What, are you dense? Are you retarded or something? Who the hell

>>88167095
You're the goddamned Roger Smith.

>>88167095
Didn't this series get cancelled before the story was finished?

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>>88167095
That's the Question, Bruce

>>88168045
It wrapped up pretty nicely

why does he look like he came straight out of an anime

>>88167095
is this a "Kill Six Billion Demons" reference?

>>88168090
THAT'S who Hush makes me think of shit how did I not realize it until now

>>88168111
Because he did.

Phoenix Wright?

>>88168099
>It wrapped up
Yes.
>pretty nicely
Noooooooo.

>>88168045
There never was any story, it was originally written in kind of an anthology format but when CN ordered a second season, they demanded that the mystery be revealed.

Which is why it's such a nonsensical mindfuck at the very end.

[Spoiler]test[/spoiler]

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>>88167095
HOW DID HE MISS?!?!

>>88169093
It doesn't work if your capitalize it, fellow phone poster. Try lower-case spoiler. Like this.

>>88168137
Schwarzwald's a better Batman villain than Hush.

>>88169163
Thank you.

test

>>88168610
The manga is more clear about the ending. Rodger goes to his first negotiation again but its implied that he has memories of the last time it happened.

>>88169133
>Roger as a veggie doesn't really want to kill a real human
>Roger is against killing anyway
>Big O doesn't want to kill the only other intelligent big

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Big O thread?

Just finished it a few weeks ago. Not in love with the metafictional, oh hey we're in a cartoon ending but still love what they were building during the show.

I thought that they were going to go with something like: cyber-industrial society collapses from world war and someone hits a "reset" button, except they all got stuck on reset. Even the people that are "preserved" with memories from the previous society (Gordon Rosewater) only remember the reboot and not the original, so even though they carry on information there's the question of how much gets lost via playing telephone, and they are still the 'tomatoes' of the previous reboot. It turns out that civilization keeps collapsing and resetting because it doesn't have an appropriate reference on which to progress. In fact, they're necessarily regressive, since the hunt for memories becomes so important.

Someone like Alex Rosewater always discovers the memories, like the "Bigs," and there's no real way to stop them from repeating the same mistake, which spurs yet another reset. Somewhere in the lower city there's a factory that grows the next batch, and just as there's always an Alex Rosewater there's always a Gordon Rosewater that discovers this memory, goes down there, and hits the button. In this case it's Roger Smith(?). What makes this process scary is that it was never planned to work this way: the original 'tomatoes' were supposed to be 'perfect' and wouldn't worry about the past (memories) because they were free from it, and thus free to build the future. What caused the war was all the stupid, corrosive history that builds up and then explodes. But the lack of memory doesn't help, hasn't helped yet, and reboot keeps happening. I'd like the ending to be that Smith/Angel/whoever chooses not to reboot.

>>88167095
Tried to watch this show two times. Dropped it twice.

What does everyone make so excited about this show? Its really boring, never managed to go pass episode 6 (the one with the music robot)

>>88169793
>Didn't even get a forth through the series
>How can anyone be excited
As stupid as saying it gets better "X" ways in, if you haven't watch that much of it don't be confused when you don't know what people like about it.

fuck off to /a/ pls

>>88170512
>bumping a thread just to say this

>>88169793
Because the animation is good.

>>88167095

Uh....Samurai Jack?

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>>88167095
I think you're a tomato.

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>>88167095
You're a louse, Roger Smith

>>88169244

Where can I buy the manga?

>>88170621

not only that but the story was incredibly interesting and the fact the Score was astoundingly amazing! It added so much to the story.

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>>88167095
I'm the goddamn Negotiator.

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BIG /co/ IT'S SHOWTIME!

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>>88169785
>It turns out that civilization keeps collapsing and resetting because it doesn't have an appropriate reference on which to progress


No there have only been 3 resets. And they were all Gordon Rosewater's. The first was the original, "our", world where Gordon was the research scientist who accidentally activated the alien artifact, Big Venus.

He then rebuilt the world with his memories but added shit like androids, megadeuses, leviathans, all the advanced tech that doesnt make sense. This world fell apart in the war between the US and the Union, Roger died fighting in Big O (all the events in the Metropolis book) and Gordon reset the world again in a panic with just New York(Paradigm City) remaining, because he was already getting senile and his memories were flawed.

He tried to clone himself(Alex Rosewater) to recover the memories of the old world and restore it but the cloning process(tomatoes) were failures. Gordon basically gave up and let things be but Alex still had a partial memory imprint and wanted to become 'God'. He knew this had something to do with the Bigs and the City Underground (where Big Venus was stored). But since he only had partial memories he came to conclude that just having the strongest Big made him God and never found out about Big Venus. Hijinks ensued.

>>88175250
>Gordon was the research scientist who accidentally activated the alien artifact, Big Venus
wat

Wasn't the Big O directed by the same guy who did Giant Robo?

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>>88175341
You dont remember the episode, Roger the Wanderer? Roger was the military officer in charge of the research team investigating a spoopy alien artifact. Discovering what it could do gave Roger that mental breakdown. Guess what that artifact was? Guess who was a scientist on that team? Put two and two together.

>>88169214
or just control s

>>88170901
>>88170837
Season 1's animation was better than Season 2's. There's just something about cel animation that digital animation can't replicate.

>>88175250
nice head canon

>>88176812
Phoneposters don't have ctrl buttons.

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>>88167095

>>88175920
Literally nothing of the sort happens.

>>88175250
This is fine too, preferable to the canon ending, though I dunno about introducing alien technology, since it just opens up the question of why aliens are significant when they weren't before.

Gordon inventing the Bigs would explain the "Cast In The Name of God: Ye (Not) Guilty" bits, Alex and Roger are both literally cast (created/given parts) in the name of God (Rosewater), whereas Gabriel isn't.

BTW >>88171229

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52BcC9Qzl-Q

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>>88177209
Holy SHIT, genius

You think Toonami might ever touch the series again? I wonder sometimes if they'd ever try and pick up where it ended and give it more of a proper conclusion. Keep in mind, my memory's kind of hazy, but didn't they originally plan on a third season?

>>88167095
An alien?

>>88177695
I'll take a EoE style movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPtyfwjz0a0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt524wGJFqs

>>88178020
This show always had the best soundtrack. Wonder what the composer works on nowadays.

Is there anywhere where I can get this series? I just remember an episode about tomatoes and Toonami stopped airing it.

>>88178372
Used to be on youtube but they took the account down.

>>88175351
No. That guy also made G Gundam and the Tetsujin 28 remake.

Oh, and the new Mazinger.

>>88170901
Best of all girls. Not nearly enough fanart, and what exists too often has her emoting too much.

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>>88177357
>though I dunno about introducing alien technology, since it just opens up the question of why aliens are significant when they weren't before.

Alien in the sense that Big Venus is one big Dues Ex Machina. The show never even attempted to explain Big Venus, just that it existed, was responsible for everything and was the big macguffin of the series. And even that was done only through hints.

Just like the origins of R.D., the Underground, Leviathan and Metropolis were never really explained, you only have to infer they all came from the second reality since the first reality contained no advanced technology and the third(current) has no place for them. Most of the plot events of the show are around the remnants of the second reality still existing in the third without the original context, such as the Union still fighting the old war when their nation doesnt even exist anymore.

>>88167095
Shouldn't you be in court yelling OBJECTION

>>88178372
http://kissanime.to/Anime/The-Big-O-Dub

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>The world destroyed by a cataclysm
>The power of God, wielded by man
>Giant robots run amok
>Everything is a lie

>>88177357
>>88178020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clNe1IoVN0M

>>88170512
Bump the thread you say? Well, if you insist.

>>88182216

SURE!

>>88167095
>tfw no season 3

>>88177209
What Episode of Batman is this?

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What is it about Batman that inspired multiple separate cartoons to give him a giant mecha?
Is it just his "I have contingency plans within plans for every scenario including impossible ones" shtick that makes it believable he had a giant mecha in storage already just in case he needs one?
Because I'm not complaining.

>>88186250
with alien invasions happening every year and giant monsters popping all around having a giant robot makes as much sense at having a gun for personal protection

>>88181197
>read it in his voice
Dayum, I need this crossover now.

>>88186250
When you watch this.
Listening to this >>88181801
Its perfect

>>88186250
If Spider-Man can have a giant robot, by all means Batman should have several.

>>88170901
Why is everyone in love with this permanently ill-tempered android?

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>>88167095
>Who the hell do you think I am?

Kamina?

>>88187121
Having Steve Blum voice Leeroy instead of Kamina was a poor choice.

>>88178020
That sleazy sax goes down smooth.

>>88187128
Nah.

I love Steve and all but It'd just be Spike again.

>That one episode where Roger Smith fights a giant mutated version of the Rockefeller Christmas Tree.

>>88187128
It was an excellent choice because it showed how damn good his range is. Don't see why people want talented voice actors to be typecast all the time.

Besides, Hebert's youthful voice was a great fit for Kamina.

>>88186885
Because anime fans love Tsunderes?

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>he lets anime faggots post where they don't belong
>for free

>Tim and Eric got the Big O Season 3 money.

>>88187369
;_;

>>88187369
Just how bad was Tim and Eric? I always ignored it but people say [as] shilled it too hard and it fucked with other shows.

>>88187295
I liked how much of a subversion she was from most anime waifus. She felt like a real character and played off of Roger's boisterous attitude pretty well without needing to be sexualized or turned into an overt love interest.

>>88187530
>without needing to be sexualized or turned into an overt love interest
So much this. She's a primary female supporting character who isn't the protagonist's girlfriend or kid sister.

The funniest part of the Americans asking the Japanese to explain the mystery in the second season is how hard a time the Japanese have wrapping their hair around the concept of explanation.

I mean, if the revelation makes you go, "What?" more than the mystery did....

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>>88170621
>because the animation is good

Anyone else think big o would've been a better show without the giant robots?

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>>88188127

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>40 years ago

>>88187494
Worse than Tom Goes to the Mayor, and that was pretty awful. It also set the precedent for terrible live action bullshit on Adult Swim, at the expense of original animated content.

If I ever get access to a time machine, Tim and Eric are right at the top of my list of people to smother in their cribs when they're infants.

>>88188054
>series about robot fights
>complains about character animation
Priorities, son.

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>>88188715
the robot fights in season 2 weren't even good tho

>>88188753
That's because digital animation is shit.
Cels are way better.

>>88188127
Yes.
Honestly, they came out of nowhere a lot of the time and most of the fights in the first season felt like they were only there due to some kind of "once an episode" mandate. What I really would have liked, is if the show was about Roger doing actual negotiation work around the city with the Big being a last resort when things got absolutely dire. As much as they played them up, the giant robots stopped being all that special when someone like Beck would pull one out of his ass for a simple prison escape.

>>88188770
That, and the pacing got really bad.
One thing I liked about season one was the fights were well choreographed. The Bigs moved slow, but the fights themselves were brief and usually ended pretty fast once someone got the advantage. By season two though, everything was bogged down with cutaways filled with clunky exposition that drew everything out and killed the flow of action.

>>88188919
Didn't season two also feature the fight in which Roger bails halfway through to go do whatever and when he gets back, they other robot is still just banging on Big O's shields?

>>88189053
Yes. Yes it did. Though I think it got bored after a while and started going back to wrecking the city.
So good job there, Roger. Way to prioritize.

>>88189788
why does the animation look better than anything made in the past 10 years

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>>88189832

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>>88190070

>>88169133
The real question is how Rosewater screwed up a freaking Rocket Punch that badly.

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>>88190631
This was probably the best fight scene in the entire series.

>>88188127
Then we wouldn't have gotten Big O's footstep sounds.

This show isn't technically named after the robot. The real reason the show is called Big O: They took the phrase uttered by villains when the robot punches the and removed the "h shit"

I always liked that the Bigs were themed after the legendary beasts Behemoth, Leviathan and Ziz. It also puts the ending in context when you imagine the fight between Big O and Big Fau as the Hebrew apocrypha in which Behemoth and Leviathan duke it out at the end of days and God (Big Venus) kills them both.

>>88193919
Cool! I always wondered why there wasn't a sky equivalent to Behemoth and Leviathan, but I just haven't ever heard of it. Thanks.

>>88187128
>tfw i just cant watch english dubs
I just like japanese voice acting and it doesnt help that i didnt grew up with dubs in anime

>>88186209
Heart of Silicon

Dorothy a cute!

A CUTE

>>88194001
Did you never play Pokemon RSE?

Rayquaza is Ziz, and Kyogre and Groudon are Leviathan and Behemoth

>>88194001
Ziz doesn't get the same play that Behemoth and Leviathan do because it was never associated with the end of the world.

>>88194210
Yeah, but I thought Rayquaza was based on an Asian dragon or something.

>>88194301
Looked like one, sure.

But he was Ziz through and through. In terms of powers/status/etc.

>>88176910
It's more like they don't put in the effort because it doesn't earn them more money.

It's like flipping burgers, spending twice as long to perfectly flip one burger earns you the same as a merely decent flip of another.

>>88194490
No, because then s1 would look like shit too.
>>88176910
It's not just that; it's also because [as] funded S2, which probably had a lot to do with it

>>88194490
>>88194533
Eh... there is some of that but the more exact reason is because they can. There are techniques that you can use to cut corners in digital animation that simply aren't possible in traditional animation. For all that we mock QUALITY animation, off-model characters and wonky perspective still had to be animated. Digital means never having to worry about it a cel lines up, assets can slide across the screen completely unmoored from it. You wind up with animation that looks flat and lifeless, lacking depth. It's actually the exact opposite problem that older animation had where the backgrounds were completely static and the animated assets seemed to pop out due to poorly matched palettes.

>>88193919
I wonder if Final Fantasy's Zu monsters are based on Ziz.

>>88194820
Zu is a different giant mythical bird, actually. More Persian.

>>88194854
Oh, ok. I mostly know Norse mythology.

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Batman is everywhere

>>88193222
By far my favorite episode. The build up and pacing was great, and the fight at the end was worth the buildup.

>>88195118
bishounen is best

>>88195118
I have to say for idol anime characters Producer was pretty good.

>>88195352
No idea where Prodecer or Bishounen Batman are from. Were their shows any good?

>>88195118
When in the FUCK are they going to make DTB season 3 RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>88195118
Edgy Batman.

>>88196286
Its such a shame Zetman has gone to shit.

>>88186320
>>read it in his voice
Goddamnit, so did I.

>>88196100
After they make Season 2.

>>88196901
Gemini of the Meteor exists

>>88195947
Producer is from Idolmaster and if you like idol anime then you will probably like it

>>88167095
I watched Big O in japanese and i liked it. Did i do sin?

>>88197804
Maybe. I feel like this show was meant for English VAs.

>>88198255
There is definitely a very American sensibility to it. Maybe it's that they so overtly modeled Paradigm City on New York, or that the film noir influence is so prevalent.

>>88171090
Probably can't, but you can read it online.

>>88177209
They are not metaphors. They are meant to be taken literally. See, I found this tomato farmer who takes tomatoes very literally...

>>88186885
She reminds me of my gf

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>>88198639
Anon, pls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHChe6KY0DQ

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>>88170837

>>88187494
Just know that Mike Lazzo is more about being avant-garde than he is about animation. (MacFarlane shows just pay the bills.)

>>88199813
A+

>>88177209
>>88198468
Are tomatoes a meme fruit now.

>>88186885

The moment I saw Dorothy hanging on in the first episode with a face that told you that she did not give two fucks about her predicament I knew she was someone special. She never feels like cheap robowaifu bait throughout the whole series. In most series with them, they start off all emotionless and shit but slowly become "a real girl" in some cliched way. Dorothy was just a loveable toneless bitch the whole show

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>>88187343
>he's a namefag on an anonymous cambodian orgigami webstream

>>88200095
>now

>>88200095
I maintain that tomatoes are botanically a fruit, but culinarily they are a vegetable.

>>88198293
They did it on purpose. The show was meant to appeal to American audiences. No one was surprised when it took off here and flopped in Japan.