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>>88112978
Image was only interesting for the cheesecake.

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I dunno, man. I hope you can feel better soon.

>>88112978
I'm just going to blame brian K vaugh and walking dead and call it a day.

>>88113134
>Saga is actually really good.
I disagree.

>>88113160

I really liked it to start with but now it's sort of devolved into DUDE A DRAWING OF A PENIS LMAO and blatant pandering.

Staples is still worth the price though.

What's with this "DUDE X LMAO" stupidity? Is this yet another /tv/ meme?

>>88113134
Its a shitty soap with some rather immature moments.

>>88113134

I disagree but that's not even what's being criticised, it's the endless fucking sci fi books that image put out that get cancelled after 6 issues.

>>88112993
Did you have to bring Babewatch into this?

>>88113253

Which get cancelled?, as far as I was aware they'd have to do really shit for Image to bin a series.

What floppies is /image/ reading?

Seven to Eternity (current favorite)
Kill or Be Killed
Monstress
Hadrian's Wall (least favorite)
ASM: RYV
Uncanny X-Men
Hal Jordan & The GLC

Anything else I should be getting?

>>88113344
>it's not even eXXXXXtreme
What are you doing, Liefeld?

>>88113520
Have you tried the other Remender (Black Science, Deadly Class, Low, Tokyo Ghost) stuff?

>>88112978
Because Marvel and DC doesn't cancel books after 10 issues only to relaunch them from issue 1...?

>>88112978
I like Image's crime books, and they are not over-saturated with them. Their sci fi and fantasy are so so.

>>88113548
Yes, but in trades. I wasn't reading monthly for several years. Spidey's "death" and the IMMEDIATE backpedalling really burned me out.
I think Deadly Class had just started about the time I was leaving.

>>88113576
Oh shit up indiefag, this thread isn't about DC or Marvel.

>>88112978
probably went downhill when people starting pirating comics and complaining on message boards rather than just buying them

>>88112978
They became too pupular for their own good I guess some f their shit is great but a lot of it reads like the writer wants a film pitch

>>88113872
Of course they do. No money in the floppies.

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>>88113548

>Rick Remender

The only book of his I ever liked was Deadly Class but it was just far too edgy for it's own good.

>>88113712
Hah you know he's right, man....
Back in the day (maybe before most of you were born, I dunno) I could never have imagined that this terrible company of Big-Two rip-off characters would evolve into a genre publisher of some sophistication, maturity and, well, class, to sound like an elitist cunt. To say they don't put out better books now than they did back then is just fucking asinine. The only difference between old Image and Marvel at the time was number of pouches/level of eXXXTREmity. Oh and Image stuff was way more badly written.

>>88113912

>No money in the floppies.

Saga is raking in millions with nary a film or TV show in sight.

>>88113933
>Yeah but
Yeah, but didja read his UXF?

>>88113942
he isn't

Big Two relaunching after ten issues isn't the fucking same as Image titles actually being dropped at that point in the slightest.

>>88113975

Go to bed Rick

>>88113976
Overrated shit.

Could someone explain what happened to Sex Criminals? Is it true that it can't keep a schedule because Chip is a smackhead?

>>88114043
How the fuck did you know?

>>88113942
Maybe about the big two, but it has nothing to do with Image's quality.

>>88113131
>all comics are childrens books

And this is how I know you are fifteen years old

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>>88113520
reading

Jupiters Legacy 2
Kill or Be Killed
Lazarus
Manifest Destiny
Moonshine
Saga
Sex

Kill or be Killed and Manifest Destiny are by far the best, everybody should be reading those.

Was loving The Saviors by James Robinson but its one of those Image books that just sits unfinished after 5 issues, issue 6 even got solicited I'm pretty sure.

>>88114154

All comics are not children's books, it's worse, all comics are manchildren's books. Superhero comic books are the intellectual equivalent of wrestling; just vapid surface level content designed to waste time an imparting nothing of value onto the reader. The reason creator owned books are vapid nonsense is because to get the cache in the industry to write one an author must first write copious amounts of garbage for Marvel and DC. The only writers willing to debase themselves in such a manner are shameless hacks incapable of writing prose, and these writers have literally nothing to say when writing something that isn't just perpetually maintaining it's own existence. The only true literary talent of the comic book world, Alan Moore, is routinely criticised here for actually having the gall to recognise these systemic flaws in the industry, and these days his genuine artistic works are dismissed as "grimdark" by those who have probably not read a single book since they left university. His latest prose work Jerusalem is superior to any comic book written since From Hell and by literary standards it's barely worth a mention.

tl;dr if you read mainstream comic books you have the intellect of a child

>>88112978
Image is now failed/future film scripts.

>>88114360

What have I so misunderstood about wrestling?

>>88114326
Why the fuck do you even both with comics if you have such a negative view of them as a whole?

Try not being a smarmy cunt all your life

>>88114326
Okay

>>88114400
Wrestling is continuity heavy, there's a great deal of story being told in a good twenty minute match.

You're just too ignorant to understand it.

>>88114326
>diary of a fifteen year old

I bet you use terms like nerd unironically

>>88114432

Story is worthless if it doesn't mean anything, and wrestling is just meaningless nonsense designed to entertain a crowd for a few hours. That in and of itself is not a completely worthless goal but to suggest the storylines of wrestling are of any actual worth is beyond laughable.

>>88112978
Are you able to not talk like a retarded person

>>88114326
This but unironically.

>>88112978
This is why editorial is needed.

Writers can bitch about being slaves to corporate all they want, but we all know that most writers are too immature to handle their books by themselves.

>>88114480
the story of a comic is literally no different by your standard, except more people remember good wrestling storylines so ;)

>>88114466

Nice deflection friend, try reading some literary fiction and expanding your mind beyond braindead shit aimed at children.

>>88114532

Did you not just see my post shitting on comic book writing? Your series of posts suggests you possess a mediocre IQ and never challenge yourself, i.e. the typical wrestling fan.

>>88114540
What deflection? You are generalizing an entire medium. Thatd be like saying all novels are teen romances. You must be American and a teenager to generalize this much. You cant say thing like Eternaut, Metabarons, Bouncer, Blueberry, or ONeil's Question are "for children." None of which I bet youve read.

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>>88114682
BTFO

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>>88112978
Let's not act like the alternative is better

>>88112993
You are talking about top cow an imprint of image. But that's ok so is OP faggot

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Image is a product of the 90s and it has kept this 90s mentality of "people just want to read cool shit".

Now, I know a lot of you will say that this is accurate, but it's not.
The reason why the Big 2 are the market leaders is because comic book readers like consequences. They want things to matter. They want impact.

And you can't have that wit ha marketing strategy which thinks "lol what if Superman killed Hitler with a giant motorcycle gun".

>>88115173
>The reason why the Big 2 are the market leaders is because comic book readers like consequences. They want things to matter. They want impact.
You mean the same DC and Marvel that constantly reboots, retcons, and rehashes their universes? There are so many "things have changed forever!" events that end up being retconned or made pointless the next year it's ridiculous.

>>88115229
Sure, but at least they do matter for at least a year or two (or 5 for parts of DC).
Which is still more appealing that if they didn't matter at all.

>>88114432
>Wrestling is continuity heavy
You're a retard if you truly believe this.

>>88115293
The hell are you talking about? Since pretty much all of Image's series are in their own self-contained universe the plot can have far more reaching consequences and even definitive ends.

>>88115173
You have bever read an actual novel have you?

>>88115363
what you're talking about definitely happens, sure, but not often enough.
Most of the Image comics I've read over the last decade seem to focus only on one character, or just one particular situation, and just generally do not get into how the world and their universe actually functions.
It's like the writers are constantly in fear that they'll be canceled and they're just one or two issues away from completing their story.

>>88114326
Moore is right about the comic industry, but he's a hack too. His hackery is just different than the guy who is writing Harley Quinn comics.

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>>88114326

>>88115478
The hell are you on about? Prophet is a comic that's almost 80% world building and is pretty great. Besides that, world building certainly isn't needed to tell a good story. I'd take a small, self-contained, and more personal story over the bloated and decaying shared universe that is Marvel or DC.

>>88114097

I imagine that's a joke, it's clear reading it that Fraction has no real plan and just pass it out with meta jokes.

It'll probably fall to the curse of the creators not having time or losing steam and giving up, that's the problem when they don't have deadlines.

Plus Saga has made it popular to take months off between arcs.

Stray Bullets is good and Chew is godly.

>>88115682

Do you not think Chew sort of ran out of steam towards the end?

hickman's books are still good

RIP Manhattan Projects and Dying and the Dead

>>88115788
Dude what? All that tragic tone was so timely.

>>88115802
Shitman pls

Black Science, Manifest Destiny and TWD are still pretty great.

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>>88112978
>Blaming the publisher because you don't want to put any effort into searching for good things that might not have ever been published without them

>>88115856
More people should be reading Manifest Destiny. It never disappoints and ships in a fairly consistent manner.

I'm glad Brandon Graham happened to image. his work has a good aesthetic to it

>>88114326
Why are you on a fucking comics board dumbass?

>>88114949
>DC and Marvel are the only alternatives to Image
This is your average Imagefag.

>>88116019
It's the two companies most talked about on /co/ anyway. I read my fair share of Dark Horse, Avatar, and Image.

>>88115918
GAY

>>88114540
>Reads Jerusalem.
>Asks other to read literary fiction

>>88115998
/lit/ likes to come here and shitpost sometimes

/lit/posting, if you will

>>88116081
FURRY

>>88116103
ANTHOLOGY

>>88116099
I doubt anyone from /lit/ is a Moorefag. It's just your average Moorefag, thinking Moore is the best writer comics have ever seen.

>>88116185
>implying he isn't
But I like you too, Morrison.

The whole "this is failed/future tv or film pitch" thing is really fucking dumb. Practically anything can be adapted into film or tv, it's a silly insult. Anything can be read as TV or film pitch if you want it too, The Incal can be read as a fucking film pitch.

Seven to Eternity can be (very expensive) film pitch. Kill or Be Killed can be a TV pitch. What do some of you want? A comic book so comic booky it can't be adapted?

I'm sure the OP made a thread like this before because it's vague as fuck like this post:>>88115478 You're not naming any series,names,creators, fucking anything.

>>88116257
To be fair, a lot of Millar's work on Image are literal movie pitches since they get the rights sold as soon as they're published.

>>88116257
>Practically anything can be adapted into film or tv
But not successfully.

>>88116257
>The Invalid as a film pitch
I mean

Metabarons was a film pitch that got turned into a comic

>>88116257
>A comic book so comic booky it can't be adapted
even that wouldn't stop them

>>88116382
Metabarons, in fact, uses many elements from the aborted Dune adaptation.

>>88116423
yes anon that is exactly what I was referring to, good job

>>88116257
You can make your comic appear as a pitch or you can put thought and care into making it and by taking advantage of the medium you can make something truly great. If you script your comic like you'd script a tv/movie pitch, that's where the problem comes from. You need to understand that the idea is never that important, no matter what medium we're talking about, what matters most is the execution and for a lot of titles, the execution is lacking, and the storytelling is poor and trying too hard to be something it shouldn't.

>>88115645
Fraction seems to have some major personal problems that get in the way. He's talked about being an former alcoholic and we may never know what happened with his Inhumans stuff

>>88115802
>RIP Manhattan Projects
If Pitarra got tired of working on it he should've just gotten Ryan Browne to finish the series

>>88116713
Didn't he leave because of editorial difference?

Was the gay furry porn real?

>>88116767
Fraction, yeah I think so.

>>88116713
>Fraction seems to have some major personal problems
Give him a sex change already!

>>88116795
Yes.

>>88116767
I don't think there was ever any kind of official statement about why Fracton left, I doubt it was editorial since he was buddy buddy with all the right people at Marvel

>>88114540
>i just read the great gatsby AND to kill a mockingbird for sophomore english

>>88116795
No, there was a gay furry comic drawn by a porn artist, but it didn't have any porn in the story. It was just a bunch of characters walking around a pride parade

Island is a mixed bag, like any anthology. Not everything can be Habitat or Tarot

>>88116338
According to their website, doing pretty well too. They said Animosity 1 and 2 both sold out.

That said, there are hundreds of other smaller publishers. I think I have the only trade published by Comix Tribe, Fantagraphics does all Woodring's stuff, and then there's Archie, Archaia, all the french publishers, and dozens more if you get semi-comics like Creepy Suzie and Ruby Gloom.

>>88116502
>You need to understand that the idea is never that important, no matter what medium we're talking about, what matters most is the execution and for a lot of titles, the execution is lacking, and the storytelling is poor and trying too hard to be something it shouldn't.

No, anon I get what you're saying and I agree that execution is most important but >and for a lot of titles

What books? And not Millar's stuff because he's blatant, upfront and practically brags about it. You made a nice post but you're not being specific about any titles. You scared to names names anon?

>>88113531
Rob is smart, it's a parody of modern relaunches.

I hope.

>>88112978
Hey, Hickman's stuff along with Wicked and Divine is quite good. It's like Marvel and DC. You have to search through the shit to find gold, but when you do find gold, it's brilliant.

>>88117180
>Wicked and Divine
>good

>>88116319

He's best mates with Matthew Vaughn and Jonathan Ross's wife, they literally option shit before it even prints.

>McFarlene creates a company to support creator owned media
>Neil Gaiman creates some characters for him
>Fuck you, Neil those characters are mine now. You where work for hire

todd McFarlene is a douche

>>88114097
Next issues coming out in February, don't know why it took ten months though unless they want the entire arc to come out without delay.

>>88117252
Hey, I enjoy it. Might not be everyone's cup of tea, but I do like it.

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Who else is pumped Sun Bakery is coming to image?

>>88117252
>DUDE REMEMBER PRINCE, RIHANNA, DAVID BOWIE AND DAFT PUNK

BRING BACK MURDERANON!!!!!

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Remember when this was one of the most popular comic books in America? With a movie and tv show and action figures and everything?

Does anyone still read Spawn?

>>88114326
What's with all the deleted responses pointing out what obvious bait this post is?

Is this actually a mod or a janitor trolling?

>>88119225

Started off great but then kind of segued into juggalo territory and never came back.

>>88112978
Who are you quoting?

>>88119225
they got away from dark themed action and went full blown horror and the book has never regained the what made it special

>>88119388
>what made it special
Which was...?

>>88119329

It's just copypasta.

>>88119399
awesome monsters and brutal action scenes

>>88119225
The average Spawn story:
- Spawn is sitting on his throne, which is made of rotten, worm-infested remains
- Cogliostro or Angela or Violator or the mailman comes and tells him to solve his problems, or threatens him with some prophecy (which of course will never be fulfilled)
- Spawn, still seated on his rotten throne, remembers his wife and daughter and cries a bit
- From his skyscraper, Jason Wynn puts a bad guy face and orders some evil action to be done
- Spawn is still in his worm-infested throne talking to his beggar friends, who tell some joke
- Malebolgia says that Al Simmons will be his someday and laughs hysterically
- Spawn is still crying in his throne when a supernatural menace appears and Spawn spectacularly fights it... for three pages
- And now that he has left the throne, he will take a look at his ex-family from the window, like a fucking stalker. He cries a bit more.
- Cogliostro insists that something big is coming, that everything’s going to change, that the prophecy will be fulfilled. One of these days.
- In the end, Spawn is sitting on his stinky throne again.
Repeat for about 100 issues.

>>88113038
BKV not as much but yeah, Image became really insufferable once Kirkman started wielding more power there and becoming a bigger deal. Considering he was one of the guys who pioneered half-assing it for the Big Two solely to build his name, fuck him.

>>88113027
That's fucking cute

>>88112978
>DUDE
>>88113216
pretty much. just another way for autists to express their ideas without much effort.

>sci-fi or crime book with a bunch of four-letter words to let you know it's for serious adults

Literally their entire catalog.

The possibilities for creator-owned are endless so why does all Image stuff seem the same?

>>88112978
I Hate Fairyland is still pretty great.

>>88120173
Because you choose to only read creators that you already know from Marvel and DC.

>>88114097
Sex Criminals got optioned, book went on the back burner as the real money was in the TV show for Fraction

>>88113520
The Black Monday Murders
Kill Or Be Killed
The Fix

The Few and God Country are coming out in January and I'm interested in picking up one or both

>>88118939
>Prince
I honestly don't know which character you're referring to

>>88120173

Why does every Image thread have a post like this?

Can you guys stop memeing?

>Literally their entire catalog.

to post something like this means you don't even read their comics. you're memer.