Can we have a /cozy/ Batman V Superman appreciation thread? Just

>>88279150
You are really a fucking shill arent you? Let this flick die.

>>88279150
sage

please let this meme die

both sides are absolutely insuffereable

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>>88279181
>If you don't like it, hey, that's okay, just go find another thread.

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>>88279150
I wish we could but some people don't know how to leave well enough alone.

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What's going on bros

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>>88279230
yep

i love the costumes in this movie. i think batman's BvS suit might be the best batsuit ever

>>88279150
Wayne heading head first into the fray at the beginning was awesome.

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>>88279230
Ignore them, it's funny watching them talk to themselves

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>>88279206
>movie starts with a funeral that destroys bruce's faith in humanity
>ends with a funeral that restores his faith in humanity

>caesar's wife wife tells clark that words won’t stop Batman, and that only a fist will.
>Bruce is halted from killing Superman by a single word.

>Lois ponders if Clark can be Superman and love her.
>Clark tells Lois he loves her before ceasing to be.

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>>88279319

>>88279150
Ok, lets be fair here.

As a FAN of the movies, what you didnt liked about them?

Be honest, it is pretty easy to point things that you dont like or mistakes on your favorite movies, and there is no problem at all with this.

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>>88279328
that's awesome, those last two had never occurred to me before

>>88279150
>can we please have a hugbox where everyone agrees
No.

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>>88279349
This is an appreciation thread

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>>88279349
would've preferred a more traditional lex

more than anything i wish snyder would just go out and fucking talk about this stuff, try to clear the air with the perception of MoS and BvS

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>>88279328
>>caesar's wife wife tells clark that words won’t stop Batman, and that only a fist will.
Well she wasn't his wife, but it's also notable that this is the reason Clark is quick to beat Batman down in their fight, which people never seem to get.

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another relevant Joseph Campbell quote

>Out of perfection nothing can be made.

regarding superman. as in, we can't have him start out as the perfect entity he is in most of the comics. he needs to get there. clark needs to go through a journey to become SupermanTM

>dude repeating motiffs lmao

>>88279150
Why you keep making daily threads for this shit?

>>88279500
>DUDE I'm simply too stupid LMAO

While I didn't really like the movie overall, it's hard to argue that it doesn't look great, which I think is partly because of Larry Fong's involvement as cinematographer (he did Watchmen as well). I also think the designers did a hell of a job with costumes and most of the sets, especially that armored batsuit.

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>>88279349
I could've done without Doomsday. I get that they had him for Death of Superman but I don't think he's necessary.
I wish Superman could have been given more lines. I appreciate what's being done, but I do like Superman to be open, and I hope he is allowed to be in the next movies.
The Jimmy thing was dumb.

I do love the movie though. Got it on blu-ray and everything.

>>88279487
Wasn't MoS supposed to be Clark's journey? Did that not count?

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Lois is the key
Her ring is nth met

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>>88279528
Enlighten me, Snyderfag.

>>88279528
This is why everybody hates you guys. Even Marvelfags arent so cancer.

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>>88279564
the way snyder and terrio have described it is his hero's journey spans from Man of Steel to Justice League. so each movie contains it's own arc for him, he ultimately can only come into his own with his death and resurrection.

>>88279588
Besides the last one, these all seem purely coincedental.

Yeah, because Superman never did any of these superheroic things outside of Peace on Earth, right?

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>>88279634

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I really hope Justice League doesn't abandon too much of what we love about BvS in pursuit of audience and critical satisfaction.

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>>88279617
I will never be as stupid as you.

>>88279696
Indeed, you're far more stupid than I am.

>>88279150
Things I liked

Batman suit
Warehouse scene
finally seeing Dc characters together
Batman beating Superman
Lex Luthor Speech at the party (showing his lack of self control)

Also, as I see people acusing Superheroes of being fascist (example: Alejandro Iñarritu), I understand the importance of bringing it to the stories.

Things I loved and hated at the same time
Lollypop scene

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>>88279658
Sure he has, but it doesn't mean they are coincidence. Even if they are, it's cool to draw comparisons.

I liked that pretty much every time Clark was on screen he was talking about doing the right thing and ideals and who matters. Felt very Superman to me.

>>88279718
>No you
>Being this retarded
Sad!

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More relevant Joseph Campbell:

>Dream is personalized myth, myth is depersonalized dream; both myth and dream are symbolic in the same general way of the dynamics of the psyche. But in the dream the forms are quirked by the peculiar troubles of the dreamer, whereas in myth the problem and solutions shown are directly valid for all mankind.

The film deals so overtly with myth and dreams, and we know Snyder is a fan of Joseph Campbell.

>>88279763
I know you are but what am I?

>>88279787
>deals so overtly with myth and dreams
It really doesn't. Merely having dreams and mythological elements in your movie isn't the same as addressing them.

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>>88279830
I literally meant that the film has a lot of dream sequences and people talk about mythology and in mythical terms. I wasn't making a point about the symbolism or allegory of the movie.

>>88279787
Snyder has dream sequences ALL THE TIME on his movies because he is a fan of "moments" and non linear stories, stop exagerating.

And it is extremelly hard and not indicated to rely so much on dream sequences on your movies. This is why stuff like Sucker Punch sucks.

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>>88279588
Do you have any more grids/images/infographics?

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>>88279911
Nigga post these at least 3 times a day on this board.

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From when Japan had an early screening

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>>88280004
I really hope we get Tim Drake in the Batman solo movie

>>88279953
I wish that Japan had liked those films more, there are a fuck ton of Nip Avengers art, but barely any DCEU.

>>88279929
>1108
Oh I really like this little tidbit. Clearly someone gave a shit and I feel that needs to be appreciated.

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https://vimeo.com/189876347

lex is a horseman of apokolips
He work's for darkseid


Horse motifs are used a lot in bvs

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>>88280059
maybe it's the mozart but this video always gets me a little emotional

>>88279658
One of the earliest reports about the movie is that it was going to be partly based on Peace on Earth. I don't think these are coincidental.

While I certainly think BvS has a lot of flaws and stuff, I have to give it props for at least trying. Its so clear that people involved gave a shit about this story (except for maybe the higher up WB execs).

It had some interesting themes, ideas and portrayals, which I would strongly argue weren't executed well enough. Nevertheless, there must be some appreciation for a meaningful attempt.

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Thanks OP.
Favorite DCEU scenes so far...

>> "Krypton had it's chance"
Tragic powerful moment, shot of the scout ship banking downwards was really well done CGI wise really gave you the impression Lois was genuinely soaring above the city.
Music for that moment is phenomenal and thankfully I finally found it online...
0:57 to 1:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5lk_PYF0jA

>> Lois & Clark saying goodbye to each other before Faora arrives.

>> Clark taking Doomsday into space & holding on to Doomsday even after he sees the nuke coming.

>> "I love you, this is my world, you are my world"

>> Batman rescuing Martha.

Notice how 4/5ths of them are Superman moments? Anyone who says Snyder hates Superman can go to hell.

>>88280059
Is this worth watching? Fans trying to be intellectual always makes me cringe.

>>88280207
it's 4 minutes dude, just watch it.

Remember the plotline dedicated entirely to transparently marketing four other movies directly to your stupid face?

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Jesus Amy is fucking sexy!

>>88280207
It's like 5 minutes man. Just watch it and decide for yourself.

then come back here and discuss it because i'm eager for interesting thoughts

>>88280228
everyone acknowledges that was a mistake

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>>88280279
No they don't, they don't even talk about it.

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>>88280230
Second best dc girl

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>>88280228
Ssssshhhhhh


This is a "safespace" thread.

>>88280038
If we get Carrie I'm gonna strangle someone

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>>88280333
Thats every DCEU thread anon

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>>88280317
Who is that?
And Traue is #1

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Ok, I watched it. I think a few of them are a stretch, but considering Snyder is super religious and majored in art history I think most of it is intentional. I really do think this movie is totally misunderstood by normal people and critics because they went in wanting/expecting to see a standard superhero movie and didn't get one.

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Not BvS, but I noticed this a long time ago.

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>>88280349

>>88280349
>That Ultra Comics In The Bottom Right

>>88280306
What is there to talk about? It's stupid and never should have been in the movie. If WB didn't force Snyder to inject a bunch of JL lead up and let him focus on the conflict between Batman and Superman the movie would have been amazing. I still like it though.

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I just wanna say I think the blue lightning is kinda cool. People keep saying it clashes with the red suit but I don't agree. Blue and red always work well together, and it makes it more vibrant this way. Yellow lightning is great too, but I'm liking DCEU Flash.

And he's still super fucking red even in a darkly lit room so that's nice.

>>88280366
I'm down for Armie Hammer as Hal, but he'd be better as Captain Marvel.

>>88280389

Actually every DCEU thread is a shitstorm.

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>>88279298
For Superman's suit.
Use...
>> The BVS blue
>> The BVS texture
>> The MOS buckle, the black waist & wrist bands to contrast from the blue instead of blending with it like it did in BVS.
>> Tone down the groin lines to non existence like they where in MOS.

>>88280487
I hate the dulled yellow and white

>>88280453
He had the choice of making it on post credits, but didn't wanted to be compared to Marvel.

Still, a bunch of Snyderfags here defend the "major significance" of the scene.

>>88280487

His lighting was red/yellow in BvS, so maybe it's color depends on how powerful he is at that point. He's still a novice in JL, but in BvS he was time traveling from the future.

>>88280526
>He had the choice of making it on post credits, but didn't wanted to be compared to Marvel.
Source? Nolan was the one who said no credits scenes, Snyder wanted one in BvS but he put the kaibosh on it. The JL shit was clearly mandated by WB, Snyder doesn't have that much pull.

>>88279349
Superman absolutely needed more happy scenes in BVS prior to the senate bombing, him, Lois & Martha eating dinner would have been nice and added to the ladies interaction at the end.

>>88280513
Seems appropriate, the DCEU is a shitstorm.

>>88279150
Who else DC Cinematic reddit here?

Thanks guys for linking the thread, enjoying it so far.

>>88280596
Go away, that place is pathetic.

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>>88280576
>Lois & Martha eating dinner would have been nice and added to the ladies interaction at the end.

yeah that's a cool idea, problem is the movie is so fucking long as it is. aside from the JL cameos i don't know what could be cut to make room for some of the character moments like that we would've liked to see.

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>mfw
>BvS safespace thread
>100 replies
>only 18 IPs
>half of them are mocking the thread and the movie

You can't make this shit up.

So can somebody please explain to me why people get so butthurt and go "NOT MUH" and "MARVEL SHILL" and "TO KINO FOR YOU" when someone expresses the opinion that BVS is a dull pretentious clusterfuck of a film and that Zack Snyder should go back to make films like Dawn of the Dead instead?

>>88280636
>Zack Snyder and some unrelated books

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>>88280761
Can somebody please explain to me why people get so butthurt and go "DULL PRETENTIOUS CLUSTERFUCK" when some guys just wanna have a thread to talk about a movie they like?

>>88280761
I really think most of the people saying that "Kino" stuff are shitposting and don't actually like the movie. /tv/ posters. I love the movie to death but I'm not pretending like it's overly intellectual or anything, and I don't think most fans do either.

Can you explain to me why people feel like they need to always talk about how shitty and pretentious they think the movie is when we've had these conversations a thousand times?

>>88280825
They want a hugbox, not a discussion. That's why.

>>88280825
Because it doesn't change the fact that it is.

>>88280851
i've spent hours arguing with people about BvS and MoS on /co/ alone, i think we're allowed to have one thread where we can just enjoy the movie

evidently not i suppose

>>88280857
okay then go back to your spiderman trailer hype thread and leave us to our delusions

Do you guys recognize the weird push both MoS and BvS do for the traditional family model?

In Mos the man x woman/dad x mom stuff is pushed so hard that the implicit message of the movie is that society can't survive without this family model. Be it in the way Jor & Lara and Johnathan & Martha inform Superman's morals or in the way Superman and Lois desire to be with each other push the narrative forward.

Then in BvS you've this thing where we take a look on Superman, Batman and Lex Luthor and the way they've been raised and how their treat women pretty much inform the audience how these characters are mentally.
Superman take his strength from his parents, that took their strength from each other and thus Superman take his strength from Lois mirroring his parents life and love.
Batman tries to live up to his father image, who died trying to protect his mother and family, and his biggest guilt is about not being able to protect his parents legacy and family and also in the movie he's constantly shown trying to help female figures. Then later he sees in Superman his father's image and then there's Wonder Woman who kinda serves to complete him by the end. It's kinda like Superman and Wonder Woman became his new dad and mom, with Wonder Woman doubling as a kinda of potential mate.
Then there's Lex, who took his father's company and made his own and also bigger and better. He kinda models himself on his father, but in a predatorial way, kinda killing and devouring his father, taking what was his to himself, which is something he tries to do with Superman. Taking his people's tech and trying to discrete and kill Superman to prove himself superior. Then there's also Lex treats the women in his life. Using and discarding them with total disregard.

I don't know, just something i thought. How the whole father x mother dynamic influences a lot the characters behaviors and how they mimic the same family unit and influences.

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Casting ideas for future films?

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>>88280925

>>88280892
I just want good DC films. Call me when the Batfleck trailer comes.

>>88280918
I think that's all accurate, but I don't know if it means that both of the films "push" traditional family models. I think the films are psychological and mythological, and that necessitates generally a focus on parents.

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I feel Ingrid Bolso Berdal (armistice on westworld) would make for a good Cheetah.

>DC safe space thread

I kind of feel bad. You're like the battered housewife of comic book movie fans.

>>88281043
We are battered by haters, we love the films, now fuck off.

>>88281002

MoS certainly push for the traditional family unit. Krypton was literally and metaphorically barren. The traditional family unit didn't exist, sex was forbidden by law ad religion, people were born due to clone bullshit. It was sterile culture and the planet reflected as such in its landscape. Jor and Lara were pretty much the last traditional family unit on Krypton.

Then you've this whole thing where John and Martha are big influences on Superman and Superman and Lois desire to be with one another and protect one another serves to always save them from the problems. Their desire to stick together is what saves them and the Earth by extension. Meanwhile the sexless kryptonians all fucking die.

Not the mention all the emphasis place on Superman's blood.

>>88279262
>Three costumed suspects were arrested last night for the murder of an infant, as well as millions of dollars in property damage

Superman 4 The Quest For Peace is a much more entertaining film.

>>88281103

Superman and Lois desire to bone one another is what saves the day. Sex is what saves the day.
The sexless kryptonians all die and Krypton's sterile culture had to die and never come back.

That's the message of the movie. Get a clue, find a wife and go make some babies. Society needs you to do this. Do you want to doom the planet?

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>Things that you didn't realise watching the film, but you enjoyed learning about from a random poster online
The grenades Batman used in the BvS fight are made from lead.

>>88281190
>Superman IV: Has Jon Cryer
>BvS: No Jon Cryer

I think this goes without saying.

>>88281240
What are you talking about Jesse Eisenberg played a great Lenny Luthor.

>>88280499

no, channing tatum would be PERFECT as captain marvel.

honestly i always kinda wanted armie hammer to play batman, especially after reading earth one and snyder's batman run.

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>>88280925

holy shit, i totally fuck with wesley as hal, tahts a good casting choice.

pic related for maxwell lord

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>24 posters

Flash was hideous.

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Time to post true Capekino

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>>88279150
New stuff coming through. I wonder what this could mean.
Jor-El
Lois
Clark
Bruce

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>>88281824
They will stumble
They will fall
But in time, they will join you in the sun.

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I'll be nice to you guys for once. Here enjoy.

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>>88281862
Looks like Bruce is seeing it from Chill's perspective.

>>88282175
>Bruce is seeing it from Chill's perspective
o shit

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Hopes for MOS2...
>> Some kinda Mystery Clark & Lois can both investigate as reporters, maybe Perry with them.
>> Clark is open and friendly with people he saves.
>> Clark is lighter and notably more hopeful has a good amount of scenes being happy and content.
>> Parasite if used (Id prefer not) is more like the thin creepy tas/Alex Ross version and not the growing blob he has been in recent years.

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Hopes for Aquaman...
>> Manta is played by Elba, Jai White or K Williams.
>> Manta is not a Atlantian villain as has been rumored.
>> Mera is never a bitch or unlikable.
>> Once her and Arthur are together they are fiercely loving and loyal.
>> Heard is sexualized a good amount.
>> Undersea horror vibes.

>>88279533
>which I think is partly because of Larry Fong's involvement as cinematographer (he did Watchmen as well).
Larry Fong is a long time friend of Snyder that he's known since film school. He says that Fong is the only one he trusts to get his vision down right.

>>88279588
This is cool. Ross's Superman is allowed to speak in front of Congress, which is what he wants, but Snyder's isn't. On the other hand, Ross's doesn't allow the people to touch him while Snyder's does. The reversals are interesting.

>>88279230

>Make three near-perfect costumes
>Fuck it up by making 90's Aquaman

Flash doesn't look too bad I guess but I hope his second suit isn't too armored

If Clark and Bruce had more dialogue, had been been misled to fight eachother a little better and Lex was more traditional, this would've been a perfect movie. It's the little things that fuck it up in the long run.

>>88283491
>>Fuck it up by making 90's Aquaman
Fuck Off.

>>88279541

Should've saved the death untile Man of Steel 2.

>>88283553

90's Arthur isn't bad but it's nowhere near as perfect as the classic outfit.

>>88280636
>i don't know what could be cut to make room for some of the character moments like that we would've liked to see.
Easy, cut out WW and Doomsday.

>>88283610
I wished for this too, but Dc REALLY wanted to push for their expanded universe and snyder is trying to keep away from the post credits scene.
Which is funny when suicide squad pretty much did it later on anyways

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>>88280918
>Do you guys recognize the weird push both MoS and BvS do for the traditional family model?
Yeah, it's one of the main reasons liberals hated the films.

Too masculine, traditional, and conservative. The values are too good and clash with the agenda. It might actually inspire people to be better, and that scares the guys on top. Virtue isn't profitable.

>>88283987
Martha and anunt may as hot milfs, truly the golden age comic book films