-one can deny what it was), an Agni Kai is a fire duel, and a duel without a duel is no duel at all.

>>88411376
Because Iroh's wise enough to know how ineffectual that would be. Zuko's not going to be persuaded otherwise.