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>CN had their own potential Spongebob on their hands >They

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>CN had their own potential Spongebob on their hands
>They let it get so bad that the ratings dropped to 1 mil and are now ending it
>Have no replacement

Does this network want to fail?
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>implying those at the top who make all the money care if it goes under
>implying they won't get a huge severance of billions when it does
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>>88366779
>Have no replacement
TTGO! is the replacement
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Is this show worth continuing? I never saw an episode in my entire life until 2 days ago. I decided to watch the first 2 episodes. The show is so fucking weird and unappealing that I'm debating dropping it after only 2 episodes. Is it worth trying to push through it, does it get better?
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>>88367097
Seasons 1 and 2 are the best

Cracks started to show in 3
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>>88367106
What's the appeal exactly? I saw 2 episodes and don't get it yet. I don't mind that there's no story and the world makes no sense, what really annoys me so far is that it's not funny. I didn't find a single joke funny yet.
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>>88367126
if you don't think it's funny now you probably won't like it ever
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>>88367097
It starts out as a quirky, madcap comedy, then delves so far into its own lore that the humor is left on the sidelines. Whether or not you'll want to stick around for that depends. I personally found a lot of the later episodes interesting, but this is the general consensus on /co/ right now >>88367106 wistful for the old days where you could watch a stand alone episode and chuckle at its lolrandom style without the characters facing an existential crisis.

I wonder what /co/ will think of the overall show in the future. Not immediately after it ends. It'll no doubt face the same post-finale backlash as Gravity Falls, where people claim it was never even a decent show to begin with. I mean years down the line in the middle of another dark age of tv animation.
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>>88367097
Push through it. That's just how a lot of modern cartoons are for some reason. They start off really off-putting and dumb then get gradually more complex and intelligent. Steven Universe, Star vs, etc.
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>>88367274
>later seasons are better
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>>88367274
What do you like about those shows late seasons exactly? Excess shipping? Senseless drama? Complete removal of "fun?"

Disgusting.
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>>88367106
I rememebr 1-4 were good, and then it sucked har after that.
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>tfw superBarneyprohardonbubblineATfag and the cronies will descend upon this thread complaining that someone disagrees with their opinions
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>>88366779
We have MagicSwords now, That's pretty much the same.
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>>88367274
>then get gradually more complex and intelligent
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Can anyone explain to me why CN sucks so badly at putting out their shows on a reasonable schedule? Has it always been this way?
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>>88367576
The newest reason is Teen titans Go!
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>>88367589
Don't they have an entire fucking channel? There's more than one time slot in a day
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>>88367576
We traded Johnny Test for TTG. I remember Johnny Test being on for a lot of the day too. Another reason may be that TTGO sells more merchandise than we actually think and are outperforming SU and Gumball stuff.
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>>88366779
>potential Spongebob
Wouldn't that require Adventure Time to be an episodic show?
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>>88367097
Nope, don't let these cucks meme into believing it's worth it.
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>>88367594
Reminder that TTG had a 2 days special.
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>>88366779
>CN had their own potential Spongebob on their hands
Come on, I know it's the new contrarian thing act as if overhyped shows are awful, but don't pretend it took the same dramatic of decline in quality that Spongebob did. Besides, both shows have gone on for nearly the same amount of seasons.
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>>88367658
Unlike Spongebob, Adventure time was never good.
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>>88367097
Maybe watch a handful of more episodes. If it none of the jokes work for you at all, just forget it. There's a quite a few outliers but it may not be worth it for you to investigate which episodes those are if the core humor just falls flat.
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>>88367219
/co/ shits on everything eventually so it's sort of a pointless thing to wonder about.
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>>88367671
Hol up now, fag don't try to say AT was never good. I agree with >>88367658 the show may have fallen from the limelight, but it never got anywhere NEAR Season 6 Spongebob bad. Only the worst of the worst like Frost and Fire, Red Throne and Breezy got that low.
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>>88366779
Adventure Time belongs in the Trash can.
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>>88367699
>Hol up now, fag
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>>88367700
Bubbline does, not AT as a whole.
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>>88367710
Yeah, faggot. I said AT was and still is good (to a certain extent)

Problem faggot?
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>>88367715
>not AT as a whole.
Don't lie to yourself, Anon.
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Naw man. This show catered to tweens and older. They were hiring experimental/existential writers. It is stilling going to define childhood cartoons for at least 2 generations.
CN execs do this with every show for the last 15 years.
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>>88367756
Adventure Time ratings are doing like shit and the show is getting cancelled, No one cares about what you think, Anon.
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>>88366779
The show tried to be "2deep4U" and "LOLsoRadum" at the same time and it ended being nothing.
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>>88367781
>Adventure Time ratings are doing like shit
Its not even playing o the network regularly anymore and the only reason why the ratings for the season finale was shit is because they didn't even advertise it.
>getting cancelled
Its ending...in two fucking years.
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>>88366779
CN's ratings are down all across the board its not just AT nor does it have to do with quality.
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Anons who dislike or have lost interest in AT, do you 8honestly* think Finn is a not good/strong character (anymore or never has been) and a cuck?
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>>88367822
Don't lie to yourself, Anon.
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Adventure Time was a mistake and I hope Pendleton Ward burns in hell.
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>>88368009
Don't lie to yourself, Anon.
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>>88367832
i have no opinion and don't watch the show, but i'll be damned if i'm going to pass up an opportunity to type the word 'cuck', so yes, finn is a cuck
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The last episode I watched was Daddy-Daughter Card Wars, checked the Wiki and I've missed only two episodes (Preboot and Reboot).

That can't be right, right?
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>>88368274
Preboot and Reboot is Season 7's finale.

So, yes. It is correct.
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>>88368307
Fuck hiatuses.

Then what's next in Adventure Time?
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>>88368339
Q1 2017. Likely January since the Islands DVD is listed to come out in the same month.
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>>88366779
Regular Show is still suffering leagues beyond AT. I like both, and through the years I've noticed they sometimes jump ahead of one another on the subject of the network treating them like dirt, but for awhile AT because an icon (up until maybe half a year after TTG came out) on the network and RS slunk down to hardly nothing being mentioned. Eventually both lost reruns, lost advertisement, and the RS crew felt so bad about it they assumed they were getting canned any minute so they had to end it. AT gets 2 more seasons (+1 over RS) so it still has time to be noticed. Meanwhile RS is about to show its series finale and it's not being talked about at all and they won't give it a dignity shot with any kind of marathon, they won't even rerun the plot heavy episodes from this season for anyone not caught up.
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>>88367621
3. Friday Saturday and Sunday. Then the following next Sunday. This is of course if you mean marathon wise.
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>>88369081
My favorite part of the 2016 saga was when Regular Show aired 25 episodes in 3 weeks because it needed to get off the air asap for TTG.
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>>88368255
the word is legitimately addicting to use cuck
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>>88369081
>>88369158
>"we really fucking need something to air!"
>"how about regular show?"
>gets shot
>"how about the valentines special of madagascar?"
>gets promoted
>"isn't it decemeber though?"
>gets shot
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>>88367274
>complex
Yes

>intelligent
Come on now
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>>88369515
It has lesbian elements for all the hambeasts and waifu shitters to flock to.
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>>88367832
He used to be a pretty good character.

-Stupid, but still had a heart of gold.
-Would fight all kinds of evil, and sometimes even win despite the odds.

Now the writers turned him into an angsty idiot who's always depressed or suffering through something.

Screencap this post, they will kill off Jake to make Finn feel even hopeless.
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>>88367274
>complex and intelligent
>AT, Steven Universe, Star vs
I suppose this is what you start thinking when you only watch shitty cartoons your whole life
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>>88366779
airing two episodes every 6 months probably didnt help
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>>88367274
Don't compare Star Vs with the "duh lore" garbage people praise the everloving shit out of.
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The early seasons, when it was an actual Adventure Show, were good.

However the later Seasons turned into shipper drama BS. Right around the time they made Marceline lesbian and had a whole arc with Bubblegum about it
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>>88370619
I think it's the same problem Steven Universe is experiencing now.

The fandom/tumblir community latched onto certain aspects and the writers are aware of it and are pandering. However, it's backfiring in the long run because general audiences are tuning out.
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>>88367106
It's always the third season when it starts, isn't it?
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>>88367832
Last time I watched AT Finn was crying because an adult woman didn't want to be in an intimate relationship with a child.
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>>88367414
>MUH FUN
Oh, so you are one of those people...
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>>88367274
Lel
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>>88370691
>However, it's backfiring in the long run because general audiences are tuning out.
Is that actually happening? I don't mind the show but the day it gets cancelled I'll be very happy and waiting for the salt from the tumblr shitbags who are whining for validation.
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>>88370733
All shipping shit aside, she shoulda never built him up in the first place, especially near the end of Too Young. No ramifications about making him go through withdrawal and essentially, possibly creating all the relationship problems he's had ever since.
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>>88370159
Even if they did kill off Jake he'd be bought back an episode or two later. ATs biggest fault was failing to deliver on its promises
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>>88367832
When you had younger Finn presented with a crisis, he always managed to get through it by being idealistic, even romantic, and always determined to beat the bad guy, win the girl, and live happily ever after. Was he bothered by being the last human alive? Absolutely, but all of his friends encouraged him to not worry about the things he can't change, and instead focus on the good he's doing now. That lesson was carried over when he helped cure the greatest hero alive out of his depression, and that's what made Finn a strong character: He used his moments of crises and the lessons he learned from them to properly help others in the world around him.

What was unnecessary was him suddenly becoming completely angsty as he got older, because now you're removing the single character that represents hope and romanticism from the franchise. Dad is a total loser? Screw him, I've proven myself to be a good person, and I don't need his approval to know I'm a good person. Lost my arm? Don't care, at least now I get to replace it with something cool. Relationships aren't working out? Doesn't matter, because I'm still an important person in this world, and I still have people who love me.

The show had the potential to help young ones understand that even in magical worlds where anything can happen, some of that anything can be bad, and rather than letting the bad define us we can always focus on the positive, and become stronger over it. Instead it's encouraging people to make AMVs with Linkin Park like we're perpetually stuck in the 2000s and making kids think it's okay to be massive edgelords.
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>>88370710
Simpsons had 9 good seasons
but usually yes
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>>88370971
I like your response, anon!

Do you think his relationship with PB and FP are fully mended, or did they try and slap some story together to make the illusion of "progress" (I do get the feeling with PB still.)

Also, do ya think Finn will ever branch off from Jake and do his own thing. Siblings often do so, but it seems like he won't get out of that bubble crafted for him? What i'm really saying is will Finn become independent.
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>>88367274
How to people EVER reach this level of delusion.
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>>88369326
>>88369158
>>88369081
Honestly, I'm sure RS is gonna be one of those shows that no one will remember 1-3 years after it's over
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>>88366779
>Wanting Adventure Time to slog on for dozens of seasons.
I'm glad it's getting a merciful end at this point.
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Sometimes I wonder what these networkseven do.
Remeber Korra when they either aried it without advertisement somewhen late or at the end only via stream. No shit ratings drop if you put it more and more out of a watchable time for kids.
>Hurr AT is doing bad at ratings
Well perhaps it would do better if you would show it more then once a month a new episode so the large group of todays short memory kids remember that this is a thing and want to watch it
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>>88367097
I liked season 1-5, but it slowly goes more and more off the rails until season 6 when it just completely loses track of itself, season 7 has been nice though.
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>>88371137
Finn won't become independent without the writers doing something "tragic" like, as someone else in the thread said, killing off Jake, or banishing him to some alternative dimension. The show lost any possibility of making a decent transition for Finn to accept that he won't be a kid forever by prematurely making him go full-"angery" as well as making hackneyed drama.

None of the writers properly understand how to generate a "coming-of-age". If they had half a brain around the middle of season three they would have realized that Finn's final quest should be a parallel to his first real quest, which was to get the Enchiridion, only this time making it a sort of Holy Grail / Dante's Inferno in the spiritual sense. Have Billy's spirit act like Virgil and guide Finn in his final year. Have Jake and Finn argue over being pragmatic and being idealistic. Have Finn, for the first time (if the writers hadn't fucked everything up) genuinely doubt himself while being all alone. Have everyone believe that the "magical item" Finn and Jake fight to get to save the world is a real thing, when the reality is that it's just a personal experience that puts to the test everything Finn has been taught to see what he really believes. There is no danger for the whole material world, but the danger is Finn's perspective of the world, and that is the journey that he's sent on for the final season.

However, this can no longer be done without being forced by the writers because of the unnecessary drama they've thrown into the franchise throughout the years. Anything Finn can experience now will seem like a terribly-written episode of Dawson's Creek, because the writers have turned Adventure Time into their own fanfiction wankfest like so many popular cartoons become. Don't expect anything to really be resolved in AT; it will be like every other cartoon, just another forced ending that will require you to view it with rose-tinted glasses and re-write it with your own headcanon.
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>>88366779
Steven Universe surpassed its numbers a while ago
Show went to shit after Sugar left anyways
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>>88366779
Newsflash update! Cartton Network's main demographic are children not manchildren who still live with their parents.
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>>88372247
>just another forced ending that will require you to view it with rose-tinted glasses and re-write it with your own headcanon.
my headcanon's pretty fucking dead though. I thought, as he hit those later years in his life, he'd open an "Adventurer's Academy" of some sorts to train up and coming youth to defend and protect the citizens of Ooo once he passed on. yeah I know it's shit

Also, is it just me or when Finn started to become more angst-y, his fighting (and idealistic) characteristics seem to have gone down the tube? I can't for the life of me remember the last time he's curb stomped some bad guy in a battle.

A friend of mines said "The danger in that is that the show isn't meant to be some kind of autobiographical therapy wank, Finn should be his own character, not a box for them to put anecdotes in." and I think that rings true to this day.
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>>88366779
Normally im all about artistic freedom. But CN shouldve had more control so the writers didnt make it into an artsy fuckfest. I dropped it around the time finn meet his father then nothing happend. I remember really being insulted when FP left and fucked a cinnabon, and the bigbad who was legitimately frightening for a kids show was turned into a fucking giant baby. If any show deserves a reboot with actual competant writers, its adventure time.
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>>88366779
>>88367012
Justice League Action needs to replace all of their shows. Then have spinoffs based on the characters.
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>>88372631
>FP left and fucked a cinnabon
She didn't fuck CB. As much as I despise that arc and the porn sprouted from it, don't make the diehard fans come out the woodwork that's false.
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>>88367414
Yeah. Notice how shows parallel tumblr and start to get worse.
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>>88372696
The fucking subtext says it all. If her firey cunt isnt filled with frosting then i will fuck myself with a replica of lucielle
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>>88372735
What subtext?
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>>88366779

Every cartoon on CN is suffering, they were doing okay awhile ago now every single one across the board is suffering aside from Teen Titans GO. Look at poor Uncle Grandpa.
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>>88367097

I stopped keeping up after Mortal Recoil? or whatever. What was that, like 4 years ago?
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>>88372799
Negans bat
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>>88372735
Tell me this is a cover for an actual track please.
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>>88367658
>dramatic of decline in quality that Spongebob did
Your memes don't work on me. New Spongebob is still good despite what people say.
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>>88367576
Because little kids don't watch TV on a schedule and man babies don't understand cartoon Network is for little kids not adults
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>>88372847
Sadly not, but heres this instead
>>88372901
Its suprisngly got a whole hell of alot better then it was. The past 3-4 years have been good for spongebob.
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>>88366779
>SU is a potential replacement
>put it in hiatus hell
>air it in "bombs"
>keep the fans in the dark on when the next episode comes out
>spoiler the ever loving fuck out of it by showing key scenes in promos and online
Yes, they do want to fail. Either that, or the people running this shit are literally retarded.
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>>88372915
>man babies don't understand cartoon Network is for little kids not adults
Then why does CN aim a large chunk of their shit for manchildren and edgy teens?
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>>88372826
>watching/reading The Talking Dad
>still
You are either a normie sack of shit or a masochist.
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>>88372996
What can i say, i love zombies
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>>88370816
Bubblegum is evil and manipulative.
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>>88372941
>Yes, they do want to fail. Either that, or the people running this shit are literally retarded
Hanlon's razor, anon.
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>>88373277
She's hot, though.
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>>88367671
/thread
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>>88372696
Well Have we ever considered all the facts? Cinnabon is living in the fire kingdom aka dick 24/7 for FP. Also has fin ever had bluestuff on to protect him so he could do it with FP? also woman love seeing a guy and saying "i could change him" plus she did! Last but not least cinnabon has sweet frosting as cum thats a huge plus.
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>>88371658
Honestly, I'm pretty sure you're wrong

Regular Show is the most memorable cartoon CN has had in years. It ending is the bigger tragedy than AT ending.
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>"CN had their own potential Spongebob on their hands"
>OP shows picture of AT
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>>88373490
>Regular Show is the most memorable cartoon CN has had in years.
Is it really? Because I had never even knew it existed until I saw it in /co/.
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>>88373277
You don't have to like a character as a person to be entertained by them.
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>>88373578
To be fair, it was pretty popular five years ago.
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>>88373490
I've seen many many many different people say they thought the show ended years ago. On youtube comments, the CN's site's comments, people on here, the leddit and Tumblr, almost all of them I went to specifically to see how the show was holding up in different factions of the social ladder.

A good few of them were because they dropped it and never heard of it again, but the majority said they missed a few episodes but really liked the show, but reruns ceasing to exist and no promotions for a fuck ton of episodes had them forget. Not just teens saying that either, actual kids like in the youtube comments, asking if the show was being "brought back". It's pretty fucking aggravating people truly believed it "came back" because CN is just that fucking horrible at showing it, promoting it, and merchandising it.

If it is forgotten within 1-3 years, it will be the network's fault. I know many people have dropped it since it started, but those people are still likely to remember the first few seasons at least, until they just stop thinking about it; they just stop seeing it on the network or online because the online people who would be talking about it forgot because they're the ones watching TV.
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>>88373660
To me, "potential SpongeBob" entails both popularity and quality.

It did have popularity, but not near the same degree.

It never had quality
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>>88373594
It's memorable for people who are 90s kids, mainly. The music, the atmosphere, and their personalities hit home with viewers who were born in the 80s or were first-world poor in the 90s which is what allowed it to stick so long despite the space shit. That, and creating a 30-minute episode solely devoted to every entry-level anime that aired in the US in the late 90s / 00s sucked in all the weeaboos halfway through its run.

It's memorable for the past five years, but not THE GREATEST thing CN has produced.
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>>88369081
It really is a shame. Especially since these shows are responsible for why the network got so popular again

Good cartoons are rare. They're acting like they're not
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>>88366779
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>>88373791
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>>88373775
They're not when shit like Teen Titans Go is being told to them that it's basically god sent.
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>>88373594
That's just a commentary on how shitty CN can be

Although it was nice to enjoy a show without all the weirdos (and pandering to those weirdos) that you get when you have a heavily promoted show I guess. RS was kind of like a cozy best kept open secret
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>>88373791
Arbitrary as fuck.
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>>88370710
>>88371079
Arthur hasn't had a bad season yet.
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>>88373970
Arthur hasn't been good since 01-02
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>>88367274
steven universe's only good season is the first.

monster of the week> boring melodrama.
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>>88373791
There's so much wrong with this but Dave the Barbarian being in the middle is the worst offender
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>>88374118
Someday everyone will realize this.
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>>88374118
>monster of the week> boring melodrama.
How very rebellious and unique of you to think so.
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>>88370710
Generally because the first season is trying to get traction and the second season has the strongest mix of initial ideas and storycrafting. Season three is usually when the idea fountain starts to run a little dry or they switch to different writers/producers/etc

Although I'd say season three of South Park is when it really took off for me
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>>88366779
Honestly the show didn't do that much wrong other than airing long enough to have people lose interest.

Even with all the flaws there were from changing the tone as the show went on, that was probably a good decision in the end as far as popularity goes. Had the show stayed being about Finn and Jake fighting some bad guy and rescuing some lady instead of evolving I'm sure most of the fans would have gotten tired of it, and that wasn't what the writers wanted to do so they wouldn't be as enthusiastic anymore and soon after that their work would get shittier.

AT's biggest flaw is in fact that it didn't go in this direction hard enough since they didn't wanna leave their wacky adventure comfort zone. Gotta go hard or go home, them half assing it mostly led to everyone getting pissed off in some way and now only the diehards are left.

Even so AT is gonna be remembered for a while, and the way it practically saved CN cartoon-wise is something I'll always appreciate.
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>>88366779
>>CN had their own potential Spongebob on their hands
I'm pretty sure The Amazing World of Gumball is the Spongebob equivalent of CN, and it's doing pretty well even if it doesn't have a big fanbase.
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>>88367097

I don't consider myself a fan of Adventure Time, but I think you should stick with it a little longer. Among the numerous random, pretentious episodes and cluttered, contradictory plot lines, there are a few that legitimately qualify as beautifully realized.

>>88369081

They shouldn't feel bad. CN has been more than fair to them to keep it going this long. It's well past its prime.
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>>88374910
>They shouldn't feel bad. CN has been more than fair to them to keep it going this long. It's well past its prime.
Yea any show who has 4+ seasons should feel grateful, but it's pretty shitty to have the looming thought your show could be canned any minute and the higher ups won't help you out on it.

JG asked CN to let them know when the time was coming, and while no one knows what they said in response, it can be assumed they said sure. But with the show being taken off the network for a few years straight, the merchandise run being so bad you notice yourself (which creators in this day and age usually aren't even aware of to an extent) and make a half hour special to try to make light of it, and while other shows are getting shorts and movie specials, you get told you can do them but it takes the slots out of the current season, it makes it look like you're really just not wanted.

Regular Show is certainly not wanted anymore, and it's a shame JG couldn't be happy while working on Season 6 and 7, because he felt like they were going to fuck him over more and more until the game was over.
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>>88374118
>first season is the best
>townie episodes
>poorly fitted models of the characters
>No sardonix
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>>88375194
>sardonix
That annoying voice makes me want to murder everyone who likes it.
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>>88372915
>Because little kids don't watch TV on a schedule
When I was a kid I made sure to get in front of the TV every single week for power rangers.
That's besides the point anyway. If kids don't care either way then why not just put out a season on a schedule
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>>88375262
Not before I murder you, you heretic.
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>>88374118
I honestly completely forgot that the first season had monsters of the week. What happened with that? Why did they stop?
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>>88375364
Kek this is amazing
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>>88375364
>tfw I got banned for posting the porn he used in this
Worth it.
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>>88375497
Another one
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>>88375364
>I mean, look at this one! you stripped him of everything! His gender! His taste! His dignity!
>I still have one of those things
kek
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>>88375038
I feel bad for you JG, RS honestly is one of the greatest cartoons ever in my opinion. Really sad to see it go, it doesn't deserve to be canceled. Thanks for making a good cartoon that actually stayed good pretty much throughout its entire run.
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>>88374030
How about you prove that statement?
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>>88367274
>SU, Star vs
>complex and intelligent
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>>88375038

I don't discount the stress he must be under, but the cancellation axe is constantly hovering over every tv show. That's the norm. Spongebob is one of the exceptions. Hell, I would count Regular Show as one. I would rather reserve my sympathies for shows that were strangled in their cribs than ones that got 3 more seasons than they needed.

Every season CN funded after RS began to wane, was money that could have gone into developing new shows with fresh ideas.

>the merchandise run being so bad you notice yourself

As far as toys are concerned, they have no one to blame but themselves. The art style doesn't translate well to toys.
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>>88367658
current spongebob is truly a square
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>>88373791
You really put teen titans higher than Batman TAS?
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>>88375853
I guess colors don't translate well to toys either, or basic understanding of how things work.
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>>88376037
>muscle man
Did they run out of pink and white? Wtf, people collect this.
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>>88376037
I just roll my eyes and move on whenever I see this image posted, but I come right back to laugh at how they left out High 5. It just really gets me.
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>>88376037

There's a second set that got much closer.
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I am not from USA but I have NEVER seen any merchandise from Teen Titans Go ever, and I have seen tons of Adventure Time and even few of Regular Show.

What kind of merchandise does it sells?
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>>88366779
I stopped watching when they did that train episode mocking the fanbase and all the stupid romance shit. Why do all modern cartoons have to show some subset romance plot and make entire episodes answering tumblr questions?
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>>88376447
>I stopped watching when they did that train episode mocking the fanbase

Is that what that was? I thought it was about people obsessed with rpgs.
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>>88375845
>AT
>Complex and intelligent
It's babies first avant-garde 2deep4u
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>>88375588
You know this would be nice if SU was actually limited to their general and mods did their job properly. How many times do I have to report these things?
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>>88376787
>stop talking about a cartoon on the cartoon board because I don't like the specific cartoon
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>>88376447
>Why do all modern cartoons have to show some subset romance plot
They've been doing this forever and stopped me from watching cartoons for a while. It REALLY got me annoyed because there wasn't a single show that didn't fall victim to this. I'm pretty sure it has to do with wanting the female audience, since they apparently like that stuff.
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>>88376817
Gee well in that case I better make 500 Spongebob threads discussing various aspects of the show. I'll do it too, if you keep this up.

I never said "ban all discussion of the show" I just said "keep it in your containment thread." Or at least type in "Steven Universe" or "SU" in the opening post so it can get filtered properly.
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>>88374118
it hurts to admit, but basically yes. Holy shit yes.
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>>88369081
Adventure Time also gets full season box sets. Regular Show only has three seasons on R1 DVD and they are edits.
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>>88366779
They have reason to believe that starting new franchises is more beneficial, regardless of fan following.
Think about it.
Steven universe, relatively new. Blew up. The moment it starts going under they'll probably cut it off and Rebecca sugar will do something else. Most likely with even more lesbians and personified innanimate objects.
That one with the bears, blew up, at least for a while. >looks like we gotta start a new one again, get them veiwership spikes, amirite fellow producers??
See what I mean. At least until they hit gold again, I'm pretty sure they'll stick with this trend. Fandoms make-or-break a show, and kids are moving through trends faster than I can dab. Go ahead and quote me on that, anon.
I honestly think that's part of the reason adventure time has lasted as long as it has; it appealed to a wide verity of ages, and was still enjoyable even when you got older. Prove me wrong?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytKt2LT61aA
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>>88377884
Hey. Thank you anon. That was a nice thing for you to do.

Here, have my prized flame princess.
It was given to me by a draw friend here in /co/.

Merry Christmas.
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>>88367219
I liked the pathos and lore. My problem is that after Sucrose left, the show wasn't able to do pathos or lore properly.
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>>88377957
I think people give her too much credit. She only wrote a few episodes. And Steven Universe hasn't handed that stuff very gracefully either.
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>>88367097
Season 1 and 2 are good except the occasional gross-out or shit like Tree Trunks

like >>88367106 said it starts losing its way afterwards
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>>88378004
I think season 4 had the best balance between comedy, adventure, and "deep" stuff. It started getting bad after that.
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>>88366779
>CN had their own potential Spongebob on their hands
You mean TTG?
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>>88377884
GOD DAMN IT I HATE SUSAN.
NO.
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>>88367097
1st season can be a drag if you don't like the kid's voice.

But the quirky writing is generally the same throughout.
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>>88377884
Get used to this screenshot because the bubbline fags are going to post it in every thread continuing after this one, and it'll die down halfway through S8.

Stop having them together for god's sake.
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>>88367832
He's a good character, it's just that for so long the writers have either completely ignored what makes him good, or showcased how those around him are better and more important than him in every way.
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>>88378186
I hate almost all of PB's constant attire changes. They keep trying to make her look a certain way and it just looks like shit, and it's almost always when Marceline is around.

>>88377884
I haven't seen The Visitor in a long time but I'm thinking that big robot in the water was from the story Martin was telling Finn about his time as a baby on the seas. It works just well with the humans on an island story, plus the fact this is a whole miniseries on the seas too just like that story.
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>>88378004
Dude Tree Trunks was great and would have been an unequivocal 10/10 if the network had let her stay dead. One of the best endings in the show right there.
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>>88373791
I was gonna go off on so many choices, but it's just not worth it. Horrible.
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>>88378186
>Marceline with human skin
It's the lighting from the sun right? Hmm. Even I don't remember Marceline's completion being like that around evening ever in the show.

WHY IS SHE EVEN CARRYING AROUND AN UMBRELLA WHEN SHE HAS THE SPECIAL SUNSCRENN WRYYYYY

>that outfit
pic related
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>>88378357
Don't bring up that stupid fucking sunscreen man, I'm still annoyed at that. Such a lazy concept that just makes Marceline less cool, I'm glad they're still having her use umbrellas and stuff to protect her from the sun instead of just brushing it off with "SPF 5,000,000 lol."

Her skin does look weird though, guess it's the lighting.
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>>88377884
very cool
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>>88377884
>land on island away from Ooo
>arm rips off and becomes its own man

>in the theme song for the miniseries the 2 inhabitants of Ooo and your arm guy from the island you're on are both on a 3rd location waving goodbye as you go off to go to a 4th location

clusterfuck imminent, why are those two lesbos even there
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>>88378499
Because PB and Marcy apparently have an episode (or more) to themselves in a Finn centered miniseries.

Gotta push Finn out the picture to have them come close together. Matter of fact, that's been a trend as of late even during Stakes.
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>>88378609
been a trend since like season 5 more like it
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>>88366779
Honestly. As much reverence as i still have for the show. It did kickstart another golden age of television animation. I'm glad it's ending.

It's been a weird, flawed, disappointing, but still ultimately fun ride. Even if it ends rather disappointingly, the journey was still worth it.
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>>88366779
The ratings dropped as low as 770,000. Also CN and Disney Channel are the only networks that know when a show should end.
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>>88378683
Those ratings were entirely CN being retarded. The show came back after like a 4 month hiatus, was airing at a different time on a different day, and they showed virtually no commercials for it. I'm impressed it got as many views as it did.
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>>88378725
it aired in the shadows of the fucking muppet movie with one "coming up next, a new adventure time" bumper
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>>88378683
>CN and Disney Channel are the only networks that know when a show should end

Nah, not Disney. Their animation department was messed up for a quite a while.

Anything not called Phineas and Ferb was killed. Emperors New School and Replacements just got erased from existence and nothing else came out for like 5 years until Gravity Falls and Wander over Yonder, and even those barely outlasted P&F.
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>>88378499
It looks more like grass Marcie and PB are waving him off Ooo.

>>88378609
>Because PB and Marcy apparently have an episode (or more) to themselves in a Finn centered miniseries.
If this is the case I am mad. They had a whole fucking mini. THE FIRST MINI. Can they fuck off for a bit perhaps?
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>>88377884
is that
another
god damn
fucking SWORD
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Will pic related ever make a proper comeback? He'd be the only thing watching a new episode for.
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>>88377884
Is the robot that's rising out of the sea near the beginning supposed to possibly be the one that appeared in the shadows at the end of Martins story of how Finn was born?
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>>88367526
Magiswords is even more random than Adventure Time and Regular Show, but less than Uncle Grandpa.

>>88367612
It was episodic for the majority of Seasons 1-3.

>>88370736
Why would you watch, play, read, or listen to something you don't find interesting? Of course, fun isn't the only way to be interesting.

>>88371079
Simpsons had 8 good seasons, and season 1 is pushing it.

>>88372819
Season 2 ended 5 years ago.

>>88373723
Don't lie to yourself, Anon.

>>88375935
That's Mr. Enter's "Good Cartoon Ruler" from 2014.
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>>88379174
He hasn't come back since he got babified but I'm very confident that he'll return eventually; they didn't kill him, only contained him, and that made me sure that he's coming back eventually. Maybe the movie or something.
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>>88378905
At least Phineas and Ferb actually ended and Gravity Falls felt like a summer vacation.
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>>88379236
There's been no information at all about the movie since its initial announcement. Unless it's the series finale, I can't see it happening.
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>>88379166
yes. expect it to be lost during or after the miniseries

>>88379120
No Hanna K and Partridge want you to feel the full extent of their newfound lesbo love. Even if it comes at the expense of developing Finn properly.
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>>88379236
>He hasn't come back since he got babified

Well, yes and no.

Sweet Pea (the baby he turned into) is still around and acts innocent enough, but The Lich did manifest itself for a short period in order to protect SP. He's still there, just waiting for the right time, like he did in Prismos room.
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>>88379283
I'm pretty sure there was some mention of the movie still being worked on at some point the past few months but I can't be sure.

At any rate if they need a plot for the movie defeating the Lich once and for all is a pretty easy one to go for, so I consider it a valid possibility.
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>>88379196

>That's Mr. Enter's "Good Cartoon Ruler" from 2014.

How can one man have taste so shitty?
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>>88379420
Not gonna comment, but here's his "Bad Cartoon Ruler" from 2014.
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>>88367621
Only other show to ever do this was Naruto
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>>88379293
P-please no
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>>88379545
If you're a Britfag, SpongeBob had a 502-HOUR MARATHON in summer 2011.
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>>88379607
For what purpose?
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Will the adventure time movie even be 2D animated or CGI?
More importantly will the animation even be good or will they just half ass everything just to get the franchise over with? They better not, Ward has had tons of free time to work on that shit.
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>>88379625
Having kids vote for which character is the best. Of course, the sponge himself won.
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I literally just dropped the show when the bee made Finn regrow his arm back.

That was the moment when I understood this shit will never change the status quo and my time was lost. Then I saw the one or two episodes where Ice King is back to his old self and his girlfriend travels to be with him or some bullshit and holy fuck I'm glad I stopped caring.

When this show started, I loved seasons 1 and 2, and liked some more lore from season 3, because it was a fresh thing, but looking back - worst idea they ever had, since they never could really do anything meaningful, but also it was hard to go back to the relaxing style of the first two seasons. Killed the Adventure aspect.
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>>88379724
On the bright side, the upcoming Islands miniseries is adventure-themed, and it's confirmed that Finn will lose his arm again.
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>>88379724
This is valid but there's still other stuff to enjoy in the show. Plus Finn finally did get that new arm, unless they pull a fast one again after Islands.
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>>88378186
its canon.
Why does this trigger people so much? lol
PB doesn't even care about Finn
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>>88379691
Apparently they are just going to have 3D models and use stylized backgrounds to save some money.
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>>88379607
Wasn't there one where they were counting down to the fan voted best episode?
Karate Island won if I remember correctly.
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>>88379831
oh for fuck's sake.
I guess ill pirate it whenever it comes out.
This show is dead any way
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>>88379831
Cool job pulling stuff out of your ass bro, they've said nothing about the movie.
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>>88379794
Because people think if they built off their pre Season 3 personalities, they'd be vastly superior characters than what they are today. Feels more like they write the two as lesbians to fill a quota and to "validate" themselves and their kin. Getting brownie points and pats on the back rather than making characters stand out on their own.

When people look back on AT, they'll recognize them as "the lesbians" paramount to any other description.

>PB doesn't even care about Finn
What we need is more Pajama War and Bun Bun episodes to mend the rift he has with PB and FP.. Just shooting the shit with no romance drama that has plagued his character for 4 long years.

>>88379848
It did. And it was horseshit it should've been F.U.N., Band Geeks, Chocolate With Nuts or some other obviously more well received and cherished episode.
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>>88379945
Yeah but it could be true.
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>>88366779
too bad the real spongebob had the 10th season.
AT no.
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>>88379969
I miss the days when dad eating Marceline's fries was a serious and deep thing for her to sing and the joke to summon him was drawing that stupid face.

Now it's all about serious drama, big revelations and who the fuck cares what else - they went with the joke so far, they started taking the lore seriously. I understand why the creator left, when obviously no one wanted to make fun stuff after a while and he saw what hole they were digging themselves into.

And fuck Sugar, since it all started from her influence.
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>>88380078
But Anon, Sugar wrote the best episode, which was in a decline season.
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>>88373791
>Zatch Bell
Of all the anime they aired...
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>>88380143
Yeah, the episode was great. Shame they were just jumping around and never had a fleshed out idea how to make everything connect, with the cracks getting too big around Finn the Human episode.

Also, I still think the pillow world episode was better.
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>>88380252
Betty could have been great if it were the two-parter. Instead, we got Lemonhope.
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>>88380252
>best wife for Finn lost forever
FUCKING RIP. Writers have such a hard on for the dykes and wanna rip every possible compatible love interest away from Finn. First PB, them FP, Roselinen, Marcy, Canyon, HW?

These savages need to be put down.
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>>88380341
Whoops forgot jmage
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>>88380341
To be fair, Roselinen never actually existed.
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>>88380387
You take that back, kid. Literally best female character in the series.
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>>88380418
Yes, but she was perfect because she was part of a dream.
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>>88380341
>>88380383
I always took that episode to be saying that Finn's only gonna be happy with a regular girl who isn't a princess or wizard or something like that. Finn just doesn't mesh with those people and all his romantic turmoil has been because he's been barking up the wrong tree.

Probably not intentional but I like that theory, makes sense to me. Kid's doomed if he stays on his current path.
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>>88379969
>What we need is more Pajama War and Bun Bun episodes to mend the rift he has with PB
The writers have been trying, but they are failing miserably. Its just really awkward now. When PB and Finn were flying on her swan he tried making conversation and she just kind of ignored him the whole way. Or the time when he had his arm around her and she slapped it off.
Really embarrassing and doesn't look like they are trying to repair their relationship at all. More like they are trying to destroy it permanently.
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>>88380470
Wait, I dropped after the bee episode. What happened since then? Finn saw his space pirate dad again? Marceline and PB did something?
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>>88379991
>>88379831
Aw fuck you I actually fell for that.

take your autistic asspulls somewhere else.
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>>88380499
Quite a lot has happened since the breezy shit and I don't feel like listing all of it. Maybe someone else will do it
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>>88380450
It makes sense, but when would Finn find a girl like Roselinen?
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>>88380527
It's freaking Ooo dude, there's gotta be tons of regular girls who would be chomping at the bit for a cool hero boyfriend who's saved the world like five times. Finn just has to go out there and find one of em.

Who knows, maybe there will be some human cutie in Islands or some shit.
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>>88380470
I mean there WAS Pajama War which mended the rifts pretty significantly, but after that was a pretty downhill slope.

It's like Somvilay and Seo Kim are open to the idea of them being close platonic friends, but since a good portion of the other writers either A) dislike Finn or B) have a boner for Bubbline they're vehemently opposed to them having shared sceeentime without any sort of tension between the two.

Who the fuck would honestly put that hand slap scene in there besides someone who wants PB and Marcy to let out?
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>>88380616
Also, remember that scene in "Don't Look" where Finn turned into a nasty characture of Martin. Jake rounded up some of the people that have been near and dear to him over the years (Minus FP and Marcy because fuck that amirite) to try to cheer him up. PB said: "He may not be the most cunning of soldiers, but one thing about him is that he puts other people first. And that makes him a true hero."

This results in him turning into a knight for a second before going back to his Martin self. Which leads me to believe that he didn't take her words at full value.
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>>88377884
aww, I would have liked it if Marceline and Bubblegum got to do something too instead of totally sitting this one out. i really liked the whole gang working together in Stakes and would have liked it here too.

then again had Marcy and PB come I'm sure they would have been annoyingly glued to the hip like in Stakes so this is probably the better result. let them scissor offscreen and all that.
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>>88380840
They're gonna let out in the episode dedicated to themselves while grass sword Finn watches and tries to deduce what the shit is going on.
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>>88377884
Very disappointed they didn't give Finn a cool outfit for the miniseries like Marceline got for hers but I guess that's to be expected
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-Regular Show is ending
-Adventure Time is ending
-Disney XD just cucked them out of Pokemon
-all they have is that bullshit called Teen Titans Go!

Someone please shoop the JUST hair on the CN logo.

This used to be my favorite network on TV. The late 90s and early 00s was golden for this channel.. then it went to the bottom of the barrel fast. They came back a bit with AT, RS and SU but they're now ending two of those with nothing to replace them.

I've never seen a channel go down so fast as Cartoon Network did.
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>>88381107
Finn doesn't get special stuff like Marceline because she isn't the main character. As ass backwards as that is. Marcy's got all the cool stuff backstory and fans leeching at her feet while Finn has....eh. Marcy > Finn now.

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN?!
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>>88381146
It's not like CN did anything with the Pokémon dub that only kids watched.
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>>88381178
I get that but they've given him some costumes this season, like Crossover or pic related and stuff. I guess I was foolish enough to hope that this trend would continue for the miniseries.

Poor Finn is gonna be wearing that same blue shirt and shorts onto his deathbed at this rate.
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>>88377957
She was one storyboarder.
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>>88380252
I loved Puhoy. Season 5 gets a lot of shit, but it had a lot of stellar episodes.
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>>88367730
saying fag a lot doesnt make u look tough dude
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>>88371904
>All that Teen Titans Go!

God damn it is the new Spongebob.
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>>88379969
>Because people think if they built off their pre Season 3 personalities, they'd be vastly superior characters than what they are today.

Ehh, you could argue that with Marceline maybe, but PB's character has been consistent throughout.
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>>88366779
CN is one of the biggest, dumbest networks on modern television. They are becoming irrelevant with the invention of the internet and their only recourse is to grab at scraps.
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>>88373630
This. PB is the most compelling character in the show, but she's a terrible person.
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I think the show starting getting bad right around the dad episodes where Finn finds his "dad". Shit just got weirder and the plot stopped clicking. There were no longer overarching plots or anything remotely continued. It just made every episode it's own and that was a bit retarded, because they don't do it well.
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>>88371904
holy shit is this real
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Adventure Time season 7 is literally the best season. Fight me.
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>>88378186
Her ass looks huge.
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>>88379174
Save his emergence until season 9. The final battle with the Lich should be the show ender.
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>>88371904
>that one solid column of pure TTGO
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>>88382062
You're right
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>>88382062
I respect that opinion. Stakes was epic.
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>>88382513
I liked stakes. Mostly for the vampire villains. But I see it as a separate thing.
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>>88381632
>It just made every episode it's own and that was a bit retarded, because they don't do it well.

Are you on drugs? The show excels with stand alone episodes, and struggles with overarching plots. Season 6 was the most narrative driven season of the lot.
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>>88382062
It was certainly good but I'd disagree mai man. Took a while to really get going (I think it only started getting good after that first bomb episode in January) and there were some clunkers in it, like Broke His Crown and a few others I thought were clunkers. Didn't have the greatest ending either.

Was certainly good though, I'd probably put it on the same level as season 4.
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>>88382704
Even the best AT seasons have duds. People just remember the season 7 duds more clearly because it's fresh.
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>>88382812
Very true, I just think on the whole 7's duds dragged it down a bit more than some other seasons.
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>>88366779
Correlation doesn't mean causation. You are a fool if you think your new favorite show isn't their Spongebob.
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>>88382874
fair enough
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bamp
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>>88366779
Rebecca Sugar
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>>88367756
>This show catered to tweens and older. They were hiring experimental/existential writers
Thats the reason this shows, and some other ones who do this too, are shit. I liked AT when it was a silly cartoon show, not a pseudo experimental show
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>>88372941
>potential replacement
It's premsie alone lessens its chance to become one, its good but as you can see not everyone like a show with a fat boy and his 3 actually not lesbian tutors
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>>88379166
>>88379293
Honestly with how many swords he's lost he should just say "you know what, I'm switching to a mace" or something.
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>>88380450
The real interpretation is that the only action Finn is ever going to get is dry humping his pillow.
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>>88385017
He already got his rocks off in LSP though
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I'm gonna miss the desolate feeling that surrounded Finn's character with him being the last human in such an alien world, but I guess that hasn't been present for a few years now considering all the half humans they added into the series.

I certainly hope they do interesting stuff with this though, because adding a whole colony of humans really alters the show's setting.
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>>88385678
I miss that perky, enthusiastic attitude that he always had that put a smile on your face. Maybe it was due to his VA being younger along with him.
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>>88367274
You mean it starts out as a show for kids but then become a complex and intelligent show for complex and intelligent individuals such as yourself?
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>>88385864
It really did have nice juxtaposition with the ruined world he was frolicking in. I loved how it was even hinted that it was a bit of an act and if he actually thought about that kind of stuff he would start to feel bad about it.
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>>88385985
>I loved how it was even hinted that it was a bit of an act and if he actually thought about that kind of stuff he would start to feel bad about it.
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>>88385864
his VA probably can't pull off enthusiastic anymore
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>>88385864
He's grown up and lost a lot of that innocence but even in the latest episode it's not all gone.

I liked how in preboot he wasn't terrified or disgusted with Dr. Gross's modifications. I liked that his face lit up in aw instead. If she didn't drug him he probably would have been down for some cybernetic enhancements.
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>>88366779
Maybe I just got older but I feel like this show completely fucking tanked around when Flame Princess got introduced. It went from a fun, weird show that was always interesting and was reminiscent of classic RPGs to some faggy tumblr drama with "muh dramatic overarching plot that you wouldnt expect in a kids show".
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>>88385985

This is a big part of it. They did so good early on with setting up that it was obvious that he was either coping with a facade, or was actually shellshocked into being naive as a defense mechanism, but after the arc with his dad that pretty much dried up.

They tend to do that with a lot of the characterizations.

PB was great as this kind of reverse-sociopath who's only concern was the greater good and keeping the gears moving, no matter the cost or how she had to manipulate it, but they broke down a lot of that cold-but-knowing-matriarch in favor of softening her up for homoerotic shipping
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>>88387176

It went from solid to hit-or-miss.

It does have some solid ideas at least since then (albeit with varying degrees of success in execution.)

The storylines involving Jake's past and his kids have been pretty good at throwing us back to his nature as the kind of manchild who's had the world thrust on him and he just shirked all responsibility.

Ice King went from kind of waffling as a bad guy but maybe good guy deep inside back into the isolationist and shown even a bit of his depravity, which has been nice.

And all of the BMO centered stories are great in the "childhood self-discovery" vein.

But the rest of the show proper- particularly Finn's storylines- have kind of fallen apart.
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>>88387204
I still think the way they handled Finn hasn't been that bad but PB has been pretty clumsy at best.

It's still so dumb how the show built her up as someone who was so concerned with protecting her kingdom by any means possible but then another character yelled at her a bit and now she's totally nice and boring. Dumb as hell.
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>>88387413
>I still think the way they handled Finn hasn't been that bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H5WF4geaD0

Bob is Fans of Finn and Tina are AT Writers
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>>88387176
FP's storyline could have been better if more of the writers gave a shit. Instead the same two people got her episodes most of the time and they were sporadic to begin with.
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>>88387497
Hey man, they're doing Islands now, they're learning I think. Maybe.
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>>88377884
Looks and sounds like shit, just like the show and its fans.
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>>88387562
Why are you even here?
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>>88387531
>FP's storyline could have been better if more of the writers gave a shit.

fwiw them burying everything FP has been the best part of the show. The less time they spend on the Actual Cuckoldry storyline of the show, the better.
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>>88386306
>>88385678
>>88385864
>yfw Finn will likely hit 17 in the miniseries and still no design change

When will the growth spur happen bros
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>>88387733
Last episode of the show my man. In the meantime you'll have to subsist on fanart.

Aside from the ponytail (which I admire for doing something interesting with Finn's hair but can't get behind because it looks weird) this one may be my favorite.
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>>88387669
Because they fucked it up to begin with. It's always the lack of planning ahead with AT.

'member when they got someone to make a Finn/FP graphic novel and it came out just before Finn's sadism boner broke them up? That shit should have been in the real show itself.
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>>88387825
Oh jesus I wish I could forget about Playing With Fire forever. Such a shit show. I feel so bad for FP that the best thing involving her wasn't even the actual damn show. I wish her trying to be a hero could have happened in canon.

>that big part with FP crying out I LOVE HIM
>Finn fucked everything up like 2 months later
Gotta say Adventure Time, you make it really hard to like you at times.
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Maybe we should start our own 'Mushroom War' so we can have our own "Adventure Time".
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>>88387902
Nah.
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>Adventure Time helped bring CN out of the slump they were in after CN real
>TTG basically ruined the channel again
Despite its ups and downs, AT will be remembered fondly

TTG will just be that horrible thing that happened, everyone tries to forget
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>>88367097
The show starts out really silly and nonsensical, and changes as Finn ages. It starts to get really emotional and relationship drama-y around season 4-5, but then gets really toned down and philosophical and existential, and often extremely experimental. Most people on /co/ don't like this change. I mean, I'm not surprised, it can get very avant garde these days and the people here who liked the show when it started probably aren't into that sort of thing for the most part.

If that sounds like your cup of tea go for it. It does get less focused on the humor and randomness of season 1 and 2, but it always stays weird and surreal.
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>>88387975
fuck it man, ttg makes me smile

so much buttmad, thread after thread, it makes me almost feel a touch guilty

almost
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>>88388023
People like to call it "Philosophy 101 garbage" forgetting that first year philosophy is the most fun year.
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>>88387902
With how things work in real life, it would probably end up being less like Adventure Time and more like The Last Man On Earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Man_on_Earth_(TV_series)
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>>88370971
It's almost like a show about childhood and growing up, has a main character who's grown up and changed from his childishness.

Finn had endless energy and optimism and hope in early seasons. Then, when he entered his early/mid teens, the world got more serious around him, and things fell apart for him in a major way.

He's forced to question his identity, find himself, an important part of growing up. He explores himself and the world around him in a new way, and is developing.

And in all fairness, he's not super angsty. He was briefly there for a while, and he's certainly a lot more low energy now, but that mostly manifests as being very chill and calm, and tries to let go of things that bother him.

>Dad is a total loser? Screw him, I've proven myself to be a good person, and I don't need his approval to know I'm a good person.
That is literally where that arc went, and what Finn decided

>Lost my arm? Don't care, at least now I get to replace it with something cool.
He tried replacing it with prosthetics, and he got grass arm pretty quick.

>Relationships aren't working out? Doesn't matter, because I'm still an important person in this world, and I still have people who love me.
This is true, he's reached a point where he's not dying not being in a relationship, and he's comfortable being single for now, but he still wants romance to be a part of his life and isn't going to just give up in that area because of one or two bad experiences. He's gonna keep trying.
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I don't remember much about the show but I do remember the instant, the 3 seconds that I realized it was all going to hell.

It's the one episode that opens with Finn crying over a picture and whining. I was like "fuck this better not be a recurring theme" but goddamn it, they couldn't stop themselves.
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>>88377884
aw fuck, I love nautical aesthetics.

I wanna live on a boat man.
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>>88380252
This, Puhoy is fucking incredible, and there has not been a better episode of any show to come out on cartoon network since.
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>>88382062
Season 5 has the most good episodes. Not necessarily the highest average quality per episode, but the most truly great stuff out of any season.
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It seems like such a missed opportunity that they got rid of Finn's fear of the ocean ages ago for no real reason and now he's actually going on an adventure across the seas. Would have been a very interesting dynamic, and they could have had Finn gradually be not afraid of it like halfway through the miniseries.
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The show's gotten experimental, which means sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Yeah there are some bad eggs, but we also have episodes like Puhoy, or Jake the Brick, which are much better than anything we before things got weird.
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Cartoon Network will recover as long as they're known as the network that puts out animation like it. They'll have their next Adventure Time, their next Edd, Edd n Eddy. These things just take time, and it'll be dark the next few years but it'll bounce back.
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>>88388259
This one?

I remember when this aired /co/ ate it up and accused anyone of hating it as butthurt Finn/PB shippers.
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>>88388710
I remember it being pretty even in terms of FP and PB fans. /co/ was still pretty into Fubblegum at that time, it hadn't been steadily pounded into dust over a period of several years yet.
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There are some problems with modern Adventure Time, really questionable decisions. These honestly don't get talked about on /co/ a lot.

There are matters of personal taste that have changed. The show's matured a lot, is much less wacky and silly, and tonally is very different. A lot of people on /co/ are salty about this.

A great many people on /co/ dislike it because they shipped Finn and Princess Bubblegum or even something like Finn and Marceline or Flame Princess, and now feel personally rejected and cucked on Finn's behalf, and can't help but self insert on the main character of the show and can't handle them not getting a girl.
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>>88388942
>There are some problems with modern Adventure Time,
>These honestly don't get talked about on /co/ a lot.
Been in AT threads for years and other than talking about episodes that just aired talking about what problems the show has is what is primarily done in these threads. The hell are you taking about?
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>>88387825
>>88387852
Getting mixed messages here... should I read Playing With Fire or no?
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>>88389051
It's a very good story, personally my favorite of all the graphic novels that have come out, but it may poison your opinion of Finn and Flame Princess considering what happened in canon. It's bad because PWF is so cute and nice and then Frost and Fire happened in the show and it was just hell.

That was years ago however and Finn and FP are on better terms, so go for it. I do think it will leave a bit of a sour taste in your mouth considering what happened though.
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I forgot about this scene.
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>>88370691
>>88370772
Incredibly late response but wasn't Zuke responsible for most of the ship teasing shit between two fan favorites (Lapis and Peridot)?

With her out of the way maybe the show can get back on track. She's a shitty storyboarder/writer and, by the looks of it, a shitty person.
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>>88389848
fuck i forgot all about PB's breast cancer arc
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Someone's got a hateboner for fubble I mean nobody brought it up seems like you're trying to bait
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>>88377996
>She only wrote a few episodes.
She pushed forward the Flame Princess, Simon Petrikov, and Susan Strong stuff.

>And Steven Universe hasn't handed that stuff very gracefully either.
I'd say its handled it much better than Adventure Time, which is weird because Adventure Time had better material to work with.
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>>88386077
I forgot she used to have very defined breast arch lines. Now it's more of a whole torso arch thing.
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>>88388259
Thankfully they climbed out of that hole. Bun Bun and Flute Spell show that.
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>Watching Preboot
>Tiffany flipping Finn
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>>88380825
So the translation would be: "The kid's a retard. But he puts my whims above personal safety. That's why he's a perfect lackey."
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>>88367106
Pretty much this
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>>88370971

I don't think he really cared about his dads approval or losing his arm, but otherwise this is pretty spot on.
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>>88366779
Im just happy there finally explaining shit, cant wait for islands and i hope we get a cure for simon and an explanation for jakes conception by the end of season 9 im so stoked to see what they do for the finale same with regular show.
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>>88395655
>same for regular show
God damn you all, I made a thread for it yesterday, the finale was last night, and NO ONE posted in the thread
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>tfw you're seemingly the only one who enjoys both the earlier seasons and the newer ones
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>>88399195
i do too
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>>88399195
>tfw enjoyed the earlier seasons of AT, thought it turned to shit, but learned from it's mistakes and got better
AT will be always be a curious beast, for better or worse
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those are legitimately her nipples
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>>88399195
>>88401645
Same. Adventure Time has always been such an easy watch for me that I never abandoned it even when I thought it got bad (way too into Finn's love life). But I'm glad I stuck around.
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>>88402315
Modified
Fist
Nipples
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>>88402315
I thought that they were the remnants of her tits on top of her now massive pecs
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>>88399195
>>88401645
>>88402334
My brethren!

For me classic Adventure Time is up there among my favorite pieces of animation and I live it to pieces, and while I don't enjoy modern AT as much it's still very good stuff usually. So it's like the show went from a 10/10 to like a 9.3 or something.

It really is crazy seeing all the positivity for the show on /co/ again. Ya just toss in an adventuring miniseries and slap a robot arm onto Finn and everyone starts liking it again. Pretty funny.
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>>88402483
Adventure Time threads right now are some of the best threads on /co/. They move at just the right speed, have virtually no shitposting and great discussion.
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>>88402483
Yeah it's funny. People really wanted that fucking robot arm.
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>>88402483
you forgot to list me too

i love the shit out of all seasons
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>>88402618
Sorry hoss.

>>88402607
Yeah man. I wonder how Breezy is gonna be viewed from the perspective of like the entire series now, maybe people will be nicer to it in hindsight or something. I always thought the songs were nice enough.
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>>88402660
>I always thought the songs were nice enough.
Tell me more of your horrible opinions. Did you also like the talk singing in the season finale? Or all of Marcy's songs?
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I think the worst times for AT is my memory where either the middle of the Finn sucks arc where he just kept digging himself in deeper and deeper no matter how everyone was begging him to stop, or the first half of season 6 right after Breezy. Not the best times man.

Season 7 has no real complaints from me though, overall real darn good.
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>>88402726
Marcy's song's are just alright.
So was the talk singing, it was awkward and weirdly paced but also sort of fun to listen to.

Breezy's songs weren't bad guy, least to me. Had some interesting lyrics from what I remember.
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>>88402532
>Popularity breeds contempt, cringe, and general vileness but it's word gets out farther and faster
>less popularity is generally more mellow and positive but gets drowned out to the point it might as well not even exist
What a vicious cycle this is.
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>>88402726
fuck off smug frog poster
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>>88402607
Robo arms are noice and the way they handled it seemed really scummy. This is a very positive change, but I certainly hope they aren't dumb enough to replace it a second time or all this goodwill will evaporate in an instant.
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>>88366779
SJWs claim another victim. Apparently shoehorning in an agenda is like ratings/sales Kryptonite
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>>88403837
Wasnt Bubbline was the only thing keeping it afloat after it fell off a cliff.
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>>88403983
Doesn't look like it...
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>>88372996
Its actually turned really good the last two seasons.
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>>88367126
>What's the appeal exactly
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>>88402483
good art.
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>>88402483
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>>88408353
god those sneakers
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>>88408482
The artist has a sneaker fetish.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKSSJGtr01w

>BMO calls in to adult swim's swap shop
This is the hard hitting stuff you've been looking for.
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I stopped watching around the time finns dad came back, was I well into the shows decline at that point?
I remember loving the /u/bait and fire princess but not much else.
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>>88408688
Sort of I guess? Though the show stayed at a pretty consistent level from then on out.

If you love the yuri you'll be quite pleased with season 7, if you loved Flame Princess you will be quite disappointed with the rest of the show.
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>>88408662
>not found
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>>88408758
Fixed it
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>>88367274
>complex and intelligent

Poor choice of words but I do think a lot of cartoons start out bland and uninteresting, but then start to come into their own later on.
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>>88366779
Adventure time fucked up once it decided to make the show about emo teenagers instead of adventures.
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>>88373723

AT certainly had the merchandising potential.

However when the show went from random adventures to full on deepstory mode, CN lost their meal ticket.
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>>88409425
>CN lost their meal ticket.
>Could've had such merch capabilities like Build-a-Jake
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>>88408353
what the fuck are those?
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>>88408353
>>88408482
>>88408563

Thanks guys, now I have a sneaker fetish too.
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>>88409958
those are instapump furies
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Found this on an article. Looks neat, guess they're doing packing and saying goodbyes throughout part 1. There's 8 parts by the way. It all ends Feb. 2nd, and 2 parts air each day to then.
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>>88366779
>implying we need another Spongebob..
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>>88402315
Anon, I don't want to have a boner anymore.
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>>88408753
Definitely see what you mean about season 7. It had some pretty cute parts honestly, hopefully they'll turn the gay up next season. Thanks anon.
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I wish they'd stop adding songs to story related episodes. It's all a matter of opinion, and you risk having the song be massively grating or retarded to people in an episode that, say, could be a turning point. Sometimes the song is the exposition that helps the story move along, but it's really retarded or poorly sung.

I don't hate all the songs, some are nice, but they really need to stop giving songs to characters just so they have a song in the episode.
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>>88379190
Very yes, I'm actually looking forward to this.
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>>88379318
Don't forget, the hand of Jake!Lich fell into every dimension in Crossover.
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>>88412064
Wait is that an alternate dimension there? Where's the naked lady painting? Did they remove it because censorship?
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>>88386625
In Reboot he asks Susan why she's kidnapping him, he'd probably go if she just asked.
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>>88366779
>catering to SJW
>WOW WHY MY CARTOON DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE

I kek every time.
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>>88399195
I love both new and old
I fucking hate BMO and graybles episodes though. Including tables.
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>>88412343
>I didn't read jackshit in the thread: the post

Every time.
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>>88373791
>no BoJack Horseman

>>88379494
>no The Nutshack

Did he do updated versions of them?
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>>88412417
I also hate the BMO and Graybles episodes but I actually thought Graybles 1000+ was pretty cool.
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>>88412417
What about Football?
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>>88366779
Dropped this show hard after the sun gave an existential speech to an elephant
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>>88402315
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>>88414239
What the hell is wrong with him? He's got the head mount like Gerald from Hey Arnold, and his baby chub is a little past what it should be, especially those legs. But I go back to the head mount.

Also I'm still pissed this pretty much answers his hat's origins. We knew it was from a bear but I thought it was from a real bear and it was like an adventurers mark, not a fucking teddy bear cut out.
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>>88381448
>>88382295
>>88381951
That was back from late last year but things aren't much better now (the weekend long marathon they aired right after thanksgiving).
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>>88386306
He sounds fine in Voltron
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Reposting in this thread while it's alive.
>>88390745
>>88390756
>>88390795
Also I'm pretty sure the line "...and only death for your people" is referring specifically to the rest of the humans.

All from the S6 premiere episodes.
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>>88414375
It's just a little weird baby, man.

Also Finn has replaced his hat before, at least three times now. Apparently he gets them by slaying "evil bears".
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>>88387668
Because this isn't your safespace.
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>>88414512
Ice Bear isn't that evil right?
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>>88414526
Maybe on a good day.
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>>88367126
try watching one of the first episodes, it was far better then
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>>88412417
Angel Face was one of the best episodes from season 7.
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>>88367126
There are two different appeals really.

The appeal of the early episodes is mostly just kind of fun somewhat psychedelic comedy with the occasional hint of lore.

The appeal of the later episodes is lots of existential angst and relationships (not necessarily romantic or sexual relationships).

Lots of people are divided on which they prefer.

If I had to sum it up in a different way I'd say it's kind of like FLCL if it went on for way too long with less satisfying resolutions. I still really like it even with all the downsides.
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>>88414470
What's weird is that the show is now going closer to the direction I thought it would after the season 5 finale. I thought the Citadel was going to be an advanced human civilization, and his dad would be the ruler or something. Now he's off to meet his mom on the island. It's almost like Season 6 was filler, but in a really meta way.
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>>88415736
*6 and 7
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>>88412417
Graybles 1000+ is without a doubt the best adventure episode of season 6 but otherwise I agree with you.
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