TRANSFORMERS with the new movie coming out, why don't

>>88211318
>why don't we talk about Transformers?
Because every Transformers "discussion" immediately devolves into tribal elitism. Apparently, you're only allowed to like ONE TF series ever, and no matter which one it is, a bunch of angry nerds will jump you with very loud declarations of TRUKK NOT MUNKEY.

So no, let's not talk about Transformers. Go jump off a cliff.

>>88211478
Well, what's your favorite series anon?

>>88211478
I don't think there is anybody here who doesn't like Beast Wars other than the retarded Beast Machines guy

That being said, you're a piece of shit if you like Beast Machines or any of the animes

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>>88211318
Cybertron. Might just be nostalgia, but I love the fuck out of that series. Either Prime or Animated are second, kind of tied between them. I don't really have a favorite character, but if I had to choose, it'd either be the Cybertron Defense Team or IDW Arcee.

I'm not sure if I want to get hyped for the new movie, but the four we've gotten so far have entertained me, so I'll probably enjoy it.

>>88211595
Eat shit. Beast Machines was more solidly planned and had a better plot structure than Beast Wars did. It was a great series, just a shit sequel.

Also, Cybertron and RID 2001 are hilarious.

>>88211318
Speaking of, here's the trailer
https://youtu.be/v-4rYf0x-F4

>>88211609
Beast Machines was shit

>transformers without guns
>transformers who dont look like transformers
>transformers who don't transform in the traditional way, but morph by spirit magic

It fucking stinks

>>88211684
>transformers without guns
And yet you don't have a problem with Animated? :^)

>>88211694
Because Animated didn't have a slew of other problems along with it that made it seem anti-transformers like

>>88211318
>What's your favorite character and series?
Posting favourites from each because I can.
G1 Sunbow: Soundwave, Grimlock, Wheeljack, Hot Rod, Kup, Omega Supreme
Headmasters: Chromedome, Fortress Maximus
Masterforce: Ginrai
Victory: Star Saber, LeoZack
Beast Wars: Optimus Primal, Megatron, Dinobot, Blackarachnia
CarRobots: Fire Convoy
Armada: Starscream
Super Link: Grand Convoy
Galaxy Force: Nitro Convoy, Flame Convoy
Animated: Optimus, Megatron, Ratchet, Sari, Sentinel
Prime: Ratchet, Smokescreen, Megatron, Soundwave
Rescue Bots: Heatwave, Thaddeus Morocco
Robots in Disguise: Steeljaw, Grimlock

G1 Marvel: Grimlock, Nightbeat, Soundwave, Rodimus Prime, Death's Head
IDW: Prowl, Soundwave, Megatron, Drift, Rodimus, Ratchet, Arcee, Nautica, Wheeljack

I maybe forgot some characters that deserve to be in there somewhere.

Also Beast Wars and IDW are the overall favourites.

>>88211318
>What's your favorite character and series?

Got way too many favorites, though most are due to design and not personality. And favorite series is G1, of course.

New IDW issues when? Love the storytimes you guys do.

>>88211595
Beast Machines was a great story with terrible characters.

>>88213337
Is Till all are One a good jumping on point? I'm interested in getting started on the comics, I've got a bit more than casual knowledge of the franchise

>>88211318

Autobots inferior Soundwave superior.

>>88211684
>transformers who dont look like transformers

Found the "genius" who decided to invent emperortacos to explain why guys like Shockwave and Whirl had monoeyes.

>>88213522

I'd say either start with the actual reading order list on /co/, or start with All Hail Megatron, if only because it was the launching point for a lot of stuff, and it's the whole reason humanity fucking hates 'bots.

>>88213622

Not that guy, but given that Whirl and Shockwave are G1 Transformers, how could they not "look" like Transformers?

I can get Beast Wars/Machines stuff not looking like it because it's a different aesthetic entirely, that was the first big departure from the classic looks, but those two were around since the ground floor.

A better example would be Bayformers. That shit looks nothing like any other iteration of TF's. Even BW/BM still had fairly in-line-with-everything-else 'bot modes, though BW less so.

>>88211654
Finally Optimus kills Bumblebee

>>88213842
>kills Bumblebee

Motherfucker theres a Bumblebee movie coming up. He ain't dead. That whole shot is literally pointless drama.

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>>88213713
Beast Wars resembled Transformers, but with an organic Guyver esque makeover...but Transformers nonetheless
Bayformers looks like Transformers as regurgitated by Hollywood with an emphasis on the "alien tech" aspect of it all
Beast Machines looks like....I don't even fucking know, but certainly not Transformers, just strange mutant animals

>>88213713
Didn't you hear? Whirl and Shockwave had regular normal humanoid faces and hands, but Ebil Gubmint gave took muh hands and face and now they don't look like transformers.

>>88214506
Huh. Soundwave's concept art name was Breakdown for DOTM? What was his placeholder name during ROTF development?

Will the empurata autist ever go away?

>>88215766
Who?

Favorite Bot: Wheeljack
Favorite Con: Bludgeon

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>>88213885
What if... Fumblebee kills Optimus

>>88214988

IDW continuity isn't other continuities.

Though IDW is basically "G1 Modern".

>>88213622
>>88214988
Oh look its the faggot from the /toy/ and /co/ tfgs who's still assmad someone did something different in ONE continuity and he cant control his autism sperging over it.

>>88211478
IDW Transformers or nothing.

>>88211595
Beast Machines had potential, admittedly.

The problem is that they botched it all to hell and back in its execution.

>>88216850
Nothing is much better.

>>88215581
The reason is because they didn't want people to recognize who he was, that he wasn't just a satellite in orbit breathing heavily at everyone.

But people figured out her car was a Decepticon anyway.

Speaking of the movie, how likely is it that Unicron is controlling Optimus Prime's body?

I really hope Prime becomes an unwilling antagonist throughout this trilogy.

>>88219898
Considering his eyes turning purple someone obviously is.

>>88219898
I hope it's like the 1986 movie, where Unicron controlled Galvatron. Only with Optimus being the one controlled, I feel it adds more value to the story. Like Bumblebee having to make the choice on whether to kill him or not.

>>88220204
I cannot imagine it is like that. Typically you cannot torture Optimus with pain to make him do your bidding, right?

>>88220239
Yeah, but I more so meant the concept of the big bad controlling an integral character. Although Optimus being tortured into doing this against his will is also an appealing idea.

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So Rodimus entered his blue period after learning what Bay did to his pretty face? And also made him French?

>>88222033
Galvarod? Rodclonus? Scrodge and his Huntsman the Screeps?

>>88222033

So has anyone said why Hotrod is rocking a Decepticon-ish color scheme all of a sudden?

>>88225576
Japan did a slew of purple Ridimus repaints.

Hasbro is now just embracing it

>>88225576
Rodimus is just fucking sick and tired of Megatron being the real captain. I mean he almost had the status quo returned but NOOOO, fucking time travel brought Megatron's husbando from the past and suddenly he's cool again.

Well TWO can play at this game! If Megatron is going to be the heroic leader of the Lost Light then Rodimus will be...fuck, wait...maybe...well the Decepticons are kind of disbanded more or less...Oh, right! He'll be the new Tarn!

>>88225814
Tarn Rod!
Three fusion pipes on each arm!
Suck it, Glitch! Suck it so hard!

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SKYWARP JOOOOOOOOOOOE!

How'd he lose his teleporting?

>>88225894

Maybe the fix for his condition involved somehow cutting off his special snowflake power.

Maybe he burned himself out somehow being stuck in the half-phased state and it needs time to recouperate.

Maybe it's just so GI Joe doesn't have a warping giant robot, and instead just has a giant robot.

>>88225894
That feels like cheating, honestly.

As for teleportation I imagine he lost it due to whatever was done to resolidify him.

>>88225894
I like how the cockpit seems reasonably enough sized for a human pilot but the rest of him is way out of proportion.

Not anything new, of course, just saying.

>>88226137

Mass shifting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rAv5zgtsmM

The trailer's song is kind of creepy.

>>88222033
>Rodimus and Star Saber are Decepticons
>Cyclonus and Megatron are Autobots
>Optimus and Soundwave are buttbuddies

What even is IDW

>>88227245
The Not!Shattered-Glass Universe

>>88226998
It's really ominous

>>88227394
Shattered Expectations Universe!

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>>88227694

>>88226998
>>88227511
Not if you listen to the original version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPXWt2ESxVY

>>88228077
10/10 would cruise with

>>88228077
What the fuck! That's not Linkin Park! That's not Linkin Park at all!

Is it?

>>88229097
It's not.

>>88229510
Pretty sure that was a joke, though I do enjoy how the trailer more or less made it sound like they did a cover version.

Michael Bay knows the sound he likes, dammit.

>>88229578
>Michael Bay knows the sound he likes, dammit.

Can he even hear anything? I thought he was permanently deafend from whackin' it to explosions all day.

>>88229606
He's adapted! You know, the rich man way by having dolphin "ears" surgically implanted so he can hear via explosions.

>>88211318
I want to say I liked G1, but looking back, it's so littered with inconsistencies that I can't help but balk. So...

1. Beast Wars
2. Transformers Prime

Pretty much it for me. I didn't enjoy Transformers Victory and the Minicons in the early '00s.

Favorite Transformers:

1. Grimlock
2. Dinobot
3. Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime
4. Optimus Prime
5. Megatron

>>88226998
>Optimus Primes does drugs
>ALL the drugs
>kills Bumblebee

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>>88229967

I still think one of the coolest parts of Transformers Prime is that Earth is literally built on their Satan.

>>88229728
>I didn't enjoy Transformers Victory
N-not even Hellbat?

>>88211318
Series
>Transformers prime
>Car robots for latin dub it was hilarious
>Transformers armada
>Rescue bots

As for favorite transformers

Ultra Magnus and Megatron have been my favorites in all continuities

>IDW and Prime Optimus Prime
>G1 and Prime Shockwave
>IDW Wheeljack
>G1 and G1 Soundwave
>Robots in disguice Bumblebee and Grimlock

>>88211318
I've always wanted to get into the comics for Transformers. Where should I start IDW?

>>88231443
Start from the Greeks

Grimlock and IDW

>>88231443

Someone will probably post the reccomended reading list, since the start of the IDW-verse is pretty fucking random. And to top it off, some of it gets retcon'd by All Hail Megatron, yet both AHM and some of the retcon'd stuff are referenced here or there.

>>88211318
G1

Grimlock (comics and original tech spec)

>>88231530
It's not that it gets retconned so much as editorial intended them to be a single continuity and McCarthy didn't pay too much attention to whatever the hell Furman had done before him and editorial didn't bother to fix shit.

So it contradicts Furman's stuff a bunch but AHM also references and is a sequel to a bunch of Furman stuff at the same time. Sunstreakers entire story and motivation in AHM hinges on the Furman stuff that came before.

TL;DR nothing was ever retconned in IDW, just writers wrote their shit without caring what others had done before them and editorial weren't doing their jobs for the first few years.

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>>88232075
>and editorial weren't doing their jobs for the first few years.

Not doing their jobs now either if the MTME season finale was any indication.

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>>88232075
Well for years you had Andy Schmidt - a jerkass who thinks continuity is stupid - as editor, who released "Continuum" as a subtle way to tell readers which continuity he thought was worth keeping and what was worth ignoring/fudging. To this day I'm pissed that we never had any Machination follow up.

And then we had to get Costa as a writer, who on top of claiming that Transformers were too hard to make relatable [s]while simultaneously writing human characters who were even less relatable or likable[/s] relegated the only interesting part of his 3 year run to the Ironhide mini.

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>>88213885
>Next movie
>Bumblebee voiced by Jerry
>Hangs out with his police buddy "Barry".

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>>88214506
I still like the Nizzi designs very much.

It's just a shame that the Cons will alwyas be monstrous in their faces.

Any spoilers from the MTMTE Revolution comic out yet?

How's the MTMTE Revolution issue?

>>88211478
>jump off a cliff.

I see what you did there.

>>88213337
>New IDW issues when?
Next week.

>>88233307

Roberts and Roche shitting on all the non-TF franchises in Revolution and the idea of a shared universe in general

Just a big vast journey up their own asses

>>88211684

It's amazing and ironic that we, as a fandom, hate change so much.

FTR I did not care for Beast Machines either.

>>88215766
>>88216567

Speaking as an autistic Transformers fan who thinks IDW is the best goddamn thing that ever happened to the franchise I have to say I am not angry with you, but I am disappointed.

>>88219898

Unicron = Creator-controlled Cybertron eating other planets to restore itself?

>>88220239

>TFW Optimus getting more and more messed up psychologically as the movies progressed was actually a long game

>>88225894

>Personally kill four million non-combatant humans
>Attempt to kill your closest friend because he protected humans
>"Hey, big guy, want to join this man's army?"
>"Sure, where do I sign up?"

>>88233325
Money saved. Thanks, IDW.

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>>88233371
Only if you can transform into a plane.

>>88228077

So it's basically a "I have no strings on me" kind of deal.

>>88233341
Well IDW was the best young-adult thing we have. All the cartoons are still made using plots with the children demographic in mind.

Of course it can't be perfect forever.

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>>88233371
I just really like murdermus Prime as a development. I know alot of OP fans detest it but they have four generations/versions worth of honest, decent Optimi. Just let us have this psycho soldier that isn't purple.

>>88233402

I honestly prefer the "kid" stuff

Roberts has devolved into "I'm writing clever just like Dr. Who!" bullshit

>>88233435
That's just one of the bad sides of comics. Eventually the free reign can get...political.

Still, I can still stand the comics enough. It just ain't gonna be consistently good like Rescue Bots

Optimus literally did nothing wrong in the movies
The psycho murderer is a meme

>>88233416

Why do you like it so much, though? To me, it is a terrible notion - Optimus being the one guy who just doesn't become corrupt. He's not human. He's not even a normal Transformer. He's above certain things - that's what being a true Prime is all about. Even in the movieverse, the original Primes sacrificed their lives to protect innocents.

Then again, the best villains are the guys who were supposed to have been heroes. IDW's Megatron falls into that category.

>>88233475
I think that Optimus being uncertain of what to do and increasingly morally murky works in IDW, because it's portrayed as a Bad Thing.
Bay's Optimus isn't like that. He's a violent, warlike face-taker because Bay thinks that's "more badass".

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>>88233475
It's basically a mix of Bay's corrupted ideas that giant robot soldiers should be viking berserkers compared to humans. Taking into account that if that's how the movieverse Cybertronians are in their culture, then the idea
of the battle-tired monstrous slayer amuses me. He is a Prime, but in a world where even the Prime he knew would slay the many to appease the few, the title has lost its meaning, as did his arm and faith in humanity.

I'm not taking into account the other generations of Primes as they're their own thing. Basically an inconsistent grimdark version of Transformers, only with Optimus Prime being the only character to have character development. For what it's worth, I'm not as optimistic for the other bots to be part of the movieverse as plot related development, but I'm excited for Optimus Prime alone.

and Barricade because I'm a minorcharacter fag like that.

>>88233452

I don't care about the political stuff, or the LGBT stuff in MTMTE. What I hate is the whole fucking "Look at this clever twist I pulled off!" He's so fucking obsessed with pulling off a big fucking trick on the audience or so-called high literary concepts (A fucking machine that induces morality and makes Deathsaurus leave? We get it, this is a fucking fictional story.)

I mean shit. The Scavengers' ship is fucking called "The Weak Anthropic Principap." Those assholes. A bunch of idiots led by a guy who can't stop shooting his friends named themselves after a philosophical consideration. Yes Roberts, we realize you paid attention in college.

Add in the fact he has no sense of pacing, that every arc adds up to a big wet fart, everyone increasingly starting to talk EXACTLY THE SAME with quips and funny meta commentary the longer shit goes on, and him not being as socially aware as he likes to think he is, what used to be so fresh in MTMTE is now fucking aggravating.

I love shit like Chromedome and Rewind! But then he gets away with the Bury Your Gays shit and "fixes" it with a backup boyfriend? I'm queer as fuck myself and I found that plot twist insulting more than anything.

>>88233538
Was there ever an excuse to why Roberts did what he did? All I remember was that he did it because it had poetry/irony??

>>88233558

He did it because he wanted to pull sci fi doppelganger bullshit. The guy is influenced a lot by "high concept" (read: stuff like Dr. Who which likes to trick you into thinking it's smart when it's just nonsense). Either that or he killed Rewind and realized the longer he stayed dead he was gonna lose his bread and butter eventually and undid it.

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>>88233601
I'm still pissed about this page.

It's so beautiful and meaningful, then 1 issue later BAM, it's all alright in one page.

No, make that PANEL.

I felt a bit more for Transformers Redemption and that had pretty meh art.

>>88233533

How much of it is on Bay and how much is on Kruger?

The new movie has a new set of writers... that has to count for something.

>>88233686

I felt pretty cheated, too. I wonder if anyone said "No, you can't kill him off. Next issue, he's alive. Got that?".

>>88233538
>backup boyfriend

Boyfriend backup, in this case.

Meanwhile, here I am wondering whether they do it, and if so, how?

>>88233686

That's another thing about the "not as socially conscious as he likes to think he is" part

The Cyclonus/Tailgate thing is fucking creepy. The first few instances of them knowing each other is Cykes beating and verbally abusing him. This is never adequately dealt with.

And Roberts still plays fast and loose with whether we're supposed to treat Tailgate like a child. Roberts says that TG is a full adult but the holo matter avatar based on his inner personality traits is a fucking baby. Tailgate is treated with kid gloves by the other characters, the thing with Getaway is framed like him being sweet talked by a fucking sexual predator (calling him "youthful" terms like Scout, getting uncomfortably close, taking him on "dates"). And then there's Tailgate being written like the kid-oriented "wish fulfillment" character with a sick hover board and somehow getting SUPER POWERS.

He can pretend that Tailgate "isn't a kid" and he and Cyclonus aren't fucking creepy as shit but he's definitely having his cake and eating it too here

>>88233771

How they do what? Have sex? Who gives a fuck. Read a fanfic.

But if I were in Rewind I'd be creeped out by the idea of snuggling up to a fucking clone of my dead boyfriend. Who Rewind watched DIE I might add. He should have looked around and seen ghosts in the eyes of everyone around him; they're his friends but they're also not.

But that storyline is allowed to end with him slotting back into the crew like nothing fucking happened.

>>88233771
>The new movie has a new set of writers... that has to count for something.

If you really think that after almost 10 fucking years of these things, you deserve every shade of disappointment that comes your way.

>>88233812
Kreuger did 2-4, mind you.

>>88233796

Everybody on board is a clone by that definition. Up to the moment the Lost Light quantum-jumped, they were the same being. I don't remember: were Rewind and Chromedome already an item before they boarded?

I mean, they're both war survivors. They all are. They have proven to be able to handle extreme stresses.

>>88233849

They've been a couple for years.

And yes, they are all clones! From Rewind's perspective. He should have a problem with that, or at least need to get used to it, or SOMETHING. But no all we get is momentary confusion about their circumstances and it's off to the next storyarc.

>>88233292
MP3 the GI Joe is Crankcase's date.
That's not a spoiler or a leak, it's just obvious from the preview.

>>88233686
Really, if they'd at least had it actually feel like there were some repercussions, and had it uncertain whether Cyclonus would survive...
(And also left out the shit-tier villain in Sunder and Tailgate getting superpowers, which proved absolutely meaningless in the long run.)

>>88233929

God Sunder was the worst fucking character they ever made for these things

Why couldn't they have used an existing TF character, also? If he wanted a fucking serial killer robot he could have used BW Rampage.

>>88233944
I wouldn't want Rampage to be wasted on that.
Also I want him to be with Transmutate in IDW.

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>>88233773
It's not that deep.

>>88233812

Kruger is gone. But you are right. I kept falling for it before. This time, I am waiting for Rotten Tomatoes.

>>88227245
>Thundercracker is also an Autobot
>Starscream rules Cybertron
>Skywarp joined G.I. Joe

It's crazy it's what it is.

>>88233974

>Friend
>...Good
>Friend
>Darrk...
>I
>am
>hurt.

Feels.

>>88233325
Quarantine Roberts back to his little corner in the universe plz.

>>88234032

Ramjet and Thrust are dead, but Dirge survived for a change.

>>88234018
Don't we all?

Either way DOTM had 30% and I still enjoyed it more than ASM2.

So now I'm banking on it getting 30-50% before I get a ticket.

Is MTMTE revolution going to be storytimed in this thread or its own?

>Transformers More Than Meets the Eye Revolution (2016) (Digital) (Revolutianon)
http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/p5rThAUx/file.html
https://mega.nz/#!79QhWBpa!6dijwQ6WBZOpt4Ve3oYgkuf-R2VwlqiTY_VtJXKFeJQ

>>88234612
Goddamn it. JUST after I buy the damn thing to storytime it myself.
I hope you're happy.

>>88234632
Patience is a virtue, my friend.

>>88234632
Well at least you supported the book.

Has any one uploaded the last volumes of MTMTE and exRID?

>Tfw lost complete track of IDW transformers ever since the whole Revolution thing with the shared universe and G I Joe and whatnot whatever it's called I don't know
I really really don't care about the shared universe
I just want to read a comic about alien robots from Cybertron

>>88235292
Everything other than today's comics should be in the MEGA.
https://mega.nz/#F!Ax4nUCCT!_5vN--HYA1R6ahJUNcx-wQ

>>88211318
>Favorite character
G1 Optimus Prime

>Favorite series
Beast Wars

>>88233472
He literally let a major portion of the human population get slaughtered specifically to prove a point to some grumpy politicians. Then somehow everyone still gushes about him being noble.

Bay Prime is almost a parody of himself.

>>88235710
He was respecting the human right to self determination, they wanted them out so they complied.

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>>88235491
Thank you, dude. I honestly appreciate it, but I'm looking for the volumes. I usually read the comics as they come but delete them shortly after, I prefer to only keep volumes in my external.

Actually, why aren't there any volumes in the mega? Unless they're somewhere in there and I'm too stupid. New readers seem less overwhelmed when it's 10 volumes instead of almost 60 single issues.

Trigger warning

A semi-decent issue though, sometimes, sorta.

MP3 was fun, his backstory had me rooting for him as a true Joe, and the art for Thunderwing was pretty rad. Although the "a very special episode of" business and taking the piss out of the crossover was a bit typical/lackluster, there were some genuinely heartwarming moments like with Misfire and Grimlock

Should I buy a hard copy of this issue though? The alt cover with Misfire and Grimlock looks pretty nice for display

>>88236140
There's just not the space for single issues and volumes, and I prefer keeping to single issues, especially when scans of volumes are less common and not possible for everything.

>>88234612
Thanks